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Huskers21
10-03-2008, 11:18 AM
I am in the process of replacing my split system HVAC equipment for an 1800 SF, three-level townhouse in the Washington DC area. Several local contractors have inspected the original system (20 yrs old, 2-ton A/C), discussed my options and provided recommendations for me to review. I have narrowed the proposals down to 2 systems based on comfort level/reputation of each contractor, equipment performance, NCI certified installers and great advice from this forum.

Although I would be satisfied with either contractor and the price/warranties are essentially the same, I was hoping to get your professional opinions as to which system would be the better purchase in terms of overall performance and energy efficiency.

OPTION 1:
A/C Unit: Trane XL15i (4TTX5030A1000A) *single phase
Furnace: Trane XV-80 (TUD080R9V3K)
Coil: Trane AlumaTuff (4TXCB031BC3HCA)
Humidifier: Trane THUMD300
T-Stat: Honeywell VisionPro IAQ

OPTION 2:
A/C Unit: Carrier Infinity 24ANA7 (24ANA724A003) *two stage
Furnace: Carrier Infinity 58CVA (58CVA070-1-12)
Coil: Carrier (CNPVP024 14")
Humidifier: Honeywell HE365
T-Stat: Carrier Infinity (SYSTXCCUID01)

No “Manual J” calculation was performed by any of the contractors although they did ask if any exterior changes have occurred since the original heat load was documented during the county permit process. With no envelope changes, I presume that the original heat load is acceptable for their use. Given that my current system is sized for 2.0 tons of cooling, I questioned the recommendation for 2.5 tons in Option 1 and was told that the increased cooling would benefit the top level of my townhouse which does get warm during the hot summer months and that my ducts were already sized appropriately to accommodate the difference. Would the extra 0.5 tons be a concern for short cycles and decreased humidity control if I went with this recommendation? The other noticeable difference in the A/C unit is the single phase compressor in Option 1 versus the two stage compressor in Option 2. Even though both furnaces have a variable speed blower motor, does the two stage compressor provide a clear advantage?

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.

beenthere
10-03-2008, 12:55 PM
The 2 stage will do more to help with the top floor then over sizing to a 2.5 ton.

Very doubtful your duct system was installed to handle a 2.5 ton A/C.

aircooled53
10-03-2008, 04:23 PM
I would agree and I was installing back when that unit was put in, if it's a 2.0 then you have ductwork for a 2.0 ton NOT 2.5 .

The Infinity system you listed is a good match , and will perform well if installed correctly.Look for savings around 45-50% with the Carrier system.:D

Huskers21
10-04-2008, 10:54 PM
The 2 stage will do more to help with the top floor then over sizing to a 2.5 ton.

Very doubtful your duct system was installed to handle a 2.5 ton A/C.

Thanks for the reply. If I were to go with the 2.0 ton A/C models, which of the two systems listed would provide the better performance and efficiency?

rponson
10-04-2008, 11:24 PM
The Carrier Infinity is the best control system on the market. Plus you are getting 2 stage for the same price a single stage. Normally when some is asking for help on equipment like this, they are trying to determine if the 2 stage is worth the extra money. If the pricees are the same this dicesion is easy. Get the Infinity

Huskers21
10-05-2008, 12:11 AM
The Carrier Infinity is the best control system on the market. Plus you are getting 2 stage for the same price a single stage. Normally when some is asking for help on equipment like this, they are trying to determine if the 2 stage is worth the extra money. If the pricees are the same this dicesion is easy. Get the Infinity

I appreciate the quick reply RPONSON. I keep hearing that the all-alumininum coil offered with the Trane system (4TXCB031BC3HCA) resists corrosion and will last much longer than the competitor's coil (CNPVP024 14") and wanted to know if that should be a concern with the Carrier system.

rponson
10-05-2008, 12:29 AM
Make sure you get the "Tin Plated" coil. All manufacturers have had coorosion issues. I have been installing the "Tin Plated" for several years and it has stopped the coorosion issues. I am attaching an article. it is printed by Carrier but it discusses the industry problems. There is no evidence that the alluminum is any better thad the Tin Plating don't let them BS you

beenthere
10-05-2008, 09:51 PM
The Carrier 2 stage probably will do a better job of balancing the temps out.