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glennac
01-19-2009, 06:22 PM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.

coolwhip
01-19-2009, 06:53 PM
I just wish there was a way that we could wall them in really fast and watch them kill each other.:D

hvac r us 2
01-19-2009, 07:14 PM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.

Are you serious? Yeah, thats a pretty good description of the American people. :rolleyes:

The vast amount of people supporting Obama are not low life's.

hvac r us 2
01-19-2009, 07:15 PM
I just wish there was a way that we could wall them in really fast and watch them kill each other.:D


And "them" being who exactly?

jrbenny
01-19-2009, 07:25 PM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.
Do you always post after eating the 'shrooms? That's one tripping post.

:D

mikethe ductman
01-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.

come on glenn don't sugar coat it , tell us how you really feel.

zzonko
01-19-2009, 08:04 PM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.

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zzonko
01-19-2009, 08:35 PM
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glennac
01-19-2009, 09:03 PM
come on glenn don't sugar coat it , tell us how you really feel.

Glad you noticed that I toned it down a little.:) Can't be to carefull nowadays considering who will be in control for the next four years.:eek: Perhaps I might tell you how I really feel about it sometime.:)

Gib's Son
01-19-2009, 09:08 PM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.

This may be where we are headed after all. I say split it up in half, East and West, Republic and Socialism. Then and only then will the people finally get it that Socialism does not work. Then again?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html

mikethe ductman
01-19-2009, 09:57 PM
Glad you noticed that I toned it down a little.:) Can't be to carefull nowadays considering who will be in control for the next four years.:eek: Perhaps I might tell you how I really feel about it sometime.:)

Just think glen, you side had a real good shot of winning, just one thing held them back



Their record! :)

cmajerus
01-19-2009, 10:06 PM
The news is talking about how special tomorrow will be because we have the 1st black prez.
He's Half White.:D According to guys I knew in the AF, he ain't Black:cool:

One guy I know says he's Halfrican American.:D

whec720
01-19-2009, 10:41 PM
This may be where we are headed after all. I say split it up in half, East and West, Republic and Socialism. Then and only then will the people finally get it that Socialism does not work. Then again?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html

I read this very same story about a week ago. The one part I disagree with, is the mid-west being under Canadian influence. If I'm Russia or China, why would I give much of the Great Lakes and the bread basket to the Canadians?. Why not just take it? Sorry Canada, but do you think you have the military to match that of Russia or China? Personally, I do not think so.

RoBoTeq
01-19-2009, 10:56 PM
I did not vote for our new president. I actively worked with the Republican Party against our new president. Still, he is our president. I see nothing to gain from being hateful toward our president or the Americans who voted him into office.

I really and truly hope I am very wrong about President Obama and I pray that he will be a great president for our country.

mrs reb77
01-19-2009, 11:23 PM
I'm giving this inauguration the same amount of attention as I did for Presidents I voted for.

Tomorrow is another work day, much the same as today was. Fortunately for us, we have work and are busy. I'm not sure how all those other people can afford to have the day off much less the expense of the trip to Washington D.C., staying there etc.

Surely none of them are on public assistance? At least, I hope my tax dollar isn't going to more than the lavish assembly...:rolleyes:

I know, get a clue. ;)

Mr Bill
01-19-2009, 11:43 PM
Do you always post after eating the 'shrooms? That's one tripping post.

:D


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l286/mrbillpro/shrooms.jpg

RoBoTeq
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
I just wish the new regime would just shut up with the promises of grandeur and just go to work and do their job.

HVAC2B
01-20-2009, 12:16 AM
I did not vote for our new president. I actively worked with the Republican Party against our new president. Still, he is our president. I see nothing to gain from being hateful toward our president or the Americans who voted him into office.

I really and truly hope I am very wrong about President Obama and I pray that he will be a great president for our country.

lets pray,that he will be a true bi-partison,and govern from the center and not the left side:rolleyes:

Carnak
01-20-2009, 12:35 AM
geeze glenn why don't you just trade superman for James Earl Ray

sysint
01-20-2009, 05:20 AM
I am wondering if somebody is doing a media comparison between this event compared to previous events. I am thinking maybe somebody will uncover a little bit of media bias - just my thought.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:30 AM
Surely none of them are on public assistance? At least, I hope my tax dollar isn't going to more than the lavish assembly...:rolleyes:



Through out history inaugurations are mostly privately funded, this one is no different.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:32 AM
I just wish the new regime would just shut up with the promises of grandeur and just go to work and do their job.

That is sort of funny Robo, shut up and get to work...they aren't even in office yet. You guys are so eager for them to fail.

sline-dawg
01-20-2009, 07:43 AM
geeze glenn why don't you just trade superman for James Earl Ray


I'm getting those deja vu feelings... Creeppyy.....

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:45 AM
I am just amazed the picture that is painted about the people that support Obama, they must all be on welfare and drug addicts. :rolleyes:

Lets see, I am well educated, make 6 figures plus a year (actually household income was over 200K when wife was working, lost her job in this economy...but that is another thread) I own two houses, I'm an involved parent of three little angels, faithful husband, etc...

And I support Obama 110%, already had 8 years of stubborn shoot from the hip, do what I want attitude. :rolleyes:

I want somebody that can think with some intelligents. I don't know how anybody can even take shots at Obama, I respect him. Came from nothing, could have just hung out on the streets. Paid his way through school working odd jobs, took care of his sick mom, became rich as an attorney, could have ran for seat but stayed behind working for peanuts in the city he loved...

Whats not to respect?

But you guys respect the guy whose family buys his way into college, has daddy spoon feed him company's that he bankrupts, cheats his way out of the military, the list is endless...

Amazing, just amazing.

forged alloy
01-20-2009, 07:46 AM
That is sort of funny Robo, shut up and get to work...they aren't even in office yet. You guys are so eager for them to fail.

If they fail, we all fail. No one is hoping for that despite your blinders. Robo is open-minded, you sir appear less so. We should all remain sceptical of our political leaders despite which side of the aisle they sit. All of them have failed us.

Hope is not a strategy. Hope is not a plan of action. So far thats all I've heard from this team, so I have concern. I am dissapointed that he has surrounded himself with the same old tired political machine. He seems to be the main if not only fresh, new face in the administration.

I wish him well. Play a drinking game today. Shot glass of beer for every time an announcer says "historic" during the coverage. You will be blitzed by noon.

coolwhip
01-20-2009, 08:15 AM
I wonder if their going to change the name of the White house.:D

I am also curious to see if the new limo has spinners on it...lol

homersodyssey
01-20-2009, 08:21 AM
It's pretty thick up here too. Some city radio stations sent correspondents for live coverage. However, if Peggy Joseph is correct and no one has to worry about paying their mortgage anymore, then heck - party on!

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 08:30 AM
[QUOTE=forged alloy;2239622]If they fail, we all fail. No one is hoping for that despite your blinders. Robo is open-minded, you sir appear less so. QUOTE]

This isn't true, I voted Reagan and Bush the first time. Robo can be very closed minded when it comes to politics, I know the abuse I took during the campaign. Not necessarily from Robo, but he is die hard neo-conservative and I am not.

Now he paints the picture of open mindedness...during the campaign that wasn't always the case. I will say that after the campaign Robo has the best attitude and approach even though his team lost.

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 08:54 AM
lets pray,that he will be a true bi-partison,and govern from the center and not the left side:rolleyes:
Amen to that. The more President Obama is shifting his positioning, the more I am thinking that a lot of the Socialist speak during the election may have just been to get votes. I'm hoping so.

In all honesty, it is kinda neat to be living during this milestone in American history.

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 08:59 AM
That is sort of funny Robo, shut up and get to work...they aren't even in office yet. You guys are so eager for them to fail.
This is just not fair for you to post. I have consistantly stated that I want the very best for President Obama and hope that he is one of the best presidents we have ever had.

Why on Earth would anyone want our president to fail? That is just stupid. Our president fails, we suffer. I don't care about party affiliation or even political stance as long as my president does well by the American people and promotes prosperity in the United States.

As for not getting to work, there was a lot of preliminary work that needed to be done that President Obama simply did not do. That is coming from disgruntled Democrats in Congress, not me.

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 09:03 AM
I am just amazed the picture that is painted about the people that support Obama, they must all be on welfare and drug addicts. :rolleyes:

Lets see, I am well educated, make 6 figures plus a year (actually household income was over 200K when wife was working, lost her job in this economy...but that is another thread) I own two houses, I'm an involved parent of three little angels, faithful husband, etc...

And I support Obama 110%, already had 8 years of stubborn shoot from the hip, do what I want attitude. :rolleyes:

I want somebody that can think with some intelligents. I don't know how anybody can even take shots at Obama, I respect him. Came from nothing, could have just hung out on the streets. Paid his way through school working odd jobs, took care of his sick mom, became rich as an attorney, could have ran for seat but stayed behind working for peanuts in the city he loved...

Whats not to respect?

But you guys respect the guy whose family buys his way into college, has daddy spoon feed him company's that he bankrupts, cheats his way out of the military, the list is endless...

Amazing, just amazing.
And you have just lumped all of us who did not vote for President Obama into one idiotically described group just as Glenn did for those who voted for President Obama.

What gives hvac rus2? Have you gone over to the Elton John side of life? Your posts are really sounding more effeminin every day;) Hope you ain't on the juice with all of that body building stuff. That stuff will turn you into a girly boy you know:D

k-fridge
01-20-2009, 09:04 AM
As for not getting to work, there was a lot of preliminary work that needed to be done that President Obama simply did not do. That is coming from disgruntled Democrats in Congress, not me.
So far, it looks like the real battle will be between Obama and Queen Pelosi. I've been following her statements since well before the election and she honestly thinks she's in charge. She will try and push through a very radical agenda. Obama has recently indicated he'll take a somewhat more centrist approach. I hope that's true, though it won't play well with The Nancynator.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 09:05 AM
Through out history inaugurations are mostly privately funded, this one is no different.

This one is very different. The chunk the taxpayers ALWAYS fund is the security. This one is VERY different.

There's been plenty of publicity surrounding it, read some of it. Security wouldn't be quite as bad either if there weren't 4 days of concerts and such. :rolleyes:

k-fridge
01-20-2009, 09:08 AM
There's been plenty of publicity surrounding it, read some of it. Security wouldn't be quite as bad either if there weren't 4 days of concerts and such. :rolleyes:

Well, the entertainment industry has to have their collective orgasm over the event.

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 09:11 AM
[quote=forged alloy;2239622]If they fail, we all fail. No one is hoping for that despite your blinders. Robo is open-minded, you sir appear less so. QUOTE]

This isn't true, I voted Reagan and Bush the first time. Robo can be very closed minded when it comes to politics, I know the abuse I took during the campaign. Not necessarily from Robo, but he is die hard neo-conservative and I am not.

Now he paints the picture of open mindedness...during the campaign that wasn't always the case. I will say that after the campaign Robo has the best attitude and approach even though his team lost.
Come on now! During the campaign I wanted another candidate to win, so of course I was rallying for my guy and against yours. Well; your guy won and he is now "our" guy. It's a shame that leftists did not feel that President Bush was "their" guy. The more we divide our nation, the easier we are to be put down.

And I not a neo-conservative. I have been politically conservative ever since realizing in my hippie days that leftists were being manipulated heavily by American Communist factions. I turned my "Independant" voters card in for my "Republican" voter card within a year of being able to vote and getting heavily into politics.

I want to party with leftists, but I want more central conservatives as my countries leadership. That said, President Obama is now my president and I will hold him and his office in high esteem and respect until the day I take up arms against my government or leave my country of birth.

Gib's Son
01-20-2009, 09:16 AM
I read this very same story about a week ago. The one part I disagree with, is the mid-west being under Canadian influence. If I'm Russia or China, why would I give much of the Great Lakes and the bread basket to the Canadians?. Why not just take it? Sorry Canada, but do you think you have the military to match that of Russia or China? Personally, I do not think so.

I first ran across the story about 3 months ago. You do need to take it with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting in light of all that is going on and what is being planned.

Mr Bill
01-20-2009, 09:19 AM
I sure will be glad when the party's over and the real life world for the Messiah kicks in, this will probably be his last party, it's all going to be uphill from here, I just want to know where's my check? :D

kritic
01-20-2009, 10:13 AM
Check should be in the mail soon sad thing is our kids and grandkids will be the ones who have to suffer for all his outrageous spending

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 10:19 AM
I first ran across the story about 3 months ago. You do need to take it with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting in light of all that is going on and what is being planned.

Its sad to say but after 8 years of self gratification in the w/h there is a big mess to clean up.

k-fridge
01-20-2009, 10:43 AM
Its sad to say but after 8 years of self gratification in the w/h there is a big mess to clean up.
You still haven't figure out that congress is who spends the money and controls the regulation, have you?

Will you hold Obama responsible for any and every thing as you have Bush?

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 10:46 AM
Here's a breakdown for those that don't think taxpayer dollars go to inaugurations.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/16/news/economy/inauguration_costs/

So, federal money. As far as I know, the federal government is funded by the American taxpayer. Yes, there is a good deal of money not covered by taxpayer dollars but it's nothing compared to what IS covered by taxpayer dollars.

Smoke and mirrors. :rolleyes:

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 10:47 AM
You still haven't figure out that congress is who spends the money and controls the regulation, have you?

Will you hold Obama responsible for any and every thing as you have Bush?

you bet your butt I will, and from 1/95-1/07 a republican congress sent spending bills to a republican prez.

My bad from 1/01-1/07 they sent it to a rep. and from 1/95-1/01 to a dem.

k-fridge
01-20-2009, 10:52 AM
you bet your butt I will, and from 1/95-1/07 a republican congress sent spending bills to a republican prez.

My bad from 1/01-1/07 they sent it to a rep. and from 1/95-1/01 to a dem.

I've never denied that the last Republican congress threw money around like it grew on trees. Just remember that the Pelosi/Reid congress did too, and they will probably be even worse in the coming years.

You got what you wanted, enjoy it.

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 10:57 AM
I've never denied that the last Republican congress threw money around like it grew on trees. Just remember that the Pelosi/Reid congress did too, and they will probably be even worse in the coming years.

You got what you wanted, enjoy it.

Maybe I will and maybe I won't, but unlike others around here I won't put up with stupidity.

Richard Kletty
01-20-2009, 11:22 AM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.

Sounds about right to me...

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 12:41 PM
Sounds about right to me...

Now dick your letting you neocon side show through.

If you do run for office, when pandering to the undecided voters, how will you make a line like" I am bipartisan" stick?

coolwhip
01-20-2009, 12:57 PM
"but unlike others around here I won't put up with stupidity".

Then how do you put up with yourself?:rolleyes:

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 01:00 PM
"but unlike others around here I won't put up with stupidity".

Then how do you put up with yourself?:rolleyes:

You so funny

I ain't heard that one since second grade.

Got any more?

coolwhip
01-20-2009, 01:07 PM
You so funny

I ain't heard that one since second grade.

Got any more?

I got a bunch, but only if you say something stupid again.:p

k-fridge
01-20-2009, 01:16 PM
Easy now boys....

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 01:28 PM
Easy now boys....

On a scale of 1to 10 that might be a 2

Lighten up k, its a day to celebrity


Well if your a liberal,commie loving,druggy,morrally bankrupt, hater of the American way kind of person.

Once again for the comedicly challenged, that was a joke.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 04:39 PM
This one is very different. The chunk the taxpayers ALWAYS fund is the security. This one is VERY different.



Absolutely, we agree. But let me ask you...does Obama have to be a little more concerned than other president elects about assassination?

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 04:47 PM
And you have just lumped all of us who did not vote for President Obama into one idiotically described group just as Glenn did for those who voted for President Obama.




Your right, I aplogize...that doesn't make me a girly man for saying I was wrong right? :D

I guess I am lashing out and grouping people the same way I felt it has been done to me...still doesn't make it right.

Your a good guy Robo, I had some really knock down drag out fights and abuse from supporting Obama during the election...guess it left a bad taste in my mouth. People that are now supporting the Republican party are not all the same as much as all Obama supporters are not all the same.

Ohhh, and I am not back on the sauce...been a long time. Told my doctor I was thinking of doing an over 40 show, and felt one cycle wouldn't hurt anything.

He told me to "get the f**k out!" LOL

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 04:53 PM
Absolutely, we agree. But let me ask you...does Obama have to be a little more concerned than other president elects about assassination?

It's not that. They are not treating him any differently and why would they? As head of state, no matter what color, all threats are treated with the utmost seriousness.
It's the size of the crowds that are choking the city.

Since at least 9/11 every head of state has felt a heightened concern about assassination. I understand that the secret service is the best at what they do. It's the security that's had to be provided for everyone else that is ballooning the price tag out of the stratosphere. You have that many people, you gotta have security. Not just there but in every route TO there.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 04:54 PM
It's not that. They are not treating him any differently and why would they? As head of state, no matter what color, all threats are treated with the utmost seriousness.
It's the size of the crowds that are choking the city.

Since at least 9/11 every head of state has felt a heightened concern about assassination. I understand that the secret service is the best at what they do. It's the security that's had to be provided for everyone else that is ballooning the price tag out of the stratosphere. You have that many people, you gotta have security. Not just there but in every route TO there.

So let me ask again, you don't believe that Obama needs higher security?

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 04:58 PM
No.

Why would he? If the HIGHEST SECURITY POSSIBLE was already in place then what's higher?
If you're already doing everything possible, what more should be expected? If the President of the United States is already protected to the best of anyone's ability what more should/could be asked for.

Just because people perceive there are persons out there that don't want a Black Man as President doesn't mean his risks as President are any greater than past POTUS. How many assassinations have there been? And, how many of them have been white men? 100% If someone is hell bent on doing it they'll try. He already HAS the best protection possible. There is NO HIGHER unless he'd like to live as a mole somewhere without contact with a single soul.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 05:00 PM
So let me ask again, you don't believe that Obama needs higher security?

Are you somehow saying that Mr. Bush and Mr. Clinton WEREN'T protected with the highest security possible?
Cause, if there is higher security then that would be my conclusion.

Richard Kletty
01-20-2009, 05:00 PM
Now dick your letting you neocon side show through.

If you do run for office, when pandering to the undecided voters, how will you make a line like" I am bipartisan" stick?

I wont. Because Ill be turning the country back into what it was meant to be.

You know hate for any and everyone who doesnt agree with correct agenda</joke>

I didnt say I was running for Federal Gov.

BTW, I prefer to be called Richard. Unless you want me to start slinging that disdain your way?

Believe me Im hoping he will be a great President. He can accomplish this easily by keeping the blood out of the streets. One wrong move and it wont be pretty.

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 05:07 PM
So let me ask again, you don't believe that Obama needs higher security?

Do you know how many times bush came to Atlanta and screwed up an already screwed up rush hour for a fund raiser, and lets not forget when he let some people go for a joy ride in a nuc sub and for kicks they sunk a jap fishing boat



I just through in "for kicks" I am pretty sure it was an accident.

mikethe ductman
01-20-2009, 05:21 PM
I wont. Because Ill be turning the country back into what it was meant to be.

You know hate for any and everyone who doesnt agree with correct agenda</joke>

I didnt say I was running for Federal Gov.

BTW, I prefer to be called Richard. Unless you want me to start slinging that disdain your way?

Believe me Im hoping he will be a great President. He can accomplish this easily by keeping the blood out of the streets. One wrong move and it wont be pretty.


My bad richard"thats a lot of letters thats why I go with mike instead of michael" I thought you were thinking about running for congress in a few years.

But it better that you don't if you view people like the first post in this thread did.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 05:26 PM
No.

Why would he? If the HIGHEST SECURITY POSSIBLE was already in place then what's higher?
If you're already doing everything possible, what more should be expected? If the President of the United States is already protected to the best of anyone's ability what more should/could be asked for.

Just because people perceive there are persons out there that don't want a Black Man as President doesn't mean his risks as President are any greater than past POTUS. How many assassinations have there been? And, how many of them have been white men? 100% If someone is hell bent on doing it they'll try. He already HAS the best protection possible. There is NO HIGHER unless he'd like to live as a mole somewhere without contact with a single soul.

Now your just playing right? Of course he needs higher security, higher security means more and lots of it...subsequently it cost more. He has had more threats before being president than most have in their entire term. If you believe he is not a target because of race your in denial. Of course 100%of presidential assassinations have been white men, this doesn't need further explaining why right? :D

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 05:35 PM
I'm disappointed that you think I'm joking.

Our President of the United States gets the highest security regardless of race, age, political party, state of origin or any other differing factors. Because Obama has received 'more' death threats already just means the security has an identity of possible origins of threats. President Bush's life was no less guarded because he was a white man than President Obama's will be more guarded because he is a black man. The Secret Service will give their very best no matter what--if they were to give less to someone else would be the only way to subsequently give more.
So, I'm guessing you feel President Obama somehow deserves more protection of his life than previous Presidents???? We've had no real assassination attempt since Reagan and the Secret Service is proud of that fact. I don't think they have to 'step up' their game any just because of the new President's race. I'd be disappointed if they did because that would say they didn't feel previous President's deserved the 'full treatment'.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 05:42 PM
You need to look no further than the car he rides in to know he is going to receive more security, and it will cost more.

I dont necessarily think he deserves more as you put it, but he will get more because threat of assassination is higher.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 05:48 PM
Each President gets a new car. Check history. Some of them even get more than one during their tenure. Called progress.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 05:51 PM
Each President gets a new car. Check history. Some of them even get more than one during their tenure. Called progress.

I realize that, my point is do you think Obamas car cost a little more and better protected?

Roscoe
01-20-2009, 06:04 PM
With the exception of the viewing stands and close by, all the rest of the stands are empty..............:D

ya gotta love the Military Bands though.............Nothing like

Stars and Stripes Forever....just sends chills down any Red Blooded Americans spine, especially when played by the Marine Marching Band...........

or Anchors Away by the Navy Marching Band...............


The rest is just a bunch a jumping around with drums.............

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 06:08 PM
Sigh.
:o

Mr. Bush's first car was better than Mr. Clinton's. It's progress--car gets better, ways to armor, different types of electronics etc. Mr. Bush's second car was better than his first. Mr. Obama's car will be better than Mr. Bush's last. The next President may be flown about in an armored flying saucer. Doesn't mean he needs better protection. Just means it's now available.

I'm going to agree to disagree with you. I'm glad President Bush was never harmed (even by flying shoes) and I hope President Obama never is. But, that won't be due to him having better or higher security than President Bush. It will be due to the best protection in the world delivered by the Secret Service as they've striven to protect each and every President of the United States.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 06:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_State_Car_(United_States)

Information concerning the fact that each Presidential car gets a little better--no matter who the President is.

Uglier maybe too.

coolwhip
01-20-2009, 06:17 PM
Hey...whats so secret about the Secret Service anyway?:confused:

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 06:22 PM
Shhh!

Can't tell ya....would have to....you know!

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 06:26 PM
According to wiki
Secret Service was the first U.S. domestic intelligence and counterintelligence agency, hence its name, "Secret Service." Domestic intelligence collection and counterintelligence responsibilities were vested in the FBI after the FBI's creation in 1908. The U.S. Secret Service is not part of the U.S. Intelligence Community.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 06:42 PM
Sigh.
:o

Mr. Bush's first car was better than Mr. Clinton's. It's progress--car gets better, ways to armor, different types of electronics etc. Mr. Bush's second car was better than his first. Mr. Obama's car will be better than Mr. Bush's last. The next President may be flown about in an armored flying saucer. Doesn't mean he needs better protection. Just means it's now available.

I'm going to agree to disagree with you. I'm glad President Bush was never harmed (even by flying shoes) and I hope President Obama never is. But, that won't be due to him having better or higher security than President Bush. It will be due to the best protection in the world delivered by the Secret Service as they've striven to protect each and every President of the United States.


We can agree to disagree, no problem. I am just unclear..you do not feel Obama is under greater threat?

KLEINman
01-20-2009, 06:48 PM
Now your just playing right? Of course he needs higher security, higher security means more and lots of it...subsequently it cost more. He has had more threats before being president than most have in their entire term. If you believe he is not a target because of race your in denial. Of course 100%of presidential assassinations have been white men, this doesn't need further explaining why right? :D

Just because he is the first black pres and has had more assasination threats doesnt mean he has to be any more protected than the last. He is now the leader of our country and will get the same treatmeant as all of the other presidents have, NO MORE, NO LESS.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 06:52 PM
Just because he is the first black pres and has had more assasination threats doesnt mean he has to be any more protected than the last. He is now the leader of our country and will get the same treatmeant as all of the other presidents have, NO MORE, NO LESS.

So tell me why security costs are higher for this inauguration?

glennac
01-20-2009, 06:54 PM
And you have just lumped all of us who did not vote for President Obama into one idiotically described group just as Glenn did for those who voted for President Obama...................

Allow me to say something here. For the last 6 months or more we have been hammered with hate Bush posts by leftists, socialists, commies, etc. With wild unfounded charges and out right lies about Bush. No amount of logic and facts could stop them from posting this trash almost every day. Sure you can disagree and argue your points but be true full and don't lie. Well my blast was aimed at that crowd and not at everyone who voted for Obama mistakenly or not.

No one on the liberal or left side came forward to say this isn't true. They just stayed in the background enjoying I presume the hate posts. You don't have a robo who will admit that some of this BS is just BS. Robo even thinks Obama might "change" and do good despite his public pronouncements to the contrary.

Havc r us 2 I didn't see you speaking up about it. Now if I lumped you into that group well I am sorry but I just let it out and got it off my chest. My comments do cover a lot of his support in my opinion but not all of course. I realize that even some financially responsible Blacks might vote for him just because there never has been a Black as President and didn't care about his socialist views and past associations but that still doesn't mean it is right or responsible. So if I put some of you in that category who doesn't belong then I apologise but to those who want a socialist commie America I have no apology. Thank you very much.

KLEINman
01-20-2009, 06:58 PM
So tell me why security costs are higher for this inauguration?

Beacuse of the amount of people attending the inauguration, tell me the last time bus loads of people, from cites far and wide have traveled to see the inauguration of the president? The higher cost of security is not cause of the presidents race or assasination threats, but because of the amount of people who will have to be watched.

frostman
01-20-2009, 06:59 PM
Yeah there will be celebrating in the streets, the low lifes will be getting high on drugs and fornicating in celebration of the destruction of our great country. What a shame to have to witness this debauchery which will be happening all across the country. Sorry just had to say it. That is about how I feel about it.

Holy crap you're right for once! I just heard that drug use hit an all time high today..everyone's stoned! And sex...oh glorious sex...I seen people getting it on everywhere I looked..HALLELUJAH!

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 06:59 PM
Allow me to say something here. For the last 6 months or more we have been hammered with hate Bush posts by leftists, socialists, commies, etc. With wild unfounded charges and out right lies about Bush. No amount of logic and facts could stop them from posting this trash almost every day. Sure you can disagree and argue your points but be true full and don't lie. Well my blast was aimed at that crowd and not at everyone who voted for Obama mistakenly or not.

No one on the liberal or left side came forward to say this isn't true. They just stayed in the background enjoying I presume the hate posts. You don't have a robo who will admit that some of this BS is just BS. Robo even thinks Obama might "change" do good despite his public pronouncements to the contrary.

Havc r us 2 I didn't see you speaking up about it. Now if I lumped you into that group well I am sorry but I just let it out and got it off my chest. My comments do cover a lot of his support in my opinion but not all of course. I realize that even some financially responsible Blacks might vote for him just because there never has been a Black as President and didn't care about his socialist views and past associations but that still doesn't mean it is right or responsible. So if I put some of you in that category who doesn't belong then I apologise but to those who want a socialist commie America I have no apology. Thank you very much.

You don't owe me any apology, you get frustrated and you let it rip...I do it all the time. I actually understand the frustration and do the same thing.

Took Robo as the voice of reason to get me think I am doing the same thing to people that I despise.

Robo as the voice of reason...now I am scared! :eek:

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:01 PM
Beacuse of the amount of people attending the inauguration, tell me the last time bus loads of people, from cites far and wide have traveled to see the inauguration of the president? The higher cost of security is not cause of the presidents race or assasination threats, but because of the amount of people who will have to be watched.

You should probably look into the projected security cost of the Obama term, highest in history.

k-fridge
01-20-2009, 07:01 PM
Took Robo as the voice of reason to get me think I am doing the same thing to people that I despise.

Robo as the voice of reason...now I am scared! :eek:

Geeze, Robo will have the big head now. :p

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:04 PM
Geeze, Robo will have the big head now. :p

If it gets any bigger we can float it in the Thanksgiving Day parade.

KLEINman
01-20-2009, 07:07 PM
You should probably look into the projected security cost of the Obama term, highest in history.

Yes, i didnt say that wasnt true, but it is not because he has to be protected more than other presidents. Look at the attendence predictions, there is your answer for the hightened cost of security.



On a side not, does anyone else see what is bein advertised???
Obama mint canisters, Obama T-Shirts, i just recieved an email from barnes and knobles with FIVE diff books for sale about obama, ive even seen beach bags. ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Roscoe
01-20-2009, 07:10 PM
Did you notice the bald headed SS guy with them big ears who walked down Penn Ave also had a slight gimp on the right knee...............I saw it........bet some others did.............;)

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:14 PM
Yes, i didnt say that wasnt true, but it is not because he has to be protected more than other presidents. Look at the attendence predictions, there is your answer for the hightened cost of security.



On a side not, does anyone else see what is bein advertised???
Obama mint canisters, Obama T-Shirts, i just recieved an email from barnes and knobles with FIVE diff books for sale about obama, ive even seen beach bags. ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!!:rolleyes:


I cant believe you guys don't believe Obama is under greater threat than other presidents, and therefore will have higher protection...oh well, to each his own.

Your not going to buy any of the Obama coins? :D

KLEINman
01-20-2009, 07:17 PM
I cant believe you guys don't believe Obama is under greater threat than other presidents, and therefore will have higher protection...oh well, to each his own.

Your not going to buy any of the Obama coins? :D


ROTFLMAO, the will be in my collection soon:rolleyes:, they are not even from the US mint, says so on the commercial.

glennac
01-20-2009, 07:18 PM
Did you notice the bald headed SS guy with them big ears who walked down Penn Ave also had a slight gimp on the right knee...............I saw it........bet some others did.............;)

What's you doing watching the inauguration Roscoe? I'm beginning to wonder about you.:)

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:26 PM
ROTFLMAO, the will be in my collection soon:rolleyes:, they are not even from the US mint, says so on the commercial.


Certainly you will change your mind when you consider Montell Williams is hocking them!

Maybe they should get Billy Maze, he can sell anything!

KLEINman
01-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Certainly you will change your mind when you consider Montell Williams is hocking them!

Maybe they should get Billy Maze, he can sell anything!


I personally like Vince from SHAM WOW Lmao, he is the new billy mays.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 07:47 PM
I personally like Vince from SHAM WOW Lmao, he is the new billy mays.


LMAO!!!! Yeah, he's great. :rolleyes:

Roscoe
01-20-2009, 08:43 PM
What's you doing watching the inauguration Roscoe? I'm beginning to wonder about you.:)

heh......I look for the small signals that show the hidden agendas......I know you know .............That when someone talks you don't just listen to what they have to say...............another words.......their words alone..............you take their body language, their...........inflection, poise...........

To me .......What you have to say..........don't mean she!t..............how you say it is everything..........;)

This guy scares me......................................a little..........he's just..........too .............Who you want him to be................Jim Jones like..............

JasonHoustonTX
01-20-2009, 09:13 PM
Why on Earth would anyone want our president to fail? That is just stupid. Our president fails, we suffer. I don't care about party affiliation or even political stance as long as my president does well by the American people and promotes prosperity in the United States.


I agree 100% with ya Robo. However, there are plenty who want him to fail.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html

I can't blame the far right. If I listen to Rush & Hanity for 5 hours a day, I would lose a grip on reality also.

I am in the middle on most views, but the far right really do scare the hell out of me.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 09:20 PM
I agree 100% with ya Robo. However, there are plenty who want him to fail.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html

I can't blame the far right. If I listen to Rush & Hanity for 5 hours a day, I would lose a grip on reality also.

I am in the middle on most views, but the far right really do scare the hell out of me.

Rush is out there, people love him though. :confused: When you are working class with a drug addiction you are scum, if you are a radio celebrity you have an illness. :rolleyes:

It's disgusting the blindfolds people put on, the same thing Rush is guilty of he wanted your kids to be put away for life. He is the Jim Jones of radio.

hvac248
01-20-2009, 09:34 PM
nobody wants to see a president fail , no country can tax there way to prosperity, history will now tell, Hollywood is now in D.C. GOD HELP US!

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 09:45 PM
Beacuse of the amount of people attending the inauguration, tell me the last time bus loads of people, from cites far and wide have traveled to see the inauguration of the president? The higher cost of security is not cause of the presidents race or assasination threats, but because of the amount of people who will have to be watched.

Wonder how much the 'whistle stop' tour added to security costs?

How about those concerts? Beyonce? Bono? Miley? whoever else with celebrity that had a concert. They needed security too.

More people equal more services of every type. Porta Potty, police, fire, emergency, food, cleanup -- you name it.

KLEINman
01-20-2009, 09:47 PM
Wonder how much the 'whistle stop' tour added to security costs?

How about those concerts? Beyonce? Bono? Miley? whoever else with celebrity that had a concert. They needed security too.

More people equal more services of every type. Porta Potty, police, fire, emergency, food, cleanup -- you name it.

Our tax dollars at work, gotta love it.

And i didnt even get Mileys autograph:mad::D

Roscoe
01-20-2009, 09:58 PM
nobody wants to see a president fail , no country can tax there way to prosperity, history will now tell, Hollywood is now in D.C. GOD HELP US!

did you mean Hollywood is now in DS........as in..........Deep Sh!t............

Holly Wood ......what a bunch of self gratuitous a$$holes...........without the idiot hat backward....my parents pay for everything...kids...text one another.......a'holes..........they wouldn't exist.................well except for the Japanese........and all the media starved Euros............

glennac
01-20-2009, 10:01 PM
Rush is out there, people love him though. :confused: When you are working class with a drug addiction you are scum, if you are a radio celebrity you have an illness. :rolleyes:

It's disgusting the blindfolds people put on, the same thing Rush is guilty of he wanted your kids to be put away for life. He is the Jim Jones of radio.

With all due respect hvac you are wrong about Rush. He got addicted to prescription pain pills. Now I have never been for the drug war on those stupid enough to use it. They need help not punishment and I have never heard Rush before or since he had his drug problem go after users and support the draconian measures used against them.

They can execute immediately after trial the big drug traffickers who make millions. That's how I feel and most of my friends feel the same way. I never have taken drugs and never will (don't like hippies) but I pity those stupid enough to mess with it. They destroy your lives and I wish I knew who supports the war against users. I am against making it legal because it will kill you. Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth. I know you don't listen to Rush and assume that all conservatives and right wingers support wiping out idiots who use drugs but you are wrong there.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 10:06 PM
I'd say it has to depend upon the addiction somewhat. If you got prescription pills prescribed to you and you get addicted and you can still get the script then you have a dr. problem in addition to your addiction.

If it's illegal drugs, pot, coke, meth, heroin etc. then you started out on the wrong side. And, if you try to get right it's one story. If you don't, it's another.

But, once someone kicks those types of habits then they should be viewed as a survivor, stronger than they were--regardless of celebrity or not.

I've never been a Rush L. fan, actually can't stand the buttwipe (is that name calling?) but if he overcame his addictions then I do admire him for it.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 10:11 PM
With all due respect hvac you are wrong about Rush. He got addicted to prescription pain pills. Now I have never been for the drug war on those stupid enough to use it. They need help not punishment and I have never heard Rush before or since he had his drug problem go after users and support the draconian measures used against them.

They can execute immediately after trial the big drug traffickers who make millions. That's how I feel and most of my friends feel the same way. I never have taken drugs and never will (don't like hippies) but I pity those stupid enough to mess with it. They destroy your lives and I wish I knew who supports the war against users. I am against making it legal because it will kill you. Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth. I know you don't listen to Rush and assume that all conservatives and right wingers support wiping out idiots who use drugs but you are wrong there.

I actually have listened to Rush extensively, he abolished kids to a life sentence for drug use. Said they would never be a productive person in society and they should spend their life behind bars.

That is of course until he was guilty of the same charge. :rolleyes:

He is scum, sorry.

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 10:13 PM
I'd say it has to depend upon the addiction somewhat. If you got prescription pills prescribed to you and you get addicted and you can still get the script then you have a dr. problem in addition to your addiction.

If it's illegal drugs, pot, coke, meth, heroin etc. then you started out on the wrong side. And, if you try to get right it's one story. If you don't, it's another.

But, once someone kicks those types of habits then they should be viewed as a survivor, stronger than they were--regardless of celebrity or not.

I've never been a Rush L. fan, actually can't stand the buttwipe (is that name calling?) but if he overcame his addictions then I do admire him for it.


Shouldn't everybody with an addiction have the same chance? Not according to buttwipe...er Rush. :o

Roscoe
01-20-2009, 10:15 PM
I'd say it has to depend upon the addiction somewhat. If you got prescription pills prescribed to you and you get addicted and you can still get the script then you have a dr. problem in addition to your addiction.

If it's illegal drugs, pot, coke, meth, heroin etc. then you started out on the wrong side. And, if you try to get right it's one story. If you don't, it's another.

But, once someone kicks those types of habits then they should be viewed as a survivor, stronger than they were--regardless of celebrity or not.

I've never been a Rush L. fan, actually can't stand the buttwipe (is that name calling?) but if he overcame his addictions then I do admire him for it.

So what are you shootin, snorting or popin there Reb.......sounds as if you have a lot of insight....................jes/kidden..........here can I help ya down from that soap box..............;)

how bout I send ya some flowers when ya complete yer program...........:D

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 10:15 PM
I actually have listened to Rush extensively, he abolished kids to a life sentence for drug use. Said they would never be a productive person in society and they should spend their life behind bars.

That is of course until he was guilty of the same charge. :rolleyes:

He is scum, sorry.


Wow, that's pretty judgmental.

I almost had the feeling you were a Democrat but, we all know, they're the self professed 'live and let live' non judgmental class so I guess I was wrong. Ooops.


In my mind I would think of 'scum' as those that are dealers of drugs to make money off of the depredations of others, those that commit felonious crimes while under the influence of drugs and those that do all the hard drugs without thought to cleaning up,-- stealing and all to feed their habits. Yours is an easier definition though I guess.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 10:17 PM
So what are you shootin, snorting or popin there Reb.......sounds as if you have a lot of insight....................jes/kidden..........here can I help ya down from that soap box..............;)

how bout I send ya some flowers when ya complete yer program...........:D

Gosh, that was funny! You have so many of them too!


:o

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 10:17 PM
Maybe I will and maybe I won't, but unlike others around here I won't put up with stupidity.
I knew it! You don't even read your own posts:D;)

I do hope you won't go back on your words here. Many of us who supported most of President Bush's decisions also questioned many others. I just hope President Obama does good by the citizens of the United States. Those who are idolizing President Obama are going to have a much harder fall if President Obama bombs.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 10:19 PM
Shouldn't everybody with an addiction have the same chance? Not according to buttwipe...er Rush. :o

Hmm. I hadn't heard that he had an opinion that all addicts didn't have the same chance.

I certainly think that everyone should be given the change to clean up.



I think he's a butthead because of his obnoxious speaking manner. Can't stand Bill O. either for the same reason.

Roscoe
01-20-2009, 10:28 PM
I actually have listened to Rush extensively, he abolished kids to a life sentence for drug use. Said they would never be a productive person in society and they should spend their life behind bars.

That is of course until he was guilty of the same charge. :rolleyes:

He is scum, sorry.

ahhhhh maybe he was speaking to intercity kids and their parents............because they are more susceptible to peer pressure,..... more often..than there rural counterparts...............

Roscoe
01-20-2009, 10:31 PM
Gosh, that was funny! You have so many of them too!


:o




;).........jes trying to keep it lite.......................and even..........:D

hvac r us 2
01-20-2009, 10:34 PM
Wow, that's pretty judgmental.

I almost had the feeling you were a Democrat but, we all know, they're the self professed 'live and let live' non judgmental class so I guess I was wrong. Ooops.


In my mind I would think of 'scum' as those that are dealers of drugs to make money off of the depredations of others, those that commit felonious crimes while under the influence of drugs and those that do all the hard drugs without thought to cleaning up,-- stealing and all to feed their habits. Yours is an easier definition though I guess.


Funny, I have been a registered Republican since I was able to vote! Rush committed a felony when he repeatedly bought prescription drugs on the black market, to feed his addition he went outside the medical industry...you know, like a drug addict. Except he gets a second chance. That is of course after he denied it until there was written proof, then he caved.

Like I said, scum.

mrs reb77
01-20-2009, 10:44 PM
Well, if he 'cleaned up' and he gets the same chances as everyone else, maybe he WAS scum but, no longer. That's the way it works.


I was addicted to cigarettes for many many years. I thought those people that couldn't stand cig smoke were pretty obnoxious.
Little did I realize. Now I know who the obnoxious ones are. But, I do still understand the ones that smoke--most are oblivious to the logic of the issue--they are the problem, not the non-smoker. They only think of their 'rights' as a smoker. A persecuted smoker, at that.

Sometimes lives change in major ways and people that once were one thing are now another.

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 10:49 PM
So let me ask again, you don't believe that Obama needs higher security?
No. The amount of security for the president cannot even be higher unless the president puts himself in a more precarious position, such as riding a train which is on a very set path that cannot be altered by one inch to either side,.

The last three presidents to have had assasination attempts were all White Republicans.

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 10:59 PM
We can agree to disagree, no problem. I am just unclear..you do not feel Obama is under greater threat?
May we assume you do feel President Obama deserves or warrants more protection then previous presidents? Why, and how?

whec720
01-20-2009, 11:01 PM
Funny, I have been a registered Republican since I was able to vote! Rush committed a felony when he repeatedly bought prescription drugs on the black market, to feed his addition he went outside the medical industry...you know, like a drug addict. Except he gets a second chance. That is of course after he denied it until there was written proof, then he caved.

Like I said, scum.

Speaking of second chances, I heard of this guy who is a Senator, or something like that. Anyway, he gets really drunk at a party and decides to leave, driving himself home. Did I mention he did not leave alone. He leaves with this lady, a former campaign worker, I recall. Anyway, it wasn't his wife.
So he takes the wrong turn, attempts to cross a bridge with no rails and well, how do I put this. He does not make it over. In fact, the car goes over, sideways, and lands upside down in the water.
Luckily, he escapes without injury and all is forgotten. Oh wait, the lady in the car! Oh well, screw her, let her find her own way out, he decides.
The former campaign worker was not so lucky, she drowned.
Anyhow, this senator still has his job and has never served a lick of jail time.

Like you said before, scum.

sline-dawg
01-20-2009, 11:10 PM
Seems to be plenty of scum in the world......:mad:

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 11:28 PM
I agree 100% with ya Robo. However, there are plenty who want him to fail.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html

I can't blame the far right. If I listen to Rush & Hanity for 5 hours a day, I would lose a grip on reality also.

I am in the middle on most views, but the far right really do scare the hell out of me.
I can rarely take more then ten minutes of those guys at a time, and that's when I'm agreeing with them. Why the hell do those idiots feel that we need to be yelled at by them?

JasonHoustonTX
01-20-2009, 11:42 PM
Why the hell do those idiots feel that we need to be yelled at by them?

Couldn't have said it better.

It's strange. They seem to think the volume on the radio is too low and proceed to yell like I just forgot to take out the garbage like I was living with mom and dad again.

The constant up and down vocal levels makes me want to jam a couple of #2 pencil in my ears.

RoBoTeq
01-20-2009, 11:58 PM
With all due respect hvac you are wrong about Rush. He got addicted to prescription pain pills. Now I have never been for the drug war on those stupid enough to use it. They need help not punishment and I have never heard Rush before or since he had his drug problem go after users and support the draconian measures used against them.

They can execute immediately after trial the big drug traffickers who make millions. That's how I feel and most of my friends feel the same way. I never have taken drugs and never will (don't like hippies) but I pity those stupid enough to mess with it. They destroy your lives and I wish I knew who supports the war against users. I am against making it legal because it will kill you. Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth. I know you don't listen to Rush and assume that all conservatives and right wingers support wiping out idiots who use drugs but you are wrong there.
Well Glenn, you can't expect a liberal to be fair about something like illegal drug abuse vs prescription drug dependency. Liberals will tell us that a bj is not sex but a quick shoulder rub is sexual harassment.

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 12:02 AM
I'd say it has to depend upon the addiction somewhat. If you got prescription pills prescribed to you and you get addicted and you can still get the script then you have a dr. problem in addition to your addiction.

If it's illegal drugs, pot, coke, meth, heroin etc. then you started out on the wrong side. And, if you try to get right it's one story. If you don't, it's another.

But, once someone kicks those types of habits then they should be viewed as a survivor, stronger than they were--regardless of celebrity or not.

I've never been a Rush L. fan, actually can't stand the buttwipe (is that name calling?) but if he overcame his addictions then I do admire him for it.
All right! I'm a survivor:p. I guess my claim to fame from that life is doing 50 hits of orange barrel sunshine in two weeks:eek:

Richard Kletty
01-21-2009, 06:01 AM
I dont hope Obamamessiah fails personally. I do hope many of his policies fail. I hope that he fails the folks who put him in office especially the folks who paid the big special interest money.

I see they have moved the change.gov stuff over to whitehouse.gov now...

Hmmm urban policy yeah the AWB. Yes, I hope the policies fail. Probably not all of them but most.

newoldtech
01-21-2009, 07:37 AM
All right! I'm a survivor:p. I guess my claim to fame from that life is doing 50 hits of orange barrel sunshine in two weeks:eek:


It all makes sense now.

Regards,

Cheech

forged alloy
01-21-2009, 08:14 AM
I dont hope Obamamessiah fails personally. I do hope many of his policies fail. I hope that he fails the folks who put him in office especially the folks who paid the big special interest money.

I see they have moved the change.gov stuff over to whitehouse.gov now...

Hmmm urban policy yeah the AWB. Yes, I hope the policies fail. Probably not all of them but most.


I thinks the problems will lie in who analyzes the results.

We know that socialism and marxism are systems doomed to failure. Hybrid systems don't somehow make them more successful, just takes longer for them to run their course. The results are predictable.

Success or failure of a program or policy then comes down to who is analyzing and/or reporting the numbers, and which group of numbers they choose to look at.

Look at the war in Iraq. The analysis is either doom and gloom or inspiring depending on who is doing the reporting. This type of slanting will not change anytime soon.

His admirers and supporters will pay attention only to the good spin, even if everything heads downhill with ever increasing momentum. There won't be any mid-term revelations or changes in philosophic or economic beliefs.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 09:11 AM
Speaking of second chances, I heard of this guy who is a Senator, or something like that. Anyway, he gets really drunk at a party and decides to leave, driving himself home. Did I mention he did not leave alone. He leaves with this lady, a former campaign worker, I recall. Anyway, it wasn't his wife.
So he takes the wrong turn, attempts to cross a bridge with no rails and well, how do I put this. He does not make it over. In fact, the car goes over, sideways, and lands upside down in the water.
Luckily, he escapes without injury and all is forgotten. Oh wait, the lady in the car! Oh well, screw her, let her find her own way out, he decides.
The former campaign worker was not so lucky, she drowned.
Anyhow, this senator still has his job and has never served a lick of jail time.

Like you said before, scum.

What are we talking about here now the Kennedy's? We can do that if you want, I am not a fan. I read a lot and like history and politics, from what I can tell even though it was before my time Bobby might have been good. He was banging Marilyn Monroe...that has to count for something right?

I am surprised this needs explaining, but the difference here is that Rush gets on the air everyday and preaches to millions of listeners condemning them and their family's with no second chance. But behind the scenes he is doing the same thing and deserves a second chance.

He is not different than any drug addict being prescription drugs or not, he did the same thing and that is obtaining them illegally. The only difference is he has the money to have people do the dirty work for him.

Should he have a second chance? Of course he should, and so should the people he condemned.

I loved the callers that would call in and support Rushes opinion on drug addicts. But when Rush gets caught they call in with their support for Rush. :rolleyes:

I guess when your poor with a drug problem you are a drug addict, when your famous talk host you have an illness. :rolleyes:

Never heard an apology from Rush to the family's he trashed, in my book this makes him scum...to each his own I guess.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 09:41 AM
May we assume you do feel President Obama deserves or warrants more protection then previous presidents? Why, and how?

I am fascinated how information and opinion can get so twisted, lets back up a second okay?

This all started when somebody mentioned the cost of the inauguration, I pointed out that the majority of the cost is privately funded. To which somebody brought up the high cost of security that tax payers will pay, I agree.

I merely pointed out that Obama's security cost will always be high because of the added threat of assassination. End of story.

This isn't hard, security increases with threat, inadvertently cost will go up. His threat of assassination is higher because he is the first black president, how is this hard to grasp? I am not saying it is right or wrong I am just saying its a fact.

I also am not saying other presidents didn't deserve the same treatment or anything of that nature...just pointing out security cost will be greater because the threat is higher.

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 09:53 AM
And, as several posts here have pointed out, the threat of assassination is ALWAYS high for a President of the United States and the security is already the HIGHEST. Ya can't go above highest, that's like the absolute best already.

And no, the majority of the cost has not been privately funded, there are reports stating about $45 million is private, the remainder is public. With a total estimated in the neighborhood of $150 to $180 million I wouldn't call that a majority.

I spoke with several people last evening concerning your 'higher security' statements. Every single one of them agreed that the President (no matter who) already has the highest security. Is there a possibility of assassination attempts? Sure. There are for every President. Just ask Reagan.

:rolleyes:

forged alloy
01-21-2009, 10:12 AM
His threat of assassination is higher because he is the first black president, how is this hard to grasp?

I resent the implication.

Most of America has moved beyond such petty racism, despite people like Jackson, Farrakan and the likes desire to keep it alive and well for their own self-interests.

IMO there is more Black racism directed to caucasions then the reverse these days.

I do agree that blacks remain more sensative to racism because of recent history, and may sense it's presence where none was intended. I can understand this, but to take the leap and say that a black man is a target of assination simply because of his pigmantation is ridiculous.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 10:15 AM
I resent the implication.

but to take the leap and say that a black man is a target of assination simply because of his pigmantation is ridiculous.


Really?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27405681/

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 10:21 AM
And, as several posts here have pointed out, the threat of assassination is ALWAYS high for a President of the United States and the security is already the HIGHEST. Ya can't go above highest, that's like the absolute best already.

And no, the majority of the cost has not been privately funded, there are reports stating about $45 million is private, the remainder is public. With a total estimated in the neighborhood of $150 to $180 million I wouldn't call that a majority.

I spoke with several people last evening concerning your 'higher security' statements. Every single one of them agreed that the President (no matter who) already has the highest security. Is there a possibility of assassination attempts? Sure. There are for every President. Just ask Reagan.

:rolleyes:

Your incorrect on the funding, typically there is alloted 15K for security in this case it was doubled, and yes taxpayers will foot the bill. But the majority is still privately funded.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_pays_for_the_inauguration_of_US_Presidents

Not going to debate it any longer because it just seems silly to me, but Obama has more security. I am not saying it is justified, needed, or past presidents didn't deserve it...but it is what it is.

Security estimation for Obama term is at its highest.

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 10:21 AM
Those are idiots, pure and simple. It was proven, at that time, that they had no real workable plans.

So, you think, because a couple of mental patients profess to hate him because of his skin color that all do?

President Bush has proven there will be hate groups no matter which side you represent, no matter where you are from, the color of your skin or the flavor of your politics. After all, according to the Democrats all of America hated him.

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 10:26 AM
It's obvious you are hung up in the semantics.

The inauguration that is paid for by private donors is NOT the full bill. Wiki answer is your proof?

Try this:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/16/news/economy/inauguration_costs/

All the parties: The Presidential Inaugural Committee, which is responsible for the events surrounding the actual ceremony, expects that its budget will run about $45 million, but could edge slightly higher, according to Linda Douglass, spokeswoman for the group.
...
The ceremony: The Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies has a budget of $1.24 million to pay for the actual swearing-in ceremony, according to spokeswoman Carole Florman.

The ceremony happens directly out in front of the U.S. Capitol. The budget, which is $10,000 less than the budget from the 2005 inauguration, is an appropriation, which means it is federal taxpayer money that has been set aside for the event.
...
Another $3.5 million was going to cover the actual construction of the platform in front of the Capitol and the rental of the chairs, according to Stephen Ayers, acting Architect of the Capitol.

Furthermore, the U.S. Capitol Police has budgeted $1.5 million to pay for staffing events around the ceremony, according to assistant chief Dan Nichols.

Transportation, security: Once you have the parties and the ceremony, the tab has just started growing. The taxpayers really end up paying for the various law enforcement officials on duty.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 10:39 AM
Those are idiots, pure and simple. It was proven, at that time, that they had no real workable plans.

So, you think, because a couple of mental patients profess to hate him because of his skin color that all do?

President Bush has proven there will be hate groups no matter which side you represent, no matter where you are from, the color of your skin or the flavor of your politics. After all, according to the Democrats all of America hated him.

Your making assumptions again, I didn't say everybody that doesn't like Obama thinks the same way. I am just saying there is a lot more of hate toward him than you guys are giving credit to...and a lot of it is based on race.

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 10:43 AM
And, as I stated before, the perceived threat may have shifted to a different demographic (as in, Bush's threat was pretty much the entire world) but the threat of assassination is always high. No matter who the leader is.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 10:52 AM
[QUOTE=mrs reb77;2252772]It's obvious you are hung up in the semantics.

The inauguration that is paid for by private donors is NOT the full bill. Wiki answer is your proof?

Try this:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/16/news/economy/inauguration_costs/

QUOTE]

Hung up on semantics? Yeah thats me. :rolleyes: Yeah okay whatever, your numbers are still incorrect.

I actually have to go do some work now (yep, I have been screwing off :D) you all continue on without me.

pabull
01-21-2009, 10:55 AM
Your making assumptions again, I didn't say everybody that doesn't like Obama thinks the same way. I am just saying there is a lot more of hate toward him than you guys are giving credit to...and a lot of it is based on race.HR2...you really need to get the hell outta Cleveland!...lol.:p

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 11:00 AM
[QUOTE=mrs reb77;2252772]It's obvious you are hung up in the semantics.

The inauguration that is paid for by private donors is NOT the full bill. Wiki answer is your proof?

Try this:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/16/news/economy/inauguration_costs/

QUOTE]

Hung up on semantics? Yeah thats me. :rolleyes: Yeah okay whatever, your numbers are still incorrect.

I actually have to go do some work now (yep, I have been screwing off :D) you all continue on without me.


They aren't my numbers dude, they are the numbers provided to the media.

And, I would hope they're wrong but, alas, don't think they are.

Maybe you should research how much Bush's last inauguration cost INCLUDING SECURITY. Here's a hint, it was way more than what was privately funded. They always are. Taxpayers pay for whatever ain't just a party.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 11:02 AM
HR2...you really need to get the hell outta Cleveland!...lol.:p

PA!!! Whats up buddy? Out of Cleveland...yeah no s**t! :(

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 11:05 AM
[QUOTE=hvac r us 2;2253032]


They aren't my numbers dude, they are the numbers provided to the media.

And, I would hope they're wrong but, alas, don't think they are.

Maybe you should research how much Bush's last inauguration cost INCLUDING SECURITY. Here's a hint, it was way more than what was privately funded. They always are. Taxpayers pay for whatever ain't just a party.

Okay sorry, your numbers aren't wrong the media numbers are wrong. I have done plenty of research on this subject, this should come as no surprise to you but the media is not always accurate.

Right now I am still screwing off and not working :D so will have to get back to you this!

Nobody post anything for a few days until I can catch up with work!

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 11:22 AM
So, when Obama's group reports their numbers and how that is spent (like they reported what they would spend to the media) they also will be wrong? :confused:

This isn't the only media report, this isn't the only estimate and actually these estimates go along fairly consistently with history. I guess the numbers reported by the other police departments are wrong also? :confused:

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 11:24 AM
So, when Obama's group reports their numbers and how that is spent (like they reported what they would spend to the media) they also will be wrong? :confused:

This isn't the only media report, this isn't the only estimate and actually these estimates go along fairly consistently with history. I guess the numbers reported by the other police departments are wrong also? :confused:

Yes

forged alloy
01-21-2009, 11:38 AM
Yes

I keep waiting for you to leave so I can talk behind your back! :D

jrbenny
01-21-2009, 12:11 PM
Who's who? (http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/picture.php?albumid=12&pictureid=1022)


:D

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 05:37 PM
I am fascinated how information and opinion can get so twisted, lets back up a second okay?

This all started when somebody mentioned the cost of the inauguration, I pointed out that the majority of the cost is privately funded. To which somebody brought up the high cost of security that tax payers will pay, I agree.

I merely pointed out that Obama's security cost will always be high because of the added threat of assassination. End of story.

This isn't hard, security increases with threat, inadvertently cost will go up. His threat of assassination is higher because he is the first black president, how is this hard to grasp? I am not saying it is right or wrong I am just saying its a fact.

I also am not saying other presidents didn't deserve the same treatment or anything of that nature...just pointing out security cost will be greater because the threat is higher.
I have no problem grasping what you are stating, I'm just telling you that you are wrong. You cannot get more secure then any president of the United States is.

Why is it that you leftists just cannot grasp that you continuously feed off of the teat of the liberal media and spew our whatever it is they feed you? For crying out loud; the president....any and every president, has tremendous security no matter what color he or she "claims" to be.

So no, your ascertaition is not fact at all. The only reason that President Obama's inauguration process into office is requiring more security is because President Obama is exposing himself in more areas that are more difficult to secure. Just like when President Clinton took his infamous motorcade ride instead of using a chopper which would have cost much less for security.

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 05:42 PM
Uh, I already stated that Robo, more than twice! So did a couple of other posters.

Also, he will tell you he isn't a liberal.

I started a thread for the costs of Obamapalooza and what the numbers are and who reported them. I'm just waiting to hear why they are all wrong...and from what source that is since the sources I reference are the Obama group and the Office of Budget Management as well as the letter written to the gov't to be reimbursed for security. Because obviously none of us know what we're talking about.

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 05:45 PM
Really?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27405681/
Oh please tell me you are not this naive!

That piece of sensationalization fluff was already laughed off of the news within hours of it being created. For crying out loud, did you even read that article?

What is different between that sensationalized report and Black leaders proclaiming hatred toward all Whites is that those Black leaders are somehow hailed as having a right to their bigoty while a couple of stupid White kids showing off on the Internet do not.

People like you with incidents like this are the ones who continue to propogate bigoted hatred.

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 05:49 PM
Your making assumptions again, I didn't say everybody that doesn't like Obama thinks the same way. I am just saying there is a lot more of hate toward him than you guys are giving credit to...and a lot of it is based on race.
The only racist I see here is you. Racism can only flourish when it is continually fed. Maybe if people like you stop making such a big deal over our differences, our differences won't matter so much.

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 06:19 PM
After the way a lot of right wing nuts "including some congress men & women"were talking about B/O, the smart thing to do was to have more security.

So if McCain had the ss proctecting him in Iraq, like you all said they should be able to handle any threat, why did he need all this?

BAGHDAD, April 2 — A day after members of an American Congressional delegation led by Senator John McCain pointed to their brief visit to Baghdad’s central market as evidence that the new security plan for the city was working, the merchants there were incredulous about the Americans’ conclusions.

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Representative Mike Pence, an Indiana Republican, said the Shorja market was “like a normal outdoor market in Indiana.”
“What are they talking about?” Ali Jassim Faiyad, the owner of an electrical appliances shop in the market, said Monday. “The security procedures were abnormal!”

The delegation arrived at the market, which is called Shorja, on Sunday with more than 100 soldiers in armored Humvees — the equivalent of an entire company — and attack helicopters circled overhead, a senior American military official in Baghdad said. The soldiers redirected traffic from the area and restricted access to the Americans, witnesses said, and sharpshooters were posted on the roofs. The congressmen wore bulletproof vests throughout their hourlong visit.

You may not like it but some of the right wing nuts out there make al qaeda look like a bunch of kids in the church choir.

For those who gots to know where I gots my quote.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/world/middleeast/03mccain.html

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 07:28 PM
[QUOTE=RoBoTeq;2256472]I have no problem grasping what you are stating, I'm just telling you that you are wrong. You cannot get more secure then any president of the United States is.

QUOTE]


And I am telling you, you are wrong. Sure you can have more security, its as simple as hiring more agents.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 07:33 PM
I keep waiting for you to leave so I can talk behind your back! :D


LOL You can talk about me in front of me, my roid rage days are some what gone!

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 07:36 PM
Because obviously none of us know what we're talking about.

You seem to believe that because the masses on this little site agree with you some how makes you more right. :rolleyes:

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 07:39 PM
Oh please tell me you are not this naive!

That piece of sensationalization fluff was already laughed off of the news within hours of it being created. For crying out loud, did you even read that article?

What is different between that sensationalized report and Black leaders proclaiming hatred toward all Whites is that those Black leaders are somehow hailed as having a right to their bigoty while a couple of stupid White kids showing off on the Internet do not.

People like you with incidents like this are the ones who continue to propogate bigoted hatred.


Naive? LMAO Yeah sure. :rolleyes:

I don't even have to research to know Obama has more investigated death threats than others past.

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 08:00 PM
After the way a lot of right wing nuts "including some congress men & women"were talking about B/O, the smart thing to do was to have more security.

.....You may not like it but some of the right wing nuts out there make al qaeda look like a bunch of kids in the church choir.


Gee, and you whine about other posters calling you names:rolleyes:

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 08:03 PM
Robo has a point there Mkey.

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 08:04 PM
[quote=RoBoTeq;2256472]I have no problem grasping what you are stating, I'm just telling you that you are wrong. You cannot get more secure then any president of the United States is.

QUOTE]


And I am telling you, you are wrong. Sure you can have more security, its as simple as hiring more agents.

Ya know what? It is very boring trying to have a discussion with someone who just makes up crap with no show of support and then just contradicts what everyone else has to say.

Fine! Black leaders cost us more money because everyone wants to kill them....great! Now we have to pay more for Blacks to be in politics. I guess women are going to cost us even more when one of them makes president; Great! We just keep having to pay more and more for electing people who everyone wants to kill.

OH GEE; does this sound ridiculous? I sure hope so.

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 08:06 PM
LOL You can talk about me in front of me, my roid rage days are some what gone!
I don't know about that. You are still somewhat of a roid.....a real pain in the butt:D

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 08:12 PM
[quote=hvac r us 2;2257752]

Ya know what? It is very boring trying to have a discussion with someone who just makes up crap with no show of support and then just contradicts what everyone else has to say.

Fine! Black leaders cost us more money because everyone wants to kill them....great! Now we have to pay more for Blacks to be in politics. I guess women are going to cost us even more when one of them makes president; Great! We just keep having to pay more and more for electing people who everyone wants to kill.

OH GEE; does this sound ridiculous? I sure hope so.


LMAO!!!! I always liked you Robo! Whats that I smell? Yes? Yes? Could it be the smell of victory?!

:D:D


Seriously, what are we even debating here? In the end we all want the same thing right? We all want a prosperous and safe country that our kids kids will know.

I have great hope, and right now that is all we have isn't it? Time will tell.

hvac r us 2
01-21-2009, 08:12 PM
I don't know about that. You are still somewhat of a roid.....a real pain in the butt:D


Strange? I hear that a lot! :confused::eek::D

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 08:14 PM
Strange? I hear that a lot! :confused::eek::D
Same here, that's how I knew to post it:p

It could be a lot worse though; I could be a liberal pain in the butt.

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 08:25 PM
Gee, and you whine about other posters calling you names:rolleyes:

Show me a post where I whined.

Once again your full of it robo.

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 08:27 PM
Cum Bye Ah my Lord, Cum Bye Ah.....

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 08:31 PM
Robo has a point there Mkey.

You got me between a rock and a rock k

If I bring up facts you will call it griping

like some one said the rules are a little fuzzy.

glennac
01-21-2009, 08:32 PM
Wasting your time robo. Arguing with a liberal or a socialist can get you no where. The facts are on our side. Socialism has never worked and the strongest economies in the world are capitalist economies like in Singapore, even Hong Kong, New Zealand, etc.

There are no facts to back them up we have all the facts to back us up. They argue off of emotions and feelings and what they think is right for everyone in there idealist "equal" world which only leads to poverty and lower standers of living for all concerned.

You have to spoon feed them every little bit of information because unless you spell it out in the smallest detail they will dance around it and change the facts or subject.

They are the masters of spin and don't believe in a "fair" debate. Twisting words is their game and they will "never" admit to ever making a mistake because they are perfect and they no better than the "evil" conservatives.

They love the name calling game and we have to learn how to use that right back at them then of course they lose their cool because only they are allowed to call us names because we are bad and they are perfect. They have powerfull weapons at their disposal like the press is behind them 100% in broadcast news and newspapers. I think I just summed up the whole debate with liberals and socialists on this forum and anywhere esle for that matter.

glennac
01-21-2009, 08:36 PM
You got me between a rock and a rock k

If I bring up facts you will call it griping

like some one said the rules are a little fuzzy.

Where were you? Crused around the area at 5 and the "van" was no where to be seen. Must of high talied it out of there.:)

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 08:51 PM
Where were you? Crused around the area at 5 and the "van" was no where to be seen. Must of high talied it out of there.:)

I got sent to mableton instead, it was a friend of a friends job, so it hurts to sit down now, if you know what I mean.

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 09:04 PM
I got sent to mableton instead, it was a friend of a friends job, so it hurts to sit down now, if you know what I mean.
You weren't far from me.

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 09:20 PM
You weren't far from me.

Going to be working by the ted next week on some rehabs, might take my german rock to watch my truck.

glennac
01-21-2009, 09:22 PM
All right! I'm a survivor:p. I guess my claim to fame from that life is doing 50 hits of orange barrel sunshine in two weeks:eek:

That's heavy robo. I'm surprised you can still remember your name much less count. Looked it up on the inernet, made by the "Brothers of External Love" in the late 60's and early 70's. Wow!:D:)

"Orange sunshine barrels were quite the wicked trip! You only needed to take half a barrel (split with your love one of course), and you'd trip your ass off all night.

Of course it was a bit speedy, which gave it an edge and harder landing than other types of LSD."



http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_history1.shtml

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 09:35 PM
Going to be working by the ted next week on some rehabs, might take my german rock to watch my truck.
Gimme a shout next time you're on my side of town, I'll buy you lunch.

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 09:37 PM
Ya know what? It is very boring trying to have a discussion with someone who just makes up crap with no show of support and then just contradicts what everyone else has to say.

Fine! Black leaders cost us more money because everyone wants to kill them....great! Now we have to pay more for Blacks to be in politics. I guess women are going to cost us even more when one of them makes president; Great! We just keep having to pay more and more for electing people who everyone wants to kill.

OH GEE; does this sound ridiculous? I sure hope so.

Yep, we need to quit electing people that anyone may want to not be in the office.

I figure if we elect a baseball player that's played for every MLB team, never had a steroid problem, never pissed off any manager, umpire or owner, and doesn't make an obscene amount of money, we may narrow that number down to a couple of thousand and then the Secret Service can go protect the THREATS instead of the target.

Then, security costs will be lower.

Of course, the Secret Service will be protecting those people with the HIGHEST SECURITY so who knows, maybe the cost will be the same.

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 09:43 PM
Gimme a shout next time you're on my side of town, I'll buy you lunch.

I might have a furnace c/o in dallas, but its still up in the air.

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 09:44 PM
I might have a furnace c/o in dallas, but its still up in the air.
Well lemme know, I'm right next to Dallas.

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 09:47 PM
Well lemme know, I'm right next to Dallas.

yeah as soon as I hear some thing I will let you know.

glennac
01-21-2009, 10:40 PM
yeah as soon as I hear some thing I will let you know.

Yeah mike let me know also when your around Dacula and K I occasionaly work on a swiming pool dehumidfier at a hotel on Throton rd and 20 and I'll give you a holler then also.

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 10:42 PM
Glenn, you might want to reword that a bit. :eek:

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Glenn, you might want to reword that a bit. :eek:

the truth will set you free k lol:)

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 10:53 PM
Glenn! What are you doing at a hotel daily!??!

Especially when everyone knows who you are with that flag? ;)



:eek::eek::eek::eek:

ARPA
01-21-2009, 10:54 PM
...... K I go to a hotel on Throton rd and 20 ocasionally ..........



hmm.......:eek: All I seen was this....:D

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 10:56 PM
Oh geeze......

There goes my rep

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 10:57 PM
I drove by but I swear I didn't see a THING! NOPE, not a Thing! :eek:




Y'all are startin to worry me. :p

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 10:57 PM
Show me a post where I whined.

Once again your full of it robo.
Full of what mikey?

Oh, and you are still whining:rolleyes:

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 10:58 PM
Honest...I have a wife. :D

Besides, I've seen Glenn's picture. LOL

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 10:59 PM
So?


I hear Michael Jackson was married at one time too! :D

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 11:00 PM
Full of what mikey?

Oh, and you are still whining:rolleyes:

THAT


isn't worth your typing breath Robin.





Just sayin. :cool:

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 11:00 PM
Wasting your time robo. Arguing with a liberal or a socialist can get you no where. The facts are on our side. Socialism has never worked and the strongest economies in the world are capitalist economies like in Singapore, even Hong Kong, New Zealand, etc.

There are no facts to back them up we have all the facts to back us up. They argue off of emotions and feelings and what they think is right for everyone in there idealist "equal" world which only leads to poverty and lower standers of living for all concerned.

You have to spoon feed them every little bit of information because unless you spell it out in the smallest detail they will dance around it and change the facts or subject.

They are the masters of spin and don't believe in a "fair" debate. Twisting words is their game and they will "never" admit to ever making a mistake because they are perfect and they no better than the "evil" conservatives.

They love the name calling game and we have to learn how to use that right back at them then of course they lose their cool because only they are allowed to call us names because we are bad and they are perfect. They have powerfull weapons at their disposal like the press is behind them 100% in broadcast news and newspapers. I think I just summed up the whole debate with liberals and socialists on this forum and anywhere esle for that matter.
Yup, pretty concise. Trying to converse with some of these leftists is like trying to converse with my ex-wife during a certain time of each month:confused:

mrs reb77
01-21-2009, 11:01 PM
Not

even


worth


the


effort


huh?

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 11:02 PM
I got sent to mableton instead, it was a friend of a friends job, so it hurts to sit down now, if you know what I mean.
:DI kinda figured you went that way:p

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 11:03 PM
THAT


isn't worth your typing breath Robin.





Just sayin. :cool:

Robin? hmmmmmmmmmmm

k-fridge
01-21-2009, 11:03 PM
Boy did this thread go south quick.

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 11:11 PM
That's heavy robo. I'm surprised you can still remember your name much less count. Looked it up on the inernet, made by the "Brothers of External Love" in the late 60's and early 70's. Wow!:D:)

"Orange sunshine barrels were quite the wicked trip! You only needed to take half a barrel (split with your love one of course), and you'd trip your ass off all night.

Of course it was a bit speedy, which gave it an edge and harder landing than other types of LSD."



http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_history1.shtml
Yep, that's the stuff. Looked like little pencil erasers. No one in my area split orange barrel. Some of us did multiple hits at a time:confused: Hell, I never even split double green barrels or four way window pane:p

mikethe ductman
01-21-2009, 11:25 PM
Full of what mikey?

Oh, and you are still whining:rolleyes:

Whinning, no robin but I am calling you out on some thing you said.

You can back it up with some proof.

or you can punk out.
Which one do you think my $ is on?

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 11:27 PM
THAT


isn't worth your typing breath Robin.





Just sayin. :cool:
I wasn't going to say it:rolleyes:. I was trying to get mikey to say it. Mikey will say anything:p

RoBoTeq
01-21-2009, 11:33 PM
Whinning, no robin but I am calling you out on some thing you said.

You can back it up with some proof.

or you can punk out.
Which one do you think my $ is on?
Since I don't know what you are typing about, as usual, I guess I'm just going to have to punk out.

But I'm not the one spending my days in a hotel with kfridge:eek:

hvac r us 2
01-22-2009, 05:55 AM
Wasting your time robo. Arguing with a liberal or a socialist can get you no where. The facts are on our side. Socialism has never worked and the strongest economies in the world are capitalist economies like in Singapore, even Hong Kong, New Zealand, etc.

There are no facts to back them up we have all the facts to back us up. They argue off of emotions and feelings and what they think is right for everyone in there idealist "equal" world which only leads to poverty and lower standers of living for all concerned.

You have to spoon feed them every little bit of information because unless you spell it out in the smallest detail they will dance around it and change the facts or subject.

They are the masters of spin and don't believe in a "fair" debate. Twisting words is their game and they will "never" admit to ever making a mistake because they are perfect and they no better than the "evil" conservatives.

They love the name calling game and we have to learn how to use that right back at them then of course they lose their cool because only they are allowed to call us names because we are bad and they are perfect. They have powerfull weapons at their disposal like the press is behind them 100% in broadcast news and newspapers. I think I just summed up the whole debate with liberals and socialists on this forum and anywhere esle for that matter.




Thats a strange post to read from the other side, I can tell you we feel the same exact way.

glennac
01-22-2009, 06:43 AM
Glenn, you might want to reword that a bit. :eek:

You all cut me some slack. Really, I get calls to repair their 30 ton indoor Dextron swimming pool dehumidifier. My gosh. I don't go to a "hotel" for any other reason. Maybe nobody on this forum ever does commercial work I see. Now anytime you go to a hotel automatically you are accused of being funny. Give me a break. I guess one has to qualify exactly what you do when you go to a hotel.:eek:

I also service a 10 ton unit for the lobby and first floor shops. I will admit to servicing a the 10 ton roof top unit when there was a "swinger's party going on the top two floors. It was wild nobody except me and the hotel serviceman had clothes on when we got off the elevator on the top floor.

They had video cameras rolling. Didn't fool around though couldn't even if I wanted to. I guess I won't post anything on this forum about a hotel anymore unless I give a detailed explanation as to what job I did. Never again.

Nobody thinks striaght around here anymore I guess. I guess I will take a break from posting and give everyone else a break to I guess.:eek:

I just can't beleive this. Hotels don't have AC or swiming pools with dehumidifiers and HVAC guys never go there to work. Thank you very much everyone. Kiss my $$$

k-fridge
01-22-2009, 07:53 AM
It's all in fun Glenn, it's just how it was worded that didn't look quite right.

RoBoTeq
01-22-2009, 08:51 AM
Thats a strange post to read from the other side, I can tell you we feel the same exact way.
The difference is that since we are "right", you must be "wrong" :D

right/left....right/wrong....get it?:rolleyes:

RoBoTeq
01-22-2009, 08:52 AM
You all cut me some slack. ...... Kiss my $$$
I'm just taking a guess that this comment is not helping your case Glenn:confused::D

Carnak
01-22-2009, 10:37 AM
well at least it is clear now that he was merely working at the Rump Ranger Inn and was not there having a low rent rendezvous with K :)

Gib's Son
01-22-2009, 02:19 PM
On Iran's main state television news, not a frame of the inauguration was shown. It was mentioned once, but only in the context of America's economic crisis. There were no pictures of Obama on the front pages of newspapers. One magazine was closed by the authorities for doing just that after Obama's election victory. Out on the streets, thousands chanted his name. But only to yell "Death to Obama". They didn't wait for the inauguration to deliver their verdict on Obama, dragging his portrait through the streets of Tehran and then, three hours before he took the oath of office, setting fire to it alongside a picture of George Bush.

Guess we wont me making nicy nicy anytime soon.

hvac r us 2
01-22-2009, 05:04 PM
On Iran's main state television news, not a frame of the inauguration was shown. It was mentioned once, but only in the context of America's economic crisis. There were no pictures of Obama on the front pages of newspapers. One magazine was closed by the authorities for doing just that after Obama's election victory. Out on the streets, thousands chanted his name. But only to yell "Death to Obama". They didn't wait for the inauguration to deliver their verdict on Obama, dragging his portrait through the streets of Tehran and then, three hours before he took the oath of office, setting fire to it alongside a picture of George Bush.

Guess we wont me making nicy nicy anytime soon.


Not to bad for just your first day in office, I am not sure if this news story credibility as I have been told repeatedly that there is no aggressive death threats being generated toward Obama? :rolleyes:

I wonder how many other presidents had death chants toward them on their first day in office?

I'm sure this story is not true, I really have no idea and don't have time to look it up....so is it?

glennac
01-22-2009, 06:06 PM
Not to bad for just your first day in office, I am not sure if this news story credibility as I have been told repeatedly that there is no aggressive death threats being generated toward Obama? :rolleyes:

I wonder how many other presidents had death chants toward them on their first day in office?

I'm sure this story is not true, I really have no idea and don't have time to look it up....so is it?

Let it go. You need to get over it and stop crying about security for Obama. He is in probably less danger that the previous presidents because over half the socialist liberal world loves him. Bush has had more attempts than any other President. (3) I didn't see you crying about that. Gees. Give us a break here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidential_assassination_a ttempts

hvac r us 2
01-22-2009, 06:18 PM
Let it go. You need to get over it and stop crying about security for Obama. He is in probably less danger that the previous presidents because over half the socialist liberal world loves him. Bush has had more attempts than any other President. (3) I didn't see you crying about that. Gees. Give us a break here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidential_assassination_a ttempts

I haven't cried yet there Batman, of course Bush has had the most, do I need to explain that Obama has only been in office a few days?

I find it funny if I use Wikipedia as a source it's a joke...a conservative uses it and its fact, of course. LMAO :rolleyes:

glennac
01-22-2009, 06:19 PM
It's all in fun Glenn, it's just how it was worded that didn't look quite right.

Ken my post was directed toward those who don't know that hotels nowadays have air conditioning and dehumidifiers for indoor swimming pools. I wasn't upset at you. I would have reworded it for the idiots but I had already gone to bed. Thanks and I'll give you a call sometime when I am in the area but I won't mention working on a hotel out of consideration for some of the mentally challenged folks who post here. Adios

glennac
01-22-2009, 06:51 PM
I haven't cried yet there Batman, of course Bush has had the most, do I need to explain that Obama has only been in office a few days?

I find it funny if I use Wikipedia as a source it's a joke...a conservative uses it and its fact, of course. LMAO :rolleyes:

All but cried, worried to death about Obama. None of us said anything about the security for Regan even after he was shot nor have we said anything about the Bushs even with 3 attempts on George Bush.

You care to challenge any of the attempts listed on the past Presidents? :rolleyes: If not then stop complaining. That is not a conservative or a liberal source contrary to your insinuation. Thank you very much.:)

The Doctor
01-22-2009, 08:44 PM
and on this note that is of late on this very thread, let us work together to ensure the safety of our President.

I still hear people saying nowadays that something will happen because there's too many (bigots and racists).

So let me go on record as saying this:

As much as I disagree with President Obama politically about the means toward the ends, I would give my life to protect his life. And furthermore, the waste particles that infest our country who somehow in spite of any sense of reason STILL harbor racist and bigoted attitudes are a blight on mankind in general. I would stop them from doing anything to injure our President.
And if there's anyone who is further politically from President Obama than I , it would be worth noting. I'm just saying...

Meanwhile, I'm sure that this rant is a side note, but I'm sick to &^^%in' death of this racism that I still hear bandied about today. THere, now I feel better.

hvac r us 2
01-22-2009, 09:18 PM
All but cried, worried to death about Obama. None of us said anything about the security for Regan even after he was shot nor have we said anything about the Bushs even with 3 attempts on George Bush.

You care to challenge any of the attempts listed on the past Presidents? :rolleyes: If not then stop complaining. That is not a conservative or a liberal source contrary to your insinuation. Thank you very much.:)

Your sort of all over the place here, not crying, not complaining, not worrying. My position this entire thread has never changed. Obama will have the greatest threat, he will have more security and it will cost more money, end of story. You guys are all over the place and change subjects at a rampant pace to support your position.

You guys have been all over me and manipulated words to fit your needs. You tell me he wont have more threats, but yet people are chanting to kill him and I post a story of two arrested in a plot and you guys say it doesn't count because the guys were retards with no plan. :rolleyes: And he wasn't even president yet, plenty more to come, stay tuned.

We talk about the war in Iraq you guys say everybody in the world knew Saddam was a threat with WMD. I point out not true the UN even after Powell's speech said there wasn't enough evidence to declare war. So you guys turn it into W has the guts to go against everybody. Which is it?

I use Wikipeida as a reference source you guys scoff at it, but yet you use it as a point of reference and its fact.

I point out things about Rush, and instead of thinking about it you guys bring up the Kennedy's. How about focusing on Rush first, finish that then Kennedy's you know?

You bring up name calling, certainly you must be joking? Through the campaign I fought against Obama is terrorist, Obama is a Muslim, Obama was sworn in on the Koran, I should go live in Africa, etc...and I have been called an "N" lover (surprisingly, never to my face :rolleyes:) more times than I can count. You put up with that type of harassment? I think not.

Get attacked on 911 it's Clinton's fault, God forbid we get attacked on Obamas term and its Obamas fault. Even though W himself said it was inevitable to happen.

You guys are poised and ready to pounce on Obama. When 2011 comes and the wars have ended, economy is good, unemployment is low...it will be because of the policy's put in play by W. :rolleyes:

Whatever, my head is spinning with this nonsense, knock yourselves out and have a nice day, :)

mrs reb77
01-22-2009, 09:40 PM
Wiki PEDIA and Wiki ANSWER are two different websites.


Now, I don't have time to read the rest of your post cause it's that same mumbo jumbo but, I do read the difference between those two sites.

Hell, you might as well reference Yahoo Answer as Wiki Answer. Same thing.

Or, post blogs of individuals as reference.

Higher security, NO! NO! More, maybe. More possible attack threats? Who knows? But, the President of the United States already has 24/7/365 highest security protection available. So it CAN NOT GET ANY HIGHER.


I need a drink.

I'm going to have one.

A stiff one.

:eek:

hvac r us 2
01-22-2009, 09:48 PM
Wiki PEDIA and Wiki ANSWER are two different websites.


Now, I don't have time to read the rest of your post cause it's that same mumbo jumbo but, I do read the difference between those two sites.

Hell, you might as well reference Yahoo Answer as Wiki Answer. Same thing.

Or, post blogs of individuals as reference.

Higher security, NO! NO! More, maybe. More possible attack threats? Who knows? But, the President of the United States already has 24/7/365 highest security protection available. So it CAN NOT GET ANY HIGHER.


I need a drink.

I'm going to have one.

A stiff one.

:eek:


LMAO!!! Nice post! LOL

Roscoe
01-22-2009, 09:49 PM
Wiki PEDIA and Wiki ANSWER are two different websites.


Now, I don't have time to read the rest of your post cause it's that same mumbo jumbo but, I do read the difference between those two sites.

Hell, you might as well reference Yahoo Answer as Wiki Answer. Same thing.

Or, post blogs of individuals as reference.

Higher security, NO! NO! More, maybe. More possible attack threats? Who knows? But, the President of the United States already has 24/7/365 highest security protection available. So it CAN NOT GET ANY HIGHER.


I need a drink.

I'm going to have one.

A stiff one.

:eek:

jeees us reb...........:eek::eek::eek:.....TMI............. ...:D:D

mrs reb77
01-22-2009, 11:24 PM
If you're gonna drink, why go weak?


You wouldn't.....



would ya?


;)

RoBoTeq
01-22-2009, 11:31 PM
Not to bad for just your first day in office, I am not sure if this news story credibility as I have been told repeatedly that there is no aggressive death threats being generated toward Obama? :rolleyes:

I wonder how many other presidents had death chants toward them on their first day in office?

I'm sure this story is not true, I really have no idea and don't have time to look it up....so is it?
Well, howzabout a little lesson in a difference in culture in Iran? Do you know what Iranians yell when they are in a traffic jam? They yell out; "death to traffic". Yea, that's right, to an Iranian, "death to" is similar to Americans yelling "down with".

So, these Iranians do not like U.S. presidents.

Gib's Son
01-23-2009, 09:13 AM
I wonder how many other presidents had death chants toward them on their first day in office?

I'm sure this story is not true, I really have no idea and don't have time to look it up....so is it?

Here's the story, not exactly off some blog.

Every leader/ person of power has enemies that wish to kill them. You cant convince me that Obama is immune.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4306674/Barack-Obama-greeted-with-hatred-and-quiet-hope-in-Iran.html