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navyjoe
12-23-2008, 10:50 PM
Bare with me here, I am tring to explain all as best I can. Its a long post but I need help and I am tring to give all the information I can.

I am building a house in east Tennessee near Johnson city where I am relocating to. The house is very tight and well insulated, 6" walls and 10" ceilings insulated with open cell foam, windows are Anderson 400 series, tyvec warped etc. 1st floor is ~1150 sq feet with mater beedroom, 2nd floor is 2 bedrooms with approximately 800 square feet for visiting guest, all over a full basement.

I requested a trane XL16I which was highly recomended by some installers where my existing house is. I had planned in using the XL16 for the first floor and standalone LG mini-split units for 2nd floor. the 1st floor is occupied full time by my wife and me.

The contractor and the Trane dealer convenced me to use zoning. I now have a 3 ton xl16 with 3 zones (1st floor, 2nd floor, and basement for future den) using a honeywell zone controller and trane xr402 thermostats. 1st floor has a 160 inches of return duct in the master bedroom of about 470 sq feet, and about 280 inches of return in the hall for the remaining 1500 square feet of 1st floor and 2nd floor. Basement zone is sealed off for now. There is a barmetric bypass between supply and return.

It was 11 degees a few nights ago. the house stayed at setpoint of 68.
However, the fan noise is very high on the return ducts. I finally had to use earplugs.

The supply air only runs about 3 degees warmer than room temp on stage 1 (at 11 degees outside) to 10 degees warmer on stage 2 with Aux heat strips on.

At 50 degrees outside the supply temp will run at most 5 degrees warmer than room temp on stage 1.

Finally my questions, thanks for bearing with me this far.

I have read that the XL16i is not recomended for Zoning. Is that correct?

The noise is uncomfortably high. I've always felt that AC should be felt and not heard. The reqister in the hall is the worst. If I shut the bedroom door the air volume through those registers increased greatly. I feel this is wrong. Am I correct?

The supply air with the xl16 seems too cool. My existing home has an XL14 and the supply temp is 95 to 98 degees. Isn't a 2 to 3 degee supply increase VERY low?

The air handler always ramps up to and then runs on full speed. Is that normal?

I feel the installer has screwed up. Can you give me any facts to support getting this fixed?

beenthere
12-24-2008, 01:38 AM
Sounds like he didn't set up the blower speed properly.

And may not have the bypass set up right.

Just call them up and tell them its too loud.

Ask them what CFM its set for in heating and cooling.

navyjoe
12-24-2008, 09:03 AM
It is my understanding that the inside unit that goes with the XL16i has its own controller for the fan speed and it can not be overridden.

ball a/c
12-24-2008, 09:06 AM
You have a problem.
It is a long post, but still not enough information.
The temp. split is too low.
The noise could be caused by alot of problems.
I hope the unit wasn't running during construction.
It can be fixed.

Airmechanical
12-24-2008, 09:44 AM
the 16i would have been the last 2 stage system i would have chosen for a zoned system

there is not much room for sizing errors with a zoned 16i



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dhayslett
12-24-2008, 10:14 AM
We installed a 16i with a three zone system, had nothing but trouble with it. Trane got involved and told us not to use the 16i with a zone. We pulled the equip. and installed a 19i, worked fine from that point on.

jimj
12-24-2008, 05:38 PM
Trane has a new version board for zoning and is designed for the xl16i and the 16c package unit.

What model air handler do you have? It sounds as blower speeds are not set correctly.