Nice boiler

[Collin]

http://hvacloads.com/talkpics/wall/boiler1.jpg

http://hvacloads.com/talkpics/wall/boiler2.jpg

[Edited by Boss on 12-29-2003 at 08:39 AM]

[BaldLoonie]

Nice chain, they thought someone might steal the boiler?

[ed wallace]

someone needs to tell them that boiler is over 50 yrs old and they should let it go

[BamaCracker]

Originally posted by BaldLoonie
Nice chain, they thought someone might steal the boiler?

It closes the door back after that monster lights off! :D

[wolfdog]

The basement Troll is chained to the boiler?

[Marc H]

I know, they can't replace it casue its chained to the house. Maybe they tie the repairman to it!

[Collin]

This setup is in the crawlspace, the top of the boiler is about a foot below floor level. Part of my estimate was trying to figure out if the old ceiling beams would support a come-along to help lift the beast out.
While taking this picture, my back rubbed up against the crawlspace wall which is covered in efflorescence. Now I am covered in white chalk.
Shall I get into the asbestos?;)

I was wondering about the chain myself, however, since this is a church house let's hope Bama has the right answer.;)

[gerryboy00]

I wonder why this boiler need replacement...??

just replace the rusty chain.....should be good for another 30 years :D

[Big John]

I BET IT TOOK A GUY 8HRS TO INSTALL THAT FLUE COLLAR TO THAT CHIMNEY I THINK THE CHAIN IS FOR HIS MOTHER-IN-LAW

[bigdog1393]

i would never leave the slip with that one even if the begged me #$@$#^%$^$@#%$#%$

[bldgcode1]

Is the chain Orange or is that rust?

I particularly enjoyed the "Sunflower" effect on the connection at the masonary. Wonder how many times the color has rusted out there?

Since it was already chained how did you let the owner know that it needed "locked out"?

[Collin]

The chain is rusty, not orange. I especially liked the sunflower collar myself, I have been around heating equipment and chimneys for 19 years and have never seen anything like that. Somebody spent a bit of time making it.

[Carnak]

There's dovetails but that must be the peacock tail.

Don't worry about the come-along, that baby won't be coming out in one piece. Estimate as soon as a hand truck breaks the vertical plane it will be balanced.

Take casing off, most likely a bunch of cast sections bolted together with lead hammered into the seams. Remove bolts and put the hammer drill with chisel to work on the seams and then pry the heavy ba$tards apart.

[bldgcode1]

I've always enjoyed the "other" method of taking the cast iron sections apart. A 14 pound sledge and a good face shield. I agree with the order but the much smaller peices left by the "sledge mehod" are easier to handle.

[Collin]

Still would want to use leverage to get the sections out, the lift out would be around 5 feet, too high to be comfortable.
Pretty sure I'm high on this one, the competition used to be a used car salesman. (True story)
With luck I can post some more horror pictures, those of his install.:D

[bldgcode1]

Having literally broken my back setting a boiler, I stronly recommend using any lifting advantage available. Sometimes the "short cut" winds up taking several years to recover from. I am however, very serious about using sledge to break the cast iron into smaller peices. If this boiler is as old as it looks the cast will be brittle. The first few, maybe up to 10 or so, blows will bounce pretty hard and then after that you will start hearing a difference in the sound. Then on one hit, it will shatter if your lucky, and if not you just get a big hole. From there you move out and the peices can be as small as you want.

Again a good clear face shield, I use long welders gloves, and a good heavy pair of jeans, with a heavy shirt. A hard hat that will stay on and something to protect you ears.

The other things this does is provide an oppurtunity to a lot of stress release. If you do get the job be careful, that beast has been changed down so long its hard to tell where it will go!

[makinmoney]

the boiler looks pretty old, Ill bet Jesus did the original start-up. The chain looks even older. BUT the in line filter looks pretty new..... I wonder if the filter element is as old as the mother in law????????

[Carnak]

Originally posted by wolfdog
The basement Troll is chained to the boiler?

Maybe Collin ran into Zed and "the Gimp" down there.

[DPSwitch]

I just don't get it... I have really never seen anything quite like that going into a chimney...... can someone explain to me what they did there????? And why??? :eek:

[DPSwitch]

a bad episode of Junkyard Wars........

[kb0vso]

Sure glad it's your job and not mine

[Collin]

We got the job.
They had three bids, we were the middle one:) I'll post our work after it's done.

[Collin]

Originally posted by Carnak

Originally posted by wolfdog
The basement Troll is chained to the boiler?

Maybe Collin ran into Zed and "the Gimp" down there.

Definately no "Gimp" down there! I would be Bruce Willis in that senario!

[Carnak]

Q: Are you alright?
A: I'm pretty #@$%&*^ far from alright!

[Collin]

Someone is about to get medieval.

[absrbrtek]

Ya lets bring out the gimp. Iny Miny Miny Moe. ROFLMAO
Zeds dead though!!!


Originally posted by Carnak

Originally posted by wolfdog
The basement Troll is chained to the boiler?

Maybe Collin ran into Zed and "the Gimp" down there.

[htg guy]

Originally posted by Wj Stevens
I just don't get it... I have really never seen anything quite like that going into a chimney...... can someone explain to me what they did there????? And why??? :eek:



Thats the newest energy saving device. Its an external secondary heat exchanger.

[bldgcode1]

Many of us thought it was for decorative purposes. You know kind of a "sunflower" in the crawl space.

I have been working in construction since I could walk and in HVAC since I was 14 (30 years) and have seen the "sunflower" pattern once before, but it was nothing as elaborate as this. It almost looks as though someone was trying to make a collar and a self cooling connector at the same time.

[billygoat22]

I've seen things like that flower before. It may be an attempt at making those fins like on coils to recover heat from the flue.

[Collin]

I am going to save that labour of love someone built, then sell it to the Canadian Arts Council for 1.2 million.:D

[rhinphnx]

whats up the with the flue collar. is that some old trick or something....

[bldgcode1]

That's the sunflower we were referring to. After much debate we still haven't come to an agreement on what it was actually for. So we think it was just an artisitic "touch".

[driftwood]

check end of chain for beautiful young virgin .


hell i,d settle for an old one'

[jlbco]

Can you get me one more season out of it, I want to get a new on the 12th of never

[Collin]

We changed it out about a month ago. She sledged apart nicely and was in the back of my truck by 11 am.


http://hvacloads.com/talkpics/wall/110752_Bolierdebris.jpg

Here is the new install, the boys had her up and running by 5:30 the same night.

http://hvacloads.com/talkpics/wall/110753_newboiler.jpg

[Edited by Boss on 12-29-2003 at 08:39 AM]

[markwolf]

makes you feel good looking at the before & after pics I bet!

[Collin]

I also felt good unloading all that cast iron out of my truck without getting hurt!:D

[HVAC Pro]

Originally posted by bldgcode1
I've always enjoyed the "other" method of taking the cast iron sections apart. A 14 pound sledge and a good face shield. I agree with the order but the much smaller peices left by the "sledge mehod" are easier to handle.

And don't forget the go-nad shield!! lol

[HVAC Pro]

Nice looking installation! :)

[zachrogers]

Seems to me by the surrounding soot marks around the boiler door, that the oil burner was experiencing delayed ignition and blowing the door open. Boy what people will do to save a buck or two!

[scope341]

The pics of that old boiler make me feel sorry for being the companys " boiler" guy, i know that i am the one to get that job, lucky me.

Nice work by the boys there too. ;)

[brianeric2001]

I never laughed so hard. i took a boiler out one time ouch never do that again have fun i agree with the other guy get it in several pieces that is what we did. it was still hard and i was sore for a week.

[markwolf]

those powered appliance carts are great for these pigs!!