palin kids given free rides

[ChristopherNJ]

Gov palin charged thevstate of Alaska $21,000 for her kids to travel with her. The official business? One trip was for them to watch their father race snowmobiles. Furthermore records were doctored. Palin ordered changes to previously filed expense reports, the amendments added phrase to explain the girls attendance

[The Malster]

Gov palin charged thevstate of Alaska $21,000 for her kids to travel with her. The official business? One trip was for them to watch their father race snowmobiles. Furthermore records were doctored. Palin ordered changes to previously filed expense reports, the amendments added phrase to explain the girls attendance

I take it this is the story your referring to,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310999/

I am still waiting on the e-mail to circulate before I believe it :D

[ChristopherNJ]

Does Joe the plumber spend 150K on a make over?



I will laugh so hard when this nutjob Palin causes him to lose the election.


Her Couric interviews will be the nail in the coffin. Her abuse of power as governer will be the straw the broke the camels back. McCain camp not doing any research on her before picking her will be biting them in the butt real soon.




CHRISTOPHERNJ TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY:
GET BACK TO YOUR ROOTS OF SMALLER GOVENMENT. CUTS COSTS. GET US OUT OF DEBT. STOP FIGHTING A WAR THAT HAS NO END IN SIGHT. STOP TRYING TO FIGHT A WAR ON 2 FRONTS. STOP CATERING TO BIG BUSINESS AND WALL STREET AND THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT. then ill vote for you.

[hvacker]

First time I saw her my gut told me she was corruptible. Later her husband also.
One breath away? America would be nuts to let that happen.

[The Malster]

Lets not forget this little tidbit either :D

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27320899/

At least she is well dressed :)

[acmanko]

she did reform government spending, instead of politicians taking taxpayers money, we are shown how their children take taxpayers money.:D

[BamaCool]

You are all so right. I'd much rather give my vote to somebody that wants to take my guns and spread my hard earned money to other people that are just to lazy to get off their a$$ and make it for theirselves! What was I thinking all this time?

[acmanko]

You are all so right. I'd much rather give my vote to somebody that wants to take my guns and spread my hard earned money to other people that are just to lazy to get off their a$$ and make it for theirselves! What was I thinking all this time?
So. if you died tonite , you would not want your children to collect your social security benifits?

[Andy Schoen]

Fortunately, Obama plans on reducing taxes for 95 percent of American workers. I'm in this group, I think... :confused:

But about one-third of all U.S. tax filers pay no federal income taxes. So how can 95 percent of American workers get a tax reduction?

The WashTimes has got it figured out, I think ;) : http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/13/obama-tax-cut-refunds-those-who-dont-pay/

[classical]

If this was a story from somewhere beside MSNBC it might have credence. If it is true I would like to know the whole of it. If true is it wrong I don't know I don't know Alaska law I suspect neither do any of you.

As far as the McCain or RNC camps paying for her wardrobe who cares. It is a campaign expense and that is why money is contributed to the campaigns. Considering what money is spent on a campaign for TV and transportation it is miniscule. I didn't thank it was a big deal when Edwards was getting $400.00 haircuts and I don't care about her wardrobe.

I did not contribute to Edwards’s campaign and I have not contributed to McCain or the RNC. If I had I still would not care contributions are for getting a candidate elected and if sprucing up a wardrobe is what they spend their money on so be it. Hey if Hillary had spent some money on clothes instead of those stupid pantsuits she might be running for president instead of Obama.

[BamaCool]

So. if you died tonite , you would not want your children to collect your social security benifits?
What does that have to do with anything I just mentioned? Besides that, it's going to take alot more than either candidate can do in his term to fix SS.

[ga-hvac-tech]

OK Mr. Chris from NJ;

If you truly want me to believe you are an unbiased voter that is looking for truth, I have a request: I would like to see you post a news story that is critical of Mr Obama.

And since you have taken it upon yourself to take a shot at the family of Ms Palin, the negative story about Mr Obama needs to be about his family also. Come to think of it, I have not seen much (if anything) negative about Mr Obama's family in the news... Wonder why that is???

Can you find that article for me?

Or will you behavior speak louder than your words???

[2cool4us]

http://www.stylelist.com/blog/2008/10/22/rnc-gives-sarah-palin-a-150-000-shopping-stipend/?icid=200100397x1211883025x1200740416


In the depth of a dark recession heading to a grave depression our wannabe VP is flaunting new and expensive clothes on the Party's dollars. Reminds me of the statement made by McCain that middle class started at 5 million and under. :eek::mad:

[BamaCool]

I'm not knocking on you just cause you're a Yankee, I'm even friends with a few(well maybe one), But how in the hell can you justify taking money from people that work hard to earn it and give that money to somebody that would rather sit on their a$$ because they know that Obama (aka Robin Hood) is going to pay them for doing NOTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVES ON THEIR OWN. Believe me, I'll have so many business expenses, I'm going to be one of the lucky slackers taking money from YOUR POCKET!:p

[ga-hvac-tech]

I'm not knocking on you just cause you're a Yankee, I'm even friends with a few(well maybe one), But how in the hell can you justify taking money from people that work hard to earn it and give that money to somebody that would rather sit on their a$$ because they know that Obama (aka Robin Hood) is going to pay them for doing NOTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVES ON THEIR OWN. Believe me, I'll have so many business expenses, I'm going to be one of the lucky slackers taking money from YOUR POCKET!:p

You know Bama, I had not thought of this: The gentleman in NJ probably makes twice as much as we do, because the cost of living is waaay higher up there than here...

And if his beloved Mr Obama gets into office... Sure he will pay a few less $$$ than he used to in taxes...

But us southern boys probably will pay NO taxes at all... rather get a check from the government... at HIS expense...

I wonder if he likes that idea???

[Tool-Slinger]

Mommy/govorner travels with children.,,,, You have some piont?

[BamaCool]

You know Bama, I had not thought of this: The gentleman in NJ probably makes twice as much as we do, because the cost of living is waaay higher up there than here...

And if his beloved Mr Obama gets into office... Sure he will pay a few less $$$ than he used to in taxes...

But us southern boys probably will pay NO taxes at all... rather get a check from the government... at HIS expense...

I wonder if he likes that idea???

That's really good, GA. Makes me feel better knowing that all these yankees are going to pay all us good ol' boys. Kinda like restitution for us being treated the way we have been. Glad you posted that!:p:p:p:p Yankees.....Thanks for your support!!!! Make all you can. All donations are appreciated!!

[NormChris]

So. if you died tonite , you would not want your children to collect your social security benifits?

If you can't spell the word "benefits" you should not be allowed to draw them!

[Tool-Slinger]

reality chex guys, 25ish taxable income gets you 1200ish in income taxes, no way around it. Obamama is flat out lying that he will reduce income taxes on 95%. That is impossible. 40ish percent pay no income taxes to begin with.

[Tool-Slinger]

No fair to pick on spelling, this is a forum not a spelling bee :D

[BamaCool]

If you can't spell the word "benefits" you should not be allowed to draw them!
HEE HEE HEE HEE HEEEH:D:D:D:D

[Andy Schoen]

That is impossible. 40ish percent pay no income taxes to begin with.

Of course its possible. The WashTimes has done the math. Everybody in this category gets a welfare check from our Government. :p

[BamaCool]

Of course its possible. The WashTimes has done the math. Everybody in this category gets a check from our Government. :p
That you big dog money making yankees sign!!:D:D:D

Just in case some of you don't get it........Under this plan, I would actually benefit, but I don't care. It's not right to take money from somebody that's more fortunate than I am or has more ambition to make more money and have to give it to me. THIS IS CALLED SOCIALISM!!:mad::mad:

[Tool-Slinger]

Socialism smocialism,... get a million man marching on it and we have communism!


Or civil war,... just trying to think ahead here,....

[BamaCool]

Socialism smocialism,... get a million man marching on it and we have communism!


Or civil war,... just trying to think ahead here,....
Maybe that's what Biden was talking about happening within the first six months after election?????:rolleyes:

[Tool-Slinger]

Scary possibility, but you may be correct there,....

[ga-hvac-tech]

That's really good, GA. Makes me feel better knowing that all these yankees are going to pay all us good ol' boys. Kinda like restitution for us being treated the way we have been. Glad you posted that!:p:p:p:p Yankees.....Thanks for your support!!!! Make all you can. All donations are appreciated!!

You know Bama, I just realized something else:

ALL those folks in NY that voted for Hillary as their senator probably will be financing us down here also... could not happen to a more worthy bunch of folks... :p:D

[BamaCool]

You know Bama, I just realized something else:

ALL those folks in NY that voted for Hillary as their senator probably will be financing us down here also... could not happen to a more worthy bunch of folks... :p:D

If you get back more taxes than you paid in................................................ .........................You might just be a redneck!!!!!:p:p:p:p

[mrs reb77]

Doesn't Kal-i-FOR-nya have about the highest cost of living? Therefore requiring the highest wages?


Maybe we could just all live off the Kal-i-FOR-nyians? Tax them and send the rest of us a check?


(Hi Wolfstrike!! :eek:)

[BamaCool]

Doesn't Kal-i-FOR-nya have about the highest cost of living? Therefore requiring the highest wages?


Maybe we could just all live off the Kal-i-FOR-nyians? Tax them and send the rest of us a check?


(Hi Wolfstrike!! :eek:)
Sounds good to me. I haven't sent any money their way in a long time. It's been 20+ years since I've been to see a movie! Send it in, you Hollywood Buttheads!!!:D

[ChristopherNJ]

I'm not knocking on you just cause you're a Yankee, I'm even friends with a few(well maybe one), But how in the hell can you justify taking money from people that work hard to earn it and give that money to somebody that would rather sit on their a$$ because they know that Obama (aka Robin Hood) is going to pay them for doing NOTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVES ON THEIR OWN. Believe me, I'll have so many business expenses, I'm going to be one of the lucky slackers taking money from YOUR POCKET!:p




Ive said this before I think but here goes

1) I do not love Obama. I do not beleive he has all the answeres. I do not believe in giving hand outs to everyone. However I feel McCains agenda is too close to Bushs agenda (and ive posted links about this in other threads)

2) I do not like the direction of the revublican party. I feel that this neo-consertivitism is just as bad as Obamas socialism. Both are too far left or right. Id prefere someone in the middle.

3) I think McCain caters too much to big business. If you look into some of his ideas, heath care for example, you can clearly see how his health care plan benifits the health care industry.

4) Im a small business owner, hes not talking about any issues that will help me in anyway. I make my living off of a strong construction market. I need consumers to see the value in spending thousands to upgrade an HVAC system in their house. Currently people are not confident in making large purchases. For example McCain supports NAFTA. I feel that NAFTA costs us far too many jobs. These people the lose these jobs. People losing good paying jobs is not good for me. Under the Bush administration America has lost more jobs, and the average income for families has gone down.

[glennac]

Ive said this before I think but here goes

1) I do not love Obama. I do not beleive he has all the answeres. I do not believe in giving hand outs to everyone. However I feel McCains agenda is too close to Bushs agenda (and ive posted links about this in other threads)

2) I do not like the direction of the revublican party. I feel that this neo-consertivitism is just as bad as Obamas socialism. Both are too far left or right. Id prefere someone in the middle.

3) I think McCain caters too much to big business. If you look into some of his ideas, heath care for example, you can clearly see how his health care plan benifits the health care industry.

4) Im a small business owner, hes not talking about any issues that will help me in anyway. I make my living off of a strong construction market. I need consumers to see the value in spending thousands to upgrade an HVAC system in their house. Currently people are not confident in making large purchases. For example McCain supports NAFTA. I feel that NAFTA costs us far too many jobs. These people the lose these jobs. People losing good paying jobs is not good for me. Under the Bush administration America has lost more jobs, and the average income for families has gone down.

So then who are you voting for? I think we know but go ahead and tell us, we are holding our breath.:D:)

[ga-hvac-tech]

If you get back more taxes from a Dem liberal administration than you paid in................................................ .... You might just be a redneck!!!!!:p:p:p:p

That, my friend, is the line of the evening!!!

Having said that, may I add a few words (se red above).

[ChristopherNJ]

So then who are you voting for? I think we know but go ahead and tell us, we are holding our breath.:D:)

Ron Paul

I live in NJ, it doesnt matter how I vote anyways.


<--would love to see the electoral college go the way of the dinosaurs

[ga-hvac-tech]

Ive said this before I think but here goes

1) I do not love Obama. I do not beleive he has all the answeres. I do not believe in giving hand outs to everyone. However I feel McCains agenda is too close to Bushs agenda (and ive posted links about this in other threads)

2) I do not like the direction of the revublican party. I feel that this neo-consertivitism is just as bad as Obamas socialism. Both are too far left or right. Id prefere someone in the middle.

3) I think McCain caters too much to big business. If you look into some of his ideas, heath care for example, you can clearly see how his health care plan benifits the health care industry.

4) Im a small business owner, hes not talking about any issues that will help me in anyway. I make my living off of a strong construction market. I need consumers to see the value in spending thousands to upgrade an HVAC system in their house. Currently people are not confident in making large purchases. For example McCain supports NAFTA. I feel that NAFTA costs us far too many jobs. These people the lose these jobs. People losing good paying jobs is not good for me. Under the Bush administration America has lost more jobs, and the average income for families has gone down.

Funny thing about NAFTA; It has resulted in more exports than imports in $$$ value. And those exports had to be made by someone. The bottom line is that some job categories shrink, but others expand. This is just part of life, not much one can do about it. And repealing NAFTA would not change much, other than leave the USA behind the rest of the world... not a good idea IMO.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Ron Paul

I live in NJ, it doesnt matter how I vote anyways.




I take back what I said about you Chris... I wish Ron Paul was electable... He certainly understands economics better than most of them.

Down here in GA, we have had a situation where an independent bled off the conservative vote and allowed a really goofy liberal to get elected... I just cannot bring myself to vote for a third party candidate and risk that happening...

I do wish Ron Paul was electable though, I think he would shake up Wash DC thoroughly enough to make some real 'change'.

[aruddick]

I take back what I said about you Chris... I wish Ron Paul was electable... He certainly understands economics better than most of them.

Down here in GA, we have had a situation where an independent bled off the conservative vote and allowed a really goofy liberal to get elected... I just cannot bring myself to vote for a third party candidate and risk that happening...

I do wish Ron Paul was electable though, I think he would shake up Wash DC thoroughly enough to make some real 'change'.

We had that same discussion today. We have a libretairian that makes god sense. The other two have traded places every 2 years for the last 8 years. That leads to alot of planning to get reelected and not much work getting done. If we vote libretetian the liberal will win!!!! catch 22

[classical]

Man I have a word for you guys if you think that John McCain is a conservative; WRONG.

He is a middle of the road liberal but much less liberal or socialist than Obama.

I also would like another viable candidate but one does not exist and Ron Paul is definitely not the answer. I know this guy better than any of you, his district is just south of me. I voted for him back in 1980 and I also voted for John Anderson for president that year. I bet most of you if any of you know who he is; he had the most votes for a libertarian running for president except Ross Perot whom I also voted for.

Ron Paul is a bigger fraud than Obama is he just was not given enough exposure to prove to people around the country. Yes he says the right things in prepared speeches and on his website but in a confrontational interview his real nature comes out. He is an extreme isolationist and would if he could implement his polices do a better job of destroying our economy than Obama will.

If you want someone to get behind and want to really make a statement with your vote right in Alan Keyes. This is a man that is a true conservative in every sense of the word and has the good of the country and its people in his heart. His economic and social agenda is the best I have heard next to maybe Newt and he has a much higher moral standard than Newt does.

[glennac]

Man I have a word for you guys if you think that John McCain is a conservative; WRONG.

He is a middle of the road liberal but much less liberal or socialist than Obama.

I also would like another viable candidate but one does not exist and Ron Paul is definitely not the answer. I know this guy better than any of you, his district is just south of me. I voted for him back in 1980 and I also voted for John Anderson for president that year. I bet most of you if any of you know who he is; he had the most votes for a libertarian running for president except Ross Perot whom I also voted for.

Ron Paul is a bigger fraud than Obama is he just was not given enough exposure to prove to people around the country. Yes he says the right things in prepared speeches and on his website but in a confrontational interview his real nature comes out. He is an extreme isolationist and would if he could implement his polices do a better job of destroying our economy than Obama will.

If you want someone to get behind and want to really make a statement with your vote right in Alan Keyes. This is a man that is a true conservative in every sense of the word and has the good of the country and its people in his heart. His economic and social agenda is the best I have heard next to maybe Newt and he has a much higher moral standard than Newt does.

Lighten up there classic, I don't recall anyone saying or thinking that McCain is anything but a liberal unless some leftest may have said that. I will be using a clothes pin and swallow some Tums when I go to the polls and vote for a liberal and opposed to a commie on election day. Can't imagine the alternative.:eek:

[acmanko]

as for corrections, everyone on this forum who considers themselves conservative


WRONG


you are all a bunch of crying, liberal, wet diapered wannabes

[ga-hvac-tech]

as for corrections, everyone on this forum who considers themselves conservative


WRONG


you are all a bunch of crying, liberal, wet diapered wannabes

Nothing personal there Ace, but what do you consider yourself?

[classical]

Hey Glenn I was addressing the liberals that think McCain is a conservative. We conservatives know what he is.

[acmanko]

Nothing personal there Ace, but what do you consider yourself?
ultra conservative:D

[mrs reb77]

Med changes are always hard to adjust to aren't they David?

Only a couple more weeks now. :p

[classical]

ultra conservative:D

I am an ULTRA CONSERVATIVE: you I would classify as a Green!:eek::D

[ga-hvac-tech]

ultra conservative:D

Funny there Ace, you could have fooled me with your rhetoric... :D

[The Malster]

News Update, Its ok with the State if the kids ride along :)

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/564703.html

[acmanko]

Funny there Ace, you could have fooled me with your rhetoric... :D
thats cause liberal conservatives have met very few of us. our numbers are shrinking:mad:

[bootlen]

So, ac, you're voting Obama?

[acmanko]

So, ac, you're voting Obama?
looks like I'll be in a third party , not sure which. and you, I assume will be wasting your vote on a loser also.

[bootlen]

Only 2 viable candidates. If you think there are 3 or more, you are out of touch with reality. A vote for any but McCain is a vote for BO.

You answered my question in the affirmative.

[BamaCool]

Only 2 viable candidates. If you think there are 3 or more, you are out of touch with reality. A vote for any but McCain is a vote for BO.

You answered my question in the affirmative.

Boot's exactly right. If you want your vote to count, you must choose between the two.

[acmanko]

Boot's exactly right. If you want your vote to count, you must choose between the two.
This is only true if you drink the kool-aide of party politics. Since i am not a member of either party, must, does not apply.

[ga-hvac-tech]

This is only true if you drink the kool-aide of party politics. Since i am not a member of either party, must, does not apply.

I was idealistic for a long time... then it was a matter of honor (personal gratification would be a better term).

What I found (and I did not like it) is that whether I like it or not, and whether I agree or not, the system will go forward (with or without) me.

My choices were to play ball INSIDE the system, or be a victim of my stubborness, and probably stupidity... :(

So, based on those observations; I agree with Boots: A vote for anyone other than McCain is a vote for BHO.

Now lets see how it turns out in a week or so...

[bootlen]

I would love to see a REAL TRUE maverick get in and upset the rotten apple cart that is Congress. That's where term limits would be invaluable. I don't like McCain. I detest Obama. There were actually better candidates form both sides that wererun rough-shod over by the press and voters. Shame on both of us.

And 3 parties will not work. We need a majority to bolster confidence in the choice. If a Libertarian has a good enough platform and the bucks to succeed to the 1st Tuesday election, I'd go Libertarian. But as it is, we are stuck with a much lower quality candidate. We can only chose the one who will appear to do the least damage.

[acmanko]

You guys are getting old and forgetfull, a vote for Nader in 2000 cost Al Gore the election. Now if you are just verifying Gore and McCain as two peas from the same pod you could be on to something

[ga-hvac-tech]

You guys are getting old and forgetfull, a vote for Nader in 2000 cost Al Gore the election. Now if you are just verifying Gore and McCain as two peas from the same pod you could be on to something

Actually Ace, you make the point:

Nadar was a left candidate. He split the left vote and helped GW Bush win.

Sorry... :p

[Noel Murdough]

It would seem normal and right if he used public transportation and paid for his vacation travel.

But a global warming proponent flying all by himself to gramma's house in one of these begs the question, WTF? Who's paying?

All the fuel I've saved pinching gallons in my own vehicles is nothing compared to this waste.

Noel

[ga-hvac-tech]

It would seem normal and right if he used public transportation and paid for his vacation travel.

But a global warming proponent flying all by himself to gramma's house in one of these begs the question, WTF? Who's paying?

All the fuel I've saved pinching gallons in my own vehicles is nothing compared to this waste.

Noel

Yeah, it does appear Mr Obama is just like the rest of them...

Even a chartered LearJet would have been a LOT cheaper.

[bootlen]

It would seem normal and right if he used public transportation and paid for his vacation travel.

But a global warming proponent flying all by himself to gramma's house in one of these begs the question, WTF? Who's paying?

All the fuel I've saved pinching gallons in my own vehicles is nothing compared to this waste.

Noel

It's all good. The tires were properly inflated and points, plugs, and condenser were changed right before the trip.:rolleyes:

[acmanko]

It's all good. The tires were properly inflated and points, plugs, and condenser were changed right before the trip.:rolleyes:
Palin is giving helpful info on this one:D

[jdaug1]

Hey! At least she looks good in heels ;)

[ga-hvac-tech]

Hey! At least she looks good in heels ;)

She looks good in flats also... ;)

I think we should elect Sarah Palin to President simply because she is one tuff gal! She will create a lot of positive influence for the USA all over the world... :D

OK, now that we have had a laugh...

Ms Palin is a straight arrow that will not put up with any BS out of Congress. That in itself is enough for me. If folks want CHANGE; lets put someone in office that can deliver change AND accountability.

See there, one gets all the goods of a Dem, with some extra's when they go GOP... :p

[ChristopherNJ]

It would seem normal and right if he used public transportation and paid for his vacation travel.

But a global warming proponent flying all by himself to gramma's house in one of these begs the question, WTF? Who's paying?

All the fuel I've saved pinching gallons in my own vehicles is nothing compared to this waste.

Noel



You are comparing Obama visiting a dieing grandmother to someone charging the state for her kids to travel with her to events they werent invited to. The worst part is she doctored the records. In her short time in the spotlight its clear how she abuses her power.

[BamaCool]

The worst part is she doctored the records. :confused:

Not saying it doesn't exist, but can you show me proof of this?

[ga-hvac-tech]

You are comparing Obama visiting a dieing grandmother to someone charging the state for her kids to travel with her to events they werent invited to. The worst part is she doctored the records. In her short time in the spotlight its clear how she abuses her power.

Obviously a one-sided and non-objective viewpoint.

I asked you before to find some dirt on Mr Obama of equal cailber as the dirt you drum up on Mr McCain and Ms Palin. Are you capable of doing that?

It would appear the poster is yet another tunnel visioned pawn of the Dem machine.

[acmanko]

Its easy to find dirt on Obama. Just quote Glenn:D

[ga-hvac-tech]

Its easy to find dirt on Obama. Just quote Glenn:D

Agree Ace! But doing the research with their own eyes tends to cause brain cells to grow and develop in Dem's heads... ;)

[ChristopherNJ]

Heres the Palin story.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel


I haven’t found much "dirt" on Obama to post. Weve heard it all. Obamas dirt came out in the primary. They had such a battle it left everything out in the open.


You might say well Obama hangs out with terrorists, which would be a stretch. But McCains ties to the Keating 5 is not a stretch at all.


And most important is Palin has abused her power as Alaska governor.

legislative report that found she violated state ethics laws by letting a family dispute influence her decision-making.

Sources Cited: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate_18



Now I feel that since GWB expanded Presidential powers it would be horrible see what is truly on her agenda.

[acmanko]

Palin doesnt know what agenda means.

[glennac]

Now I feel that since GWB expanded Presidential powers it would be horrible see what is truly on her agenda.

Perhaps a free economy like they have in Hong Kong, New Zealand and Singapore. We would grow over night to a strong economy again.

[acmanko]

Perhaps a free economy like they have in Hong Kong, New Zealand and Singapore. We would grow over night to a strong economy again.
Hong Kong is not free, its part of communist China, Singapore is in a Muslim county. new Zealand is ok. 1 out of 3, you got to get better glenn

[The Malster]

Heres the Palin story.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel
.

And here is the other side of the story :D

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/564703.html

[ChristopherNJ]

And here is the other side of the story :D

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/564703.html


That link didnt work for me. So I found my own:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel


some parts I found courious:

For example, the girls flew to Anchorage from Juneau for the weekend on Feb. 9, 2007, with Palin charging the state $1,556.40 for their flights. Palin listed the girls' attendance as "official starter" of the Iron Dog snowmobile race, which their father has competed in for 14 years.


But event organizers told the AP they were surprised when the girls showed up, and some said they had no role.


Leighow also defended other state-paid trips the girls made. She provided to the AP on Wednesday an e-mail that the governor's office received that invited Bristol to a five-hour New York conference in October 2007 that she attended with her mother. Palin charged the state $1,385.11 for her daughter's flight. They shared a room for four nights in a luxury hotel on Central Park.

But the conference organizer said Bristol was only invited after the governor said she was bringing her.



Bill Tandeske, who served as public safety commissioner from 2003 to 2006 during Gov. Frank Murkowski's administration, said the state plane should be used for official business only, not like a family station wagon.

"Is the use of a state asset for the governor's husband and kids appropriate? I suggest not," Tandeske said.



So even the "other side" of the argument does not sit right with me.

[acmanko]

well, in fairness to elected officials, they do have a right to take their children with them. they also have a right to protection by the secret service, after all , Dem or Repub, they are involved in the workings of the country, but afterwards are private citizens again.

[The Malster]

That link didnt work for me. So I found my own:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel


Bill Tandeske, who served as public safety commissioner from 2003 to 2006 during Gov. Frank Murkowski's administration, said the state plane should be used for official business only, not like a family station wagon.

"Is the use of a state asset for the governor's husband and kids appropriate? I suggest not," Tandeske said.[/I]

So even the "other side" of the argument does not sit right with me.

Then I guess you have to take it up with this guy, The Current Commissioner

John Glass, the deputy public safety commissioner, said he was not aware of the friends' flight until The Associated Press brought it to his attention, but the governor has the right to bring others on the plane.

"She has the ability to authorize people to travel with her," Glass said. "That's the end of the story."

Contact Information:

Address: 5700 East Tudor Road
Anchorage, Alaska 99507-1225

Phone: (907) 269-5086
Fax: (907) 269-4543

But since you do not live in there not sure if he would listen to you anyway but you can give it a shot :D

[model m-man]

All this time & the worst they can come up with on Governor Palin is that she takes her kids with her on trip's and allow's her husband access to the Governor's office where she work's. Why that's plum terrible of her to act like a normal person! LOL Keep digging, it only makes her look better!

It seem's to me the only way around these two problem's is to prohibit anyone that is married or with children from running for any public office. That ought to shake things up a bit since almost all politician's have one one or the other. I wonder how much better off we'll be with only singles running the country?

[ChristopherNJ]

All this time & the worst they can come up with on Governor Palin is that she takes her kids with her on trip's and allow's her husband access to the Governor's office where she work's. Why that's plum terrible of her to act like a normal person! LOL Keep digging, it only makes her look better!

It seem's to me the only way around these two problem's is to prohibit anyone that is married or with children from running for any public office. That ought to shake things up a bit since almost all politician's have one one or the other. I wonder how much better off we'll be with only singles running the country?

I think abuse of power is abuse or power. Does not matter the circumstance.

[BamaCool]

All this time & the worst they can come up with on Governor Palin is that she takes her kids with her on trip's and allow's her husband access to the Governor's office where she work's.

What is the big deal about Todd Palin having access to the gov's office? As US citizens we are ALL SUPPOSED to have access. We are paying for it. The gov't is NOT SUPPOSED to keep secrets from us. What is the big deal about this?:confused:

[ga-hvac-tech]

What is the big deal about Todd Palin having access to the gov's office? As US citizens we are ALL SUPPOSED to have access. We are paying for it. The gov't is NOT SUPPOSED to keep secrets from us. What is the big deal about this?:confused:

It is a big deal if someone thinks government is something special.

If folks see government as PUBLIC SERVANTS, then it is not a big deal. And all us citizens need to do is make it CLEAR to the ones we elect that servant-hood is what we expect; and they will humbly bow down and do what we TELL them to do...

The mess on the Potomac is the voter's fault, plain and simple.

When we get enough of it, we will start making enough noise about it.

We do not need to vote for change, we need to accomplish change by making a lot of repeated noise!

[Noel Murdough]

His reason's for going have not been questioned. How dare you suggest that because a sitting senator has a good reason to fly his wife and kids from the east coast to Hawaii, that allows him to accept union and lobbyist money to pay for a 747 to fly them there.

Slush money is just that, no mater what the reason.

How about flying first class, paying for it themselves out of their half million dollar combined salary (govt. worker and hospital worker), and remove the smell of impropriety from it, while doing a little for the environment.

Isn't that the topic of this thread?

[acmanko]

his wife is campaining while he goes to Hawaii

[Noel Murdough]

That makes it OK then. Sorry I brought it up.

Noel

[acmanko]

That makes it OK then. Sorry I brought it up.

Noel
no need to apologize, but I just read where his wife is staying behind to campaing in I believe Nevada. I believe every penny candidates get for their campaigning should be taxable income. It would stop all the multi million dollar campaings and get lobbyists and PAC's out of elections in a hurry.

[Noel Murdough]

Good point.

[bootlen]

no need to apologize, but I just read where his wife is staying behind to campaing in I believe Nevada. I believe every penny candidates get for their campaigning should be taxable income. It would stop all the multi million dollar campaings and get lobbyists and PAC's out of elections in a hurry.

I totally agree. It would make people put their money where their mouths are.

(Looks like you have a problem with "campaing" like I do with "teh".:p)

[acmanko]

I totally agree. It would make people put their money where their mouths are.

(Looks like you have a problem with "campaing" like I do with "teh".:p)
yea, I dislike it so much I can't spell it right. Good thing I got me some new meds to deal with it.:D

[ar_hvac_man]

Id wouldnt mind giving Palin a free ride.;)

[glennac]

Id wouldnt mind giving Palin a free ride.;)

I don't think you could handle it.:D:)

[ga-hvac-tech]

I fully agree with the idea that campaign donations should NOT be tax deductable... But how do you get a reasonable law passed when you place the fox in charge of the chicken coupe???