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amd
10-28-2008, 08:15 PM
Out of curiousity do they exist?

super_tech_1
10-28-2008, 08:25 PM
Can't say I've ever heard of it. Atleast not if it was working right. My question would be why would you want one. The gas should shut off before the blower does so it can cool down the exchanger.

skippedover
10-28-2008, 08:29 PM
Yup. Every one I've ever worked on. As long as the electricity is present at the valve coil, the valve stays open. When the electricity stops, the valve closes. How else would you want it to work? Want a longer delay? Keep the electricty on the coil. Shorter delay? Remove the electricity sooner.

amd
10-28-2008, 08:31 PM
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amd
10-28-2008, 09:22 PM
Can't say I've ever heard of it. Atleast not if it was working right. My question would be why would you want one. The gas should shut off before the blower does so it can cool down the exchanger.

I was doing someone a favour (filter/humidifier cleaning) and noticed that the gas valve takes several seconds to close after the power is cut during a call for heat (it's being dealt with, taking no risks) - I was just wondering if valves were designed to do that. (Why someone would design a valve like that, I have no idea :confused: )

the dangling wrangler
10-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Out of curiousity do they exist?

I've seen 'em before. On some of the older units. Can't really remember which one now. Not that long of a delay, less than fifteen-twenty seconds, on or off. I'm sure of that.

superfittertech
10-28-2008, 09:31 PM
honey well used to make an adjustable slow opening/closing gas valve used on natural draft boilers. it had an adjustment screw on the vent that slowed down both opening & closing times. i haven't seen one in at least 10-15 years though.

ar_hvac_man
10-28-2008, 09:37 PM
Ive run across a couple myself. Seems like they were all on old a$$ equipment.

Wirenut
10-28-2008, 10:23 PM
I have seen them on some very old equipment, Essex valve with brown cover , they had a bimetal actuator with heater coil. They were slow opening and closing.

amd
10-28-2008, 10:28 PM
Ive run across a couple myself. Seems like they were all on old a$$ equipment.

This was on a 1980 Lennox G8* - defect or design?

(*Canadian plants made that model until '92)

the dangling wrangler
10-28-2008, 10:36 PM
This was on a 1980 Lennox G8* - defect or design?


That might depend on who you ask. I couldn't tell you, with any certainty.

Wirenut
10-28-2008, 11:11 PM
If the valve on your old lennox had pilot button on the left side and a separate pilot on and off valve on the top, it is a slow open and closing valve. The G8 and 12 furnaces may encounter pilot outage problems if the correct valve isn't used.

amd
10-28-2008, 11:22 PM
If the valve on your old lennox had pilot button on the left side and a separate pilot on and off valve on the top, it is a slow open and closing valve. The G8 and 12 furnaces may encounter pilot outage problems if the correct valve isn't used.

This one had a standard valve - single unit, can't visualize it. (not mine BTW)

Thanks.

BaldLoonie
10-29-2008, 06:13 AM
The "Old Blue" Bryants had a valve that would stay open for several seconds after power was removed. I think they were an Essex.

Tom R
10-29-2008, 07:22 AM
We use to see the slow opening valves on the old natural draft, standing pilot units with ribbon burners especially on the units with more than 3 burners where the crossover channel got pretty long..

I can't say that I ever remember seeing one on a unit with inshot burners.