View Full Version : Bush give a blanket pardon to all charged with war crimes while he was C&C.
glennac
11-23-2008, 07:15 PM
If Bush doesn't then the Democrats will start bringing charges against any and all combat GI's who caused collateral damage while in combat with the enemy during Bush's term in office. If a stray bullet hits a civilian then they are subject to being charged by the anti military Democrats in charge, count on it.
http://digg.com/world_news/George_W_Bush_could_pardon_spies_involved_in_tortu re
crackertech
11-23-2008, 09:12 PM
Let's hope that he will.
captube
11-23-2008, 09:40 PM
With all respect for our Troops, I find it hard to believe that any reasonable person would now volunteer knowing that the "present administration":o
would abandon them for doing what their trained to do. Protect America from threats.
RoBoTeq
11-24-2008, 12:20 AM
Ummm, some of our military personnel behaved badly and immorally and need to pay the piper. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. In this case, the baby would be our integrity and morals.
behappy
11-24-2008, 06:12 AM
And maybe he could pardon a couple of Border Agents!
bootlen
11-24-2008, 07:07 AM
Ummm, some of our military personnel behaved badly and immorally and need to pay the piper. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. In this case, the baby would be our integrity and morals.
Yes. But I don't think anyone here would argue that.
glennac
11-24-2008, 11:41 AM
And maybe he could pardon a couple of Border Agents!
With back pay and fire all those involved in their conviction and imprisonment.
mikethe ductman
11-24-2008, 01:43 PM
Glenn has a liberal view on what a war crime is.
I would like to know, if he pardons every one and they are brought in front of congress, can they plead the 5th. I would think not.
So maybe a pardon is a good thing, it might help finding out who gave the orders, and just maybe the right people might go to jail.
forged alloy
11-24-2008, 03:16 PM
I doubt a pre-emptive pardon could ever hold up in today's climate. Having said that, if people have over-stepped their directives, they should be punished.
smokin68
11-25-2008, 01:53 PM
Hum......this just doesn't sound right, it sounds extremely LEFT!!!!
ga-hvac-tech
11-25-2008, 02:05 PM
So show me a presidet in modern times that has not pardoned a bunch of folks at the end of their administration... There are a number of things to consider: *CYA *Close the door to the past and let the country go forward *Avoid allowing a precident to be set of rattling skeletons in closets... I think it is just a good idea to not go on a witch hunt into past administrations... And lets not forget; how many crooks did Bill Clinton pardon in his last days in the white house? If we choose to go after Bush and co, then it is only right to go after Bill Clinton and company... do you really want to do that??
smokin68
11-25-2008, 02:50 PM
If we choose to go after Bush and co, then it is only right to go after Bill Clinton and company... do you really want to do that??
Nobody mentioned Clinton,bush Sr.,Reagon,Carter ro anyone else. The post is about "W", whose not only pardoning criminals and being supported on here for doing such, but is also burrowing his people into civil servant positions in a direct attempt to sabotage Obama. Real patriotic. Keep up the great job WORST PRESIDENT EVER.....worse than CARTER!!!!!
sysint
11-25-2008, 03:21 PM
Only a complete fool would think that Bush does anything different than anyone previous.
Further, Clinton I think pardoned more people than anyone previously. How about Marc Rich? Wouldn't you like to have his 48 million in tax evaded dollars? I thought the Dems didn't cover for financiers. Ooops. Clinton had 465 pardons and OMG he even pardoned CRIMINALS. I think Rich was even involved with BIG OIL deals with IRAN and IRAQ. Nice guy. Pardon by Bill... Everyone knows BIG OIL is evil. Marc Rich was involved with BIG OIL and Clinton pardoned him.
George W Bush has 171 so far.
So, I guess Bush is actually doing less than the previous guy.
Guess I know what you are smokin' now.
x-wrenchturner
11-25-2008, 04:16 PM
Sysint,
Let me see if I have the logic straight on this one…
President “A” intentionally screws up so therefore when president “B” intentionally screws up everything is alright.
Is that about it?:rolleyes:
sysint
11-25-2008, 06:40 PM
It's official. You don't get it either. Answer to your questioning: NO.
ga-hvac-tech
11-25-2008, 07:03 PM
Nobody mentioned Clinton,bush Sr.,Reagon,Carter ro anyone else. The post is about "W", whose not only pardoning criminals and being supported on here for doing such, but is also burrowing his people into civil servant positions in a direct attempt to sabotage Obama. Real patriotic. Keep up the great job WORST PRESIDENT EVER.....worse than CARTER!!!!! Pardon my Smokey, but it would be difficult to read your comment and not notice the blatant partisan bias therein... If it is a crime and one does it, then when the other does it, it STILL is a crime... To say that one prez on the way out pardoning folks is wrong, yet ignore another prez doing the same is IMO somewhere between naive, biased, or just plain silly... And BTW: Maybe others were not talking about former presidents, however I thing the subject of pardons at the end of an administration is mute w/out mentioning ALL past presidents... it is just the way the game is played. Sorry.
x-wrenchturner
11-25-2008, 07:12 PM
It's official. You don't get it either. Answer to your questioning: NO.
You are correct, I just don't get it.
I do not get how comparing the number of pardons of different presidents
has any bearing on the justification of W’s pardons themselves.
ga-hvac-tech
11-25-2008, 07:16 PM
You are correct, I just don't get it.
I do not get how comparing the number of pardons of different presidents
has any bearing on the justification of W’s pardons themselves.
Lets see if we can shine a light on this thread: What is the difference between W doing something and another president doing EXACTLY the same thing? I think the answer to this question might help us understand the issue...
x-wrenchturner
11-25-2008, 07:16 PM
If it is a crime and one does it, then when the other does it, it STILL is a crime...
That about sums it up.
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