I want to move, turning flags upside down,

[smokin68]

sounds real American to me. I couldn't believe that Bush got re-elected in '04. I didn't turn my flag upside down or wish to move to Canada. This country is in shambles due to BUSH policy. If Obama does nothing or makes it worse, a Republican will take the office again in '12. This pouting/crying and unpatriotic demos are terrible, actually pathetic.

[chaard]

Call it pouting if you like, I call it grieving, but look at it like this. Think of the worst person you ever met, now move into his house, with him, for the next four yrs.

America is going to change and not for the better. :(

[k-fridge]

This country is in shambles due to BUSH policy.
Do you honestly believe this stuff?

Yeah, most all of us admit that Bush made some mistakes....but everything is his fault? That's pretty silly.

Surely you realize that congress is the body that makes law, spends money, etc. And surely you know that congress authorized the military actions we're involved in.

Congress is much more to blame than the president. And many of our problems, especially some of the economic mess we're in, date back to the previous administration.

One thing is for sure....the Democrats will be in charge of all three branches come January, with strong majorities in congress. They will be responsible, there will be no one else to blame. The next hurricane won't be Bush's fault, the next terrorist attack (God forbid) won't be Bush's fault, the next time I get the farts it won't be Bush's fault. It's all on your guys now, and they have made some promises that they probably can't keep. Better pray that they deliver or it may be your guys being thrown out in a few years.

[Richard Kletty]

sounds real American to me. I couldn't believe that Bush got re-elected in '04. I didn't turn my flag upside down or wish to move to Canada. This country is in shambles due to BUSH policy. If Obama does nothing or makes it worse, a Republican will take the office again in '12. This pouting/crying and unpatriotic demos are terrible, actually pathetic.

Nah... the unpatriotic part was that you didnt post this in the thread about mving or in the one that mentioned the upside down flag. Instead, you started a new thread to rub it in a bit more.

Not that I dont blame you. You might as well get the licks in now. I would have done the same thing.

BTW... Once again you neglect the fact that the Dems are in charge right now.

Predictable.

[chillerfreak]

Do you honestly believe this stuff?

Yeah, most all of us admit that Bush made some mistakes....but everything is his fault? That's pretty silly.

Surely you realize that congress is the body that makes law, spends money, etc. And surely you know that congress authorized the military actions we're involved in.

Congress is much more to blame than the president. And many of our problems, especially some of the economic mess we're in, date back to the previous administration.

One thing is for sure....the Democrats will be in charge of all three branches come January, with strong majorities in congress. They will be responsible, there will be no one else to blame. The next hurricane won't be Bush's fault, the next terrorist attack (God forbid) won't be Bush's fault, the next time I get the farts it won't be Bush's fault. It's all on your guys now, and they have made some promises that they probably can't keep. Better pray that they deliver or it may be your guys being thrown out in a few years.

Fridge...what is it with you guy's? Everytime W is criticized it's always someone elses fault?....The previous administration...congress...Hussein...
When a companies stock drops it's the CEO's fault....plain and simple....If W couldn't run the ship he shouldn't have been there in the first place.......So BO and America have a hell of a mess now...with your logic if/when he fails we can all blame it on Clinton......When I want to blame someone for my problems I look in the mirror.....

[Snapperhead]

To hell with turning your flag upside down .... run to the bank and turn IT upside down and shake out all your money and hide :eek:

[Snapperhead]

Fridge...what is it with you guy's? Everytime W is criticized it's always someone elses fault?....The previous administration...congress...Hussein...
When a companies stock drops it's the CEO's fault....plain and simple....If W couldn't run the ship he shouldn't have been there in the first place.......So BO and America have a hell of a mess now...with your logic if/when he fails we can all blame it on Clinton......When I want to blame someone for my problems I look in the mirror.....I blame the banks , and ACORN , and any corrupt officials that had anything to do with handing out loans that were wreckless .

That has alot to do with the position we are in .

That and gas prices . Which reminds me .... it amazing they are still making money and its dropped in half . Goes to show how much they were raping us for huh .....

[k-fridge]

Fridge...what is it with you guy's? Everytime W is criticized it's always someone elses fault?....The previous administration...congress...Hussein...
When a companies stock drops it's the CEO's fault....plain and simple....If W couldn't run the ship he shouldn't have been there in the first place.......So BO and America have a hell of a mess now...with your logic if/when he fails we can all blame it on Clinton......When I want to blame someone for my problems I look in the mirror.....
Just putting blame where blame is due. And it goes to various people/bodies and times. Bush is at fault for part of it. Congress, both Republican and Democrat, is to blame for parts of it. Previous administrations are to blame for parts of it (Clinton administration was who twisted arms to expand CRA).

My point was, it's asinine to continue to blame all this on Bush. While he made his share of mistakes, others did too.....including some Democrats. Until we grow up and start holding the correct people responsible, it will not get better.

[Mr Bill]

I call it grieving, but look at it like this. Think of the worst person you ever met, now move into his house, with him, for the next four yrs.

America is going to change and not for the better. :(

As a hard core Conservative I say this kind of attitude is why gas got to $4.00 a gallon and the economy is in the shape it's in, and regardless if you wanted McCain in it looks like the majority did not, look at the outcome. Personally as a Christian Tonight's election outcome dramatically underscores that the Christians chief contribution to government is not the power of the vote, but the power of prayer. To that end, and in accordance with God's word, I sincerely wish to honor and pray for Barack Obama, the President Elect of United States.

"Don't withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in the power of your hand to do it." Proverbs3:27

"I exhort therefore, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and givings of thanks, be made for all men: for kings and all who are in high places; that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; who desires all people to be saved and come to full knowledge of the truth." 1 Timothy 2:1-4.

"He who walks blamelessly walks surely, but he who perverts his ways will be found out." Proverbs 10:9.
"The integrity of the upright shall guide them, but the perverseness of the treacherous shall destroy them." Proverbs 11:3.

Personally, I say give the man a chance first isn't that the American way?
then after the first year lets come back and see if some of us still have the same attitude about our new President, I am not a gambling man but I think many might be surprised. :D

[Mr Bill]

My point was, it's asinine to continue to blame all this on Bush. While he made his share of mistakes, others did too.....including some Democrats. Until we grow up and start holding the correct people responsible, it will not get better.

I totally agree with you on this 100% and really, it's the facts.

[chillerfreak]

My point was, it's asinine to continue to blame all this on Bush. While he made his share of mistakes, others did too.....including some Democrats. Until we grow up and start holding the correct people responsible, it will not get better.

I agree.....and looking at the election results that is exactly what AMERICA has done.

[k-fridge]

I agree.....and looking at the election results that is exactly what AMERICA has done.
well, I don't think so. Like Smokin, they are blaming everything on the Republicans. The Democrats are responsible for much of the mess we face, and they just put them in power with almost no checks and balances.

[chillerfreak]

The Democrats are responsible for much of the mess we face, and they just put them in power with almost no checks and balances.

I know...scary isn't it.....it will be interesting to say the least....I'm not ready to bail on America yet....I'm up here in Oregon clinging to my guns and beer...sportin my rose colored glasses....:D

[k-fridge]

I know...scary isn't it.....it will be interesting to say the least....I'm not ready to bail on America yet....I'm up here in Oregon clinging to my guns and beer...sportin my rose colored glasses....:D
It is scary. I'm not as worried about Obama as I am Pelosi and Ried. I've already seen some of the agenda they have ready to send to Obama's desk.

[smokin68]

Nah... the unpatriotic part was that you didnt post this in the thread about mving or in the one that mentioned the upside down flag.



That's not being unpatriotic at all....:confused:



Instead, you started a new thread to rub it in a bit more.

Not rubbing anything in. There's plenty of sour grapes though....



BTW... Once again you neglect the fact that the Dems are in charge right now.

Predictable.

The Dems ARE in charge come first of the year...not now. A slightly democratic Congress with a republican president is not being in charge.Predictable blame shift for Bush's failures.




BTW, if you voted party line, fine.

[smokin68]

well, I don't think so. Like Smokin, they are blaming everything on the Republicans. The Democrats are responsible for much of the mess we face, and they just put them in power with almost no checks and balances.

The countrys problems started after the Iraq invasion, and have gotten progressively worse. That was the REPUBLICANS that started this mess, and once the Dems got slight control of congress, they've used them as a cop-out. Nice try. This is a hell of a mess the REPUBLICANS started, and will take awhile to clean up.

I agree that there should be checks and balances, but the REPUBLICANS had complete control long enough to cause this damage. Let's see if the Dems can clean it up now....

[markettech]

The countrys problems started after the Iraq invasion, and have gotten progressively worse. That was the REPUBLICANS that started this mess, and once the Dems got slight control of congress, they've used them as a cop-out. Nice try. This is a hell of a mess the REPUBLICANS started, and will take awhile to clean up.

I agree that there should be checks and balances, but the REPUBLICANS had complete control long enough to cause this damage. Let's see if the Dems can clean it up now....

The problems started with Iraq?

Hmmm...here I was under the impression that 9/11 had something to do with it. Thanks for clarifying this for me.

Mr. Bill struck a chord with me. The election is over and done and in my mind he (Obama) at least deserves a chance to show us what kind of positive impact he will have on this great country of ours.

[k-fridge]

The countrys problems started after the Iraq invasion, and have gotten progressively worse. That was the REPUBLICANS that started this mess, and once the Dems got slight control of congress, they've used them as a cop-out. Nice try. This is a hell of a mess the REPUBLICANS started, and will take awhile to clean up.

I agree that there should be checks and balances, but the REPUBLICANS had complete control long enough to cause this damage. Let's see if the Dems can clean it up now....

Ummm, no; some of the problems started decades ago. The CRA started under Jimmy Carter and was expanded by the Clinton administration.http://www.google.com/search?q=community+reinvestment+act&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Our dependence of foreign oil is a result of over 4 decades of little or bad energy policy from both parties.

Deficit spending goes back decades.

An unsuccessful war on poverty that has fueled the entitlement mentality goes back to FDR and was expanded by LBJ.

I could go on, but maybe you'll finally get the point.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Ummm, no; some of the problems started decades ago. The CRA started under Jimmy Carter and was expanded by the Clinton administration.http://www.google.com/search?q=community+reinvestment+act&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Our dependence of foreign oil is a result of over 4 decades of little or bad energy policy from both parties.

Deficit spending goes back decades.

An unsuccessful war on poverty that has fueled the entitlement mentality goes back to FDR and was expanded by LBJ.

I could go on, but maybe you'll finally get the point.

Good post Fridge!

It is easy to see a few details and think the answer is simple... BUT

The more research one does, the more they learn.

And it seems to me that a voter that is better informed will sort through the lies better than one that is not... Just my $0.02 worth there...

Now it is time for me to run some errands...

Lets see of our latest elected hero can fix the economy so all us HVAC guys will have lots of work to do... :)

[zzonko]

Ummm, no; some of the problems started decades ago. The CRA started under Jimmy Carter and was expanded by the Clinton administration.http://www.google.com/search?q=community+reinvestment+act&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Our dependence of foreign oil is a result of over 4 decades of little or bad energy policy from both parties.

Deficit spending goes back decades.

An unsuccessful war on poverty that has fueled the entitlement mentality goes back to FDR and was expanded by LBJ.

I could go on, but maybe you'll finally get the point.

Dont forget this landmine that will go off some time in the near future:

Kennedy/McCain Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007

[bootlen]

Dont forget this landmine that will go off some time in the near future:

Kennedy/McCain Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007


More like a nationwide dirty bomb.

Ya seein' this, mallron?

[dan wong]

I am neither sad nor angry.

American people has spoken they want Obama. Now the election is over I think we should give Obama our support. Give him a fair chance, the same chance we given to all our previous president.

I respect any man who has gone as far as Obama I personally believed both candidate wants to do what is best for America.

[pilotlight]

I blame the banks , and ACORN , and any corrupt officials that had anything to do with handing out loans that were wreckless .

That has alot to do with the position we are in .

That and gas prices . Which reminds me .... it amazing they are still making money and its dropped in half . Goes to show how much they were raping us for huh .....

Right on

[hvacmd2002]

sounds real American to me. I couldn't believe that Bush got re-elected in '04. I didn't turn my flag upside down or wish to move to Canada. This country is in shambles due to BUSH policy. This pouting/crying and unpatriotic demos are terrible, actually pathetic.

Hey listen. I served my country. I earned the right to do whatever I damn well please with the flag. I've seen your side wear flag patches on the back side of their jeans, make clothing out of flags, and burn flags in the street. Do I agree with any of that? - no. Should it be outlawed? Absolutely not. Preserve free speech. It's what makes our country great

Obama is not my president. I'm not even convinced he's my country's president.

You guys can badmouth Bush and the USA for 8 years. You can put the idiotic bumper stickers on your cars and come in here and whine about this and that.

Let a Republican do that...and it's a different story. All of a sudden...you guys want to unite the country. To he!! with that.

When I flew my flag upside down in protest...I couldn't help but feel that I live in a great country. In other places, it'd get you killed.

But I earned that right. This country is in big trouble if Obama is able to get 1/2 of what he wants.

And let history judge Bush. You guys act like invading Iraq was this huge mistake. How do you know? How does anybody know? Do you know what the US govt knew about Saddam? Do you know what's going on in Syria, and Lebanon, Pakistan & Afghanistan? You think you know....but you don't.

[smokin68]

Hey listen. I served my country. I earned the right to do whatever I damn well please with the flag. I've seen your side wear flag patches on the back side of their jeans, make clothing out of flags, and burn flags in the street.
First off, thank you for serving...now, "My Side?" What is that?
Just because you served, you can do what you want with the flag? Bull$hit.


You guys can badmouth Bush and the USA for 8 years. You can put the idiotic bumper stickers on your cars and come in here and whine about this and that.

If you want to defend that idiot, it's your choice. If Bush was a democrat, you'd tell an entirely different story about the same events.




When I flew my flag upside down in protest...I couldn't help but feel that I live in a great country. In other places, it'd get you killed.

True.



But I earned that right. This country is in big trouble if Obama is able to get 1/2 of what he wants.

I disagree.


And let history judge Bush. You guys act like invading Iraq was this huge mistake. How do you know? How does anybody know? Do you know what the US govt knew about Saddam? Do you know what's going on in Syria, and Lebanon, Pakistan & Afghanistan? You think you know....but you don't.

You can speculate about WMD and such all you want....if you invade a country for said reason you better emerge with proof or end up with egg on your face, which Bush did. He didn't listen to the UN or anyone. Of course the public isn't told the truth.....the truth is probably along the lines of getting rid of Saddam's sons, who were far more dangerous than Saddam. Since you have all the intelligence info, enlighten us to the real knowhow. Truth is, noone knows what Bush was thinking except Bush.

[hvacmd2002]

You can speculate about WMD and such all you want....if you invade a country for said reason you better emerge with proof or end up with egg on your face, which Bush did. He didn't listen to the UN or anyone. Of course the public isn't told the truth.....the truth is probably along the lines of getting rid of Saddam's sons, who were far more dangerous than Saddam. Since you have all the intelligence info, enlighten us to the real knowhow. Truth is, noone knows what Bush was thinking except Bush.

um...where did I say that I knew? I said "How does anybody know?"

Saddam defied the UN throughout Boy Clinton's 2 terms. Finally someone had the balls to take him out. Maybe Bush knew something the rest of us didn't. Maybe he didn't.

The libs were PO'd at Reagan during the Cold War also. Why the arms race? Stop building nuclear weapons!

Look where it got us.

The end of the Soviet Union.

The fall of the Berlin Wall.


If the libs had their way, we'd still be fighting the USSR and we'd still have a divided Germany.

Brought to you by a war-mongering Republican president.

We miss you Ron.

[whec720]

I'm conservative and would never, ever think of flying our flag upside down. And why would I move to Canada? I'm American and ain't going any where. I love how libs always got to pigeon hole people who disagree with them and constantly put them down.....won't work.....WE ARE STRONGER THAN YOU!:D

[glennac]

....You can speculate about WMD and such all you want....if you invade a country for said reason you better emerge with proof or end up with egg on your face, which Bush did. He didn't listen to the UN or anyone. Of course the public isn't told the truth.....the truth is probably along the lines of getting rid of Saddam's sons, who were far more dangerous than Saddam. Since you have all the intelligence info, enlighten us to the real knowhow. Truth is, noone knows what Bush was thinking except Bush.

Who gives a rip about that. I was always opposed to us messing around in the ME I would have let Iraq have Kuwait and I felt that way at that time. What we are concerned about now is a communist is in power and you dems are rejoicing how sick. You should have the decency to stop gloating on this forum. Go celebrate in the hood where you all will be welcome until nightfall that is. That's about how I feel about it.

[hvacmd2002]

If you want to defend that idiot, it's your choice. If Bush was a democrat, you'd tell an entirely different story about the same events.



I'm not defending him. Maybe he screwed up. Maybe he didn't. Where would we be if Saddam was still in power? Who knows?

What would have happened if the Democrats hadn't involved us in Viet Nam? Would Communism have spread? Who knows? The Democrats chose to "contain"...and though the war was highly unpopular, I have a hard time saying it was a mistake. Because we don't know where the other path would have taken us.

You're walking through the forest and come to a fork in the trail. You go left...fall and break your leg. Maybe if you'd have gone right...you would have emerged unharmed, or maybe you would have fallen to your death. All you know is that you have a broken leg, and wish you had taken the other path. But you'll never know.

What if Clinton had taken out Osama when he had the chance? Would we be in the mess we're in now if he had? Who knows. Maybe...maybe not.

[hvacmd2002]

Who gives a rip about that. I was always opposed to us messing around in the ME I would have let Iraq have Kuwait and I felt that way at that time.

We and our allies screwed up when we re-drew the map of the ME after WWII.

[chaard]

I'm conservative and would never, ever think of flying our flag upside down. And why would I move to Canada? I'm American and ain't going any where. I love how libs always got to pigeon hole people who disagree with them and constantly put them down.....won't work.....WE ARE STRONGER THAN YOU!:D

Flying the flag upside down is not the same or as bad as burning the flag. It's just a distress signal. And Bush is still POTUS for now. Our Country is in distress with the economy and jobs being lost left and right.

As far as moving to another country...I'm not going anywhere. It's just a way of mentally escaping from what is going on in this country.

[whec720]

Flying the flag upside down is not the same or as bad as burning the flag. It's just a distress signal. And Bush is still POTUS for now. Our Country is in distress with the economy and jobs being lost left and right.

As far as moving to another country...I'm not going anywhere. It's just a way of mentally escaping from what is going on in this country.

Why are you in distress? Socialism is a proven loser. Looks like Americans need a hard lesson in economics again.

[glennac]

My flag has been flying since 911. I have moved it indoors now. I will only take it out on the Nov11, Memorial Day & July 4th. We no longer are a proud nation any more considering who got elected to the WH. I hope to be able to display it again on a daily basis but I am not sure that will ever happen again. We have committed suicide as a nation with this election. What a shame.:(

The glorious Stars and Bars were retired over 143 years ago and soon our great Stars and Stripes may go down too. I hope not but it doesn't look good.:eek:

[ga-hvac-tech]

Why are you in distress? Socialism is a proven loser. Looks like Americans need a hard lesson in economics again.

I think you re right Whec. Seems we have a new crop of young voters that do not understand... yet. But they will as soon as they taste the fruits of their choices.

Just wish I did not have to go along for the ride...

[Andy Schoen]

When a companies stock drops it's the CEO's fault....plain and simple
This should be our new definition of myopia...


The countrys problems started after the Iraq invasion

Perhaps this is better... :D

[RoBoTeq]

I find the depiction of an American flag flying upside down to be an insult and a disgrace to my country. If you no longer respect the U.S., go somewhere else or work toward making the U.S better.

The U.S. has been in trouble long before this election. While I don't have much faith that President Obama will be much good for my country, I am not going to disgrace my country over what most of my fellow citizens voted to have as our leader.

Anyone depicting an American flag flying upside down just to protest that things are not going their way, is an enemy of the United States and not worthy of recognition as an American.

[hvacmd2002]

I find the depiction of an American flag flying upside down to be an insult and a disgrace to my country. If you no longer respect the U.S., go somewhere else or work toward making the U.S better.


Anyone depicting an American flag flying upside down just to protest that things are not going their way, is an enemy of the United States and not worthy of recognition as an American.

Hey Robo...you've got it wrong.
My family has served. You won't find a more patriotic family than mine. An uncle at Normandy. 2 more in WWII. An uncle who was a medic in Viet Nam who still is fighting the war. Father, sister, myself, have all served. Many more uncles & cousins all served. My family has a long history of giving to this country.

But....I survived Clinton. I was in. He brought the military down.

Obama is different. I don't care what color he is. He's unqualified, and he was shoved down our throats by the media and the nut cases on the far left. They could have voted for an American hero and a true patriot to lead this country. They voted for an empty suit. And I'm angry.

Never in a million years did I ever think I'd flip the flag upside down. I've marched under it, saluted it, & gotten teary eyed when the national anthem was played and it was flapping in the breeze. But now it looks different. It's not the same country to me. It's a country looking for a handout. We're not strong and proud anymore. It's all about what Uncle Sam can do for me.

Want free health care....vote Obama

Want a check in the mail...vote Obama

Someday I hope to fly my flag again. For now...it's been put away. The country she represents is a mess. On one level, I'm proud that we elected a black man. But not this black man. Give me someone who's fought for his country. Give me someone who I know can lead. I'd vote for him.

[Carnak]

Bush Senior was the last guy who actually served who was elected. In every election since it was the guy who never serevd who got elected.

[chaard]

You know Robo, I'm am trying not to let my emotions get the better of me and hope that Obama does a fairly decent job.

But I've got to to say I am in no way Un-American. I had no intentions of leaving the Country and as far as the upside Flag is concerned it is still the American Flag. Whether it be upside down, rightside up or sideways. I didn't change it from 50 stars to 57 stars.:rolleyes: It's still my flag.

I resent the the comment that I am not American. I am pissed off because I am American. I think Obama could ruin this Country. The guy wants to undermine the Constitution. To me that's a problem. We've let a fox into the hen house.

I am full blooded American, unlike Obama, and until O proves he's a real American then I will turn the flag rightside up. I was trying to get over the fact O is POTUS, but you got me worked up again Robo. Thanks.:p:D

[jrbenny]

I don't care how long you served. Disrespect for the flag of the United States of America is not patriotic. Your military service does not give you a right to disrespect my flag!



§176. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. Give it a read. Learn to respect my flag!

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html#176

[markettech]

You know Robo, I'm am trying not to let my emotions get the better of me and hope that Obama does a fairly decent job.

But I've got to to say I am in no way Un-American. I had no intentions of leaving the Country and as far as the upside Flag is concerned it is still the American Flag. Whether it be upside down, rightside up or sideways. I didn't change it from 50 stars to 57 stars.:rolleyes: It's still my flag.

I resent the the comment that I am not American. I am pissed off because I am American. I think Obama could ruin this Country. The guy wants to undermine the Constitution. To me that's a problem. We've let a fox into the hen house.

I am full blooded American, unlike Obama, and until O proves he's a real American then I will turn the flag rightside up. I was trying to get over the fact O is POTUS, but you got me worked up again Robo. Thanks.:p:D

I think jrbenny has a point....

Obama is going to become POTUS whether we like it or not, we (as a nation) voiced our opinion.

Personally, I did not vote for Obama - but by throwing a temper tantrum and getting myself worked up into a self perpetuating circle of frustration and fear of the unknown.....what is that showing my wife, my children, and those that know me? It shows them that if I don't get my way I'm gonna throw an adult version of a temper tantrum.

Look, anyone who knows me well knows of my conservative mindset - but what good am I doing for my family, friends, etc. by "freaking out" over this election?

Reflecting on the words of Henry Ford - "Whether you think you can or think you can not, you're right"....I believe that by thinking about, agonizing over, and predicting all the horrible things Obama is going to do to and for this country, it will happen.

Conversely, by choosing to find and focus on the positives of Obama's Presidency (I didn't say it would be easy...but it is possible:D), this too will happen.

And that's all I have to say about that right now.....:D

[hvacmd2002]

.....Extreme danger to life or property.

Depends how you define danger. Surely a more complicated word than "is" is.

I bet we can find all kinds of definitions for "extreme danger"

[jrbenny]

I am just simply amazed that someone with such self-proclaimed patriotism can show such disrespect for my flag.

[chaard]

^^^^^

Is that better?

[jrbenny]

Myself and others certainly thank you.

There are a few things in life that get me a bit upset.

Disrespect of the USA and its flag be one of those things.

[acmanko]

it must have burned your eyes to watch "Wonder Woman"

[k-fridge]

it must have burned your eyes to watch "Wonder Woman"

I always wanted her to tie me up with her golden lasso

[jrbenny]

it must have burned your eyes to watch "Wonder Woman"
When I was in elementary school, I didn't know.

Now, yes, I would object to her costume as I objected an avatar last year with a chick in a flag bikini.

[acmanko]

I always wanted her to tie me up with her golden lasso
I always wanted her to lasso me , haul me in close and give me a bust to the mouth:D

[RoBoTeq]

Hey Robo...you've got it wrong.
My family has served. You won't find a more patriotic family than mine. An uncle at Normandy. 2 more in WWII. An uncle who was a medic in Viet Nam who still is fighting the war. Father, sister, myself, have all served. Many more uncles & cousins all served. My family has a long history of giving to this country.

But....I survived Clinton. I was in. He brought the military down.

Obama is different. I don't care what color he is. He's unqualified, and he was shoved down our throats by the media and the nut cases on the far left. They could have voted for an American hero and a true patriot to lead this country. They voted for an empty suit. And I'm angry.

Never in a million years did I ever think I'd flip the flag upside down. I've marched under it, saluted it, & gotten teary eyed when the national anthem was played and it was flapping in the breeze. But now it looks different. It's not the same country to me. It's a country looking for a handout. We're not strong and proud anymore. It's all about what Uncle Sam can do for me.

Want free health care....vote Obama

Want a check in the mail...vote Obama

Someday I hope to fly my flag again. For now...it's been put away. The country she represents is a mess. On one level, I'm proud that we elected a black man. But not this black man. Give me someone who's fought for his country. Give me someone who I know can lead. I'd vote for him.
No, I am not wrong.

Just because you don't agree with the choice in president that most Americans prefer does not mean that President Obama is going to do the harm you claim as president. I happen to have a similar sentiment about President Obama, but I don't have the right to make the decision for all of America any more then you do.

If you don't want to fly the flag of your country, fine. Just don't disrespect symbols of our country just because you are angry you didn't get your way in the election.

[RoBoTeq]

You know Robo, I'm am trying not to let my emotions get the better of me and hope that Obama does a fairly decent job.

But I've got to to say I am in no way Un-American. I had no intentions of leaving the Country and as far as the upside Flag is concerned it is still the American Flag. Whether it be upside down, rightside up or sideways. I didn't change it from 50 stars to 57 stars.:rolleyes: It's still my flag.

I resent the the comment that I am not American. I am pissed off because I am American. I think Obama could ruin this Country. The guy wants to undermine the Constitution. To me that's a problem. We've let a fox into the hen house.

I am full blooded American, unlike Obama, and until O proves he's a real American then I will turn the flag rightside up. I was trying to get over the fact O is POTUS, but you got me worked up again Robo. Thanks.:p:D
I knew what you were doing and I decided to play the game by your rules;).

I don't for one minute believe you are un-American and I pretty much agree with your feelings. We could very well be just a little bit wrong though:eek:. Who knows, a leftist leader may help us realign ourselves in the world, or at worst, show just how bad it is to have a leftist leader.

Either way, we will survive President Obama and we may even come out of the next four years with some things being better. What's done is done, let's go with the flow and see what happens with our new president.

[RoBoTeq]

it must have burned your eyes to watch "Wonder Woman"
Your damned straight it did. Every time I saw her I just wanted to rip those American flag garments right off of her and.........excuse me; bathroom break:o

[hvacmd2002]

No, I am not wrong.

Just because you don't agree with the choice in president that most Americans prefer

Are you sure "most" is the right word here.

And let me ask you.......we have so much freedom here in America....Can we agree on that? More than any other nation on earth. It makes us unique. People flock here to enjoy our freedoms. And we can choose how to exercise some of our freedoms. Some say "God da@@ America" It's their right to speak as they wish. What a great country. In other countries, it might get you 2 in the hat.

If someone wants to burn the flag...I will defend their right. The more laws we make preventing freedom of speech, the farther we get from being the nation that our founders envisioned.

[sysint]

Don't worry about it. After nothing happens in 3 years you can start printing buttons like O-NO and/or O-NO-H for Hillary just in time for the next election.

[RoBoTeq]

Are you sure "most" is the right word here.

And let me ask you.......we have so much freedom here in America....Can we agree on that? More than any other nation on earth. It makes us unique. People flock here to enjoy our freedoms. And we can choose how to exercise some of our freedoms. Some say "God da@@ America" It's their right to speak as they wish. What a great country. In other countries, it might get you 2 in the hat.

If someone wants to burn the flag...I will defend their right. The more laws we make preventing freedom of speech, the farther we get from being the nation that our founders envisioned.
I agree that we as Americans do have many freedoms. I also agree that the Socialist minded liberals now empowered in our government are going to pass more laws that will reduce more of our freedoms. This, like all other Socialist agendas that have come and gone in our country, will pass.

I too will defend someones right to burn the American flag. Doesn't mean I won't kick his/her butt for doing so if I can catch them without witness's;). To me, even though laws take away this freedom, that is "my" right.

[glennac]

I agree that we as Americans do have many freedoms. I also agree that the Socialist minded liberals now empowered in our government are going to pass more laws that will reduce more of our freedoms. This, like all other Socialist agendas that have come and gone in our country, will pass.

I too will defend someones right to burn the American flag. Doesn't mean I won't kick his/her butt for doing so if I can catch them without witness's;). To me, even though laws take away this freedom, that is "my" right.

What are you smoking robo? This ain't going to pass so easy. You are whistling Dixie not that you know that great tune though. Yes we might get lucky and "survive" this with some of the Constitution in tact but don't count on it.

He will try to stack the court and then we are doomed. He will open the borders wider and then we will take another great hit with millions more illegals voting Democratic. He might try to organize the "masses" in the hood and take over the country just like happened in Venezuela.

The press will start a hero worship of him and more dump folks who aren't smart enough to think beyond M TV will be his supporters for life. Go ahead and keep your head in the sand but that will not change the facts. We will be ****** lucky to survive this and I think most of us understand that all to clearly. You don't need to make light of it.:eek:

[RoBoTeq]

What are you smoking robo? This ain't going to pass so easy. You are whistling Dixie not that you know that great tune though. Yes we might get lucky and "survive" this with some of the Constitution in tact but don't count on it.

He will try to stack the court and then we are doomed. He will open the borders wider and then we will take another great hit with millions more illegals voting Democratic. He might try to organize the "masses" in the hood and take over the country just like happened in Venezuela.

The press will start a hero worship of him and more dump folks who aren't smart enough to think beyond M TV will be his supporters for life. Go ahead and keep your head in the sand but that will not change the facts. We will be ****** lucky to survive this and I think most of us understand that all to clearly. You don't need to make light of it.:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNtMpPFM7M0&feature=related

I don't think Obama or Congressional leftists are going to be very affective in doing much of anything. I just hope I am wrong about believing that if we stop our aggressive military attitude in the Middle East, Americans will be attacked worldwide, including on U.S. soil.