We need more lipstick for all these pigs....

[zzonko]

Left or Right, these parasites are all cut from the same rotten moth-eaten cloth and are bringing our great Country to the dustbin of history. We need real leaders that will bring real solutions to America.

McCain......AMNESTY WITH TEDDY "PHELPS" KENNEDY, KEATING 5...ect.
Obama.......WHO KNOWS..SOCIALIST

McCain
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w)

Cheney
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwVEeq7JiQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwVEeq7JiQ)

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." – John McCain, in reference to Hillary Clinton's health care plan, last year.

"George Bush has given a mission to General Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig." – Barack Obama, last year.

"Or as we say out in our home state of Wyoming, you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, but it's still a pig." – Dick Cheney, 2004.

"It's all about withdrawal or not withdrawal, okay? I mean that's what it's all about. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." – John McCain, last year.

"You can put lipstick and earrings on a hog and call it Monique, but it's still a pig." – Texas Gov. Ann Richards.

"John Kerry tries to put a bunch of fancy, fancy talk...but there is nothing you can do to really -- to really obscure that record. You can try, though. And in Wyoming, we've got a saying for what it is when you keep trying to make something that's not so good look good, we call it putting lipstick on a pig." – Lynne Cheney, 2004.

[Remodeltdt01]

Yes, but your pig caller is evil, my pig caller is just. :rolleyes:

[razorwit]

If you're that disgruntled, with your wealth of integrity, maybe you should consider running for office yourself.:rolleyes:

[zzonko]

If you're that disgruntled, with your wealth of integrity, maybe you should consider running for office yourself.:rolleyes:

Being unsatisfied with leaders who have interests other than those of the people hardly qualifies one as "disgruntled".

I am firmly starting to beleive what ole Tom J said about a "revolution every generation"

And thank you for the compliment as I do pride myself on my integrity.:D

[corny]

Its sad...its pathetic.... that the election of the president of the US has boiled down to who can throw out the best zingers....

[glennac]

Its sad...its pathetic.... that the election of the president of the US has boiled down to who can throw out the best zingers....

Well I guess that leaves you out corny. I haven't heard of a good zinger from you in some time. I guess that's becasuse you a Dem and you all don't have good humor.:)

[tunnel_rat]

Its sad...its pathetic.... that the election of the president of the US has boiled down to who can throw out the best zingers....

It's the audience they play to. They assume you all are products of gov't schools.....:p

[royc]

Well I guess that leaves you out corny. I haven't heard of a good zinger from you in some time. I guess that's becasuse you a Dem and you all don't have good humor.:)

roflmao..good one Glen, and here I thought you were an old grumpy with no humor....

Roy

[chaard]

This whole lipstick thing has been beat to death. I don't care what Obama said. He just ripped some more lines from other politicians.:rolleyes:

[me75006]

Know as mud-slinging. Been around since the start of politics.
That said, lets ask a Pig if it likes lipstick. Does the pig hold still while the lipstick is applied? How many politicians does it take to put lipstick on a pig anyway? Does the left advocate that both boors along with sows wear lipstick? Do we give a smelly dead fish wrapped in newspaper to each pig ?
Is any of this Kosher ?

[acmanko]

I'm more concerned with giving a painted lady ,that can't control their husband or children, a position of power.

[chaard]

I'm more concerned with giving a painted lady ,that can't control their husband or children, a position of power.




Well, then it's a good thing Hilary isn't the Dem. Pres. Nominee.

[k-fridge]

can't control their husband or children, a position of power.

Kinda like

-Bush girls drinking while underage
-Kerry's daughter showing her nipples in public
-Gore's son getting busted for drugs
-Ford's wife being an alcoholic
-Hillary having Vince Foster knocked off
-Carter's brother being a public drunk
-Hillary's brother being in trouble with the law

Is that the kind of control over family you're referring to?

How do you feel about Obama's brother living in a poverty stricken town in Kenya where he has to physically defend himself? Is that the kind of family values you prefer in our leader?

[chaard]

Kinda like

-Bush girls drinking while underage
-Kerry's daughter showing her nipples in public
-Gore's son getting busted for drugs
-Ford's wife being an alcoholic
-Hillary having Vince Foster knocked off
-Carter's brother being a public drunk
-Hillary's brother being in trouble with the law

Is that the kind of control over family you're referring to?

How do you feel about Obama's brother living in a poverty stricken town in Kenya where he has to physically defend himself? Is that the kind of family values you prefer in our leader?

Don't forget Roger Clinton.

[chaard]

I'm more concerned with giving a painted lady ,that can't control their husband or children, a position of power.


Oh, so you don't want leaders, you want control freaks.

[acmanko]

Kinda like

-Bush girls drinking while underage
-Kerry's daughter showing her nipples in public
-Gore's son getting busted for drugs
-Ford's wife being an alcoholic
-Hillary having Vince Foster knocked off
-Carter's brother being a public drunk
-Hillary's brother being in trouble with the law

Is that the kind of control over family you're referring to?

How do you feel about Obama's brother living in a poverty stricken town in Kenya where he has to physically defend himself? Is that the kind of family values you prefer in our leader?
all the above, that handles the left, now lets see how good you are at the right.

[acmanko]

the poor will always be with us, a good example would be the Palin's. except the painted lady took to politics and now makes a living off taxpayer money, and as a great philosopher said. "Never trust a person who lives off taxpayers money"

[razorwit]

Hey donor, it's the taxpayers that voted her into office and approve of her performance to the tune of about 80%.

Her reference was to the people who live off the government with no intention of ever supporting themselves or their families.

[k-fridge]

all the above, that handles the left, now lets see how good you are at the right.
I listed the Bush girls and Ford's wife.

[razorwit]

Being unsatisfied with leaders who have interests other than those of the people hardly qualifies one as "disgruntled".
That's assuming you know the intent of each and every leader we elect and of course...YOU DON'T.
That definitely puts you in the category of a chronic complainer who assumes he knows the mindset of the leaders we elect in this country...and once again...YOU DON'T.


I am firmly starting to beleive what ole Tom J said about a "revolution every generation"
Your "beliefs" do not necessitate fact.


And thank you for the compliment as I do pride myself on my integrity.:D
No problem. I don't doubt your integrity and would not attempt to question it without facts that would indicate otherwise.
Maybe you should try to balance your criticisms and questions about others integrity with the same type of criteria.

[razorwit]

I listed the Bush girls and Ford's wife.

He's googling any possible others you may have left out and trying to figure out his left from his right.:D

[k-fridge]

He's googling any possible others you may have left out and trying to figure out his left from his right.:D
He has the same problem when putting his shoes on. :p

[Remodeltdt01]

all the above, that handles the left, now lets see how good you are at the right.


How about Dick Cheney's gay daughter?

(not that there's anything wrong with that) ;)

[hvacker]

America will come to terms with the fact the Queen has no clothes.
So empty their keeping her from the press until like in Animal Farm " The sheep learn a new song"
Empty. Empty. And just in passing how would a soccer mom of 5 is it, run this country? Not very well I think.
I've heard the chances are 1 in 3 that any president won't finish their first term. Now that's scary. More so than Obama, or Paul, or maybe even Nader.

If any of you know Alaska you would also know if a person can field dress a moose that's enough to get 80% of any vote there. That's just AK. I had an ex that lived there.

[razorwit]

She has an 80% favorable rating as governor simply because she can field dress a moose?:confused::rolleyes:

Small wonder your ex is your ex.:D

[me75006]

so we don't get too far of topic, lol...

[mrs reb77]

I've heard the chances are 1 in 3 that any president won't finish their first term. Now that's scary. More so than Obama, or Paul, or maybe even Nader.



Huh? And where do you 'hear' that?
1 in 3

G.W.Bush (x2)
W.J. Clinton (x2)
G.H.W. Bush
Ronald Reagan (x2)
Jimmy Carter

[razorwit]

Not even close to 33%.


I've "heard" that the moon is made of green cheese too.:rolleyes:

[scrogdog]

In the history of the United States, the vice-president had to take the reigns precisely 9 times. They are as follows;

1. John Tyler (William Harrison died)
2. Millard Fillmore (Zachary Taylor died)
3. Andrew Johnson (Lincoln assasinated)
4. Chester A Arthur (Garfield assassinated)
5. Theodore Roosevelt (McKinley assassinated)
6. Calvin Coolidge (Harding died)
7. Harry Truman (Roosevelt (FDR) died)
8. Lyndon Johnson (Kennedy assassinated)
9. Gerald Ford (Nixon Resigned)

We are on the 43rd president, so the simple math says that the VP has had to take over 19.56% of the time. Call it 20%.

But simple math is not the way that statisticians calculate the actual probability. Various elements would give weight to the equation one way or the other, such as McCain’s age. Actually, some elements could add and some could take away – leaving a sort of “cumlative” result.

Given that, the 1 in 3 number doesn’t seem all that far off. Of course, to truly understand and agree with the number, we’d need to see exactly how it was formulated.

[mrs reb77]

Ah, but of those dieing in office in the last one hundred years neither William McKinley nor FDR were in their first term.

That knocks down on the 'won't finish their first term' part. Of the other four from the previous 100 or so years, one of them (Lincoln) wasn't in his first term either.

So, out of the 8 that died in office, only 5 were in their first term.

[mrs reb77]

And, Ole Tricky Dick had been elected to his second term when he resigned.

[scrogdog]

I agree that probability would be weighted to a lower number taking two term presidents in to account.

But there may be more factors than either of us are thinking of. That's why it would be useful to see how the number was arrived at.

We could either disagree or agree on the items and the weight given. Or, we might say, yeah, I never thought of that.

Hard to say without the formula.

Although, I will say that I didn't expect even the raw math to produce a number that high.

[hvacker]

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=253B8DF9-18FE-70B2-A8961A86DC5B16C7

[razorwit]

A 1 in 3 chance that a 72 year old man will not reach the age of 80. Fair enough.

The numbers do not take any genetic predisposition into account and are based on average life expectancy only.
One need only to look at McCains mother and McCain himself to note that there are alot of variables to consider.;)

It's a moot point as far as I'm concerned because I believe Palin would be a much better VP than Biden....or Obama for that matter.

[mrs reb77]

Well, I will admit that I read that quickly but I didn't see where 1 in 3 presidents won't survive their first term?? Which is what you had posted and we were commenting upon.

I does state : It’s a macabre point to raise on the night when Palin will speak to the convention here — but a look at the actuarial tables insurance companies use to evaluate customers shows that it’s not an irrelevant one. According to these statistics, there is a roughly 1 in 3 chance that a 72-year-old man will not reach the age of 80, which is how old McCain would be at the end of a second presidential term. And that doesn’t factor in individual medical history, such as McCain’s battles with potentially lethal skin cancer.

Which isn't the same thing at all. :confused:

[razorwit]

Well, I will admit that I read that quickly but I didn't see where 1 in 3 presidents won't survive their first term?? Which is what you had posted and we were commenting upon.

I does state : It’s a macabre point to raise on the night when Palin will speak to the convention here — but a look at the actuarial tables insurance companies use to evaluate customers shows that it’s not an irrelevant one. According to these statistics, there is a roughly 1 in 3 chance that a 72-year-old man will not reach the age of 80, which is how old McCain would be at the end of a second presidential term. And that doesn’t factor in individual medical history, such as McCain’s battles with potentially lethal skin cancer.

Which isn't the same thing at all. :confused:

EXACTLY. Another distortion.:rolleyes:

[acmanko]

I listed the Bush girls and Ford's wife. exactly, now say something about the right.

[chaard]

In the history of the United States, the vice-president had to take the reigns precisely 9 times. They are as follows;

1. John Tyler (William Harrison died)
2. Millard Fillmore (Zachary Taylor died)
3. Andrew Johnson (Lincoln assasinated)
4. Chester A Arthur (Garfield assassinated)
5. Theodore Roosevelt (McKinley assassinated)
6. Calvin Coolidge (Harding died)
7. Harry Truman (Roosevelt (FDR) died)
8. Lyndon Johnson (Kennedy assassinated)
9. Gerald Ford (Nixon Resigned)

We are on the 43rd president, so the simple math says that the VP has had to take over 19.56% of the time. Call it 20%.

But simple math is not the way that statisticians calculate the actual probability. Various elements would give weight to the equation one way or the other, such as McCain’s age. Actually, some elements could add and some could take away – leaving a sort of “cumlative” result.

Given that, the 1 in 3 number doesn’t seem all that far off. Of course, to truly understand and agree with the number, we’d need to see exactly how it was formulated.

I think he was quoting Matt Damon, The Political Scholar.:rolleyes:

[glennac]

the poor will always be with us, a good example would be the Palin's. except the painted lady took to politics and now makes a living off taxpayer money, and as a great philosopher said. "Never trust a person who lives off taxpayers money"

But crooked communist Democrats are just fine and go vote for them before you vote for a Republican who is an American and not a traitor.

[acmanko]

But crooked communist Democrats are just fine and go vote for them before you vote for a Republican who is an American and not a traitor.no, no they are not, but McCarthy proved there are no communists in the Democrat party.:rolleyes:

[glennac]

no, no they are not, but McCarthy proved there are no communists in the Democrat party.:rolleyes:

BS he sure did but the commie press crucified him for it. Our State Dept was loaded and that is what caused China to go Red because they refused to give Nationalist China the aid that Congress had voted for and Chang Ki Shek was forced out by Mao with all the arms he needed from Russia (a lot of them were German MG 42's from WWII just like our M60s today. The Democrats were the ones who defended our State Dept and 60 million Chinese pay for that with their lives.

[hvacker]

But crooked communist Democrats are just fine and go vote for them before you vote for a Republican who is an American and not a traitor.

And a liar, a spin doctor, and a person whose first decision if he should die in office was nothing but a deceitful grab for power.

It's like so many of you forget what you were saying about McCain for the last 9 months. He discusted many here. Too liberal was heard often. Flip floper. Suck up. So what's changed??

And why would anyone except a religious extremest want ol Sarah in that office? A cult member who are well known along with others of that persuasion to take over the USA just like their muslim brothers. Install their form of Christianity and trash many freedoms you are now enjoying.
Their just another form of Rev Wright.
And have I ever been to a church like this. Yup, I have. Nutcases for the most part. Way into power. Often heard the power of God is in our hands. I'm just glad God doesn't agree.

[mrs reb77]

Wow. Hate much? :rolleyes:

[acmanko]

BS he sure did but the commie press crucified him for it. Our State Dept was loaded and that is what caused China to go Red because they refused to give Nationalist China the aid that Congress had voted for and Chang Ki Shek was forced out by Mao with all the arms he needed from Russia (a lot of them were German MG 42's from WWII just like our M60s today. The Democrats were the ones who defended our State Dept and 60 million Chinese pay for that with their lives.
only 2 Presidents have been to Communist China. RED RePublican Nixon and Red RePublican Bush and Nixoon had Taiwan relegated to a teeritory of Mainland China

and you should get a white hoodie on superman avatar. then he'll look like the French Flag.

[glennac]

only 2 Presidents have been to Communist China. RED RePublican Nixon and Red RePublican Bush and Nixoon had Taiwan relegated to a teeritory of Mainland China

and you should get a white hoodie on superman avatar. then he'll look like the French Flag.

They didn't cause China to go Red. The Democrats did while Truman was President.

[bootlen]

And a liar, a spin doctor, and a person whose first decision if he should die in office was nothing but a deceitful grab for power.

It's like so many of you forget what you were saying about McCain for the last 9 months. He discusted many here. Too liberal was heard often. Flip floper. Suck up. So what's changed??

And why would anyone except a religious extremest want ol Sarah in that office? A cult member who are well known along with others of that persuasion to take over the USA just like their muslim brothers. Install their form of Christianity and trash many freedoms you are now enjoying.
Their just another form of Rev Wright.
And have I ever been to a church like this. Yup, I have. Nutcases for the most part. Way into power. Often heard the power of God is in our hands. I'm just glad God doesn't agree.

Did you watch Saddleback?

[hvacker]

Did you watch Saddleback?


No. Why would I?

[glennac]

.......and you should get a white hoodie on superman avatar. then he'll look like the French Flag.


Only if I had a rope around your neck.:D:D:D

[bootlen]

No. Why would I?

Well, that explains a lot about you.

Never mind.

[hvacker]

Well, that explains a lot about you.

Never mind.


Because I missed a tv show it says a lot about me. Your joking.
What your comment says about you is you make judgements based on nothing but your own prejudges. But I have come to expect that from evangelicals. In fact from most religious people ( different from spiritual or enlightened.)

[bootlen]

Because I missed a tv show it says a lot about me. Your joking.
What your comment says about you is you make judgements based on nothing but your own prejudges. But I have come to expect that from evangelicals. In fact from most religious people ( different from spiritual or enlightened.)

Check it out on youtube...if you dare.

[hvacker]

Check it out on youtube...if you dare.

What one? There are bunches of hits.