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mwt
09-17-2002, 08:13 PM
im sorry but i refuse to pay for the software. i have used it and it is excellent. Since most software is pirated( can we say CD BURNER!) i know i can find a copy of this program. Hell all my games on my computer are copies i didnt pay a cent for any of them. Im not sure how companies designing and marketing these programs can make any money because u know sooner or later someone will get a hold of a copy and give it to every tom dick and harry and that will be the end of your market. this is just my opinion of course

Don Sleeth
09-17-2002, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by mwt
im sorry but i refuse to pay for the software. i have used it and it is excellent. Since most software is pirated( can we say CD BURNER!) i know i can find a copy of this program. Hell all my games on my computer are copies i didnt pay a cent for any of them. Im not sure how companies designing and marketing these programs can make any money because u know sooner or later someone will get a hold of a copy and give it to every tom dick and harry and that will be the end of your market. this is just my opinion of course

Gee, thanks mwt. Glad you like our program! I hope you are enjoying the site. But that's okay, I refuse to sell you the software! LOL

don

airman1
09-17-2002, 08:27 PM
MWT...you are a man of intregrity honor and a valuable human...but i am sure we could raise enough money on this site to give you a one way ticket out...we don't want opinion from jerks like you...keep your fingers in your pants and play with something more to your intelligent level..just my opinion of course..

[Edited by airman1 on 09-17-2002 at 08:31 PM]

trgams
09-17-2002, 08:45 PM
This is sortof like going into someone's house and taking a pee right in the middle of the living room floor, right in front of the homeowner. There is only one comment that immediately comes to mind: What an uncouth a**hole. Sorry to see someone do that to you Don. :(

infwsdm
09-17-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by mwt
im sorry but i refuse to pay for the software. i have used it and it is excellent. Since most software is pirated( can we say CD BURNER!) i know i can find a copy of this program. Hell all my games on my computer are copies i didnt pay a cent for any of them. Im not sure how companies designing and marketing these programs can make any money because u know sooner or later someone will get a hold of a copy and give it to every tom dick and harry and that will be the end of your market. this is just my opinion of course

I want you to come to my house and install a variable speed furnace with air conditioning, send your best guys.

I'm sure they will do an excellent job and work very hard and even have some good ideas on how my house can be very very comfortable.

But I refuse to pay you, I have lots of stuff that I scammed off of people you should see my collection.

hydronicsman
09-17-2002, 08:57 PM
makes a statement and no one cares, is it audible?:)

Skittles
09-17-2002, 09:14 PM
Hey Boss,

Don't you think it's time for mwt to leave? Like forever?

Sean Burke
09-17-2002, 09:36 PM
You're not worth the effort, MWT.

Theft is theft, no matter if it's mugging someone directly, or the theft of intellectual property. For the cost and capabilities of HVAC-Calc, the licensing fees charged are in line with the value of the product. It is worht what you pay for.

If you can find someone to burn a copy of any software, then know what you have done is both morally and legally wrong. And if you need tools, feel free to help yourself from the next well-appointed truck you see.

I just hope the truck owner catches you in the act, and takes care of you for both himself and Don.

54regcab
09-17-2002, 10:05 PM
Yes you can go to a hack site and download a serial # for about ANY program out there, but it's the honest people out there that give software creators the incentive to go to work every morning.

So the software developers spend more time creating anti-hack systems for their software making it more difficult for legit users to install it.

Then you get companies like microsoft that make you call customer service every time you format your hard drive to authenticate the serial #

Therefore the price yet again increases for legitmate users, so on and so forth.

I think that for the most part any dishonest contractor wouldn't ever do a load calc therefore have no need for the software, just a thought.

Daniel
09-17-2002, 10:32 PM
Go see Sadam in Irak !
You won't have that kind of problem, there are no computers there.
Did you steal your computer too?


Daniel

jmac00
09-17-2002, 10:41 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


you are quite possibly the stupidest Moron on the net.

Your one of those genious felons that pays for a kilo of cocaine and then runs down to the police station and asks them to test it for quality are'nt you.

Bwaaaaaa hehehehehehahahahahahaha, your killing me hehehehehehheheh

I gota go, this is top funny

sorry don, but you got be amazed by this guy.

BamaCracker
09-17-2002, 11:22 PM
Don, in order to help offset the cost of this site, since this moron (who I supported in another thread before reading this one) refuses to pay, I'd like to make a cash contribution.

I'll bet there are enough guys here pissed off by this that we can more than offset his larcenous ways.

Where would you like me to send the money? Can you take a check (or would that be cheque?)?

BTW MWT, I hope the collection agency stiffs you for the amount they collect.

Milk man
09-17-2002, 11:32 PM
Stepped on it big time here. I'm sure you could find many other sites to hang out. You might consider an apology note with your check.

wolfdog
09-17-2002, 11:43 PM
Easy Bama. I don't think he has fraudulent possession of the program. I think he is just a loud mouth fool.

Don has Bruno collect funds on all his software.

condenseddave
09-17-2002, 11:44 PM
I'm truly impressed, and I thought MWT was an up and coming young contractor. Turns out, he's a thief and a cheat.

No wonder the customers' won't pay him.

I'm in on the offset contribution. We can call it the "MWT reeducation fund".

Further proof of foolish hypocrisy can be viewed at:

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=18448

Where are own little loser software thief is *****ing about not getting paid on a call.

[Edited by condenseddave on 09-17-2002 at 11:51 PM]

wolfdog
09-17-2002, 11:55 PM
Maybe Don could send him a Special Edition for evaluation purposes.

You know , signs you up to multiple overseas porno sites, sends a few threatening letters to government agencies from your personal IP address,
then formats your hard drive....
all while giving you ficticious calculations for your next big job bid.

condenseddave
09-18-2002, 12:28 AM
Hey Don, Wolfie's got a good idea, here. Maybe you should just GIVE him the evaluation software.:D:D:D:D:D:D

Dice can help with the overseas beastiality sites, I believe.

"Wham Bam Thank You Lamb"!!!:D:D

mwt
09-18-2002, 06:37 AM
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA! Lets all just relax here. Ive picked up all my software through shareware( I sure everyone knows what that is) It is a legitimate way of sharing software with other users.

P.S. I believe i charge a very good rate for OT service. I am worth every penny and i am highly reguarded in the industry in my area. Never judge anyone you dont even know it is bad P.R. I have a lot of knowledge in this industry and would like to share it with other ppl(like yourselves) . I have also received good information from ppl on this site so im going to stick around but i certainly dont need the harassment(see forum rules).
thanks

Jim H
09-18-2002, 07:16 AM
I think what we have here is a cheat and a liar



http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=18492
mwt
Member

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 25
my company only does big jobs and has survived 30 years. Most of are jobs are over 100 grand and we have done several jobs over a million each the last 3 years. Our revenue last years was 3.5 million. The key is u must have very experienced estimators that go through the Specs with a fine tooth comb.


and from here

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=18448



mwt
Member

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 25
just did an emergency call for a customer who called me for the first time. Problem was a plugged condenser coil compressor was cycling on overload. i cleaned condenser checked over entire system repaired small leak at txv and added refrigerant. I was there about an hour and when i gave him a bill he says im not paying that its too much. The bill was $75.00 and that included overtime and the refrigerant i added. I told him'fine dont call me again.i just got off the phone with a fellow HVAC tech and he said he knows who this guy is and he has screwed 4 service contractors and no one will do work for him. I guess i just learned my lesson. I'll get my money though i have ways.



and there are probably more, but why bother.

Hope you find a lot more customers like that one mwt, it takes a lot of those $75 calls to make 3.5 million in a year LOL

see ya round, NOT

jim

ekim
09-18-2002, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by mwt
im sorry but i refuse to pay for the software. i have used it and it is excellent. Since most software is pirated( can we say CD BURNER!) i know i can find a copy of this program. Hell all my games on my computer are copies i didnt pay a cent for any of them. Im not sure how companies designing and marketing these programs can make any money because u know sooner or later someone will get a hold of a copy and give it to every tom dick and harry and that will be the end of your market. this is just my opinion of course

You are a jerk! Don Sleeth has done a great job of putting together this informative website, were peons like you can come aboard and and tell him you are going to steal from him? Like the other posts said you are a wannabe, making up things as you go, so who really cares what you TRY to do with his software. If you really have had multimillion $$$ jobs, what so hard about paying a couple hundred for some quality software that saves you time, much less coming here and attempting to rub his nose in it.

Dont let the door hit you in the butt on the way back to loserville.

chs
09-18-2002, 09:12 AM
When I read the begining post, I thought this guy can't be this ignorant. Particularly after recognizing his handle as just being ripped by a customer. Hey,what goes around comes around.

But after reading his $3.5 mil post and his concern over $75, my BS detector is loud and clear.

He is getting just what he wants, attention. Like my grandmother would have said " He needs a good case of leaving alone".

mwt, you are the weakest link. Bye,bye.

Don Sleeth
09-18-2002, 09:25 AM
Thank you very much for your support here guys, I really do appreciate it, it means a lot to me!

Back about 20 years ago I switched from being an HVAC contractor to providing software to HVAC contractors. In those 20 years I have been treated respectfully and very honestly by every contractor I have dealt with, with only a handful of exceptions. (and I can remember every one of them!)

I know that you guys deal with customers all the time who try to cheat you and get something for nothing, as a contractor I did too, but now, since I deal primarily with contractors like yourselves, I have been spared that. And boy, am I thankful for it! http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/images/icons/icon14.gif

People like mwt are a real exception to the norm in the world of HVAC contractors, and I think the reaction to his post demonstrates that better than any words I can string together.

Thanks again, it is a pleasure having you here in my home!

don

ekim
09-18-2002, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Don Sleeth
Thank you very much for your support here guys, I really do appreciate it, it means a lot to me!


Thanks again, it is a pleasure having you here in my home!

don


Well I truly enjoy visiting your home Don!

Got any munchies? How bout a Molson? :)

Pressureman
09-18-2002, 10:30 AM
Where's the beer Don? When you see knuckleheads like MWT, you hope he doesn't breed and pass the seed! You know these guys are out there, they supply the humor and give good articles for Dateline.

jmac00
09-18-2002, 11:50 AM
that's the Business Software Alliance. They're looking for people just like you.

http://www.bsa.org/usa/antipiracy/

One annomyous tip from someone on this board, or someone you've pissed off recently (must be a long list) and they'll be knocking on your door and confiscating your computer and leveling hefty fines.

So, have fun with your "free" software and keep bragging on public forums how you never pay for software. You are one smart cookie. :D

Rick Rote
09-18-2002, 08:54 PM
I hope the Boss doesn't edit me on this. You are one miseralbe bastard. This is the best program out there at the best price. With the best support and you are to cheap to pay the price. You are a worthless piece of crap.


Rick Rote

condenseddave
09-18-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Rick Rote
I hope the Boss doesn't edit me on this. You are one miseralbe bastard. This is the best program out there at the best price. With the best support and you are to cheap to pay the price. You are a worthless piece of crap.


Rick Rote

C'mon Rick, don't sugarcoat this, tell us how we all really feel...:D:D

infwsdm
09-18-2002, 09:15 PM
I bet mwt didn't know what he stepped into on this one did he.

BamaCracker
09-18-2002, 10:10 PM
Hey Don, I like Wolfdog's idea! You think BOSS could arrange to use this guy's IP to send him a new copy of the evaluation software? :D

Let's see: we know about where he lives, BOSS has his ISP and IP, and he gave some sort of information when he registered here, and when he downloaded the evaluation software. Is he as anynomous as he thinks he is? :mad:

srmfsr
09-18-2002, 10:31 PM
MWT, my upbringing and high morals prevent me from expressing my opinion fo you.....oh.. what the hell, you're a worthless piece of ....Crap! Remember every dog has his day and my friend one day you will end up on bottom of the pile. I hope it the stinkiest pile of dog **** you have ever seen.

NormChris
09-18-2002, 10:42 PM
Has anybody noticed that MWT has..... sort of..... VANISHED?!!!!

Where do you suppose he went?

condenseddave
09-18-2002, 10:46 PM
Same place as all the rest of the loser troll jackleggin' hacks that come and go from this board like flies:

Loserfagwannabe.com

wolfdog
09-19-2002, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by srmfsr
MWT, my upbringing and high morals prevent me from expressing my opinion fo you.....oh.. what the hell, you're a worthless piece of ....Crap! Remember every dog has his day and my friend one day you will end up on bottom of the pile. I hope it the stinkiest pile of dog **** you have ever seen.



Hey,Hey ,HEY !

Speaking for the dogs on this board......we object to having our fecal products used in this particular euphuism.
Please use cat references in any further castigating.

srmfsr
09-19-2002, 04:19 PM
Sorry Wolfie, I guess I lost my composure, not being able to think clearly over the idea of that sorry piece of s... posting and boasting. I offer my everso humble apology to you and your canines.

Rick Rote
09-19-2002, 07:26 PM
My apologies to everyone else for my outburst. My feelings are not changed. I just wish I had taken my time to put them in a different, more elegant way.

I just can't take the country out of my way of getting to the point some times. I don't know why my family, friends and dealers put up with me.

wolfdog
09-20-2002, 12:16 AM
Rick, Aside from the comment about his progenitor's marital status, I thought your comment was quite succinct.

I give it an A+.

Learner
09-20-2002, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by NormChris
Has anybody noticed that MWT has..... sort of..... VANISHED?!!!!

Where do you suppose he went?

Immediately after his disappearance, we got a new member who calls himself "dikhead." At first I thought this was the new MWT, until I noticed dikhead seems quite experienced and intelligent.

gbfromsd
09-20-2002, 02:04 AM
What is that under the bridge, Why it's a troll!!!

johnl45
09-20-2002, 05:27 AM
I can't believe anyone could be that stupid. He must own the company that installed John Clark's system. I retract my former statement there really is idiot contractors out there that are also thieves and liars.

BamaCracker
09-24-2002, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by wolfdog
Rick, Aside from the comment about his progenitor's marital status, I thought your comment was quite succinct.

I give it an A+.

I don't know. I gave it an A+ because of the marital status remark. It's got a good beat and you can dance to it. :D

Wonder where old MWT crawled off to? :D