Obama without his teleprompter

[k-fridge]

This almost makes me feel sorry for the guy.

OK, not really. Just shows what he's really got when there's no powerful script to go by.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmE

He's toast in the debates.

[jmac00]

gee, imagine that? He blames babbling on lack of sleep...........

the excuses are starting early:o:confused:

[A/C guy's chick]

gee, imagine that? He blames babbling on lack of sleep...........

the excuses are starting early:o:confused:


No kidding ! I can't wait to see what he does in a debate with John Mc.

[mrs reb77]

He was glad they were fired up though...about what I'm not sure. I'll just bet you he got a huge standing ovation after that as well.

I was once at a Van Halen concert. Edie Van Halen was obviously in no condition to be on the stage. His playing sucked majorly but guess what, the crowd was still in a frenzy. This was in the Savvis Center in St. Louis so the crowd was large. I remember being outside afterwards and everyone complaining about Edie.
They still stayed for the concert though. And clapped, sang along etc....
we did too. Kept hoping it would get better and, after all, we paid for those seats. Didn't tell too many people about either--didn't want them to know how much money we had wasted on a crappy concert!

[Remodeltdt01]

Even so, that's a lot better than the current President with a teleprompter.

[k-fridge]

Even so, that's a lot better than the current President with a teleprompter.
But he's not running again

[Remodeltdt01]

But he's not running again


There are some good laws. :)

[BigJon3475]

Meetbarackobama (http://www.meetbarackobama.com/)

BarackGaffes (http://www.gop.com/BarackGaffes/)

[mrs reb77]

Even so, that's a lot better than the current President with a teleprompter.

I hadn't realized you were actually blind. Sorry.

[Remodeltdt01]

I hadn't realized you were actually blind. Sorry.

You must be completely cut off from the world media or you're walking through life with a closed mind. Too bad.

[ga-hvac-tech]

This almost makes me feel sorry for the guy.

OK, not really. Just shows what he's really got when there's no powerful script to go by.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmE

He's toast in the debates.

Imagine what he would sound like in Moscow arguing (or trying to be diplomatic) with Putin... :eek:

This is not a racial comment, but the boy is not seasoned (experienced) enough in politics to have the gonads to swim with the BIG sharks. Give him about a decade... :p

[jmac00]

You must be completely cut off from the world media or you're walking through life with a closed mind. Too bad.


theres your problem, you keep listening to the media.

The problem with people like you is your hatred for President Bush is so powerful and so extreme, you will accept ANY substitute. Even if the replacement is worse than than the current administration.:rolleyes:

[ga-hvac-tech]

Even so, that's a lot better than the current President with a teleprompter.

Show me a president that has not made some serious mistakes, and been disliked by the time they leave office... and do not say Bill Clinton, because the list of his screw ups is longer than all the power cords in your van... :D

[Remodeltdt01]

theres your problem, you keep listening to the media.

The problem with people like you is your hatred for President Bush is so powerful and so extreme, you will accept ANY substitute. Even if the replacement is worse than than the current administration.:rolleyes:

The problem with people like you is you're so brainwashed by the far right media you cannot see the truth. Face the facts, the current administration will be replaced, and whomever replaces it will be a better administration.

[mrs reb77]

I can see where an asthmatic patient might have some troubling health bills if they're always being given breathalyzers and inhalators....

Many of his speeches don't translate so well to the written word either. I've been reading some of them. Let's see if I can find some of the more....interesting ones. ;)

[Remodeltdt01]

Show me a president that has not made some serious mistakes, and been disliked by the time they leave office... and do not say Bill Clinton, because the list of his screw ups is longer than all the power cords in your van... :D

That puts him in a much better standing than the current administration as I don't have a van. :D

[mrs reb77]

The problem with people like you is you're so brainwashed by the far right media you cannot see the truth. Face the facts, the current administration will be replaced, and whomever replaces it will be a better administration.

Oh my! A prediction!

Wait just a minute there....golly there WILL be a new administration cause it's an election year!
You get a cookie!
Danged ole right wing media would have never let on to us ignorant fools that there was an election this year. We really need to keep up. :rolleyes:

[mrs reb77]

Hold it! Another news flash!
Bush isn't running! He can't! Oh my what will we do???!!! :eek::eek::eek:


Oh woe is us....:rolleyes:

[Remodeltdt01]

Oh my! A prediction!

Wait just a minute there....golly there WILL be a new administration cause it's an election year!
You get a cookie!
Danged ole right wing media would have never let on to us ignorant fools that there was an election this year. We really need to keep up. :rolleyes:

Look like my post was simple enough.

[Remodeltdt01]

Hold it! Another news flash!
Bush isn't running! He can't! Oh my what will we do???!!! :eek::eek::eek:


Oh woe is us....:rolleyes:

Aren't revelations wonderful, no matter how big they are?

[A/C guy's chick]

now , now lets not let this thread get squashed like a thread I was in with M-cooling, The monitors are watching... :0

[jmac00]

. Face the facts, the current administration will be replaced, and whomever replaces it will be a better administration.

Oh good lord? did someone drop you on your head when you born? if you think Yomomma is going to be better you should just open you wallet and send Yomomma all your money right now because our taxes are about to sky rocket

Yomomma will take this country from an offensive country to a completely defensive country, ask Jimmy carter how that strategy worked out. He turned out to be the weakest pussy president ever and our taxes sky rocketed under his admistration

And if Yomomma has his way, it will be the same thing. lets save all of us sometime and money and send Yomomma right into the habitat for humanity program.

[Remodeltdt01]

Oh good lord? did someone drop you on your head when you born? if you think Yomomma is going to be better you should just open you wallet and send Yomomma all your money right now because our taxes are about to sky rocket

Yomomma will take this country from an offensive country to a completely defensive country, ask Jimmy carter how that strategy worked out. He turned out to be the weakest pussy president ever and our taxes sky rocketed under his admistration

And if Yomomma has his way, it will be the same thing. lets save all of us sometime and money and send Yomomma right into the habitat for humanity program.

My mother is dead.
The next administration will be better than the last.

BTW - It's poor form to change another's post when you're quoting them.

[ga-hvac-tech]

That puts him in a much better standing than the current administration as I don't have a van. :D

If you do not have an install or service van, what are you doing posting on an HVAC forum?

I am not slamming you personally, I will leave that to folks more talented than I; but in answering the van issue and sidestepping the president question, the behavior is similar to numerous liberals that have come and gone from this board. They all say the same things, and they all leave when nobody will pay attention to them anymore... kinda like children looking for cookie crumbs... :cool:

[k-fridge]

Remodeltdt01 (http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/member.php?u=80706) is connected with the industry.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Remodeltdt01 (http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/member.php?u=80706) is connected with the industry.

My apologies, after reading the profile, I though we had another non-HVAC pro hanging around for entertainment (like some others over the years).

I still would like to hear the person's answer to the question about a president that was liked as much exiting the white house as when they entered...

[Remodeltdt01]

My apologies, after reading the profile, I though we had another non-HVAC pro hanging around for entertainment (like some others over the years).

I still would like to hear the person's answer to the question about a president that was liked as much exiting the white house as when they entered...


IIRC, Kennedy was liked more on exiting than when he was elected.


:eek: he was a liberal democrat!

[ga-hvac-tech]

IIRC, Kennedy was liked more on exiting than when he was elected.


:eek: he was a liberal democrat!

If you are speaking of JFK, I think his popularity kinda went sour, given the way he exited the white house... :eek:

Just for fun: Why was JFK shot?

[k-fridge]

IIRC, Kennedy was liked more on exiting than when he was elected.


:eek: he was a liberal democrat!

Yeah but he had to die to get that kind of ratings. Had he lived and completed his term, I doubt history would have been so kind to him.

Also, Kennedy was a social liberal, but pretty conservative from a fiscal standpoint. Actually he was more of a fiscal conservative than most members of either party these days. That shows how fiscally irresponsible we've become.

[Remodeltdt01]

If you are speaking of JFK, I think his popularity kinda went sour, given the way he exited the white house... :eek:

Just for fun: Why was JFK shot?

As far as I know, JFK was the only Kennedy we've had as President. As I stated, IIRC his ratings were high when he left.

I don't subscribe to any of the "Internet rewrites" of history (aka conspiracy theories). Kennedy was killed by a gunman in Dallas, Texas. Only the shooter knows for sure why he did it.

[Remodeltdt01]

Yeah but he had to die to get that kind of ratings. Had he lived and completed his term, I doubt history would have been so kind to him.

Also, Kennedy was a social liberal, but pretty conservative from a fiscal standpoint. Actually he was more of a fiscal conservative than most members of either party these days. That shows how fiscally irresponsible we've become.

I agree, his ratings would have gone down over his term. It happens to all Presidents. Maybe it's because we, the American public, seem to want our leaders to be more than they are. They're politicians, and almost by definition, that means compromised. They're humans, and we all make mistakes. After a few years we see that they're just people like we are, and their ratings go down.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Well, it is easy to suggest that knowledge one does not posses is conspiracy theory. Allows one to save face if they have not done their due dillegence in research. I hope for your sake you are not invested heavily in the markets, you will be parted from your $$$.

If one does enough research, one will find that a long time ago the US$ was backed with gold and silver at a fixed exchange rate. What is significant about this is that it keeps values of all kinds of things constant (in other words, with a fixed gold standard there is almost no price inflation).

After WW2, the US sold off some of it's gold and sliver (illegally if one carefully studies the constitution). Then the US dollars (paper money with only implied value) stopped saying redeemable in gold/silver, and simply said FRN (federal reserve note).

JFK threatened the banking community with reversing this trend, and putting the USA back on the gold standard. Many bankers would have had balance sheet problems... Sooo... the rest is history.

There are many books out there which have been in print for decades that will exhaustively document this. My first suggestion is; The Creature From Jekyll Island.

IMO, one needs to be a student of history to understand how crooked politicians really are. Otherwise, they are the pawns of power brokers (even though they THINK--incorrectly that is--they are getting something).

FOOLS imo.

[ga-hvac-tech]

I agree, his ratings would have gone down over his term. It happens to all Presidents. Maybe it's because we, the American public, seem to want our leaders to be more than they are. They're politicians, and almost by definition, that means compromised. They're humans, and we all make mistakes. After a few years we see that they're just people like we are, and their ratings go down.

I am not arguing with you, actually I agree. I would like to carry this thougth on a step or two farther:

I think we have expectations of a politician that are not realistic. And when these expectations are not met, we go off thinking the next guy will be able to meet those 'perfect' expectations... never will happen IMO.

What we subtly set ourselves up for IMO is the media circus feeding us all kinds of lies in the form of 'this time it will be different'... And the politicians can feed this stream of hype rather than be held accountable for who they are and what they can and will do.

I am NOT one that insists on a FAR right conservative every time... rather someone a little to the right of the center. BUT; I want accountability, experience, wisdom, and most important maturity (maturity comes from the other items). Those qualities are just not in either of the Dem candidates. 'W' Bush was/is lacking a little; but the current Dem's are not even on the scale.

[mrs reb77]

Well, if we're taking into account President that didn't finish out a term and leave (after they either couldn't be or weren't re-elected) I would like to put forth that William Henry Harrison was probably just as well liked at the start of his term as when he 'left office'.
Since he died 1 month into that term and was only recently elected, I doubt his numbers would have changed much.

[tunnel_rat]

Excuse me.....Is this the thread about Obama's inability to speak w/o a teleprompter?


Ever see a marionette with its' strings cut...???:D

If not, now you know what happens.

[mrs reb77]

He can speak without it...it just isn't pretty :D

[Remodeltdt01]

I am not arguing with you, actually I agree. I would like to carry this thougth on a step or two farther:

I think we have expectations of a politician that are not realistic. And when these expectations are not met, we go off thinking the next guy will be able to meet those 'perfect' expectations... never will happen IMO.

What we subtly set ourselves up for IMO is the media circus feeding us all kinds of lies in the form of 'this time it will be different'... And the politicians can feed this stream of hype rather than be held accountable for who they are and what they can and will do.

I am NOT one that insists on a FAR right conservative every time... rather someone a little to the right of the center. BUT; I want accountability, experience, wisdom, and most important maturity (maturity comes from the other items). Those qualities are just not in either of the Dem candidates. 'W' Bush was/is lacking a little; but the current Dem's are not even on the scale.


One of the problems with our system comes before the election. The media feeds all kinds of lies about the candidates. This BS is regurgitated here and expanded upon. Typical nonsense like Obama is a blood sucker, will cause the collapse of America, etc is moronic at best and all it does is take attention away from the real issues.

As you and k_fridge noted, we expect to much from out Presidents. Can we really be surprised when the tripe noted above is so widespread?

[jmac00]

BTW - It's poor form to change another's post when you're quoting them.

what are you the internet police? gezz you must be a flaming liberal. You'll post anything to get off topic

and what EXACTLY did I change in your post??? NOTHING.

I simply removed the parts that were not relevant to the response, and highlighted the parts I did want to respond to. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Now getting back on topic: Yomomma must have taken oratory lessons from GWB, which means your going to vote in more of the same :rolleyes:

[Remodeltdt01]

what are you the internet police? gezz you must be a flaming liberal. You'll post anything to get off topic

and what EXACTLY did I change in your post??? NOTHING.

I simply removed the parts that were not relevant to the response, and highlighted the parts I did want to respond to. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Now getting back on topic: Yomomma must have taken oratory lessons from GWB, which means your going to vote in more of the same :rolleyes:


Apparently your reading comprhension is extremely limited.

My mother is dead. Do you know what that means? Try reading a book sometime.

[jmac00]

Apparently your reading comprhension is extremely limited.

My mother is dead. Do you know what that means? Try reading a book sometime.

whats your mother got to do with anything...............:confused::confused::confus ed:

did she teach whammybammy to speak? :confused:

[ga-hvac-tech]

One of the problems with our system comes before the election. The media feeds all kinds of lies about the candidates. This BS is regurgitated here and expanded upon. Typical nonsense like Obama is a blood sucker, will cause the collapse of America, etc is moronic at best and all it does is take attention away from the real issues.

As you and k_fridge noted, we expect to much from out Presidents. Can we really be surprised when the tripe noted above is so widespread?

You know, when the verbal sparring is over...

Most of the time folks to the left of center and folks to the right of center (not particularly flaming liberals or hard core conservatives) tend to want similar things. A safe place to live, work, and enjoy life.

I think where we differ is whether the government should be the leader or the follower. What I mean is the discussion of whether the government should provide things and we just take, or if we should take care of ourselves and the government step in only when asked to straighten out a wrong. And with this discussion comes the other discussion of how much one can trust government (IMO not as far as one can spit).

[Remodeltdt01]

whats your mother got to do with anything...............:confused::confused::confus ed:

did she teach whammybammy to speak? :confused:

I imagine this is what it's like to talk to a box full of rocks. Entertaining for a minute, then boredom.

And this is really boring.

[Remodeltdt01]

You know, when the verbal sparring is over...

Most of the time folks to the left of center and folks to the right of center (not particularly flaming liberals or hard core conservatives) tend to want similar things. A safe place to live, work, and enjoy life.

I think where we differ is whether the government should be the leader or the follower. What I mean is the discussion of whether the government should provide things and we just take, or if we should take care of ourselves and the government step in only when asked to straighten out a wrong. And with this discussion comes the other discussion of how much one can trust government (IMO not as far as one can spit).


I agree. The question becomes how far should the government be involved. Some prefer essentially none, some more, and some a lot.

I think it depends on the person and the situation. For example - Suppose I decide I want to build a pig farm in my back yard. If the government intrudes to stop me it could be interpreted as an infringement of my rights. I'm not hurting anyone (except for the smell).

Of course if my neighbor decides to build a pig farm in his backyard then I want the government to protect me and stop him(I don't like the smell of pig 5&*!).

[mrs reb77]

Apparently you are the one who is confusing both to yourself and others.

He wasn't talking about your mother or your mammy. He was referring to Obama.

[Remodeltdt01]

Apparently you are the one who is confusing both to yourself and others.

He wasn't talking about your mother or your mammy. He was referring to Obama.

I'm sorry. In my experience, "yomamma" is what the immature use when they're spoiling for a fight. I didn't realize he was trying to be cute. I guess I'm just not up on all this far right do-what-the-karl-roves-program-you-for stuff. :(

[mark beiser]

And with this discussion comes the other discussion of how much one can trust government (IMO not as far as one can spit).

Not even as far as one can spit, if one is standing with their mouth pressed against a wall...

[tunnel_rat]

He can speak without it...it just isn't pretty :D


Yea, It Ummm, well uh it uh, it sure ain't uhhh, nothin' to uh, write ummm home uh about.......:D

[jmac00]

I imagine this is what it's like to talk to a box full of rocks. Entertaining for a minute, then boredom.

And this is really boring.

THIS is what you come up with?? what happen? couldn't think of anything cleaver to say?

what happen, your teleprompter break:rolleyes:

[Remodeltdt01]

THIS is what you come up with?? what happen? couldn't think of anything cleaver to say?

what happen, your teleprompter break:rolleyes:

Sorry, nothing clever. Just true. :(

[jmac00]

Sorry, nothing clever. Just true. :(

speak of dumb as a box of rocks, you never did explain why you dragged your mother into this..........:eek::eek::confused::confused:

[Remodeltdt01]

speak of dumb as a box of rocks, you never did explain why you dragged your mother into this..........:eek::eek::confused::confused:

This is my last response to you in this thread (so have at it).

Read my response to 77.

[jmac00]

This is my last response to you in this thread (so have at it).

Read my response to 77.


very witty for a rock:rolleyes:

by-by

[RoBoTeq]

My mother is dead.
The next administration will be better than the last.

BTW - It's poor form to change another's post when you're quoting them.
And it's just idiocy to change every thread you post on to promote whatever inane thought you had at the moment. Do you even have the capability to discuss what is being discussed or do you just have not comprehension ability whatsoever?

The presidential candidates are Obama and McCain. Obama's innability to maintain a thought is what is being discussed. There are many other instances of Obama's not being able to stay on track to the point of disputing what is documented that he has previously stated or written.

Do you have an opinion on Obama's ability to stay on track?

[tunnel_rat]

Apparently his train of thought has derailed somewhere between San Jose and Valhallah..........

[RoBoTeq]

My apologies, after reading the profile, I though we had another non-HVAC pro hanging around for entertainment (like some others over the years).

I still would like to hear the person's answer to the question about a president that was liked as much exiting the white house as when they entered...
k_fridge keeps saying that remold is connected with the HVAC industry but there has never been anything posted or anything in remold's profile to indicate as such. Since k_fridge has access to more information then we have I have no reason to doubt that remold is "connected" to the HVAC industry, just not in a way that would make remold eligible for Pro status. Maybe remold writes DIY manuals:rolleyes:

[RoBoTeq]

IIRC, Kennedy was liked more on exiting than when he was elected.


:eek: he was a liberal democrat!
Well, in that case, I promise if you leave here the same way President Kennedy left office that I will like you better exiting then when you joined;)

[jmac00]

And it's just idiocy to change every thread you post on to promote whatever inane thought you had at the moment. Do you even have the capability to discuss what is being discussed or do you just have not comprehension ability whatsoever?

The presidential candidates are Obama and McCain. Obama's innability to maintain a thought is what is being discussed. There are many other instances of Obama's not being able to stay on track to the point of disputing what is documented that he has previously stated or written.

Do you have an opinion on Obama's ability to stay on track?

the chump never did answer was to why he brought his mother into this? :confused:

[RoBoTeq]

Apparently your reading comprhension is extremely limited.

My mother is dead. Do you know what that means? Try reading a book sometime.
What does your dead mother or jmac's literary abilities have to do with the subject of this thread?

My dad is dead, my sister is dead and I am dying......so what? Obama's not being able to stay on track is the subject. Your not being able to stay on track is just boring and a waste of time.

[tunnel_rat]

k_Maybe remold writes DIY manuals:rolleyes:


That's it! I saw him on Bob Vila that time.......showing how to add return to that undersized system you paid out the a$$ for....... :D With nothing more than plastic bags and cardboard and silver tape.!!! Brilliant, really.

[RoBoTeq]

I'm sorry. In my experience, "yomamma" is what the immature use when they're spoiling for a fight. I didn't realize he was trying to be cute. I guess I'm just not up on all this far right do-what-the-karl-roves-program-you-for stuff. :(
It comes as no surprise that you are experienced in what the immature use as speech icons. Still, nothing you have posted has anything to do with Obama. Do you have an opinion on Barack Hussein Obama's innability to stay on track or not?

[RoBoTeq]

the chump never did answer was to why he brought his mother into this? :confused:
He childishly and egotistically thought that when you referred to Obama as Yomamma that you were referring to his mother.

I don't think he has any idea what threads he posts on are ever about.

[jmac00]

He childishly and egotistically thought that when you referred to Obama as Yomamma that you were referring to his mother.

I don't think he has any idea what threads he posts on are ever about.

an interesting thought? apparently he didn't read any posts, because (as you might know) I always refer to Barak as Yomomma.........

from my first post on this thread to. So thats just a poor excuse for not staying on topic.

speaking of the topic:

I do wonder, During the debate on TV, when asked when life begins, why he said that "answering that question is above my pay grade"

it seems that a pretty straight forward question Yomomma was unwilling to answer? :confused:

[ga-hvac-tech]

I don't think he has any idea what threads he posts on are ever about.

Kinda reminds me of TinkerBell last summer... :D:p;)

[Remodeltdt01]

Maybe you guys should just get a room.

[coolwhip]

Republican-Democrat.....If you go to either convention, you still see the same lobbyists. Both parties are in the hands of corporate America which to me is fascism.

We need an independent 3rd party that cannot be bought, one that will restore power back to the people....where it belongs!

Unfortunately, a candidate such as this would most likely be shot.:mad:

Alice Cooper was correct when he said that " We are all humanary stew".

[Remodeltdt01]

Republican-Democrat.....If you go to either convention, you still see the same lobbyists. Both parties are in the hands of corporate America which to me is fascism.

We need an independent 3rd party that cannot be bought, one that will restore power back to the people....where it belongs!

Unfortunately, a candidate such as this would most likely be shot.:mad:

Alice Cooper was correct when he said that " We are all humanary stew".

There is another party - Libertarian. Unfortunately they don't have the proverbial snowball chance. Both the Democrats and Republicans have stacked the laws such that only two parties (theirs) can effectively run campaigns.

[tonys]

are there any 'rules' on sig-line length / font size???

if not, there should be some limits to jmac and roto-rooter's sig-line, as when they both post on the same thread it takes A LOT of scrolling to get through a few posts.

...come-on man, get real.

[jmac00]

are there any 'rules' on sig-line length / font size???

if not, there should be some limits to jmac and roto-rooter's sig-line, as when they both post on the same thread it takes A LOT of scrolling to get through a few posts.

...come-on man, get real.


oh great, another internet forum cop :confused::rolleyes:

don't like it, start your own forum and make up your own rules:cool:

let me fix that for you

[jmac00]

there, hows that

[Remodeltdt01]

there, hows that

I wouldn't have expected any less. :(

[k-fridge]

are there any 'rules' on sig-line length / font size???

if not, there should be some limits to jmac and roto-rooter's sig-line, as when they both post on the same thread it takes A LOT of scrolling to get through a few posts.


None that I am aware of. However, if a sig line or avatar is causing a site problem the mods or ARPC do have the authority to change it. Personally, I don't see a need for that at this time.

[jmac00]

I wouldn't have expected any less. :(

you must be a liberal, all you do is change the subject and complain:confused::rolleyes:

I suspect if McCain gets in office your head will explode:p

[RoBoTeq]

Republican-Democrat.....If you go to either convention, you still see the same lobbyists. Both parties are in the hands of corporate America which to me is fascism.

We need an independent 3rd party that cannot be bought, one that will restore power back to the people....where it belongs!

Unfortunately, a candidate such as this would most likely be shot.:mad:

Alice Cooper was correct when he said that " We are all humanary stew".
Ahhh, an Alice Cooper fan eh? Ok, that's one saving grace;)

As for the U.S. government being in the hands of corporate America is concerned, all governments are basically businesses themselves. The United States, being a Democratic Republic with mostly Capitalistic leanings, should in some ways be heavily influenced by corporate America. There needs to be a balance between the business side of the U.S. and the social side of the U.S. in order for the U.S. to remain strong.

May we consider that too heavily social leanings just could be a major reason for the loss of jobs in the U.S.? Between increasing labor costs and environmental costs causing U.S. corporations to take their business outside of the U.S., we are in a bit of financial trouble.

[RoBoTeq]

are there any 'rules' on sig-line length / font size???

if not, there should be some limits to jmac and roto-rooter's sig-line, as when they both post on the same thread it takes A LOT of scrolling to get through a few posts.

...come-on man, get real.
Now I've heard it all; sig line envy:rolleyes:

If it is too difficult for you to navigate this forum, you could always stay on the more monitored and controlled InternetInfidel forum.

[Skip 2 my lou]

Now I've heard it all; sig line envy:rolleyes:

If it is too difficult for you to navigate this forum, you could always stay on the more monitored and controlled InternetInfidel forum.

I enjoy the multi-post too. It wouldn't really come into play without that page and 1/2 of blah.

You could be over compensating for some other short coming.:eek:

[oloenneker]

Most of the time folks to the left of center and folks to the right of center (not particularly flaming liberals or hard core conservatives) tend to want similar things. A safe place to live, work, and enjoy life.




Ahh, and history serves right, the only ones that can accomplish that are the "Liberals"...


Thanks to the policies set forth by FDR and his successors, we created a country that became GREAT!!!!


That is, until some crackpot named Reagan came to office, and de-regulated all the hard work that made the USA great. Now, we are suffering the wrath of those ill informed choices.

What kills me, is you numb nuts want to continue creating a two class society by allowing these political subversives to brainwash you guys into voting them into power. I really do not see the allure of letting corporations control government. It is a dangerous thing, to say the least.

Well, maybe you do, because it worked so well for Italy in the 1930's....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/f/f0/20060130081513!Benito_Mussolini_and_Adolf_Hitler.j pg

[glennac]

None that I am aware of. However, if a sig line or avatar is causing a site problem the mods or ARPC do have the authority to change it. Personally, I don't see a need for that at this time.

Ok here is a beef from me on the subject of a lot of space used by some posters. Not the sig line but a yard or so of empty space between a few comments to force folks to scroll down half a page to read there precious comment or "final word". A few posters come to mine on this tactic. No naming names now but I wish they would stop this annoying tactic.

Kind of reminds me of Elizabeth Taylor when she would give one of her famous speeches about how we should all care for the gay aids victims (who knowing had unprotected sodomy and now want the taxpayers to pay for the hedonistic lifestyle). She would pause for a minute or so looking around while the cameras were rolling and then continue her sorry speach. That was and this is aggravating to say the least.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Ahh, and history serves right, the only ones that can accomplish that are the "Liberals"...


Thanks to the policies set forth by FDR and his successors, we created a country that became GREAT!!!!


That is, until some crackpot named Reagan came to office, and de-regulated all the hard work that made the USA great. Now, we are suffering the wrath of those ill informed choices.

What kills me, is you numb nuts want to continue creating a two class society by allowing these political subversives to brainwash you guys into voting them into power. I really do not see the allure of letting corporations control government. It is a dangerous thing, to say the least.

Well, maybe you do, because it worked so well for Italy in the 1930's....

(Picture of Adolf Hitler removed by GA)



Honestly Ollie, I cannot truly understand how you could believe what you posted. FDR screwed up this country worse than almost any president past, present, or possibly future.

But then, right and wrong are in the eyes of the beholder. And what makes this country GREAT is that we are all free to behold what we choose.

I think it better to not address your comments today (I may choose to do so on another day though). Not because I do not have the words or the wisdom to articulate my points, they are there waiting. Honestly there is a part of me that relishes the challenge to prove yet another liberal to be childish, selfish, and immature :p:cool::D (do not take that personally, it was not aimed at you).

And it is not because I fear loosing face or being 'one upped'... IMO that is part of what happens sooner or later to most folks that engage in debate (nobody wins all the debates, regardless if they are right or wrong). Now just for fun; only conservatives are right all the time... LOL

But it is Sunday, and for those of us that worship the Judeo/Christian God, some of us choose to enjoy a day of peace and harmony on Sunday. I spent the day enjoying positive relationships with friends. I think I will defer a lively debate until I have to get back on the treadmill called work... :)

I might respond in a day or two, and I might be too busy to do so. Lets see how the week goes.

Note that GA is NOT conceding defeat or wrongness, only choosing to relinquish his chair at the debate table for a while for other reasons. And as we discussed in another thread; having the last word does not equate to winning a debate.

Have a GREAT one Ollie! And I might mention that of all the liberals, you are one of the few that I enjoy debating. :)

[crackertech]

Can we all agree that ya'll cant keep this thread on track.O.B cant speak
with out a well thought out plan and then only with a tely promp.

[RoBoTeq]

Can we all agree that ya'll cant keep this thread on track.O.B cant speak
with out a well thought out plan and then only with a tely promp.
O.B.? Are we talking about Osama Bin or Barack Obama? I can see getting these two mixed up:p

[ga-hvac-tech]

O.B.? Are we talking about Osama Bin or Barack Obama? I can see getting these two mixed up:p

Good one Robo! I can see a definite amount of similarity between the two also.

[crackertech]

O.B.? Are we talking about Osama Bin or Barack Obama? I can see getting these two mixed up:p

That would be BO..........eeeeeeeeeer OB??? what's the deference.:D

[RoBoTeq]

That would be BO..........eeeeeeeeeer OB??? what's the deference.:D
Well, OB isn't known for smelling as bad as BO is;)

[Wolfer]

No kidding ! I can't wait to see what he does in a debate with John Mc.

Oh yes, I was just saying this the other day.

I cant WAIt for the debates.

[Wolfer]

This is not a racial comment

Whats really sad is that people think they have to say this if they disagree with him.

Your comment was in no way racial. We can laugh at him and comment how much he is not ready for the oval office.

[The Doctor]

Ahh, and history serves right, the only ones that can accomplish that are the "Liberals"...


Thanks to the policies set forth by FDR and his successors, we created a country that became GREAT!!!!


That is, until some crackpot named Reagan came to office, and de-regulated all the hard work that made the USA great. Now, we are suffering the wrath of those ill informed choices.

What kills me, is you numb nuts want to continue creating a two class society by allowing these political subversives to brainwash you guys into voting them into power. I really do not see the allure of letting corporations control government. It is a dangerous thing, to say the least.

Well, maybe you do, because it worked so well for Italy in the 1930's....

Are you on some kind of oxygen deprivation diet?
FDR and his successors, which do include R.M. Nixon, have done more to bankrupt the capital in this country by putting in place a ponzi scheme, and its kissin' cousins the welfare state, and the great society.

Ya know, there is a concept called The Forgotten Man. As a matter of fact, in between your bi-athalons you might want to take a gander into the book by that title from Amity Shlaes. It is a hard read, but makes the point over and over that someone has to pay for all of these pipe dreams on the left.

It sure ain't the public sector that generates the capital to pay for this welfare state.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Are you on some kind of oxygen deprivation diet?
FDR and his successors, which do include R.M. Nixon, have done more to bankrupt the capital in this country by putting in place a ponzi scheme, and its kissin' cousins the welfare state, and the great society.

Ya know, there is a concept called The Forgotten Man. As a matter of fact, in between your bi-athalons you might want to take a gander into the book by that title from Amity Shlaes. It is a hard read, but makes the point over and over that someone has to pay for all of these pipe dreams on the left.

It sure ain't the public sector that generates the capital to pay for this welfare state.

I am not picking on Ollie, actually I kinda enjoy debating with him.

But as I mentioned in a previous post, I am surprised in the shallowness of the belief systems.

At some point, we need to debate this myth that socialism is better than freedom. But not tonight (Sunday the 24th of August), it is just too late.