Obamas inauguration

[jayhawker]

The amount of hype, gushing from the media and expectation that has surrounded this event is enough to make even the most brazen carnival worker blush. What happened to a dignified walk down Penn, Ave., taking the office and going to work? This thing has turned into a week long side show at the tax payers expense, $150,000,000.00 dollars worth from what I hear. "This Guy" as John Mc Cain addresed him works for the U.S. taxpaying public, he should not have his first formal function as president somewhere between "Elvis meets the Beatles"

[mallron]

Why is it his fault? I believe the extra expense is because of all the added security, road closures and such. It's not his fault that he is popular and they are expecting a large turnout. I believe the actual ceremony won't be any different than any other.

[DeltaT]

My brother was a DC cop for 28 years and he and all his buddies hated/loved the change that came every 4 years. Talk about overtime! One year, way back in the 70's he made over $100,000 as a street cop along with most of his buddies just because of the unbelievable amount of overtime. He neve even went home for that week as he just stayed at our sisters house who lived on Capitol Hill.

But let me tell you, the security is necessary.

[RoBoTeq]

Why is it his fault? I believe the extra expense is because of all the added security, road closures and such. It's not his fault that he is popular and they are expecting a large turnout. I believe the actual ceremony won't be any different than any other.
It actually is President Obama and the Democrats who are creating this innaugeration into being the most lavishly expensive innaugaration in history. Even more ironic when you consider all of the criticism the Democrats made over President Bush's innaugaration expense, which was one of the least in history.

[Fedguy89]

Folks, the excessive cost of this inauguration is also Bush's fault! :) Who will they all blame after Tuesday???

[k-fridge]

Folks, the excessive cost of this inauguration is also Bush's fault! :) Who will they all blame after Tuesday???

Oh don't worry, they'll look for reasons to blame Bush for years to come.

Welcome to ARP.

[me75006]

Think of B. Hussein Obama, the next time you see a Port-A-Potty.

[mallron]

It actually is President Obama and the Democrats who are creating this innaugeration into being the most lavishly expensive innaugaration in history. Even more ironic when you consider all of the criticism the Democrats made over President Bush's innaugaration expense, which was one of the least in history.

Is there any proof of this Robo? Not saying that you aren't correct, but I'd like to read it for myself.

[kuryakin]

Why? The American People have been blaming Bush for years! There are numerous reasons, most of which are valid.


Oh don't worry, they'll look for reasons to blame Bush for years to come.

Welcome to ARP.

[RoBoTeq]

Is there any proof of this Robo? Not saying that you aren't correct, but I'd like to read it for myself.
I heard it on a radio show. Yes, it was one of those conservative talk shows, but no matter how annoying they are about yelling at us all the time, the information is usually well founded. I will see if I can find something on it.

[Roscoe]

I'm gonna be sick...........oh wait I'll take Monday as MLK Day and Tue as Bo Day ...Wed I'll still be recovering from Tue, Thur the elation of the BO's Inaugural Address will cause me to be too emotional to work........Friday....I don't feel to good cause I got a cold from standing outside in the line waiting to use the Port-A Pot..........An.........I gotta leave early cause I got my check an I still don't feel good.........

The Federal Gobberment at work fer you..........mail delivery.......IRS will be shut down...trash will pile up...basically the whole country will stop to function....well except the ...security.....and police....anybody care to elaborate........

[RoBoTeq]

Is there any proof of this Robo? Not saying that you aren't correct, but I'd like to read it for myself.
Here's a link that doesn't seem to biased; http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2009/01/14/ap-slammed-bush-s-extravagant-inaugural-05-now-it-s-spend-baby-spend

[k-fridge]

Why? The American People have been blaming Bush for years! There are numerous reasons, most of which are valid.

Yeah like hurricanes, global warming, rampart farts.... :rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

Yeah like hurricanes, global warming, rampart farts.... :rolleyes:
President Bush was responsible for Katrina, ice melting "and" kuryakin? Wow! He certainly was a powerful man who did at least one stupid thing:rolleyes:

[maxpower]

Don't you guys know all this is necessary because he is going to fix and save us all? He is da man!

[kuryakin]

Now now, read your own rules...


Yeah like hurricanes, global warming, rampart farts.... :rolleyes:

[kuryakin]

Now now, read the rules, Ace... :)


President Bush was responsible for Katrina, ice melting "and" kuryakin? Wow! He certainly was a powerful man who did at least one stupid thing:rolleyes:

[glennac]

What's the problem there kur? They are just repeating what all those who you support are saying all the time along with the commie press. You should be happy and of course believe what they say.:)

[mikethe ductman]

What's the problem there kur? They are just repeating what all those who you support are saying all the time along with the commie press. You should be happy and of course believe what they say.:)

You might not have gotten the memo yet glenn, but k is getting ticked off at all the name calling/personal attacks, trouble makers and people who gripe.

JMO but I think kur was just trying to stop a flame war before it began.

If you are not getting the memos I can e-mail them to you, so you can keep up on the goings ons around here.

[mrs reb77]

Well, aren't you just the helpful one? ;)

I think the ARPC is capable of making any cautions that are necessary.

[RoBoTeq]

What's the problem there kur? They are just repeating what all those who you support are saying all the time along with the commie press. You should be happy and of course believe what they say.:)

Kur and Mikey seem to think they are being unfairly picked on;

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mikethe ductman (http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/member.php?u=84557)

I have heard the same crap from the same people, just watch your back side it is not an even playing field at arp.

If these guys got a tenth of the harrassment I've received on this site they would probably have nervous breakdowns:rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

You might not have gotten the memo yet glenn, but k is getting ticked off at all the name calling/personal attacks, trouble makers and people who gripe.

JMO but I think kur was just trying to stop a flame war before it began.

If you are not getting the memos I can e-mail them to you, so you can keep up on the goings ons around here.
Oh this is just too rich; some of the biggest name callers whining about name calling. What next; Elton John complaining about homosexuals?

[mikethe ductman]

Well, aren't you just the helpful one? ;)

I think the ARPC is capable of making any cautions that are necessary.

Sorry rep, it must be the liberal side of mr trying to inform the uninformed

As for making cautions, k told me that not all posts are read by the higher ups, I just figured that, that one sliped by,

[kuryakin]

Now now, namecalling is against the rules, Sport...

Yes, I realize there are MANY sour grapes here, and I realize you're unhappy that the American People went against YOUR WILL, and the spin you're producing is indeed dizzying, but, what on earth is your point here?


What's the problem there kur? They are just repeating what all those who you support are saying all the time along with the commie press. You should be happy and of course believe what they say.:)

[kuryakin]

My skin is thick. Alas, a claim the 'board' cannot make seriously! LOL


Kur and Mikey seem to think they are being unfairly picked on;

If these guys got a tenth of the harrassment I've received on this site they would probably have nervous breakdowns:rolleyes:

[mikethe ductman]

Oh this is just too rich; some of the biggest name callers whining about name calling. What next; Elton John complaining about homosexuals?

With stuff like this it just looks like your trying to start trouble robo,so come on robo lighten up and play nice.

[glennac]

...........JMO but I think kur was just trying to stop a flame war before it began..............

Well we sure don't want to have a Rodney King moment on this forum, all though I think a few could use such an experience from time to time. It might be good for the soul.:D:)

"Can't we all just get along".:)

[mikethe ductman]

WOW

I tried to help out glenn

Said I was sorry to reb

And asked robo to play fair and what do I get in return?

Once again I will try to say some thing positive, Nancy Pelosi sure looked good today on fox.

[RoBoTeq]

With stuff like this it just looks like your trying to start trouble robo,so come on robo lighten up and play nice.
Sorry mikey, it's just not in my nature to play nice with whiners:D. Maybe if you try growing a set, we could get along better;)

[RoBoTeq]

WOW

I tried to help out glenn

Said I was sorry to reb

And asked robo to play fair and what do I get in return?

Once again I will try to say some thing positive, Nancy Pelosi sure looked good today on fox.
Oh, good one mikey. Now you are just trying to get some of us to puke



http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/nancy_pelosi_speaker_house.jpg

[mikethe ductman]

Sorry mikey, it's just not in my nature to play nice with whiners:D. Maybe if you try growing a set, we could get along better;)

Hey robo my dad tought me well, he tought me if you get in to trouble to not blame other people for it, So me and my dad have never whinned about me getting into trouble, so I kind of pride myself on the pair that I have.

[RoBoTeq]

Hey robo my dad tought me well, he tought me if you get in to trouble to not blame other people for it, So me and my dad have never whinned about me getting into trouble, so I kind of pride myself on the pair that I have.
That's a good thing mikey. Maybe you should take them out when you post next time around;)

[mrs reb77]

WOW

I tried to help out glenn

Said I was sorry to reb

And asked robo to play fair and what do I get in return?

Once again I will try to say some thing positive, Nancy Pelosi sure looked good today on fox.

Mike, reb is my husband hence the mrs in front of my user ID. I'm assuming you're referring to me.

That aside, if you have an issue with a poster or a post you are urged to report it. ONLY if the post or poster is breaking the rules. We try to have an open forum--this has been relayed to you more than once.
As you've been told, if you have an issue with a post or poster breaking rules, report it--it will NOT be taken up on the forum. That only leads to petty bickering and "he said, he said, she said".

The ARPC along with ADMIN handles issuing cautions etc. if posts are reported to them or if they run across flame wars, spam or other blatant rule breaking while perusing the forum.

I hope this has been enough of an explanation for you, if not, you may take it up via e-mail.

Back to a civil discussion please folks.

[mrs reb77]

And that is more than enough pictures of the wicked witch of the west. Some of us have to sleep at night! :eek:

[mikethe ductman]

Mike, reb is my husband hence the mrs in front of my user ID. I'm assuming you're referring to me.

That aside, if you have an issue with a poster or a post you are urged to report it. ONLY if the post or poster is breaking the rules. We try to have an open forum--this has been relayed to you more than once.
As you've been told, if you have an issue with a post or poster breaking rules, report it--it will NOT be taken up on the forum. That only leads to petty bickering and "he said, he said, she said".

The ARPC along with ADMIN handles issuing cautions etc. if posts are reported to them or if they run across flame wars, spam or other blatant rule breaking while perusing the forum.

I hope this has been enough of an explanation for you, if not, you may take it up via e-mail.

Back to a civil discussion please folks.

I had no issue with any post or poster its just that glenn asked"What's the problem there kur?" and I just gave him my opinion, I have no clue where the confusion came from.
Once again I had no issue with any post or poster.

[mrs reb77]

I seemed to remember you reminding others of the rules...maybe that wasn't you?

Hmm.

Oh well, I'm sure it won't be an issue in future.

:p

[kuryakin]

Wow, I didn't realize the few intelligent posts I had would stir up such a flurry of insanity!

Folks, stick to the thread. Read the rules. Thank you.


I seemed to remember you reminding others of the rules...maybe that wasn't you?

Hmm.

Oh well, I'm sure it won't be an issue in future.

:p

[k-fridge]

You might not have gotten the memo yet glenn, but k is getting ticked off at all the name calling/personal attacks, trouble makers and people who gripe.


See above in bold. The rest of the ARPC is getting really tired of it too.

It's very simple, if you have such a problem with us here....move on.

Continue with this crap and we'll make the decision for you. All we have to do is click a button. Very simple.

This is getting old boys. It's really very simple, participate civilly in discussion and follow the rules....all will be fine. Keep up your griping....bye-bye.

kuryakin, The ARPC will handle rule enforcement....not you or Mike.

[mrs reb77]

Wow, I didn't realize the few intelligent posts I had would stir up such a flurry of insanity!

Folks, stick to the thread. Read the rules. Thank you.

Gee, thanks again for your help, I don't know what we'd do without you.
:rolleyes:


How many from this forum are actually going to the inauguration?
How many will actually be watching on tv? How many will actually be working because that's what we do? :D

[mikethe ductman]

Wow, I didn't realize the few intelligent posts I had would stir up such a flurry of insanity!

Folks, stick to the thread. Read the rules. Thank you.

Yes it looks like we need to tell scotty to beam us up.

[kuryakin]

He is, I suspect he'll get frustrated when he realizes I'm not taking the bait. Or simply outgun him. Either one of which is probably viewed as a censorable offense. :rolleyes:


With stuff like this it just looks like your trying to start trouble robo,so come on robo lighten up and play nice.

[kuryakin]

K, I am not trying to enforce the rules. I am simply ASKING that they be enforced UNIFORMLY. That's all. Peace.


See above in bold. The rest of the ARPC is getting really tired of it too.

It's very simple, if you have such a problem with us here....move on.

Continue with this crap and we'll make the decision for you. All we have to do is click a button. Very simple.

This is getting old boys. It's really very simple, participate civilly in discussion and follow the rules....all will be fine. Keep up your griping....bye-bye.

kuryakin, The ARPC will handle rule enforcement....not you or Mike.

[mrs reb77]

If you have an issue with a poster or a post breaking the rules, report it! Simple.


Now, back to topic.


I will not be watching TV as Tuesday is a work day (as usual) so count me as 1 vote for no inauguration.

Then again, I haven't seen an inauguration on TV since Reagan. Because it was part of a class in school. :p

[k-fridge]

K, I am not trying to enforce the rules. I am simply ASKING that they be enforced UNIFORMLY. That's all. Peace.
No one but you and Mike is griping and whining. Why can't you get that?

BTW...concerning the little message you sent me telling me how to do my job, Site Administration is copied on everything the ARPC discusses and they know every action we take. And every official action is preceded by a committee vote.

If you have a problem, gripe to Admin.

And good luck with that.

[mikethe ductman]

See above in bold. The rest of the ARPC is getting really tired of it too.

It's very simple, if you have such a problem with us here....move on.

Continue with this crap and we'll make the decision for you. All we have to do is click a button. Very simple.

This is getting old boys. It's really very simple, participate civilly in discussion and follow the rules....all will be fine. Keep up your griping....bye-bye.

kuryakin, The ARPC will handle rule enforcement....not you or Mike.

Nothing but xxxxxx's and ooooooo's coming from me k, I am so nice today I might give myself a hug and a kiss lol

[whec720]

Mike,

I've been going through this thread and noticed your a bit touchy. No problem. We all have those days. Life is hard, be one liberal or conservative. So this one goes out to you. Crack a cold one and rock out. This is in jest, BTW.
Cheers!:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q6VvaovZNQ

[mikethe ductman]

Mike,

I've been going through this thread and noticed your a bit touchy. No problem. We all have those days. Life is hard, be one liberal or conservative. So this one goes out to you. Crack a cold one and rock out. This is in jest, BTW.
Cheers!:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q6VvaovZNQ

Thats a great tune whec, but I don't think that the boogey man is out to get me, can you say the same?

xxxxxx's and oooooooo's to you to whec lol

[whec720]

Thats a great tune whec, but I don't think that the boogey man is out to get me, can you say the same?

xxxxxx's and oooooooo's to you to whec lol

Me neither, just happy to be breathing. Life is all about living, maybe we could agree on that.:)
Man, I miss that old G n' R. Lots of good tunes back in the day.
Watch your back, this is ARP...lol;):D

[mikethe ductman]

Me neither, just happy to be breathing. Life is all about living, maybe we could agree on that.:)
Man, I miss that old G n' R. Lots of good tunes back in the day.
Watch your back, this is ARP...lol;):D

I thought that rock sucked in the 90's, but now it seems to be kicking ass once again.

[whec720]

I thought that rock sucked in the 90's, but now it seems to be kicking ass once again.

Yeah... the Pixies came along and then the nail in the coffin....Nirvana. I like both groups, btw. However, they can not come near rocking out like Metallica, the Gunners and such. I'm glad I came of age in that period. There were great concerts, it seemed, every weekend.

[RoBoTeq]

And that is more than enough pictures of the wicked witch of the west. Some of us have to sleep at night! :eek:
Sorry. I came across that picture by accident and, well, you know; misery loves company:D

[kuryakin]

Oh, I get it, loud and clear. Nuff said? And airing private messages CLEARLY meant to be private, well, you know when you've been bad.

Now, I am REQUESTING you stick to the thread, and stop this.


No one but you and Mike is griping and whining. Why can't you get that?

BTW...concerning the little message you sent me telling me how to do my job, Site Administration is copied on everything the ARPC discusses and they know every action we take. And every official action is preceded by a committee vote.

If you have a problem, gripe to Admin.

And good luck with that.

[k-fridge]

Oh, I get it, loud and clear. Nuff said? And airing private messages CLEARLY meant to be private, well, you know when you've been bad.

Now, I am REQUESTING you stick to the thread, and stop this.
Just FYI...that was a visitor message which is publicly viewable to anyone who visits your profile. To get private message permission you'll have to apply for professional membership.

Robo, Mr. Bill, and Twilli is who you see for that. :)

[RoBoTeq]

If you have an issue with a poster or a post breaking the rules, report it! Simple.


Now, back to topic.


I will not be watching TV as Tuesday is a work day (as usual) so count me as 1 vote for no inauguration.

Then again, I haven't seen an inauguration on TV since Reagan. Because it was part of a class in school. :p
Well, some of us had to work during the Reagan inauguration as well:rolleyes:

Personally, I kinda resent taxpayer money being spent on inaugurations...period. We too often treat our leadership as if they are the manarchy this country supposedly reformed itself from. Why can't our newly elected leaders just show up for work on their first day and do their jobs like the rest of us are expected to do?

[RoBoTeq]

I thought that rock sucked in the 90's, but now it seems to be kicking ass once again.
Rock did suck in the 90s, as well as the 80s and the 21st century. The last time rock was really rocking was in the 70s:D

Oh, am I showing my age?:cool:

[RoBoTeq]

Just FYI...that was a visitor message which is publicly viewable to anyone who visits your profile. To get private message permission you'll have to apply for professional membership.

Robo, Mr. Bill, and Twilli is who you see for that. :)
:D

That's right mr. engineerman......you gotta go to that nasty Bushbot:eek:

On a serious note, the Membership Committee is 100% unbiased when it comes to our job on that committee. You really should apply for pro-status;

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[kuryakin]

So, which one of THEM are YOU calling a Bushbot?

Yes, I agree, when it comes to professional issues, they are 100% unbiased. When it comes to professional issues...

[QUOTE=RoBoTeq;2220562]:D

That's right mr. engineerman......you gotta go to that nasty Bushbot:eek:

On a serious note, the Membership Committee is 100% unbiased when it comes to our job on that committee. You really should apply for pro-status;

[kuryakin]

Sorry about that, it was INTENDED to be private.

>> Originally Posted by kuryakin View Post
Oh, I get it, loud and clear. Nuff said? And airing private messages CLEARLY meant to be private, well, you know when you've been bad.

Now, I am REQUESTING you stick to the thread, and stop this.
Just FYI...that was a visitor message which is publicly viewable to anyone who visits your profile. To get private message permission you'll have to apply for professional membership.

Robo, Mr. Bill, and Twilli is who you see for that.

[RoBoTeq]

Sorry about that, it was INTENDED to be private.

>> Originally Posted by kuryakin View Post
Oh, I get it, loud and clear. Nuff said? And airing private messages CLEARLY meant to be private, well, you know when you've been bad.

Now, I am REQUESTING you stick to the thread, and stop this.
Just FYI...that was a visitor message which is publicly viewable to anyone who visits your profile. To get private message permission you'll have to apply for professional membership.

Robo, Mr. Bill, and Twilli is who you see for that.
I gotta admit that I too am confused over the new ways to communicate off threads with individuals. I just got used to private messaging when the site adds that stupid other posting thingy:confused:

[mikethe ductman]

Rock did suck in the 90s, as well as the 80s and the 21st century. The last time rock was really rocking was in the 70s:D

Oh, am I showing my age?:cool:

I was in my teens in the 70's and I don't remember anything like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqfQ1DbRmIU

[glennac]

Rock did suck in the 90s, as well as the 80s and the 21st century. The last time rock was really rocking was in the 70s:D

Oh, am I showing my age?:cool:

It was the 50's and early 60's before the Beatles and hippies came along and ruined everything.:)

[RoBoTeq]

I was in my teens in the 70's and I don't remember anything like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqfQ1DbRmIU
I don't remember anything like that either. The 70s rock had much less noise distortion;)

I was thinking more creative rock, such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1sAkZF7SCQ&feature=related
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erJc4dzZ3IA&feature=related

most stuff after these guys was just noise added to stupid lyrics:cool:

[RoBoTeq]

It was the 50's and early 60's before the Beatles and hippies came along and ruined everything.:)
I will hunt you down for those comments Glenn:mad:

We do not diss the Beatles.....ever:cool:

[corny]

Did anyone hear on tv today ??? He said he is not taking the oath of president of the US...he is taking the oath of master of the universe....

whats up with that ???

[mrs reb77]

I was in my teens in the 70's and I don't remember anything like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqfQ1DbRmIU

I thought you said you were born in '65? That would hardly make you 'in your teens' in the 70's. More like 'you became a teen' ;) :D

I don't recall any great songs from the 70's until I listened to them later in life. Of course, I wasn't 'in my teens' then. :p

[kuryakin]

I think your avatar says it all. LOL


Did anyone hear on tv today ??? He said he is not taking the oath of president of the US...he is taking the oath of master of the universe....

whats up with that ???

[mikethe ductman]

I thought you said you were born in '65? That would hardly make you 'in your teens' in the 70's. More like 'you became a teen' ;) :D

I don't recall any great songs from the 70's until I listened to them later in life. Of course, I wasn't 'in my teens' then. :p

I was born in 64, the year Carter went in the w/h I was 13
Your only a teen for 7 years, 3 of mine were in the 70's, 4 were in the 80's

[RoBoTeq]

Did anyone hear on tv today ??? He said he is not taking the oath of president of the US...he is taking the oath of master of the universe....

whats up with that ???
So, is he going to show up in this outfit?;


http://www.toymania.com/custom/CustomCon10/Glaken/03/black%20manta.jpg

[Roscoe]

Did anyone hear on tv today ??? He said he is not taking the oath of president of the US...he is taking the oath of master of the universe....

whats up with that ???

hehehehe that was funny....:D....no wonder you picked corny for a user name....you sure come up with them...........:D:D:D:D

[kuryakin]

Did anyone hear on tv today ??? He said he is not taking the oath of president of the US...he is taking the oath of master of the universe....

whats up with that ???


Obama Refuses to Answer Questions About Size of His Package
‘A Personal Matter,’ Says President-elect

At a press conference in Washington today, President-elect Barack Obama repeatedly refused to answer questions about the size of his package, calling the subject "a personal matter."

Again and again, reporters attempted to get Mr. Obama to tell them exactly how big his package was, but the President-elect was steadfast in his refusal to quantify it.

"If I tell you the size of my package, some of you will think that it sounds too small, " he said. "And others will be uncomfortable with how big it is."

The President-elect seemed to indicate, however, that the size of his package may vary according to the circumstances.

"Depending on what is going on, my package could grow significantly larger," he said. "It all comes down to the amount of stimulus."

The President-elect apologized for his vagueness about his package, telling reporters, "I know you're having a hard time getting your arms around it."

Mr. Obama's Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, later indicated that the President-elect does plan on unveiling his package for the American people, probably at his inauguration.

"This will give the American people an opportunity to finally grasp his package," Mr. Emanuel said.

[RoBoTeq]

Obama Refuses to Answer Questions About Size of His Package
‘A Personal Matter,’ Says President-elect

At a press conference in Washington today, President-elect Barack Obama repeatedly refused to answer questions about the size of his package, calling the subject "a personal matter."

Again and again, reporters attempted to get Mr. Obama to tell them exactly how big his package was, but the President-elect was steadfast in his refusal to quantify it.

"If I tell you the size of my package, some of you will think that it sounds too small, " he said. "And others will be uncomfortable with how big it is."

The President-elect seemed to indicate, however, that the size of his package may vary according to the circumstances.

"Depending on what is going on, my package could grow significantly larger," he said. "It all comes down to the amount of stimulus."

The President-elect apologized for his vagueness about his package, telling reporters, "I know you're having a hard time getting your arms around it."

Mr. Obama's Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, later indicated that the President-elect does plan on unveiling his package for the American people, probably at his inauguration.

"This will give the American people an opportunity to finally grasp his package," Mr. Emanuel said.
Sounds about right:eek:

I have a bad feeling that American citizens are going to be feeling the impact of President Obama's package for years to come. On a related subject, K-Y Gel sales have increased a thousand fold.

[kuryakin]

Well, the Bush package will DEFINITELY hurt us for years to come. I feel like I've been screwed with my clothes on after 8 years of EXCESSIVE borrowing and spending.
No doubt Obama has his hands full rectifying 8 years of such recklessness.


Sounds about right:eek:

I have a bad feeling that American citizens are going to be feeling the impact of President Obama's package for years to come. On a related subject, K-Y Gel sales have increased a thousand fold.

[DeltaT]

I see some lady name Monica is in charge of his stimulus package. I guess this is keeping in line with "if it's good enough for the Clintons it's good enough for me."

[mrs reb77]

Well, the Bush package will DEFINITELY hurt us for years to come. I feel like I've been screwed with my clothes on after 8 years of EXCESSIVE borrowing and spending.
No doubt Obama has his hands full rectifying 8 years of such recklessness.

By borrowing yet more and spending even more? :confused:

[mrs reb77]

I was born in 64, the year Carter went in the w/h I was 13
Your only a teen for 7 years, 3 of mine were in the 70's, 4 were in the 80's

My math must be faulty, seems to me in another thread you ended up being one year older than me.

I was born in 1966. I only saw age age 13 (October thru December!) in the 70's. My teenage years were in the 80's.

[whec720]

Well, the Bush package will DEFINITELY hurt us for years to come. I feel like I've been screwed with my clothes on after 8 years of EXCESSIVE borrowing and spending.
No doubt Obama has his hands full rectifying 8 years of such recklessness.

Just wait till BHO's "New, New Deal". You ain't seen nothing yet.

BTW, what ever happened to the "stop the war" crowd? Obama wants to increase troops in Afghanistan. Looks like the war machine serves Soros well.:p

Gee, I wonder where the NY Times is, on this one??:rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

My math must be faulty, seems to me in another thread you ended up being one year older than me.

I was born in 1966. I only saw age age 13 (October thru December!) in the 70's. My teenage years were in the 80's.
My teenage years were at the end of the 60s and beginning of the 70s but I don't really remember much about this time period:confused:

[RoBoTeq]

Just wait till BHO's "New, New Deal". You ain't seen nothing yet.

BTW, what ever happened to the "stop the war" crowd? Obama wants to increase troops in Afghanistan. Looks like the war machine serves Soros well.:p

Gee, I wonder where the NY Times is, on this one??:rolleyes:
The media has already started making excuses for President Obama's failing to do anything positive for the country. It's such a shame that the media is basically dictating the atmosphere of our country.

[mrs reb77]

Oh, I finally found it. Yeah Mike, you said once you were 15 in 1980 and then 16 in 1980. That must have been my confusion.

Yeah Robo, I can imagine why too! :D

[Roscoe]

I see some lady name Monica is in charge of his stimulus package. I guess this is keeping in line with "if it's good enough for the Clintons it's good enough for me."

ahhhhhhh yep it saved OSB's ass [so he could hit us years latter] because he (Clinton) was spending more time on how to get the BJ he couldn't get from Hillerby.................;)

[jmac00]

I don't know what your all whining about.

Montel Williams is going to pay for the entire Inauguration with the "Obama Coin Set"

https://www.franklinmintobamacoin.com/flare/next?tag=ED|SM|GO|

hell he's been pushing this crap for 3 months with his cheapo Infomercial :p

It's a $50 value for $19.95, that is worth about $3.50:mad:

[RoBoTeq]

I see some lady name Monica is in charge of his stimulus package. I guess this is keeping in line with "if it's good enough for the Clintons it's good enough for me."
If this were true, it would fit right in with my prediction that President Obama will get caught having sex outside of his marriage and that his wife will kill him, cause a Black woman ain't gonna stand for that crap the way Hillary Clinton did.

[RoBoTeq]

I for one am going to kind of enjoy the day that Black Americans who voted for Obama because they think Obama is going to create some kind of Black nation realize that they have been had and start referring to President Obama as President Uncle Tom halfbreed.

[mikethe ductman]

Sounds about right:eek:

I have a bad feeling that American citizens are going to be feeling the impact of President Obama's package for years to come. On a related subject, K-Y Gel sales have increased a thousand fold.

No no robo you got it all wrong again, the reason for the increase in k-y has been linked to the soon to be out of work republicans that are hanging out in the mens room. :)

[mikethe ductman]

Just wait till BHO's "New, New Deal". You ain't seen nothing yet.

BTW, what ever happened to the "stop the war" crowd? Obama wants to increase troops in Afghanistan. Looks like the war machine serves Soros well.:p

Gee, I wonder where the NY Times is, on this one??:rolleyes:

That is where you are all messed up whec, the real war is Afghanistan, Iraq is just a side show.

[mrs reb77]

So, you're all okay with a war in Afghanistan that costs America $$ and our servicemen but nowhere else? :confused:

[mikethe ductman]

Oh, I finally found it. Yeah Mike, you said once you were 15 in 1980 and then 16 in 1980. That must have been my confusion.

Yeah Robo, I can imagine why too! :D

Like every one else , I have a birthday every year, so yes in 1980 I was both 15 and 16, 15 in the beginning and 16 at the end.

[DeltaT]

If this were true, it would fit right in with my prediction that President Obama will get caught having sex outside of his marriage and that his wife will kill him, cause a Black woman ain't gonna stand for that crap the way Hillary Clinton did.

Wow! You of all people should realize that if that happens his next life experience is not only to continue to be the President but also become mayor of DC at the same time!

His wife would take over HUD, move into a separate house in District Heights, and eventually be asked to replace Hillary in NY State.

Then, within 6 months a new Federal building would be built on the closed down part of Pennsylvania Ave in front of the White House which would house the new agency called "Department of Entitlements."

And the Old Post Office building would be turned into a place where movie stars could work to lobby Congress for their own "Save the whales, planet, cabbage, etc." mission using tax payers money. A separate recording studio would also be there for promoting OB's new hit song called "Change is a com'n & you hard working folks are gonna pay fer it."

And the Congressional Record will replaced within the Library of Congress by a user friendly Web Lounge for his millions of voters to blog pretty much about nothing.

Who needs those old records anyway. They will be used to power the Capitol Steam plant as fuel once the Steam Plant has been painted green.

Oh, yes. The wife would use her Federal Powers to mow down at least half of the small houses in District Heights that were originally built by/for the new immigration of Italian workers way back when, so she could build a mega-maga mansion with real estate tax exemptions given to her by the newly appointed, while in jail, Maryland Govenor who just happens to be her cousin.

[mikethe ductman]

So, you're all okay with a war in Afghanistan that costs America $$ and our servicemen but nowhere else? :confused:

thought you new me better than that, when have I said any thing bad about Afghanistan" besides that it is undermanned"

The other war was/is a war of ckoice.

[mrs reb77]

I don't know you other than you're a basher of President Bush no matter the subject.

I guess I assumed when you were talking about wars of choice you included Afghanistan which never 'attacked' the United States either.

Of course, Obama supporting the war against terrorists in Afghanistan would now, I guess, make all his Obamazombies support it as well.

If I recall, the conflict in Afghanistan has been going longer than the one in Iraq. Any ideas when THAT will be over?

[whec720]

That is where you are all messed up whec, the real war is Afghanistan, Iraq is just a side show.

Correction, Mike. That is where you are messed up. The war is everywhere. This is the West vs. Islamic theocracy. Take a visit to Ground Zero and open your eyes.

[RoBoTeq]

No no robo you got it all wrong again, the reason for the increase in k-y has been linked to the soon to be out of work republicans that are hanging out in the mens room. :)
All right! An increase in my sex life; whoooopieee:eek:

[mikethe ductman]

I don't know you other than you're a basher of President Bush no matter the subject.

I guess I assumed when you were talking about wars of choice you included Afghanistan which never 'attacked' the United States either.

Of course, Obama supporting the war against terrorists in Afghanistan would now, I guess, make all his Obamazombies support it as well.

If I recall, the conflict in Afghanistan has been going longer than the one in Iraq. Any ideas when THAT will be over?

Sounds like you think that we should not be fighting there

[kuryakin]

Afghanistan is at least FAR more relevant...


So, you're all okay with a war in Afghanistan that costs America $$ and our servicemen but nowhere else? :confused:

[mikethe ductman]

Correction, Mike. That is where you are messed up. The war is everywhere. This is the West vs. Islamic theocracy. Take a visit to Ground Zero and open your eyes.

I kinda agree with you whec, but if we wanted to take the wind out of their sails, going into saudi arabia would have taken away their money, as to going into Iraq that did nothing to help us win the war.

[mrs reb77]

Sounds like you think that we should not be fighting there
I guess you don't know me very well.

I have never stated that. I have heard the liverales for years complaining about ANY war we are involved with.

We, as a nation, should be eliminating terrorism/terrorists wherever possible to protect our own nation from having terrorist attacks or a war on our own soil.

Since you're a newbie here I'll fill you in on a fact that came up long ago here. My husband spent 22 years USAF and USAFR. My father was Army, is a disabled vet with 100% disability (lost both legs), both my Mom's brothers served during Vietnam--both in the Army and one went back into the Air Force when the Army sent him home after his brother was wounded, Grandfather was Army during WWII, numerous other family members including Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law have served or are currently serving. We talk about what the U.S. should or shouldn't be doing regarding what's going on in the world these days. Not one of them thinks Iraq is a 'war of choice'.
That includes friends of mine that have been there, some for more than one tour. Including friends that are currently there.

[kuryakin]

Last I checked, OBL was in Afghanistan. If Bush focused on him, instead of Iraq, we'd have the guy. For the first year or so post 9/11, we could've gone ANYWHERE to get that guy, used nearly ANY tactic to achieve that goal, and it would've been DAMN HARD for any country to deny us access, given that the rest of the world would've supported us. Alas, he utterly squandered that opportunity.

And the best you can do is a lameazzed response like this?


I don't know you other than you're a basher of President Bush no matter the subject.

I guess I assumed when you were talking about wars of choice you included Afghanistan which never 'attacked' the United States either.

Of course, Obama supporting the war against terrorists in Afghanistan would now, I guess, make all his Obamazombies support it as well.

If I recall, the conflict in Afghanistan has been going longer than the one in Iraq. Any ideas when THAT will be over?

[mrs reb77]

Afghanistan is at least FAR more relevant...

Seems like you're hung up on relevance factors and capital letters.

Is at least far more relevant. What kind of grammar is that anyway.


:rolleyes:

[mrs reb77]

Last I checked, OBL was in Afghanistan.

There you go again, I didn't know that was a FACT. Must be those unassailable sources of yours.

[k-fridge]

OBL might be in Delaware. :p

[RoBoTeq]

That is where you are all messed up whec, the real war is Afghanistan, Iraq is just a side show.
Really? Please, do tell us all about this, General mikey:rolleyes:

Ever take a look at a map of the Middle East and Western Asia? The real war is with Islamic terrorists, and that faction respects no national borders. Please, do try to educate yourself before attempting to converse with others who actually pay attention to more then bumper stickers.

[kuryakin]

You know something we don't? Let's see it!


There you go again, I didn't know that was a FACT. Must be those unassailable sources of yours.

[sline-dawg]

There you go again, I didn't know that was a FACT. Must be those unassailable sources of yours.


And where do your sources think he may be...???

[mrs reb77]

:confused:

You were the one stating OBL was somewhere specific, not me!

Try some of those unassailable sources and let the government know, inquiring minds are waiting. :cool:

[mrs reb77]

And where do your sources think he may be...???

Wow, ya'll need those literacy courses? I didn't ever say he was anywhere.

[kuryakin]

It was the intelligence network:D of your hero, Dubya. Any questions?


:confused:

You were the one stating OBL was somewhere specific, not me!

Try some of those unassailable sources and let the government know, inquiring minds are waiting. :cool:

[mrs reb77]

My hero? You are blind.

So, your 'unassailable' sources are our United States Government?






WOW! :eek:

[whec720]

I kinda agree with you whec, but if we wanted to take the wind out of their sails, going into saudi arabia would have taken away their money, as to going into Iraq that did nothing to help us win the war.

Well, I don't know about you, but I have not seen any large jets crashing into US buildings, as of late. So, I suppose, fighting the war on both fronts has served us (that would be you as well me) pretty darn well.....duncha think?

[RoBoTeq]

Sounds like you think that we should not be fighting there
We should not "have" to be fighting anywhere. If it were not for Islamic terrorists, most fighting worldwide between many nations would not be occuring.

What you anti-American, President Bush bashers just cannot get through your liberal pea brains is that we are at war worldwide with Islamic factions that respect no bounderies or national borders. Since I just cannot fathom some of you are really as stupid as you seem to be, I must conclude that you don't care what happens to the U.S. as long as the Socialist of your choice is in the leadership position. Well, you got your way, now shut up about the past and tell us what your dear leader is going to do for us as a nation.

[mikethe ductman]

I guess you don't know me very well.

I have never stated that. I have heard the liverales for years complaining about ANY war we are involved with.

We, as a nation, should be eliminating terrorism/terrorists wherever possible to protect our own nation from having terrorist attacks or a war on our own soil.

Since you're a newbie here I'll fill you in on a fact that came up long ago here. My husband spent 22 years USAF and USAFR. My father was Army, is a disabled vet with 100% disability (lost both legs), both my Mom's brothers served during Vietnam--both in the Army and one went back into the Air Force when the Army sent him home after his brother was wounded, Grandfather was Army during WWII, numerous other family members including Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law have served or are currently serving. We talk about what the U.S. should or shouldn't be doing regarding what's going on in the world these days. Not one of them thinks Iraq is a 'war of choice'.
That includes friends of mine that have been there, some for more than one tour. Including friends that are currently there.

My brother put in 20 years in the A/F and my dad was in ww2 and my great grand father lost both his legs fighting the Russians in Budapest but I try not to live through them.

[jrbenny]

Do you post and troll just to get someone to spar with you on the internet?

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/picture.php?albumid=12&pictureid=982

[mrs reb77]

Wow. How rude.

I certainly don't 'live through them'. Totally thoughtlessly ignorant Mike.


So much for background on people. :rolleyes:

[mrs reb77]

Do you post and troll just to get someone to spar with you on the internet?

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/picture.php?albumid=12&pictureid=982

I believe you may be correct jr.

And here we were thinking he was just a misguided soul in need of enlightenment.

I think there's a football game or two on.....

[RoBoTeq]

Afghanistan is at least FAR more relevant...
Why? Please, Colonel kuryakin, please tell us why Afghanistan is more relevant.

Is it because we don't need to have forces centrally located in the Middle East where we can be within stricking distance of most of the Islamic nations who have supported Islamic terrorists over the past few decades?

Maybe we don't need to have Iran covered on most borders by being in Afghanistan and Iraq simultaniously. Is that what you are suggesting comrade kuryakin? You do realize that even the Russians are having issues with Islamic terrorists, don't you Colonel kuryakin?

[whec720]

Wow, Mike. That was the harshest response (trying to be civil), I have ever read in ARP. Was that necessary? Man up and apologize.

[DeltaT]

My brother put in 20 years in the A/F and my dad was in ww2 and my great grand father lost both his legs fighting the Russians in Budapest but I try not to live through them.

Perhaps is you attempted to understand what they went through and why they did what they did you might not only honor them but start to understand why they stood for something other than themselves.

This gentlemen, in my opinion, is a typical example of the newer generation thought process - no matter what his age is - who is also behind the recent voting results.

[mikethe ductman]

We should not "have" to be fighting anywhere. If it were not for Islamic terrorists, most fighting worldwide between many nations would not be occuring.

What you anti-American, President Bush bashers just cannot get through your liberal pea brains is that we are at war worldwide with Islamic factions that respect no bounderies or national borders. Since I just cannot fathom some of you are really as stupid as you seem to be, I must conclude that you don't care what happens to the U.S. as long as the Socialist of your choice is in the leadership position. Well, you got your way, now shut up about the past and tell us what your dear leader is going to do for us as a nation.

I can tell that it ticks you off if some doesn't fall for the old line "lets kill them to protect our freedom"

Like bushs white cake and wmd's your rant has a lot of holes.

[k-fridge]

Like bushs white cake and wmd's your rant has a lot of holes.

LOL. That would be yellow cake Mikey.

[RoBoTeq]

I kinda agree with you whec, but if we wanted to take the wind out of their sails, going into saudi arabia would have taken away their money, as to going into Iraq that did nothing to help us win the war.
Oh, now let's take a look at this plan, your brightness;

Iraq; where there was every reason from the breaking of U.N. requirements for Iraq to have been invaded long before the U.S. finally took that bull by the horns. A country where the leader of that country was committing genecide on it's citizens and claiming to have weapons of mass destruction, which every country in the world and most every political leader in the U.S. believed this leader did have because he claimed to have. A country whose leader constantly supported violent actions towards Americans anywhere in the world.

vs

Saudi Arabia; a country in which the United States has many diplomatic ties with, despite the hateful attitude of the Islamic leadership. A country that aside from breeding most of the terrorists directly involved with the invasions on the U.S., which S.A. as a country had condemned, had never made any physical threat toward the U.S.

Oh yea, Saudi Arabia would have been the better choice:rolleyes:.

[jmac00]

Not to point out the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS, but did we NOT learn anything from the Russian invasion of Afghanistan???

Are we headed for another Vietnam?

I am all for going after OBL, but can we do it with a pacifist in the oval office?

I'm just ask'n, can we "win" with a JimmyCarterBillClinton Type guy as President? :confused:

[mikethe ductman]

LOL. That would be yellow cake Mikey.

as long as every one got my point thats all that matters.

[RoBoTeq]

Last I checked, OBL was in Afghanistan. If Bush focused on him, instead of Iraq, we'd have the guy. For the first year or so post 9/11, we could've gone ANYWHERE to get that guy, used nearly ANY tactic to achieve that goal, and it would've been DAMN HARD for any country to deny us access, given that the rest of the world would've supported us. Alas, he utterly squandered that opportunity.

And the best you can do is a lameazzed response like this?
Osama Bin Laden is irrelevant. Bin Laden's Taliban has been defunct for years.

What part of "we are at war with Islamic factions" eludes you? Can you not even read the news and figure out that the Taliban is no longer a viable force but rather it is other Islamic factions that have picked up where the Taliban left off? Do you not realize that Islamic factions under different cell names all over the world are killing citizens of all nations in order to take control of the world?

How can people like you be so narrow minded and singular thinking? You actually seem to fall for every little trick that the Islamic factions toss our way.

[RoBoTeq]

OBL might be in Delaware. :p
Yea, kuryakin's basement would be a step up from some Pakistani cave.

[mikethe ductman]

Oh, now let's take a look at this plan, your brightness;

Iraq; where there was every reason from the breaking of U.N. requirements for Iraq to have been invaded long before the U.S. finally took that bull by the horns. A country where the leader of that country was committing genecide on it's citizens and claiming to have weapons of mass destruction, which every country in the world and most every political leader in the U.S. believed this leader did have because he claimed to have. A country whose leader constantly supported violent actions towards Americans anywhere in the world.

vs

Saudi Arabia; a country in which the United States has many diplomatic ties with, despite the hateful attitude of the Islamic leadership. A country that aside from breeding most of the terrorists directly involved with the invasions on the U.S., which S.A. as a country had condemned, had never made any physical threat toward the U.S.

Oh yea, Saudi Arabia would have been the better choice:rolleyes:.

Yep with your way of thinking , the war should be over any day now lol

[RoBoTeq]

And where do your sources think he may be...???
Who cares any more? Eventually he will show up, and if alive, will be tried for terrorism.

[whec720]

Oh, now let's take a look at this plan, your brightness;

Iraq; where there was every reason from the breaking of U.N. requirements for Iraq to have been invaded long before the U.S. finally took that bull by the horns. A country where the leader of that country was committing genecide on it's citizens and claiming to have weapons of mass destruction, which every country in the world and most every political leader in the U.S. believed this leader did have because he claimed to have. A country whose leader constantly supported violent actions towards Americans anywhere in the world.

vs

Saudi Arabia; a country in which the United States has many diplomatic ties with, despite the hateful attitude of the Islamic leadership. A country that aside from breeding most of the terrorists directly involved with the invasions on the U.S., which S.A. as a country had condemned, had never made any physical threat toward the U.S.

Oh yea, Saudi Arabia would have been the better choice:rolleyes:.

Robo,

On'tday ivegay ethay Orosay alkingtay ointpays away.;)

[RoBoTeq]

My brother put in 20 years in the A/F and my dad was in ww2 and my great grand father lost both his legs fighting the Russians in Budapest but I try not to live through them.
Obviously you don't even have any respect for their sacrifices.

[mikethe ductman]

Wow, Mike. That was the harshest response (trying to be civil), I have ever read in ARP. Was that necessary? Man up and apologize.

You think so?

Is it because she is a girl?

[RoBoTeq]

I can tell that it ticks you off if some doesn't fall for the old line "lets kill them to protect our freedom"

Like bushs white cake and wmd's your rant has a lot of holes.
Nothing on this forum ticks me off. It is complete egotistical arrogance for you to think you or anyone else has that kind of control of me.

I also do not condone the killing of anyone for the sake of killing. I abhore killing for any reason. Killing always hurts innocent people who are left behind and I detest that. However, if killing is going to occur, I prefer the killing of my enemy rather then the killing of my countrymen. I am not certain where someone like you falls between my enemy and my countrymen, but I would also have no concern eliminating someone like you who prefers my enemy over myself.

And, it was yellow cake:rolleyes:. And, it was British intelligence supported that this deal was going down. And, tons of yellow cake was removed from Iraq during the past several years, so this was not really an issue that is the way the media has depicted it in order to support anti-Americans such as yourself in your aiding of our enemies.

[coolwhip]

Whats the problem here?

[k-fridge]

Yo Mikey

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/lolcat-funny-picture-moderator1.jpg

[whec720]

You think so?

Is it because she is a girl?

No. What I meant, you should apologize to the veterans. You drink your coffee today?

[RoBoTeq]

Not to point out the PAINFULLY OBVIOUS, but did we NOT learn anything from the Russian invasion of Afghanistan???

Are we headed for another Vietnam?

I am all for going after OBL, but can we do it with a pacifist in the oval office?

I'm just ask'n, can we "win" with a JimmyCarterBillClinton Type guy as President? :confused:
There is no winning in Afghanistan. We just don't have the military means to fight in that type of terrain. That was the downfall of the Russians in Afghanistan.

Invading forces in Afghanistan need to stick to major roads to keep their support/supply train in tact. The Afghani's have been fighting from deep in the mountains for centuries and are very good at it. Sort of like why the British could not defeat the Gurkha in Nepal/India.

[mikethe ductman]

Nothing on this forum ticks me off. It is complete egotistical arrogance for you to think you or anyone else has that kind of control of me.

I also do not condone the killing of anyone for the sake of killing. I abhore killing for any reason. Killing always hurts innocent people who are left behind and I detest that. However, if killing is going to occur, I prefer the killing of my enemy rather then the killing of my countrymen. I am not certain where someone like you falls between my enemy and my countrymen, but I would also have no concern eliminating someone like you who prefers my enemy over myself.

And, it was yellow cake:rolleyes:. And, it was British intelligence supported that this deal was going down. And, tons of yellow cake was removed from Iraq during the past several years, so this was not really an issue that is the way the media has depicted it in order to support anti-Americans such as yourself in your aiding of our enemies.

If you can tell me when Iraq ever attacked America, you might have a leg to stand on, if not then you are just blowing hot air.

proof please!!!!!1

[RoBoTeq]

as long as every one got my point thats all that matters.
Gee, accuracy now doesn't matter to the libbies who nit pick on everything to try to make a point fit their agenda. Typical.

[coolwhip]

The amount of hype, gushing from the media and expectation that has surrounded this event is enough to make even the most brazen carnival worker blush. What happened to a dignified walk down Penn, Ave., taking the office and going to work? This thing has turned into a week long side show at the tax payers expense, $150,000,000.00 dollars worth from what I hear. "This Guy" as John Mc Cain addresed him works for the U.S. taxpaying public, he should not have his first formal function as president somewhere between "Elvis meets the Beatles"

I agree...its ridiculous, he and his uglies should take the bus. I also don't like the media comparing him to Lincoln and Kennedy...wtf is up with that?? In no way is there even the slightest comparison.

[RoBoTeq]

Yep with your way of thinking , the war should be over any day now lol
Not at all. This is another point you leftists completely ignored when President Bush stated that the upcoming war on terrorism would be a long one that would take us wherever we needed to go to fight the enemy.

Only leftists have no guts for the long haul of warfare. That is what the Muslims are counting on. They have stated many times that Americans don't have the stomach to fight for long periods of time in order to defeat our enemies and it is leftists like you that these Muslims are referring to.

Well mikey, for you and your kind, just stay out of the way of those brave Americans who do have the stomach to defend your pitiful free lives.

[RoBoTeq]

Robo,

On'tday ivegay ethay Orosay alkingtay ointpays away.;)
Otchagay; orrysay:confused:

[RoBoTeq]

You think so?

Is it because she is a girl?
Wow! Compared to you? More like Wonder Woman:D

[Mr Bill]

Who's Obama? http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l286/mrbillpro/crazy.gif

[RoBoTeq]

No. What I meant, you should apologize to the veterans. You drink your coffee today?
Herbal tea:rolleyes:

[whec720]

If you can tell me when Iraq ever attacked America, you might have a leg to stand on, if not then you are just blowing hot air.

proof please!!!!!1

Perhaps this can shed some light.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iraq/956-tni.htm

[RoBoTeq]

If you can tell me when Iraq ever attacked America, you might have a leg to stand on, if not then you are just blowing hot air.

proof please!!!!!1
Who ever claimed that Iraq attacked America? Now, it is true that Saddam Hussein attempted to have an American president assasinated, but that was just a little aside of all of the other facts.

Can you justify that the U.N. never followed through with ousting Saddam Hussein when Hussein refused to abide by U.N. sanctions put on Iraq? For that reason alone Iraq was overdue for being invaded.

Since Iraq was already overdue to be invaded, had convinced the world it had weapons of mass destruction and was committing genocide on it's citizens, it just made military strategic sense for us to put U.S. troops right smack in the middle of most of the countries that are supporting the Islamic terrorism that resulted in the U.S. being attacked.

You are requesting proof of something that no one has ever claimed. Am I allowed to call another member of this forum a putz?

[jmac00]

I agree...its ridiculous, he and his uglies should take the bus. I also don't like the media comparing him to Lincoln and Kennedy...wtf is up with that?? In no way is there even the slightest comparison.

I'll say, both Lincoln and Kennedy were Pro 2nd Amendment :eek:

JOHN F. KENNEDY, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."
"By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny, which gave rise to the Second Amendment, will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."449*



*449 Guns Magazine, "Know Your Lawmakers", April 1960, Page 4

[whec720]

I'll say, both Lincoln and Kennedy were Pro 2nd Amendment :eek:

JOHN F. KENNEDY, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."
"By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' the 'security' of the nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny, which gave rise to the Second Amendment, will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important."449*



*449 Guns Magazine, "Know Your Lawmakers", April 1960, Page 4

Hmmmm....JFK sounds bitter there. Must have been clinging to religion at the time....lol.:D

[jmac00]

Hmmmm....JFK sounds bitter there. Must have been clinging to religion at the time....lol.:D

or the last remaining Cuban Cigar in the Northeast :D before HE BANNED THEM. :mad:

[whec720]

or the last remaining Cuban Cigar in the Northeast :D before HE BANNED THEM. :mad:

Yeah, JFK took some lumps from Cuba. You have to give him some credit though. He was an old Democrat. The newer breed, like Clinton and Carter, were spineless weanies. I don't expect much better from their new "Messiah".

[kuryakin]

Well, OK, you do have a point. But still... Invading Iraq after 9/11 is akin to invading Bolivia after the Pearl Harbor attack!


My hero? You are blind.

So, your 'unassailable' sources are our United States Government?






WOW! :eek:

[jmac00]

Yeah, JFK took some lumps from Cuba. You have to give him some credit though. He was an old Democrat. The newer breed, like Clinton and Carter, were spineless weanies. I don't expect much better from their new "Messiah".

ya well, he better get real tough, real quick. he's about to find out that Yapping about change and actually getting change is a lot tougher than he thinks.

Obama may have an agenda in mind, but the Democratically controlled Congress has an agenda all there own. Even if the POTUS and Congress agree, he may find the change he wants is a very tough thing to find:p

[kuryakin]

Extract your head from the sand. OBL is NOT irrelevant. With 100% certainty, he's planning to do harm to us AGAIN. Eliminating a figurehead as important as he is has multifold gains for us. Just because the Bushies think he's irrelevant does NOT make it so.

You're going for the Pee Wee Herman defense now? I know you are, but what am I? Remember what happened to HIM? Be smarter, PLEASE.


Osama Bin Laden is irrelevant. Bin Laden's Taliban has been defunct for years.

What part of "we are at war with Islamic factions" eludes you? Can you not even read the news and figure out that the Taliban is no longer a viable force but rather it is other Islamic factions that have picked up where the Taliban left off? Do you not realize that Islamic factions under different cell names all over the world are killing citizens of all nations in order to take control of the world?

How can people like you be so narrow minded and singular thinking? You actually seem to fall for every little trick that the Islamic factions toss our way.

[RoBoTeq]

Well, OK, you do have a point. But still... Invading Iraq after 9/11 is akin to invading Bolivia after the Pearl Harbor attack!
How so? Did Bolivia have Japanese military persons there?

Once again, you ignore that this is an Islamic thing, not a national thing.

[2cool4us]

How so? Did Bolivia have Japanese military persons there?

Once again, you ignore that this is an Islamic thing, not a national thing.Iraq is an OIL THINGY!!:eek:

[RoBoTeq]

Extract your head from the sand. OBL is NOT irrelevant. With 100% certainty, he's planning to do harm to us AGAIN. Eliminating a figurehead as important as he is has multifold gains for us. Just because the Bushies think he's irrelevant does NOT make it so.

You're going for the Pee Wee Herman defense now? I know you are, but what am I? Remember what happened to HIM? Be smarter, PLEASE.
You obviously just like to argue for the sake of arguing. I'm through with you.

[RoBoTeq]

Iraq is an OIL THINGY!!:eek:
OMG! Stupidity just hit this thread from another left fielder.

Unless this is sarcasm, which I don't get very well.

[Mr Bill]

I have always heard stupidity has no boundaries. :eek: :D :eek: :p

[mikethe ductman]

You obviously just like to argue for the sake of arguing. I'm through with you.

What.............what do I see .........is that a white flag?

[whec720]

I have always heard stupidity has no boundaries. :eek: :D :eek: :p

A great philosopher once stated something on this subject of stupidity. I think the words were;

"I’ve often thought of becoming a golf club."

Now be the ball, Danny.:D

[ESBlofeld]

Interesting forum. Looks like we have a lot of opinions here.
Always good to read a lively discussion. Is there ever going to be an outcome? heh heh heh >pinky to mouth<

[Gib's Son]

The carbon footprint of Barack Obama's inauguration could exceed 575 million pounds of CO2. According to the Institute for Liberty, it would take the average U.S. household nearly 60,000 years of naughty ecological behavior to produce a carbon footprint equal to the largest self-congratulatory event in the history of humankind.

[DeltaT]

The Methane Gas coming out of the DC Government (notice I did not say Federal Government) exceeds that by far on a daily basis. You'd have to live there to understand.

[mrs reb77]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480470,00.html

[mikethe ductman]

The carbon footprint of Barack Obama's inauguration could exceed 575 million pounds of CO2. According to the Institute for Liberty, it would take the average U.S. household nearly 60,000 years of naughty ecological behavior to produce a carbon footprint equal to the largest self-congratulatory event in the history of humankind.

So if there is 2 million people there and lets say there are 4 people per house hold, that would be 500,000 house holds, now divide 500,000 into 60,000 years and you get .12 years, lets round it up and say 1/8 year per house hold or 1.5 months.

So you are saying that 4 people will produce more carbon in 3 or 4 days then thay would in give or take 15 TIMES the days for the inauguration, but if they are there 1 day then that 1 day would = 45 normal days

I think your numbers are a little high.

[glennac]

So if there is 2 million people there .................

Well gee just think if we could eliminate those 2 million who will show up for the inauguration then you could raise the average IQ in our gene pool by maybe 20 points and at the same time reduce our welfare roles by 2 million to boot. What a dream. "I have a dream".:)

I guess I have said enough and I will just sit back and watch this sad affair unwind and let all you great Obama worshipers have your fun and debauchery at America's expense.:eek: It's not like you all haven't been poking us in the eye with all the hate Bush BS which you all have been gleefully posting.

[coolwhip]

Well gee just think if we could eliminate those 2 million who will show up for the inauguration then you could raise the average IQ in our gene pool by maybe 20 points and at the same time reduce our welfare roles by 2 million to boot. What a dream. "I have a dream".


Excellent and damn strait brother Glenn!:)