Market tech's

[crackertech]

How many market tech's do we have here?

1:)

[-frozen-ocean-]

My hands up in the air:p

[pherman]

here

[pherman]

I feel like this is role and Crackertech is the teacher. Bueller....Bueller....:D

[jpsmith1cm]

Present!

Can't raise my hand because I'm on a call right now...

Why do I have the feeling this is going somewhere???

[Dowadudda]

what is up with all this talk about supermarket work all of a sudden on here?

I don't get it.

[shaun66]

I be one, dont do a whole lot of service any more, start ups keep me too busy

[jwc64]

what is up with all this talk about supermarket work all of a sudden on here?

I don't get it.

Me neither. But I like it.

[frigeguy]

One more

[Phase Loss]

I am unfortunately one more to the list

[tnbasshunter]

Add me to the list.

[absoair]

I have a little experience in service, a lot on install, much piping

[calgarycool]

Yup...was out from 1 am to 8 am this morning...kinda like the DOT

[refer guy]

I am a supermarket apprentice, i started working with Markets about five months ago and i will never do anything else again. :)

I think more techs are talking about supermarket tech work is because techs are realizing that the hours and pay are in supermarket work. Thats what definatley got me in, i got tired of working the 30-40 hours a week, 40 hours if i was lucky, how can you save money when you barely have enough to pay your bills.

[jpsmith1cm]

I am a supermarket apprentice, i started working with Markets about five months ago and i will never do anything else again. :)

I think more techs are talking about supermarket tech work is because techs are realizing that the hours and pay are in supermarket work. Thats what definatley got me in, i got tired of working the 30-40 hours a week, 40 hours if i was lucky, how can you save money when you barely have enough to pay your bills.

I think it has a bit more to do with job security and stability.

Yes, the hours and pay are nice, but knowing that my job will be there tomorrow is very reassuring in these unsteady times.

[intellitech]

I am a supermarket apprentice, i started working with Markets about five months ago and i will never do anything else again. :)

I think more techs are talking about supermarket tech work is because techs are realizing that the hours and pay are in supermarket work. Thats what definatley got me in, i got tired of working the 30-40 hours a week, 40 hours if i was lucky, how can you save money when you barely have enough to pay your bills.

You hit the nail on the head....what you are stating is why I have been asking questions about supermarket refrigeration. And as jpsmith said, it certainly is about job security in this day and age.

[fl ac]

Was a tech for years, now strapped to a phone/desk

[Kelly T]

I was one for years, only cost-u-less on our island is using contractors now, wich is now being done by a company that I do not work for, payless is biggest store on island and they do in house people , only time I get called is when someone can't figure it out. Kinda nice now that I think about it.:)

[gatorfan9606]

my hand is up

[juneair]

add me to the list of the insane

[Freezeking2000]

I think I still qualify. I have 2 Markets, one with a 80 HP rack and old EIL, anohther with some onld hussman super pluss racks with even 3-4 CDA's that still work and I just forund a few new boards for them. I also service a food processing plant with a nice Hill Phoenix R-22 with 2 low temp Carlyle:mad: compressors. I could walk into any market in the world and figure it out still. I was 100% Market service for 10 years before opening my own company, my growth is currenty in residential and light commercial HVAC.

[sfjim]

here here

[270wsm]

Count me in.

[crackertech]

I think I still qualify. I have 2 Markets, one with a 80 HP rack and old EIL, anohther with some onld hussman super pluss racks with even 3-4 CDA's that still work and I just forund a few new boards for them. I also service a food processing plant with a nice Hill Phoenix R-22 with 2 low temp Carlyle:mad: compressors. I could walk into any market in the world and figure it out still. I was 100% Market service for 10 years before opening my own company, my growth is currenty in residential and light commercial HVAC.

Kool I thought I was the only one with a market that had CDA'S with IPC'S
and ICC'S:eek::eek:.

[nesc522]

I'm a market tech. Like the challenge, and love the money. Tim

[GUDTEK]

Just spreading my wings, but definitely found myself working on a supermarket rack at 3am tuesday... Like the challenge, not sure I like the sense of urgency that surrounds this type of work. Kindof the same as an ac being down in a network room. Somewhere, someone is ready to ruin your day :rolleyes:

[MikeySq]

another one here.... i think, lol

[Freezeking2000]

Kool I thought I was the only one with a market that had CDA'S with IPC'S
and ICC'S:eek::eek:.

You are not the only one.

[Freezeking2000]

Just spreading my wings, but definitely found myself working on a supermarket rack at 3am tuesday... Like the challenge, not sure I like the sense of urgency that surrounds this type of work. Kindof the same as an ac being down in a network room. Somewhere, someone is ready to ruin your day :rolleyes:


You will be burning some OT this summer. All night is normal when on call.

[jpsmith1cm]

You are not the only one.

Definately not. I have 1 store with CDAs.

[butzer23]

I'm supermarket tech as well. I came from doing chiller stuff with Johnson Controls and I would never go back. Gotta love the recession-proof job.

[chilly123]

I have been a market tech for the last 27yrs, and don't plan on giving up anytime soon.:)

[condenseddave]

Kool I thought I was the only one with a market that had CDA'S with IPC'S
and ICC'S:eek::eek:.

No, there is at least three of us with that particular affliction.

[condenseddave]

I have been a market tech for the last 27yrs, and don't plan on giving up anytime soon.:)

You have 5 years on me.

I don't plan on giving up, either.

I still love going to work in the morning, even after yesterday, LOL.

[icemeister]

Hey Dave, long time no see. :)

I've got a manual for the TRC if anyone needs info.
I think that came just before the IPC.

[crackertech]

I will not give it up anytime soon either.I love job and the ot just hate the late night call's.

[condenseddave]

Hey Dave, long time no see. :)

I've got a manual for the TRC if anyone needs info.
I think that came just before the IPC.

Yeah, really. I drop in from time to time, but time is at a premium lately.

There is a trc at one of our stores, doing nothing. Haven't seen one powered in a long time.
Our last RC48/TDC64 combo was removed last year. The TDC cabinet has an AKC255 hanging on the front now.

[crackertech]

No, there is at least three of us with that particular affliction.

I'll throw one more golden oldie in I still 1 cpc 1600 EMS panel up and running.:eek::)

[sumdumguy]

ahhhy alright then but i'm still learning

[Dowadudda]

Allright, now things are definately looking up around here. Daves Back. :cool:

Welcome Back old friend. Where ya been for the last two years?

I know, your writting the How To book on being a Metro Sexual. LOL.

Good to see ya. Stick around will ya?

[condenseddave]

Hey Dave, long time no see. :)

I've got a manual for the TRC if anyone needs info.
I think that came just before the IPC.


I just checked, and I do have that in .pdf format. It's a decent scan, too.

I think the TRC came after the IPC, but I'm not 100% on that. The TRC (Total Rack Controller) actually had a display, like an RMC, but the IPC (Intelligent Pressure Controller) was only a pressure controller.

Both had remote communication ability, and, at some point in time, the IPC was able to be put into a 485 network with RMCs, TECs, other IPCs, 1602's, etc.

We had TRC's in a store in 1991, for certain. I just found some of my old personal logs and I see where I made mention of a problem with a TRC.

Also, I have, somewhere, a copy of IPCCOM on a 5.25" floppy. (REEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAL useful item, LOL.)

Thanks for the stroll down memory lane.

[condenseddave]

Allright, now things are definately looking up around here. Daves Back. :cool:

Welcome Back old friend. Where ya been for the last two years?

I know, your writting the How To book on being a Metro Sexual. LOL.

Good to see ya. Stick around will ya?

Nice to see you, too, Dow.

[icemeister]

...I think the TRC came after the IPC, but I'm not 100% on that. The TRC (Total Rack Controller) actually had a display, like an RMC, but the IPC (Intelligent Pressure Controller) was only a pressure controller...


Yes, you are correct on that.

I remember now. :o

That was the era when I was trying out the IPC and some early EIL controls...maybe 1985-87. EIL came out with their RC-2000 just prior to CPC releasing the TRC, so the RC-2000 got several test stores at that time. I did one rack for a remodel in Long Island later on with the TRC, but they weren't really up to speed at that point.

So our corporate energy dude sold the big suits on the EIL and they installed it in all 65 stores....$$$...(Finast/Edwards). :rolleyes:

I had a good laugh recalling the early communications at 300 baud. That was so slow you could watch the data transfer at the bottom of the screen. :D

So much for my own stroll down the lane, Dave.

[crackertech]

Yes, you are correct on that.

I remember now. :o

That was the era when I was trying out the IPC and some early EIL controls...maybe 1985-87. EIL came out with their RC-2000 just prior to CPC releasing the TRC, so the RC-2000 got several test stores at that time. I did one rack for a remodel in Long Island later on with the TRC, but they weren't really up to speed at that point.

So our corporate energy dude sold the big suits on the EIL and they installed it in all 65 stores....$$$...(Finast/Edwards). :rolleyes:

I had a good laugh recalling the early communications at 300 baud. That was so slow you could watch the data transfer at the bottom of the screen. :D
So much for my own stroll down the lane, Dave.

But that was cutting edge stuff back then. And today we talk to RX racks
at 115200 baud.Sure was simpler times back than easey to troubleshoot.:)

[jaybee]

I be one too. I am also on call tonight too.

[Dowadudda]

But that was cutting edge stuff back then. And today we talk to RX racks
at 115200 baud.Sure was simpler times back than easey to troubleshoot.:)

It's kinda a funny thing you just reminded me of. I have a good friend, older, who is about to retire after 35 years in the saddle. He sort of mentored me, one of those guys you run into along your way and he brings you up a bit, and I always looked up to him and he's just a great old cat refrigeration guy.

We meet up from time to time and have a few brewskies and some laughs. A few weeks ago we were talking about the CPC and Danfoss stuff. Recently I had some update training on both. And I was in the middle of a project retrofitting an old danfoss early ak 55 system to a new e2.

And he was telling the stories about setting up low pressure controls to run a rack and how in them days commisioning was much more work on a new store.

I never really thought about it I don't guess. That would be a PIA. I have always had the luxuries of the modern age since my time in the seat. I can't even imagine. I wouldn't have the patience. :cool:

I have never had the pain to have a controller go down to have to set up a rack on manual. I must be lucky.

[Dchappa21]

I be one too. I am also on call tonight too.

Me too.. And I got Christmas.:mad:

[NedFlanders]

Me too.. And I got Christmas.:mad:

Christmas Eve for me and had last weekend too....can't wait for Christmas morning! ! !
(not giving a s@#! about the holiday...just want to throw the Nextel as far as I can);)

Market guys have NO holidays....just days you're not on call.:rolleyes:

[jpsmith1cm]

You mean you guys get days off??? :D

[condenseddave]

You mean you guys get days off??? :D

I do. I make certain of it.

My attitude has changed a lot over the years, and now I just don't want to work 80 hour weeks.

My employer isn't really thrilled, but, it's more important that I am happy than it is they are.:p

[MikeySq]

And he was telling the stories about setting up low pressure controls to run a rack and how in them days commisioning was much more work on a new store.

that's my new reality, well not the commissioning part but the operation part, had a good one today, a 2003 built Hussmann rack with a mechanical "Paragon" defrost clock!! for all circuits!


I have always had the luxuries of the modern age since my time in the seat.

I have to say the same myself but as of late I'M going "Back to the Future", on another note In one of our new(take that work lightly) stores there is an old controller(no longer in use but still there) and the date on this thing is March 1978, so i guess thje "modern age" has been around longer than I have been alive! Anyone know what was out there back in the 70's?? I'll have to get some pics!

Mike

[MikeySq]

I be one too. I am also on call tonight too.

I pick up the pager tomorrow, http://www.hvac-talk.com/vbb/images/icons/icon14.gif, (insert sarcastic smiley here)

:D

[condenseddave]

that's my new reality, well not the commissioning part but the operation part, had a good one today, a 2003 built Hussmann rack with a mechanical "Paragon" defrost clock!! for all circuits!



I have to say the same myself but as of late I'M going "Back to the Future", on another note In one of our new(take that work lightly) stores there is an old controller(no longer in use but still there) and the date on this thing is March 1978, so i guess thje "modern age" has been around longer than I have been alive! Anyone know what was out there back in the 70's?? I'll have to get some pics!

Mike

Hey, we had to install a brand new Kysor rack last year that had a Precision rack timer in it! What a brilliant plan that was, LOL. The chain insisted on it.:rolleyes:

What brand is that 1978 controller? Is it a Trend? They were the sh!t in their day.

Margaux, Altech, Andover, (Now TAC~the CURRENT owner of Com-trol) Com-trol also had controllers in the 70s, EIL was around in the late 70s, I can't recall when CPC hit the scene, but I know they were there at the dawn of the 80s, Quest, there were others, too. Funny thing, there's one I had in about 7 stores, whose name I can't remember to save my life right now. I'm pretty sure I've blocked that out of my ind for good, LOL. Seems that the Johnson Encore was out early, too, but I'm not sure if they were around in the 70s...

[condenseddave]

...so i guess thje "modern age" has been around longer than I have been alive!

Mike

LOL. I find THIS statement disturbing.:D

(Yeah, I'm a little jealous.)

[jwc64]

that's my new reality, well not the commissioning part but the operation part, had a good one today, a 2003 built Hussmann rack with a mechanical "Paragon" defrost clock!! for all circuits!



I have to say the same myself but as of late I'M going "Back to the Future", on another note In one of our new(take that work lightly) stores there is an old controller(no longer in use but still there) and the date on this thing is March 1978, so i guess thje "modern age" has been around longer than I have been alive! Anyone know what was out there back in the 70's?? I'll have to get some pics!

Mike

I started in the mid 80's but we had a lot of these small racks with belt driven V body Dunham-Bush compressors, Flo-con EPR's,and LLSV's controlled by t-stats that I know had to have been there since the early 70's at least. The new racks were coming with IPC's and CDA's but there were also these other controllers that if I remember correctly were made by Alco called an Exactor. It had this little clip you used for checking temps and stuff.

[condenseddave]

I started in the mid 80's but we had a lot of these small racks with belt driven V body Dunham-Bush compressors, Flo-con EPR's,and LLSV's controlled by t-stats that I know had to have been there since the early 70's at least. The new racks were coming with IPC's and CDA's but there were also these other controllers that if I remember correctly were made by Alco called an Exactor. It had this little clip you used for checking temps and stuff.

CV Hill made the X-actor.

[markettech]

Markettech........;)

[crackertech]

Glad to see ya MT.Merry Christmas to ya and God bless you and your family.

[markettech]

Glad to see ya MT.Merry Christmas to ya and God bless you and your family.

Same to you CT. I miss this place...........wish I could hang out more:(

[Dowadudda]

Same to you CT. I miss this place...........wish I could hang out more:(


if you weren't such a looser we might let ya. ;)

[Dowadudda]

Just got done today sorting through some old danfoss NC 25 system(s) at a store we recently started servicing. What a pile of crap that was then hey? Just totally bastardized, and so old.

I can not wait till they let me rip it out for new. Coming up this spring.

[markettech]

if you weren't such a looser we might let ya. ;)

What is a looser? Could it be similar to a loser.............:rolleyes:

[Dowadudda]

the extra ZERO was for emphasis. Booya:eek:

[crackertech]

the extra ZERO was for emphasis. Booya:eek:

Ya got to rember he's a cheesehead and don't read to well you might also want to type slower.So he keep up.:D:rolleyes:

[Dowadudda]

So what are ya sayin? I am a cheesehead too. Quit trying to get into our circle. We are one, even though apart. LOL.:p

Thanks for the well wishes too. I pmed ya back. How's it going down your way. PM me and give me your synapsis

[fitter33]

Supermarket slave here........I complain about the hours, but after seeing several of my buddies in the unemployment line recently I won't b***h.

With my promotion last year it isn't like it used to be. We have noticed a serious drop off in younger guys entering the field around here. The local college has had a 40% decrease in enrollment in the HVAC program in recent years.

[primmers]

ive been told that im one..but only by the skin on my teeth..and to this site.

[Rossco]

Just started my apprenticeship 7 months ago with a refrigeration company. I've got one grocery store install underneath my belt.

So much to learn....... :eek:

[markettech]

Just started my apprenticeship 7 months ago with a refrigeration company. I've got one grocery store install underneath my belt.

So much to learn....... :eek:

I remember my first 10 years............it was fun:rolleyes:






:D





Hang in there, there is lots to learn, but someday you will be smart like Crackertech;)

[Biblepoet]

When I started out, oh so many moons ago, my Dad introduce me to the mom and pop grocery stores. I got to enjoy the dark/musty/wet/dirty/dusty/critter infested/crap packed/etc... in the back of the store or in their basements. Later, the companies I have worked for started to introduce me to the joys of rack refrigeration and I eventually got to experience the "joys":eek::rolleyes: of Wal-Mart/Sam's Club.

While my current company has no plans to work on the same, I have no doubt I have seen the last of market equipment.:D

[WpgFrigieMan]

here

[markettech]

here

You're dang lucky you spoke up when you did...........we were about to give you a 'tardy' slip and send you to the principle's office.


:D:D


Welcome aboard FrigieMan;)

[Rossco]

When I started out, oh so many moons ago, my Dad introduce me to the mom and pop grocery stores. I got to enjoy the dark/musty/wet/dirty/dusty/critter infested/crap packed/etc... in the back of the store or in their basements. Later, the companies I have worked for started to introduce me to the joys of rack refrigeration and I eventually got to experience the "joys":eek::rolleyes: of Wal-Mart/Sam's Club.

While my current company has no plans to work on the same, I have no doubt I have seen the last of market equipment.:D

LOL!

I was on a Safeway reno and saw some good gems that fell in behind the deli/meat department cases, good thing I wasn't hung over that day :D
Or when we had to move a 20+ year old Hussmann 5 deck produce case and this "drain slug" comes sliding out on the floor from the drain trap, yum!

[Rossco]

I remember my first 10 years............it was fun:rolleyes:






:D





Hang in there, there is lots to learn, but someday you will be smart like Crackertech;)

Oh ya, it's been a blast so far! I can't believe it took me this long to find out about this trade. :)

I work for a really good company and all the journeyman I've worked under have been really good, knock on wood.

Some day I'll be the smrt one :p

[crackertech]

Oh ya, it's been a blast so far! I can't believe it took me this long to find out about this trade. :)

I work for a really good company and all the journeyman I've worked under have been really good, knock on wood.

Some day I'll be the smrt one :p

That's kool that your enjoying it not to many enter into this trade it can be tough sometimes long hr's ect or the hacked up rack the last tech left behind
for you to fix.:eek: But to me I like that kind of challenge.

[crackertech]

I remember my first 10 years............it was fun:rolleyes:






:D





Hang in there, there is lots to learn, but someday you will be smart like Crackertech;)

I cant even rember the last 10:eek: day's let alone the last 10 years.WTH must had been fun I'm still doing it.:cool::D

[WpgFrigieMan]

Yeah, i got lucky there. Still new at it I guess. Been doing Walmarts and Safeways for the last 2 yrs. Fun, Fun..

[markettech]

Yeah, i got lucky there. Still new at it I guess. Been doing Walmarts and Safeways for the last 2 yrs. Fun, Fun..

2 years.....or 32 years - it don't matter - you are now part of a small (but proud, I might add:rolleyes:) group of guys here at Htalk that do supermarket service.

Again, welcome aboard. If you need anything, just ask.



......Oh, one last thing - I thick skin is a MUST when dealing with this bunch in the refer forum;)..........:D

[sumdumguy]

I was but currently working @ a local hospital were contracted to. I'm hoping to get my hands on some cryogenics equipment:cool:

[nesc522]

Any other Hussmann tech's notice this week that there company cell show's up on caller id as Trane Corp?