Rheem RPKA-023JAZ

[Maa2p]

Where in the world can I buy a Copeland Scroll compressor (Mod. # ZR24KC-PFV-240) replacement? The guy who works on my unit is looking - but he's not really "johny on the spot." He suggested I start looking around for one as well. Any suggestions? This is for a Rheem RPKA-024JAZ.

[ga-hvac-tech]

How about the local Rheem distributor? After all, it came with that Copeland in it... :D

[BamaCool]

Call somebody that knows what the hell they're doing. I can have one in 30 min.

[beenthere]

What makes you think he'll install it any quicker then he looking for it.

Call a service company. They can get one and install it a lot faster then what your side job guy is.

[Maa2p]

How about the local Rheem distributor? After all, it came with that Copeland in it... :D

Couple of things. There really isn't a local distributer here only dealer/installers and they want all the biz (small town stuff). The other problem is that since they are the only game in town, they can set their own prices for the install *IF* they grant you permission to purchase from them w/o them installing it. I've had them do work before, they totally ripped me off and didn't correct the problem that I called for.

[BamaCool]

So, who is this "Guy" that's working on your unit????

[ga-hvac-tech]

Couple of things. There really isn't a local distributer here only dealer/installers and they want all the biz (small town stuff). The other problem is that since they are the only game in town, they can set their own prices for the install *IF* they grant you permission to purchase from them w/o them installing it. I've had them do work before, they totally ripped me off and didn't correct the problem that I called for.

Well, if you are licensed in your area, you should be able to find a distributor or wholesaler that handles Copeland. If not (cannot find one or are not licensed), I guess the folks that paid their dues get to make a profit... :)

[BamaCool]

Well, if you are licensed in your area, you should be able to find a distributor or wholesaler that handles Copeland. If not (cannot find one or are not licensed), I guess the folks that paid their dues get to make a profit... :)

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[ga-hvac-tech]

:D:D:D:D:D

Easy there Bama...

You guys are the ones that cleaned out all the ammunition at the Walmarts when you heard the Russians had invaded GA... you figured they were just a few miles away... :eek::p:rolleyes::cool::D

[Maa2p]

Well, if you are licensed in your area, you should be able to find a distributor or wholesaler that handles Copeland. If not (cannot find one or are not licensed), I guess the folks that paid their dues get to make a profit... :)
Since when does a person need a license just to purchase a part? What's the big secret about selling a part? I'm not going to install it - I want to just find one and not get ripped off!

[ga-hvac-tech]

Since when does a person need a license just to purchase a part?

If one does not know the answer to that question, they should not be doing the work.

[beenthere]

Since when does a person need a license just to purchase a part? What's the big secret about selling a part? I'm not going to install it - I want to just find one and not get ripped off!

You just don't want a company to make any money from you.

Have your side job guy get the stuff, or are you afraid he will rip you off.

[Twilly]

TwilliWorld

[Maa2p]

You just don't want a company to make any money from you.

Have your side job guy get the stuff, or are you afraid he will rip you off.


He won't rip me off, he's just not that quick about things. I'm trying to speed things along. Companies over charge.

If you guys can't help me, I guess ebay can.

[the dangling wrangler]

If you guys can't help me, I guess ebay can.

What happens, when "they", send you a compressor that isn't an exact replacement? Could have to be re- plumbed, capacitor, different mounting pattern, minor stuff but, not for a trainee, or part timer. You'll be miles ahead, paying what the job is worth, and hiring a full fledged contractor to do it.But, it's your money, spend it as you like. Good Luck.

[ga-hvac-tech]

What happens, when "they", send you a compressor that isn't an exact replacement? Could have to be re- plumbed, capacitor, different mounting pattern, minor stuff but, not for a trainee, or part timer. You'll be miles ahead, paying what the job is worth, and hiring a full fledged contractor to do it.But, it's your money, spend it as you like. Good Luck.

Hey DW, how's it going down in big H?

The reason IMO a part timer or a DIY should not be fiddling with a compressor is that unless they have a recovery system and an EPA card, they will be in violation of many federal laws...

Hey, lets find out where these DIY guys are and see if we can collect the multi-thousand $$$ finder's fee when they get prosecuted (and maybe put in jail)... :D

[the dangling wrangler]

Hey DW, how's it going down in big H?


It's mellow like a chello here. We still on for turkey day vacation?

[ga-hvac-tech]

It's mellow like a chello here. We still on for turkey day vacation?

I have not made plans with Dad yet, but I think so.

It will be good to see the town again, and meeting a couple of HVAC guys down there would be a treat!

Looking forward to it!

[the dangling wrangler]

We had a pilot go down today. He walked away. Couldn't tell you what he was flying, it was too badly burnt. Check out some of the local papers on line, I'm sure it's made news by now. If you do visit, we'll hook up with some of the other Houston guys. It's really, only a few weeks away.

[Maa2p]

Hey DW, how's it going down in big H?

The reason IMO a part timer or a DIY should not be fiddling with a compressor is that unless they have a recovery system and an EPA card, they will be in violation of many federal laws...

Hey, lets find out where these DIY guys are and see if we can collect the multi-thousand $$$ finder's fee when they get prosecuted (and maybe put in jail)... :D

FYI - I did mention before that "I'm" not installing it. The "guy on the side" is a licensed contractor - a very busy one. I'm just trying to buy a mechanical part and get it here for him to install. I didn't know or have I read anywhere that it was against any law to buy parts.

[the dangling wrangler]

FYI - I did mention before that "I'm" not installing it. The "guy on the side" is a licensed contractor - a very busy one. I'm just trying to buy a mechanical part and get it here for him to install. I didn't know or have I read anywhere that it was against any law to buy parts.

Ok but, the question remains, why doesn't he acquire this compressor? If he's too busy to find it, what makes you think, he'll have time to install it?

[ga-hvac-tech]

FYI - I did mention before that "I'm" not installing it. The "guy on the side" is a licensed contractor - a very busy one. I'm just trying to buy a mechanical part and get it here for him to install. I didn't know or have I read anywhere that it was against any law to buy parts.

I do not know what the laws are in VA; but here in GA few supply houses will sell to you unless you are licensed.

Some say it is state law they cannot, I have never looked it up.

The reason for this is to keep folks that do not know how to handle refrigerants from venting it into the air.

Your 'tech' will be able to find the parts. If he/she is not experienced enough to do that, you would be better off with a more experienced tech.

[karsthuntr]

Couple of things. There really isn't a local distributer here only dealer/installers and they want all the biz (small town stuff). The other problem is that since they are the only game in town, they can set their own prices for the install *IF* they grant you permission to purchase from them w/o them installing it. I've had them do work before, they totally ripped me off and didn't correct the problem that I called for.



There is a dist. for the product less than an hour from your location and they deliver to your area twice a week.

[the dangling wrangler]

This is a BS story. That is all.

[BamaCool]

:confused:
Easy there Bama...

You guys are the ones that cleaned out all the ammunition at the Walmarts when you heard the Russians had invaded GA... you figured they were just a few miles away... :eek::p:rolleyes::cool::D

But since you brought it up........Never did hear about those commies crossing the state line, did ya ?:p

[ga-hvac-tech]

:confused:

But since you brought it up........Never did hear about those commies crossing the state line, did ya ?:p

Naah, we took care of business here... :cool:

For all the goofy things a big city government does... there are a lot of folks here that would roll up their sleeves and resolve things... ;)

[Maa2p]

There is a dist. for the product less than an hour from your location and they deliver to your area twice a week.

Would that be in Richmond? That is where the "guy on the side technician" works his day job as a HVAC tech. The problem I have with him is the constant calling and reminding him to order the part while I sit without a/c for days. It's very frustrating - I've used companies before, I have several friends who work HVAC and have told me the companies are expensive for what they do.

In VA there is no law about purchasing the parts. There is appropriate laws pertaining to the refrigerant and EPA stuff when installing. The mechanical part is useless alone on its own.

[BamaCool]

You just need to bite the bullet on this one. Call a respectable contractor, let him make a little money (You have no idea how much money it costs to be in this business). He's not making as much as you think. Then you will have recourse if you have a problem. If you use a "guy" on the side, and have a problem, you're just stuck.

[the dangling wrangler]

Would that be in Richmond? That is where the "guy on the side technician" works his day job as a HVAC tech. The problem I have with him is the constant calling and reminding him to order the part while I sit without a/c for days. It's very frustrating - I've used companies before, I have several friends who work HVAC and have told me the companies are expensive for what they do.

In VA there is no law about purchasing the parts. There is appropriate laws pertaining to the refrigerant and EPA stuff when installing. The mechanical part is useless alone on its own.

E-Bay is your friend. If "Side Job Sal" has to be constantly reminded to get the parts, he's trying to tell you, in a subtle way, he's not interested. Good Luck.

[ga-hvac-tech]

You just need to bite the bullet on this one. Call a respectable contractor, let him make a little money (You have no idea how much money it costs to be in this business). He's not making as much as you think. Then you will have recourse if you have a problem. If you use a "guy" on the side, and have a problem, you're just stuck.

Bama has a point there:

Lets say you find a compressor on Ebay. Then you have to wait a week for your buddy to install it... Then a week later it does not work... What do you do then? I doubt seriously you will have ANY recourse with Ebay... And if your buddy is as busy as you say; you might have to wait another week to get him out... This could turn into a real mess... :eek:

Honoring warranties is part of the cost of HVAC. The money to pay the service guys to come out and do warranty work has to come from somewhere you know... :)

[the dangling wrangler]

With the cost of replacing a compressor being 2/3 the cost of the of a new unit, why not replace it? A replacement comp., is only going to have a one year warranty, if you get that.

[BamaCool]

Thanks for taking care of those commies before they made it this far. I was ready for them though !:)

[ga-hvac-tech]

Hey DW, send me an Email; addy is in profile, THX!

[the dangling wrangler]

Hey DW, send me an Email; addy is in profile, THX!

Will do. Just stepping out the door to bid on thirty or forty apartments. Hurricane damaged. There might be a Christmas this year, after all. Get back at ya later.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Will do. Just stepping out the door to bid on thirty or forty apartments. Hurricane damaged. There might be a Christmas this year, after all. Get back at ya later.

Go for it Bro! But do not short change yourself... Be sure they will pay, or there might not be a Christmas this year.

I will be in and out myself, and away for the weekend.

[flange]

I wish we as contractors made what both the general public and also the side jobber techs think we make. I saw a guy doing a side job burn down a house because he didnt realize the bushes were dry. When he lit his torch, they ignited before he could even react. No fire ext handy, volunteer fire dept. The good news was he didnt have to worry about a claim on his expensive liability policy.......he didnt have one. The bad news, he lost everything because he had to pay for the house. The couple hunj he would have made on the compressor swap out cost him his home. Remember that when hiring side jobber harry. Oh, and I hope he doesnt get hurt, bec ause he probably also doesn't pay for workers comp, which by the way is one of the highest for our industry. Good luck getting your ac fixed by "your buddy", who has kept you hanging. If he actually knew anything he would know how to get a matched compressor for your unit in two shakes off his cell phone.

[beenthere]

[QUOTE=Maa2p;2011293I have several friends who work HVAC and have told me the companies are expensive for what they do.

.[/QUOTE]

They have no idea how much it cost to get them their weekly paychecks. If they did, they wouldn't say that.

[the dangling wrangler]

Hey DW, send me an Email; addy is in profile, THX!

Check your PM.

[machery]

With the cost of replacing a compressor being 2/3 the cost of the of a new unit, why not replace it? A replacement comp., is only going to have a one year warranty, if you get that.
YES, This is the answer. How old is this unit, I already know that it is a 10 SEER. If it is under warranty, let the pro fix it. YOU will not be able to get the compressor from the rheem distributor, the contractor will. The contractor will have to fill out the warranty paperwork with the bad compressor then submit both peices. Then he will have to wait till rheem decides if they want to honor the warranty before he gets credit back for the bad compressor. Basically, he has to pay for the compressor, then wait for the credit back later after the bad one is turned in. Rheem is a PITA to deal with for warranties.
If the unit is out of warranty.....Replace it!....with something better.

[scottsacavsfan]

Would that be in Richmond? That is where the "guy on the side technician" works his day job as a HVAC tech. The problem I have with him is the constant calling and reminding him to order the part while I sit without a/c for days. It's very frustrating - I've used companies before, I have several friends who work HVAC and have told me the companies are expensive for what they do.

In VA there is no law about purchasing the parts. There is appropriate laws pertaining to the refrigerant and EPA stuff when installing. The mechanical part is useless alone on its own.

The question you should be asking
Is the compressor really dead?:confused:
And Who/What killed it?:confused:

Maybe "your Buddys" are not responding because they dont know whats really wrong or they are guilty of killing it.:rolleyes:

[the dangling wrangler]

Believe it or not, we're trying to help you. You're really wasting your money, trying to do this your way. Everyone that's replied, has the same thoughts, replace that dinosaur. You won't be sorry. If you insist on your way, you might give Craig's List a shot. You must like to gamble, I on the other hand, do not. If you were in the Houston area, I'd donate a two ton condenser to you. the odds would be more in your favor.

[karsthuntr]

Would that be in Richmond? That is where the "guy on the side technician" works his day job as a HVAC tech. The problem I have with him is the constant calling and reminding him to order the part while I sit without a/c for days. It's very frustrating - I've used companies before, I have several friends who work HVAC and have told me the companies are expensive for what they do.

In VA there is no law about purchasing the parts. There is appropriate laws pertaining to the refrigerant and EPA stuff when installing. The mechanical part is useless alone on its own.
Call a real contractor and let them install comp. in your unit. You can call me (info is in my profile) unless the unit is over 10 years old, I won't replace a comp. on a 10 year old unit with no personal history with the system.

If you do find a comp. don't bother calling me, I will not install it. Even if I did install it you would have absolutely no warranty from me.

[Maa2p]

As it turns out, my guy's pressure guages were bad. My Compressor is doing what it's supposed to. He found out today after doing a new install at his regular job that they were broke and switched to another set of guages.

My unit is 12 years old. We do plan on replacing the old unit with a 2.5 or 3 ton when we start construction on an addition to the house. We were trying to limp this old one along until we started construction in a couple months.

[the dangling wrangler]

As it turns out, my guy's pressure guages were bad. My Compressor is doing what it's supposed to. He found out today after doing a new install at his regular job that they were broke and switched to another set of guages.


That just dosen't sound right.

[beenthere]

That just dosen't sound right.
And this same guy is going to install the new system. :D

[BamaCool]

As it turns out, my guy's pressure guages were bad. My Compressor is doing what it's supposed to. He found out today after doing a new install at his regular job that they were broke and switched to another set of guages.

My unit is 12 years old. We do plan on replacing the old unit with a 2.5 or 3 ton when we start construction on an addition to the house. We were trying to limp this old one along until we started construction in a couple months.

You are not only asking for trouble, you're begging for it! Dump this dude and get somebody that knows what the hell they're doing!
And another thing......He can't find a compressor that's available almost anywhere, but he won't have any problem finding a whole new unit for you?????

[the dangling wrangler]

And this same guy is going to install the new system. :D

That's what I'm thinking. I noticed this "guy" has a full time job so, in fact he isn't a contractor. No surprize there, really. I'm positive the duct will handle the new unit...............Not! I'm pretty sure, there's other ways to verify that the compressor was working, without a set of guages. Hackery at it's finest. You get what you pay for, so, he's gotten very little.

[scottsacavsfan]

As it turns out, my guy's pressure guages were bad. My Compressor is doing what it's supposed to. He found out today after doing a new install at his regular job that they were broke and switched to another set of guages.

My unit is 12 years old. We do plan on replacing the old unit with a 2.5 or 3 ton when we start construction on an addition to the house. We were trying to limp this old one along until we started construction in a couple months.

REST MY CASE:eek:
LM(mf)AO:rolleyes::D:rolleyes::D:rolleyes:

[the dangling wrangler]

As it turns out, my guy's pressure guages were bad. My Compressor is doing what it's supposed to.

In this guys defense, I've had that happen to me. It actually ended up being one of the hose extensions (with the ball valve) that was the problem. I don't think I've ever had a guage go bad, except for the compound guage wouldn't hold in a vacuum, pressurized, OK. So, it can happen.

[m-cooling]

Since when does a person need a license just to purchase a part? What's the big secret about selling a part? I'm not going to install it - I want to just find one and not get ripped off!

:mad:dumbass