If palin is running in 2012 she has my vote

[mikethe ductman]

Well she has my vote in the gop primary.

The girl goes on and on about nothing

check it out

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27081124#27897845

[k-fridge]

http://www.seraphicpress.com/archives/2008/06/obama_without_t.php

[mikethe ductman]

Wow k thats all you got?

when did that happen 2 or 3 months ago.

I know you can do better then that, one was funny one was sad, one could not say what they new the other just liked to hear the sound of her voice and the back ground was the kicker.

now go back and try again or I will be forced to put up the KC interview.

[frozensolid]

If Sarah is the great white hope of the republicans... I think will will being seeing a democratic majority for a while. :)

[ga-hvac-tech]

A lot can happen between now and 2012... Note that in 2004, folks thought Hillary was a shoe in... Things change. I think the GOP will go through a 'make-over'; it will be interesting to see what they represent in a few years.

[smokin68]

Note that in 2004, folks thought Hillary was a shoe in... .

Hillary wasn't even a shoe-in in her own state.....the ONLY thing she has going for her is the name of the last president who ran the country smoothly.... just like the present ones name is a poison pill. Too bad, the BEST of the Bush's won't get elected due to the name....Jeb.

[lanceonthejob]

Has anyone viewed the Keith Olbermann rant on youtube???

Anymore political commentary like that and the Wassila-Hillbilly will have even less credibility - if that's possible.

[hvacker]

Valley trash.

[tunnel_rat]

Has anyone viewed the Keith Olbermann rant on youtube???

Anymore political commentary like that and the Wassila-Hillbilly will have even less credibility - if that's possible.

Anyone who listens to K.O. , and takes him seriously, is too brain dead or doped up to find a voting booth without being led by hand from an Acorn member. And there aren't enough of them to make any difference.....:p

[ga-hvac-tech]

Hillary wasn't even a shoe-in in her own state.....the ONLY thing she has going for her is the name of the last president who ran the country smoothly.... just like the present ones name is a poison pill. Too bad, the BEST of the Bush's won't get elected due to the name....Jeb. Maybe in Florida Hillary was not popular, but up here folks that would vote for a Dem believed she was a shoe-in... The point of my comment was that things change. At this point, I doubt Jeb wants to run. I am in Houston, visiting my Dad for the holidays. We went up to Texas A&M and spent most of the day touring the George Bush Presidential Library (Bush Sr). It was well worth the time and money, one learns a lot when they spend the day at a presidential library. I plan to do the Clinton Library in the winter, to see what he was all about.

[RoBoTeq]

Let's face it guys, without their handlers doing their jobs properly, our politicians are pretty much all morons.

[lanceonthejob]

anyone know where this quote came from:
“In the name of Jesus! Every form of witchcraft, is what you will rebuke. In the name of Jesus.”

[Roscoe]

She's definetly easier on the eyes than all the Presidents we have ever had .......and all the First ladies..........and future First ladies.........MO's got a banging Ernie chin.............:eek:..........:D

[Roscoe]

She's definitely easier on the eyes than all the Presidents we have ever had .......and all the First ladies..........and future First ladies.........MO's got a banging Ernie chin.............:eek:..........:D

Nice yams..........

[RoBoTeq]

anyone know where this quote came from:
“In the name of Jesus! Every form of witchcraft, is what you will rebuke. In the name of Jesus.”
Some Kenyan pastor praying over Sarah Palin a few years ago. Why?

[barty]

Obama just stands there and pontificates in a "I have a dream" BS way and voters fall for it. McCain doesn't actually say anything either as he didn't really want the job anyway. The west is fooked big time and no one can possibly do anything about it

Our prime minster led us into this mess with his "No more boom and bust" and just sits there blaming America

Jeez the next few years are going to be real rough.

One good bit of news is that one of our workers came in and quit today - only Monday we were talking about how much it was going to cost us to get rid of him ;-)


Cheers

Richard

[RoBoTeq]

Muslim's have ramped up their attacks worldwide, so maybe that will be our salvation. A good ole world war would definitly help the economy of the U.S. and our allies:cool:

[mikethe ductman]

what allies

[ga-hvac-tech]

Muslim's have ramped up their attacks worldwide, so maybe that will be our salvation. A good ole world war would definitly help the economy of the U.S. and our allies:cool:

And the folks that thought BHO would end all the wars... well they would learn about life...

Having said that, I really would not like to see a WW again. Too many folks with a nuke that might not think too clearly about the costs of using it.

Better to have brush wars... but they drag on.

Folks just need to get used to the idea that freedom comes from a strong military and the willingness to use it when necessary.

Actually, IMO the better way to hold down military conflicts is to promote world trade. Why would someone want to start a war with a country they buy and sell with? Yeah, I know, the Islamic nations use our oil money to finance terrorism... I think there are ways to solve that problem... like drilling off the coast of the USA. We could still buy just enough oil from them to promote a capitalistic democracy in their country... but not enough for them to build a military we would need to fuss with.

[RoBoTeq]

what allies
When this Islamic aggression finally comes to a head, you'd best believe that France, Spain, Denmark and even Russia will be siding, reluctantly, with the U.S. to fight the common enemy that has caused so much trouble over the past few decades in these countries.

Countries such as Australia, England and Canada will with the U.S. from the start.

Our enemies will be Indonesia, Iran, possibly Saudi Arabia and most other countries where Islamic rule has taken over the government.

[k-fridge]

Folks just need to get used to the idea that freedom comes from a strong military and the willingness to use it when necessary.
Quite right John. The pacifists in this country may mean well, but they just don't get it. A lot of the countries/groups in the world are not interested in diplomacy or peace; negotiations and "friend" tactics are not going to work. The only thing they understand and/or respect is greater force and a willingness to use it when needed. The best defense we can use is to have a devastatingly effective military that can respond quickly to slap down anyone who uses force against us.

Barbaric? Maybe it is, but it's just the reality of the situation. When you're dealing with barbarians, you must be able to respond in terms they understand. They must fear us.

[RoBoTeq]

Quite right John. The pacifists in this country may mean well, but they just don't get it. A lot of the countries/groups in the world are not interested in diplomacy or peace; negotiations and "friend" tactics are not going to work. The only thing they understand and/or respect is greater force and a willingness to use it when needed. The best defense we can use is to have a devastatingly effective military that can respond quickly to slap down anyone who uses force against us.

Barbaric? Maybe it is, but it's just the reality of the situation. When you're dealing with barbarians, you must be able to respond in terms they understand. They must fear us.
A proper balance is what is tricky to do. Too little military influence breeds Communism and too much military influence breeds Fascism. We need to be the baby bear's porridge.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Quite right John. The pacifists in this country may mean well, but they just don't get it. A lot of the countries/groups in the world are not interested in diplomacy or peace; negotiations and "friend" tactics are not going to work. The only thing they understand and/or respect is greater force and a willingness to use it when needed. The best defense we can use is to have a devastatingly effective military that can respond quickly to slap down anyone who uses force against us.

Barbaric? Maybe it is, but it's just the reality of the situation. When you're dealing with barbarians, you must be able to respond in terms they understand. They must fear us.

Well said Fridge! I would add that if kids today had a less easy (read that rougher) childhood and teen years, they probably would understand this better.


A proper balance is what is tricky to do. Too little military influence breeds Communism and too much military influence breeds Fascism. We need to be the baby bear's porridge.

Well said Robin, I agree to a point, BUT;

IMO we need to err on the strong side rather than the weak side.

What we really need to do IMO is to elect folks that understand the difference between using the military for policy or for policing.

One is too aggressive, the other is to maintain order.

You see, there will always be Adolf Hitlers, Saadam Husseins, and BinLadin's. That will never change. And to use a military that is second to none by a LARGE margin to remind those folks what the boundaries of respectful relations from country to country are, is IMO a good thing. However;

To use the military to enforce one's aggressive behavior; such as unfair trade, repression of basic rights, oppression due to race/creed/religion/etc, genocide, expansionism, and a host of other things that are not in the best interest of ALL nations and peoples... well that is not the right use of the military.

This is IMO why we need to elect folks that have both military experience AND have seen the bloody side of war. Someone that can give the order to do what needs to be done (even at the cost of lives on both sides), yet has compassion for human life in general and would not waste a single life (on either side) that was not necessary to accomplish the end goals.

I just home BHO has more savvy in this area than it appears... or we might be in for a rough 4 years... Thoughts???

[RoBoTeq]

RoBo have thoughts? Hmmmm, let me answer this by answering another age old question;

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rmc0077l.jpg



I agree that it is best to err on the side of strength.

I also agree that our leaders should have some military training, which is why I believe that all Americans should have to serve at least two years in some sort of military function. This would include any immigrant coming to the U.S. to live.

[ga-hvac-tech]

RoBo have thoughts? Hmmmm, let me answer this by answering another age old question;

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rmc0077l.jpg



I agree that it is best to err on the side of strength.

I also agree that our leaders should have some military training, which is why I believe that all Americans should have to serve at least two years in some sort of military function. This would include any immigrant coming to the U.S. to live.

Good point about universal military service; what about the ladies... would you include them also?

And the cartoon: Does that mean one cannot teach an old bear new tricks? And if so, who does the bear represent?

And as far as Robo having thoughts... he expresses them daily on this forum... all one has to do is read... BUT... they are really OLD thoughts though, see a previous thread... :D

[RoBoTeq]

I would include woman for military duty. I am a true feminist inasmuch as I believe a woman of the same physical capacity as a man should have every right and oportunity to compete in the world with that man.

Let's face it, there are some women who are more physically capable then some men. For those of lesser stature, there are enough button pushing jobs to go around in the military these days.

The bear represents....a bear. It is going to take a dump.....in "the woods". Ya know; sometimes a banana is just a banana:rolleyes:

[ga-hvac-tech]

I would include woman for military duty. I am a true feminist inasmuch as I believe a woman of the same physical capacity as a man should have every right and oportunity to compete in the world with that man.

Let's face it, there are some women who are more physically capable then some men. For those of lesser stature, there are enough button pushing jobs to go around in the military these days.

The bear represents....a bear. It is going to take a dump.....in "the woods". Ya know; sometimes a banana is just a banana:rolleyes:

Respectfully, I would disagree on the ladies in the military. Yes, there definitely are ladies out there that would make better soldiers than some men... and yes there are lots of non-combat jobs... however;

I prefer a more feminine lady in my life, someone that is soft and warm natured. A trip through boot camp would tend to harden an otherwise softer lady a little too much for me. I suspect not all guys agree with me, but I think women that thinks she has to compete with men may have lost part of their female-ness. After all, it is not all about $$$ and success, is it?

[RoBoTeq]

I prefer a more feminine lady in my life, someone that is soft and warm natured. A trip through boot camp would tend to harden an otherwise softer lady a little too much for me.
Sorry, I just don't see your point of view on this issue

http://sexycreations.com/images/EM-9722_BIG.jpg

[ga-hvac-tech]

Sorry, I just don't see your point of view on this issue

http://sexycreations.com/images/EM-9722_BIG.jpg

When she got through with you Robin, there would not be a "Goodman" left... :D