this is worth a read if you need to vomit

[badboyheel]

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed021309a.cfm
i thought this was very informing for those who not read about this

[mrs reb77]

Thank you.

I don't think they'd mind much us posting the meat of it here:

An Open Letter to the Congress and the President of the United States
by Edwin J. Feulner, Ph.D.

For the last 35 years, educators and analysts at The Heritage Foundation have been intimately involved in the nation's great public policy debates. In all that time, we have never encountered legislation with such far-reaching and revolutionary policy implications as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act currently before Congress. And never have we seen a bill more cloaked in secrecy or more withdrawn from open public exposure and honest debate.

In addition to being the single most expensive bill ever proposed, this measure calls for a massive expansion of the federal government's reach into the day-to-day life of virtually every citizen, business and civic organization in the nation. That, in itself, should be the subject of an extensive public conversation and thoughtful debate. Instead, we have seen Congressional leaders schedule snap votes on a 1,434-page bill that no one—repeat, no one—has had a chance to read in its entirety, much less digest and deliberate.

This bill has been advertised as an economic stimulus bill—despite the fact that the Congressional Budget Office estimates it will actually weaken our nation's long-term economic growth. While the stimulative utility of the bill is, at best, questionable, it would unquestionably rewrite the social contract between the American people and their government. For example:

* The bill reverses the bipartisan and highly successful welfare reforms of 1996 and drastically expands the welfare state. For instance, it will start rewarding states for adding people to their welfare rolls, rather than for helping them find gainful employment. And contrary to long-established practice, it will entitle able-bodied adults without children to receive cash assistance.
* It does extreme violence to the concept of federalism—bailing out states that have spent irresponsibly at the expense of taxpayers in states that have been fiscally prudent.
* It greatly shifts the responsibility and power over health care delivery and decision making from individuals to government. Among other things, it would create a new federal health board to decide which medical services are "effective" in America, paving the way for government effectively to overrule the clinical decisions of private physicians.
* It deliberately censors religious speech and worship on school campuses by prohibiting use of any "stimulus" funds for facilities that are used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school of divinity.

The list goes on. These and similar provisions will mean fundamental changes in our society. In many instances, the bill would establish policies that directly challenge widely held American values.

We are appalled that Congress is even contemplating such profound changes with so little openness and due diligence. In the past, major policy changes in our welfare system, or health care, or trade policies, etc., were always, quite properly, preceded by extensive public conversation and full debate. That is how a democracy should make important decisions.

The failure of Congress and the Administration to allow that debate is damaging to our democracy. Both chambers of Congress suspended their budget rules to push it along. And both the President and the leaders of the House and Senate have violated their solemn promises that the bill would be available for several days of public review prior to voting, so that the American people might have a chance to learn what is in the bill and to make their views known to their elected officials.

This reckless approach to governance can only undermine public faith in our elected officials and our government as a whole. We call on Congress and the Administration to live up to their promises and stated ideals, and give the democratic process a chance to work.
Ed Feulner is president of The Heritage Foundation.

[scrogdog]

When they saw the return address, I'm sure the letter found its way in to the circular file rather quickly.

Every Obama supporter should read it.

[jmac00]

as my dad said a month ago, "this bill will be more about "social engineering" than stimulus and the citizens of this country are just going to sit by and let it happen without a shot being fired. We are headed for a depression, the likes of which the world has never seen"

in short, we are screwed:eek::(

[scrogdog]

as my dad said a month ago, "this bill will be more about "social engineering" than stimulus and the citizens of this country are just going to sit by and let it happen without a shot being fired. We are headed for a depression, the likes of which the world has never seen"

in short, we are screwed:eek::(

Indeed. Social engineering at its best.

They couldn't scare us enough with global warming babble, but now that folks are feeling real pain, it's the perfect time to swoop in.

The rush to pass bills before debate and Obama's bully pulpit and utter failure to address the true points his critics made can only mean... well crap... let's just say that I'll just bet ol' Georgie Orwell is spinning in his grave at this very moment.

It all gets back to what an old egghead named Betrum Russell once said; "man would rather die than think; in fact, he does so".

We conservatives and civil libertarians are just going to have to get used to the fact that we are getting outnumbered by people who just want to vote and then let people take care of them. The dismal state of the Republican party isn't helping.

[whec720]

We conservatives and civil libertarians are just going to have to get used to the fact that we are getting outnumbered by people who just want to vote and then let people take care of them. The dismal state of the Republican party isn't helping.

Hard to argue with that statement because it is very true. The real problem is the American people, half of which have morphed into whiny, needy, lazy, twerps. How pathetic.....hands always out for something "free".
If we go down, we only have ourselves to blame. Where is the pride and dignity gone that many Americans used to have? I suppose they are at one of Barack's phony baloney town hall meetings or waiting in line for tickets to Ophra. Either way, they can b!tch about how rough they have it and take solace in being victims.
Sad:cool:

[badboyheel]

i just had to read this again.....i needed to throw-up

[Texas-Tech]

The revolution is coming.:cool:

[able1]

I am all for the revolution

[Gib's Son]

Indeed. Social engineering at its best.


We conservatives and civil libertarians are just going to have to get used to the fact that we are getting outnumbered by people who just want to vote and then let people take care of them. The dismal state of the Republican party isn't helping.


I have felt much the same. My wife commented the other night that I look like crap, skin tone bad, dark circles under my eyes.

Yeah well, I'm not sleeping, I'm researching, reading books and and trying to figure out what I can do. Things are moving at break neck speed and there are allot bills and laws that are going largely unnoticed. In the mean time I stumbled upon this. Are we a minority? I hope not.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21018/