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RoBoTeq
08-03-2008, 10:00 PM
OK, the fact is that Obama is not "Black", he is in fact "Biracial".
So, if Obama becomes president, will we have to go through this racist crap again when a "real" Black person runs for the presidency? Why is race being injected into this election? The answer must be to propogate Obama's chances of winning because he and the media backing him are the only ones that keep bringing it up.
Obama accuses McCain of trying to scare the American public by noting that Obama does not "look" like the men on U.S. paper money. That is a racist remark from Obama.
The media promoting Obama keep touting that the United States could have it's first "Black" president. Oh goody; now we have the seed sown for radical leftists and Black agitators to riot if Obama does not win because they will claim it was because Obama is Black....which he is not.
So, using the race card, are those who are promoting Obama for the presidency doing everything they can to make the general public afraid to oppose Obama for fear of racial retributions? I think they are.
With having a Democratic Congress, if we elect Obama, the U.S. could very well be looking down the barrel of a revolt from the right when the left just get too far out of hand. The threats of revolution from the left is a constant every election, but they never act on their complaints, they just whine about them. If conservatives become afraid that our government is possibly turning against us, there will be more then rallies in the street and complaining on Oprah.
We need to be very careful. We have a very delicate situation because of the people we have put in place with our government.
BigJon3475
08-03-2008, 10:24 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1
RoBoTeq
08-03-2008, 11:30 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1
Well, if just a small portion of that article is accurate, it depicts Obama clearly as a racist. If not a racist to the degree of turning us against one another, then surely a racist in the sense that he is going to keep Americans divided by race.
This is so strange considering the fact that Obama is of equally mixed race. It is almost like he feels shunned by Whites that he wants to be more Black. This is a dangerous personal affliction that would certainly explain Obama's innability to take a firm stand on any issue.
This reminds me of incidences where Young Jews shunned by a non-Jewish environment become radically anti-Jewish, at least one noted incident where the young man became a leader of a local White Supremist group.
Does Obama feel that he needs to be extremely Black in order to dispell his not being accpeted as a Black person in his youth? Why is Obama denying his White heritage? This man has issues.
bootlen
08-04-2008, 07:14 AM
Pffft.
He's just a power mongering idiot.
acmanko
08-04-2008, 09:23 AM
Well, if just a small portion of that article is accurate, it depicts Obama clearly as a racist. If not a racist to the degree of turning us against one another, then surely a racist in the sense that he is going to keep Americans divided by race.
This is so strange considering the fact that Obama is of equally mixed race. It is almost like he feels shunned by Whites that he wants to be more Black. This is a dangerous personal affliction that would certainly explain Obama's innability to take a firm stand on any issue.
This reminds me of incidences where Young Jews shunned by a non-Jewish environment become radically anti-Jewish, at least one noted incident where the young man became a leader of a local White Supremist group.
Does Obama feel that he needs to be extremely Black in order to dispell his not being accpeted as a Black person in his youth? Why is Obama denying his White heritage? This man has issues.
Jesus was Black, as were his followers.
everythingair
08-04-2008, 11:13 AM
Jesus was Black, as were his followers.
What in the world does this erred remark have to do with anything being discussed?
bootlen
08-04-2008, 01:13 PM
What in the world does this erred remark have to do with anything being discussed?
Nothing. Look at who the poster is.
everythingair
08-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Nothing. Look at who the poster is.
Well, I don't know the poster, but no matter who it is, this is a completely irrelevant and abrasive comment to make. Why would anyone make such a comment? What purpose could such a comment serve under any circumstances? Is this poster just someone who throws out absurd comments just to irritate other forum members?
acmanko
08-04-2008, 04:29 PM
Well, I don't know the poster, but no matter who it is, this is a completely irrelevant and abrasive comment to make. Why would anyone make such a comment? What purpose could such a comment serve under any circumstances? Is this poster just someone who throws out absurd comments just to irritate other forum members?well, it was in response to the third paragraph of Robo's post, that is why I quoted it. If you are not able to read and comprehend . stay on the porch.
bootlen
08-04-2008, 04:58 PM
See?
everythingair
08-04-2008, 05:32 PM
well, it was in response to the third paragraph of Robo's post, that is why I quoted it. If you are not able to read and comprehend . stay on the porch.
I must agree with mr. bootlen; you simply make no sense. I have just read and reread the post you refer to and I just don't see any correlation in what your comment was to that post, or any other post.
I also don't understand what your comment about staying on a porch has to do with anything. I am going to assume that you simply enjoy making nonsensical posts for your own amusement and just disregard them from now on.
everythingair
08-04-2008, 05:34 PM
See?
Not really, and I don't have the desire to either.
bootlen
08-04-2008, 05:47 PM
No. I meant "See? That's his M.O." Sometimes I think ac just blindly pounds away at the keys and, somehow, words come out. Not sensible words...just words. Kinda like his last 2 or 3 here. Kinda fun to watch.
acmanko
08-04-2008, 06:09 PM
This reminds me of incidences where Young Jews shunned by a non-Jewish environment become radically anti-Jewish, at least one noted incident where the young man became a leader of a local White Supremist group
see the part about white supremist. Jesus was a Jew, he was black and could never be the leader of a white supremist group, neither could his followers.
bootlen
08-04-2008, 06:12 PM
Must have Jesus and Sammy Davis, Jewnior, mixed up.:D
tunnel_rat
08-04-2008, 06:42 PM
Obviously he's Black when it's "convienient" for him, and the race baiters. He's half and half, why can't he deal with that? We have real issues he will have to deal with if he is elected (:eek:). He's a man, a weak one, but a man. I'm guessing............;)
Robin, do you start threads like this to just stir the pot so to speak ?
I dont care if he's purple and gay He's a hollow suit full of nothing but air and If there is content It will change in moments. Wonder who's puppet he really is ?
bootlen
08-04-2008, 07:10 PM
Wonder who's puppet he really is ?
That is exactly MY question. His web site has all these plans and policies he intends to put into place. But when confronted face to face, he stutters and stammers trying unsuccessfully to sound knowledgable.
He's somebody's puppet alright.
RoBoTeq
08-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Obviously he's Black when it's "convienient" for him, and the race baiters. He's half and half, why can't he deal with that? We have real issues he will have to deal with if he is elected (:eek:). He's a man, a weak one, but a man. I'm guessing............;)
This is exactly my point. Obama is not just "Black" as he is clearly a man of mixed race. Also, since the White side of Obama's mixed racial heritage played a major role in Obama's upbringing, why does he only relate to his Black heritage.
Then we have to wonder; if Obama dwells only on his Black heritage, how does he think about his Islamic heritage since his Black father and step father are both Muslims? Just what goes on in this man's mind? How does Obama see himself? How does Obama see the rest of Americans?
RoBoTeq
08-04-2008, 07:33 PM
Robin, do you start threads like this to just stir the pot so to speak ?
I dont care if he's purple and gay He's a hollow suit full of nothing but air and If there is content It will change in moments. Wonder who's puppet he really is ?
I don't see where I am stirring any pot. Obama and his followers have brought his Blackness into the main limelight of his campaign. Yet we never hear anything from Obama about his White heritage other then when it comes to being racist, his White grandmother who raised him was a "typical" White woman. Just what does that mean? If that is how Obama feels about his own flesh and blood, how does he feel about the rest of us?
I don't want to see the United States divided even more then it already is and Obama certainly seems to be a divisionist politician who will clearly use his power to cater to only a certain portion of the United States.
For the first time in my years of being eligible to vote for our president, I actually feel that I am having to vote against a man who I do not believe intends to represent me as an American. I am not in any group that Obama caters to.
No matter which way past presidential candidates leaned, left or right, I always felt that all of them were interested in their ideals for all Americans. I do not feel that Obama has the best interest of all Americans at heart.
RoBoTeq
08-04-2008, 07:36 PM
That is exactly MY question. His web site has all these plans and policies he intends to put into place. But when confronted face to face, he stutters and stammers trying unsuccessfully to sound knowledgable.
He's somebody's puppet alright.
Just look at the types of people who are supporting him.
I stop looking for who is pulling Obama's strings with the staunch support he gets from the Islamic community; http://www.muslimsforobama08.com/
RoBoTeq
08-04-2008, 07:40 PM
But, then again, Communists, Marxists and Socialists also give their support to Obama; http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/group/MarxistsSocialistsCommunistsforObama
I don't see where I am stirring any pot. Obama and his followers have brought his Blackness into the main limelight of his campaign. Yet we never hear anything from Obama about his White heritage other then when it comes to being racist, his White grandmother who raised him was a "typical" White woman. Just what does that mean? If that is how Obama feels about his own flesh and blood, how does he feel about the rest of us?
I don't want to see the United States divided even more then it already is and Obama certainly seems to be a divisionist politician who will clearly use his power to cater to only a certain portion of the United States.
For the first time in my years of being eligible to vote for our president, I actually feel that I am having to vote against a man who I do not believe intends to represent me as an American. I am not in any group that Obama caters to.
No matter which way past presidential candidates leaned, left or right, I always felt that all of them were interested in their ideals for all Americans. I do not feel that Obama has the best interest of all Americans at heart.
Robin you must agree there is no strong canidate who is fhyscally( bad spell ) responsible and is a true conservative in those terms. As a card carying LibertarianI have to put party behind principal. I will vote Johhny boy but with reservation
RoBoTeq
08-04-2008, 10:35 PM
Robin you must agree there is no strong canidate who is fhyscally( bad spell ) responsible and is a true conservative in those terms. As a card carying LibertarianI have to put party behind principal. I will vote Johhny boy but with reservation
I agree that there is no great choice this time around. There is a reason for that; not much of what is already in play can be changed within four years. Pretty much, whoever becomes president will be in that position for only four years.
Just because our next president is not going to be able to do much about the major circumstances that will confront him does not mean that an ultra-liberal Democrat with Socialist leanings as president along with a Democrat run Congress can't do some very nasty social damage to our country.
McCain is at least a politician who has shown he is more then willing to cross Party lines to get things done. I may not agree with some of the things that McCain has promoted, but I don't see McCain possibly dividing our nation the way I see that Obama most likely will.
After all, Obama is running on a platform of "change" that he has not even attempted to define. Why is no one pressing Obama to tell us exactly what "change" he has in the back of his mind? The more I learn about Obama, the scarier he is to me.
It scares me a bit we have so similar views. See ya next week
m-cooling
08-06-2008, 02:52 PM
OK, the fact is that Obama is not "Black", he is in fact "Biracial".
So, if Obama becomes president, will we have to go through this racist crap again when a "real" Black person runs for the presidency? Why is race being injected into this election? The answer must be to propogate Obama's chances of winning because he and the media backing him are the only ones that keep bringing it up.
Obama accuses McCain of trying to scare the American public by noting that Obama does not "look" like the men on U.S. paper money. That is a racist remark from Obama.
The media promoting Obama keep touting that the United States could have it's first "Black" president. Oh goody; now we have the seed sown for radical leftists and Black agitators to riot if Obama does not win because they will claim it was because Obama is Black....which he is not.
So, using the race card, are those who are promoting Obama for the presidency doing everything they can to make the general public afraid to oppose Obama for fear of racial retributions? I think they are.
With having a Democratic Congress, if we elect Obama, the U.S. could very well be looking down the barrel of a revolt from the right when the left just get too far out of hand. The threats of revolution from the left is a constant every election, but they never act on their complaints, they just whine about them. If conservatives become afraid that our government is possibly turning against us, there will be more then rallies in the street and complaining on Oprah.
We need to be very careful. We have a very delicate situation because of the people we have put in place with our government.
black is black down south
m-cooling
08-06-2008, 02:54 PM
we just call em mixed breeds honestly
everythingair
08-06-2008, 08:28 PM
With today's extreme awareness of race there are many terms used for people of mixed race, especially those who are mixed black. Mulato used to be a term used for people of mixed race in the Americas but Mulato is mostly gone from use in the United States. High yellow was a common term for mixed race in Northern U.S. areas where different shades of chocolate are now more popular to use. No matter where you go, people of mixed race are noticed and rarely just called Black because they happen to have some Black features or heritage. That attitude went out even in the South during the days of integration.
Something I believe we need to do is to stop dwelling on our differences while continuing to applaud who we are and the different racial paths our ancestors may have taken for us to get to be who we are. There are certainly no pure races in the world and it seems that we may all have come from African heritage one way or another, so why do we keep making race an issue?
My issue with Barack Hussein Obama and race is the way he and the media are using race to promote Obama. I just don't want a leader who thinks in such seperatist ways about race. The way Obama is going he could wind up like that Two Faced character out the the Batman stories and not know what he believes in.
k-fridge
08-06-2008, 08:33 PM
Didn't Cher do a song about this?
RoBoTeq
08-06-2008, 09:45 PM
Didn't Cher do a song about this?
You mean like; "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" or this; http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=half+breed+youtube&ei=UTF-8&fr=hp-pvnb
mrs reb77
08-06-2008, 09:57 PM
My issue with Barack Hussein Obama and race is the way he and the media are using race to promote Obama. I just don't want a leader who thinks in such seperatist ways about race. The way Obama is going he could wind up like that Two Faced character out the the Batman stories and not know what he believes in.
I have several friends who happen to have black skin and they do not agree with the whole "first Black President" promotion. And, I must say, the color of their skin isn't the first thing I think of either--none of them are the 'black nurse I know' or the 'black firefighter' or my friend the 'black teacher'. The color of their skin is only incidental to their birth, not a thing to actually do with what kind of person, nurse, firefighter, teacher, mother, father, brother, sister, friend etc. that they are or can be.
Oh, and incidentally, none of these friends support Obama for President. Some of the local gay community do though. :rolleyes:
sline-dawg
08-06-2008, 10:25 PM
Amen there Mrs. Reb.....Dittos from Texas...:)
bootlen
08-06-2008, 10:33 PM
You mean like; "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" or this; http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=half+breed+youtube&ei=UTF-8&fr=hp-pvnb
Hmm. I was thinking "Half-breed".
RoBoTeq
08-07-2008, 12:37 AM
Oh, and incidentally, none of these friends support Obama for President. Some of the local gay community do though. :rolleyes:
Well, that makes sense. You know what they say about those "Black" men:confused:
johnl45
08-10-2008, 10:39 AM
OK, the fact is that Obama is not "Black", he is in fact "Biracial".
So, if Obama becomes president, will we have to go through this racist crap again when a "real" Black person runs for the presidency? Why is race being injected into this election? The answer must be to propogate Obama's chances of winning because he and the media backing him are the only ones that keep bringing it up.
With having a Democratic Congress, if we elect Obama, the U.S. could very well be looking down the barrel of a revolt from the right when the left just get too far out of hand. The threats of revolution from the left is a constant every election, but they never act on their complaints, they just whine about them. If conservatives become afraid that our government is possibly turning against us, there will be more then rallies in the street and complaining on Oprah.
We need to be very careful. We have a very delicate situation because of the people we have put in place with our government.
Every right-wing racist should know if you have a even drop of black blood your considered a black.
Revolt from the right! you must be joking they created this mess. They have elected and supported more crooks than any other time in history.
RoBoTeq
08-10-2008, 12:11 PM
Every right-wing racist should know if you have a even drop of black blood your considered a black.
Revolt from the right! you must be joking they created this mess. They have elected and supported more crooks than any other time in history.
Then I am obviously not a right wing racist. So what is your point with this little commentary that has no explanation or support?
m-cooling
08-10-2008, 12:55 PM
what we had to choose from this year was a woman and a black. which I want neither for president.Now that teres statement might piss you off but I'm usually not politically correct.
this sites based in USA so we have freedom to say what we want about people. there now you thing I'm a racist and a biggitist
m-cooling
08-10-2008, 12:56 PM
In my mind I can't describe Obama as no other than a black man. sorry thats just me.
I just wish senator Bill Frist would run. He's got a good caring heart for helping. Hes a doctor too. He does a lot for our local community here. the children too . And hes a fellow Alum so........
RoBoTeq
08-10-2008, 02:12 PM
oooo-kayyy, let me just scratch mid-Tennessee right of of my places to go list:confused:
John you need medication. What platform is Barrack running on ? What ideas does he have ? I see an empty suit. Who is pushing his buttons? I am not real excited about Johnny boy bot it still has merrit
RoBoTeq
08-10-2008, 02:27 PM
Ya know, the next president is not going to be very affective with much other then doing the administering of what is already in progress. Because of that, it really does not matter a lot who becomes president for the next four years, and maybe whoever that is can adapt to the position and actually get re-elected to do something in a second term.
My issue, and the point of this thread is that even if Obama is elected, will we really be free of the hype that we have elected our first "Black" president? I don't think so. I think that if Obama is elected, we will still have to go through hearing about a "real" Black person running for president.
I don't want a Black president. I don't care if my president happens to be Black, multiracial or green, but I don't want the race of my president to be the difining factor of my president.
razorwit
08-11-2008, 09:07 AM
Does Obama feel that he needs to be extremely Black in order to dispell his not being accpeted as a Black person in his youth? Why is Obama denying his White heritage? This man has issues.
No. He feels he needs to project "black" to the African American voters to secure their vote.
He can have the best of both worlds.
He can play the race card for electability while appealing to the unsuspecting white voters who feel the need to be a part of the black experience.
In a country where most voters are ignorant about the issues and platforms, it's a perfect scenario for Obama.
Obama....Half honkey.....All donkey.
razorwit
08-11-2008, 09:18 AM
McCain is at least a politician who has shown he is more then willing to cross Party lines to get things done.
I'd never support Obama, but I'd be interested in you telling me just what McCain has done during his time in Washington that has made a significant difference.
In fact, I'd say McCain and the status quo haven't served the American people very well at all.
acmanko
08-11-2008, 09:30 AM
McCain was unacceptable 4 years ago and again 8 years ago . Why is he acceptable today?
mrs reb77
08-11-2008, 10:53 AM
Even you don't think there was a question 4 years ago that Bush would not run for re-election.
Therefore, what you mean is, because Bush beat out McCain 8 years ago you don't think he should be acceptable as a candidate now? Someone should tell Ralph Nader that you only get one shot...or Alan Keyes...:rolleyes:
BigJon3475
08-11-2008, 10:53 AM
McCain was unacceptable 4 years ago and again 8 years ago . Why is he acceptable today?
Context...I would poke my eye out before voting for Obama's social nightmare. I don't the RP can win so I don't want to risk my vote and chance to cancel out a Obama fanatical......Obama isn't Mylie Cyrus but he sure seems to think the president should be a star.
m-cooling
08-11-2008, 02:07 PM
[QUOTE=m-cooling;1956091]stupid
acmanko
08-11-2008, 03:58 PM
Even you don't think there was a question 4 years ago that Bush would not run for re-election.
Therefore, what you mean is, because Bush beat out McCain 8 years ago you don't think he should be acceptable as a candidate now? Someone should tell Ralph Nader that you only get one shot...or Alan Keyes...:rolleyes:
not an answer:)
acmanko
08-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Context...I would poke my eye out before voting for Obama's social nightmare. I don't the RP can win so I don't want to risk my vote and chance to cancel out a Obama fanatical......Obama isn't Mylie Cyrus but he sure seems to think the president should be a star.not an answer:confused:
mrs reb77
08-11-2008, 04:02 PM
Did you really consider that a valid question?
4 years ago McCain couldn't have been considered. So, Bush prevailed 8 years ago, didn't mean that McCain was unacceptable. Do you think Hillary will never run again? If Obama loses do you think he's done?
What about Edwards? You realize he ran 4 years ago?
acmanko
08-11-2008, 04:16 PM
Did you really consider that a valid question?
4 years ago McCain couldn't have been considered. So, Bush prevailed 8 years ago, didn't mean that McCain was unacceptable. Do you think Hillary will never run again? If Obama loses do you think he's done?
What about Edwards? You realize he ran 4 years ago? still not a good answer. we do not have Gore or Kerry running, McCain is not even close to resembling Nixon. He is a poor choice and everyone knows it.;)
mrs reb77
08-11-2008, 04:57 PM
Gore? Kerry? Nixon?
What the devil are you talking about?
Your original 'question', if it could be called that, was why McCain is acceptable now if unacceptable 4 years ago and 8 years ago. The reply to you was that Bush beat him 8 years ago (and 4 years ago there wasn't a contest, duh) and just because of that didn't mean he couldn't run again. This time the cards played out for him to get the nomination. Doesn't mean he's any less or more acceptable.
mrs reb77
08-11-2008, 04:58 PM
And if I remember my history correctly, Nixon was impeached. Yeah, I'd wanna vote for him...:rolleyes:
As usual you are making non-sense.
k-fridge
08-11-2008, 05:14 PM
And if I remember my history correctly, Nixon was impeached. Yeah, I'd wanna vote for him...:rolleyes:
As usual you are making non-sense.
Articles of impeachment were drawn up, but he resigned before a vote could be held. So technically, he wasn't impeached.
mrs reb77
08-11-2008, 05:49 PM
Ah yes, he ran away!
I was barely in Elementary School during his Presidency so I don't recall first hand a lot of it...;)
William J. Clinton WAS impeached though, this I remember.
Still have no idea why the poster brought Nixon up--strange reasoning...
acmanko
08-11-2008, 06:40 PM
Ah yes, he ran away!
I was barely in Elementary School during his Presidency so I don't recall first hand a lot of it...;)
William J. Clinton WAS impeached though, this I remember.
Still have no idea why the poster brought Nixon up--strange reasoning...well, I had no Idea that you were still a spring chicken. I mentioneded Nixon because he ran for Presidentseveral times before he was elected and McCain is not another Nixon,i.e. he will not be elected this time either.:o
everythingair
08-11-2008, 06:44 PM
What makes McCain more of a candidate this election is that the Republican Party has little to lose if McCain does not win. The next four years we are going to have a president that is basically doing an administrative job with existing issues nationally and worldwide.
What makes McCain good for the United States is image. McCain depicts patriotism with his military deeds. McCain depicts honor with his refusal to be let out of the Vietcong prison camp early because of his father being an admiral. McCain depicts someone willing to cross party lines to do what he feels is best for all American citizens. There are no controversies about McCain's religious beliefs, racial prejudices or national loyalties. McCain somewhat depicts more of what the United States as it was designed stands for while his opponent only speaks of vague change.
acmanko
08-11-2008, 06:58 PM
What makes McCain more of a candidate this election is that the Republican Party has little to lose if McCain does not win. The next four years we are going to have a president that is basically doing an administrative job with existing issues nationally and worldwide.
What makes McCain good for the United States is image. McCain depicts patriotism with his military deeds. McCain depicts honor with his refusal to be let out of the Vietcong prison camp early because of his father being an admiral. McCain depicts someone willing to cross party lines to do what he feels is best for all American citizens. There are no controversies about McCain's religious beliefs, racial prejudices or national loyalties. McCain somewhat depicts more of what the United States as it was designed stands for while his opponent only speaks of vague change.
now thats funny
FlatTire
08-11-2008, 07:22 PM
The reason that McCain failed 8 years ago was primarily because of moral reasons, and he was considered too liberal. He left his first wife while she was handicapped from an accident while he was in Vietnam. While Bush stayed with the same woman.
There were false allegations about him having another affair with a black woman who he is now taking care of the daughter of. That he was treated better then other POW's, like a number of people believe he never got his arms broken and was released early. Bush's national guard service wasn't brought up in the republican nominations. Nor was his Christianity challenged, nor was his histrory with drugs and drinking dived into. While in North Carolina McCain's wife was referred to as a drug addicted.
The fact that many Democrats and liberals were comfortable with McCain. And the fact the the christian conservatives and conservatives already had their man in Bush was the reason why McCain lost the Republican nominations. And Senators almost never win for how they have to talk to people and how they have to vote on issues.
The reason why he might loose against Obama is simply cause Obama is popular. He has as many people donate to his campaign as there are people who watch ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, and i think even Fox news combined. Obama is trying to give a generic message to prove that he has a big tent.
McCain is failing because of all the people that Obama might get to vote that never have vote. And that McCain was always good with the moderates and more left wing and independent people of this country. That pool seems to be more with Obama or libertarian party. And he is now pandering to the right wing of the party the part that burned him in North Carolina and in the rumor mills. The part that is usually a given for a republican candidate is now at question for McCain.
RoBoTeq
08-11-2008, 07:48 PM
Let's face it, ever since elections have been televised (Kennedy/Nixon campaign), our election of a world leader is more a popularity contest then a rational choosing of a leader based on the best skills to lead.
FlatTire
08-11-2008, 08:01 PM
Let's face it, ever since elections have been televised (Kennedy/Nixon campaign), our election of a world leader is more a popularity contest then a rational choosing of a leader based on the best skills to lead.
I think the american public was always image conscious. There is no other reason for them to have elected people like Gen. Andrew Jackson, Gen. Grant, Garfield, and Taft were also terrible presidents that looked good. Roosevelt had to hide the fact that he couldn't walk and Bush stood something during the debates vs. Gore to appear to be the same size.
So don't be surprised that we elected a guy simply for the fact that he doesn't look at all like Bush (old white male). Or that the general public's view of black men is so low that they are surprised at how nice and smart Obama is.
And all in all is that really any worst then not voting for someone simply for the fact that they are a Democrat or Republic or are from the north?
mrs reb77
08-11-2008, 10:06 PM
well, I had no Idea that you were still a spring chicken. I mentioneded Nixon because he ran for Presidentseveral times before he was elected and McCain is not another Nixon,i.e. he will not be elected this time either.:o
Even Nixon didn't know he'd be victorious though, did he? Wasn't that something to do with the impeachment articles? :o
I remember in high school, during a trip to Washington D.C. we visited the Watergate hotel and I was thinking, 'gee, they named this after the scandal President Nixon was involved in..' :p
I believe another poster hit on the head why Bush prevailed over McCain 8 years ago.
sparky05
08-11-2008, 10:18 PM
Jesus was Black, as were his followers.
Just so we correct this false statement, Jesus was neither Black nor White, he was of a middle eastern complection, some would say olive colored, as also were his followers. ;)
mrs reb77
08-11-2008, 10:25 PM
The post you are quoting was previously addressed--we all pretty much know to ignore...things that make non-sense....:o well, you see...
RoBoTeq
08-12-2008, 12:37 AM
The post you are quoting was previously addressed--we all pretty much know to ignore...things that make non-sense....:o well, you see...
OK Mrs reb, I figured out why your avatar is disturbing to me. At first I thought it was because it made me think of you in a sexual way, but now I realize that it looks like you are crapping out a gas nozzle:eek:
Sorry, I sometimes see things differently then most:o
BigJon3475
08-12-2008, 12:49 AM
If you could produce the gasoline you'd be in business....
acmanko
08-12-2008, 08:01 AM
I thought it was one of those new natural gas stations T. Boone Pickens is talking about.:o
mrs reb77
08-12-2008, 09:12 AM
OK Mrs reb, I figured out why your avatar is disturbing to me. At first I thought it was because it made me think of you in a sexual way, but now I realize that it looks like you are crapping out a gas nozzle:eek:
Sorry, I sometimes see things differently then most:o
LOL!
razorwit
08-12-2008, 09:39 AM
The question regarding McCain being acceptable now and not then is, as pointed out, nonsensical(absurd).
And after reviewing some of the posts from this acmanko charachter, I agree that he should be ignored when he doesn't attach fact to these types of statements.
Throughout political history in this country,(and elsewhere around the world) politicians have risen from the ashes like a phoenix to live another day and run for the same office or other offices when they have been previously rejected by voters.
Getting back to the original subject matter, I agree that Obama has and will glean as much out of the black thing as he possibly can.... to get elected.
His "typical" white mother is largely responsible for his education and promotion into the standing he enjoys today.
acmanko
08-12-2008, 10:04 AM
The question regarding McCain being acceptable now and not then is, as pointed out, nonsensical(absurd).
And after reviewing some of the posts from this acmanko charachter, I agree that he should be ignored when he doesn't attach fact to these types of statements.
Throughout political history in this country,(and elsewhere around the world) politicians have risen from the ashes like a phoenix to live another day and run for the same office or other offices when they have been previously rejected by voters.
Getting back to the original subject matter, I agree that Obama has and will glean as much out of the black thing as he possibly can.... to get elected.
His "typical" white mother is largely responsible for his education and promotion into the standing he enjoys today.thanks kevin.:D
razorwit
08-12-2008, 11:25 AM
You're welcome, David.
I can see you still don't have a life....You got a job yet?:D
acmanko
08-12-2008, 04:59 PM
You're welcome, David.
I can see you still don't have a life....You got a job yet?:Dstill having to deal with WC, but it looks like it will end in January. say hello to Al:)
k-fridge
08-12-2008, 05:16 PM
still having to deal with WC, but it looks like it will end in January. say hello to Al:)
You going to work with Chilly?
acmanko
08-12-2008, 05:22 PM
You going to work with Chilly?
ROFLMAO? no I am disabled, and chilly is in North Carolina. I'm in Texas
k-fridge
08-12-2008, 05:26 PM
ROFLMAO? no I am disabled, and chilly is in North Carolina. I'm in Texas
OK. I saw "Al" and I wondered.
Do you ever hear from him since he closed his forum?
acmanko
08-12-2008, 05:44 PM
OK. I saw "Al" and I wondered.
Do you ever hear from him since he closed his forum?
well, you were correct about Al, but no.I haven't heard from him
k-fridge
08-12-2008, 06:32 PM
well, you were correct about Al, but no.I haven't heard from him
Just curious. Liked the guy, most of the time.........;)
glennac
08-12-2008, 06:43 PM
LOL!
mrs reb why don't you hold a contest for someone to come up with the best avatar for you? You of course could announce the lucky winner and the prize would be one free swing at one of the pests on this forum.:D:D:D Just kidding but I think you sure could use another avatar and that would be a fun way to pick one so to speak.
Your current one is a little rough if I may say so, no offense intended.:)
acmanko
08-12-2008, 06:49 PM
mrs reb why don't you hold a contest for someone to come up with the best avatar for you? You of course could announce the lucky winner and the prize would be one free swing at one of the pests on this forum.:D:D:D Just kidding but I think you sure could use another avatar and that would be a fun way to pick one so to speak.
Your current one is a little rough if I may say so, no offense intended.:)
I think a picture of her on her knees begging me to teach her all I know would be about perfect.
k-fridge
08-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Be nice boys.........;)
RoBoTeq
08-12-2008, 07:08 PM
I think a picture of her on her knees begging me to teach her all I know would be about perfect.
Why would anyone want to become dumber?
mrs reb77
08-12-2008, 07:30 PM
I think a picture of her on her knees begging me to teach her all I know would be about perfect.
It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
I'd say it's too late for you. :(
acmanko
08-12-2008, 08:20 PM
its nice to be loved:eek:
bootlen
08-12-2008, 09:47 PM
I think a picture of her on her knees begging me to teach her all I know would be about perfect.
That would take begging alright. There's nothing to teach.
razorwit
08-22-2008, 09:25 AM
still having to deal with WC, but it looks like it will end in January. say hello to Al:)
Will do. He's doing great.
Has had a banner year.;)
razorwit
08-22-2008, 09:28 AM
Just curious. Liked the guy, most of the time.........;)
LOL
Yeah, he told me about you.
Said you were a decent fellow with a nice pair of lips.:D
k-fridge
08-22-2008, 11:18 AM
LOL
Yeah, he told me about you.
Said you were a decent fellow with a nice pair of lips.:D
Now that was so wrong.....
razorwit
08-25-2008, 10:56 AM
Now that was so wrong.....
LOL Just kidding. Just thought I would zing you since you seemed to be giving my buddy a half-a$$ed compliment.
Like him or not, Al never has had anything bad to say about anyone that he doesn't have the courage to say to their face.
k-fridge
08-25-2008, 11:31 AM
LOL Just kidding. Just thought I would zing you since you seemed to be giving my buddy a half-a$$ed compliment.
Like him or not, Al never has had anything bad to say about anyone that he doesn't have the courage to say to their face.
Oh I meant the compliment, I think Al has a big ole heart. We didn't always see eye to eye but that's OK, life would be boring if we all agreed with each other.
RoBoTeq
08-25-2008, 06:04 PM
Oh I meant the compliment, I think Al has a big ole heart. We didn't always see eye to eye but that's OK, life would be boring if we all agreed with each other.
No it wouldn't;):rolleyes::D
oloenneker
08-25-2008, 08:56 PM
Jesus was Black, as were his followers.
And apparently also a Homosexual.
crackertech
08-25-2008, 09:01 PM
And apparently also a Homosexual.
:eek::eek:were the hell did that come from?
oloenneker
08-25-2008, 09:02 PM
Like him or not, Al never has had anything bad to say about anyone that he doesn't have the courage to say to their face.
He just an irritated Italian guy, what do you expect? Especially when you think it is funny to call him up in the middle of the nigh, drunk off your ass!!:eek::eek::eek: Bada-bing, Bada-boom!
oloenneker
08-25-2008, 09:04 PM
:eek::eek:were the hell did that come from?
Ahhh... Thats what i get for replying to something early in the thread... I did not look to see that it was XXX pages long.
But, yeah, Jesus...
Black, and as gay as RuPaul...
RoBoTeq
08-25-2008, 09:09 PM
:eek::eek:were the hell did that come from?
Homosexual propoganda. Homosexuals try to make it sound like everyone was and is homosexual. Oleo is on a homosexual rampage on this and at least one other thread. I think I may have sparked his homo gene when I mentioned I swam nude in high school.:confused:
crackertech
08-25-2008, 09:15 PM
Homosexual propoganda. Homosexuals try to make it sound like everyone was and is homosexual. Oleo is on a homosexual rampage on this and at least one other thread. I think I may have sparked his homo gene when I mentioned I swam nude in high school.:confused:
LOL. I seen that thread and was thinking the samething.Seam's it has hit a nerve.:D:D:D:D
k-fridge
08-25-2008, 09:21 PM
You guys are gonna make me gray headed.:eek:
RoBoTeq
08-25-2008, 09:23 PM
You guys are gonna make me gray headed.:eek:
You're not gray yet? Boy, do we have some work to do:p
k-fridge
08-25-2008, 09:24 PM
You're not gray yet? Boy, do we have some work to do:p
Nah, the bit'ness partner has all the gray hair. :D
crackertech
08-25-2008, 09:28 PM
Nah, the bit'ness partner has all the gray hair. :D
The last pic I seen looked like he had no hair.:eek::D
oloenneker
08-27-2008, 01:40 AM
LOL. I seen that thread and was thinking the samething.Seam's it has hit a nerve.:D:D:D:D
Don't listen to the drivel that Boyd tells you. He is a closeted homo. The nude swim team says a lot about him, and his "problem".:cool:
Now, to the meat of the issue. So, Jesus Christ; gay or not gay?
Me thinks he was a raging queer. Can you prove otherwise?
BTW, Me: Straight, married, and love poon-tang, thank you very much.
RoBoTeq
08-27-2008, 08:38 AM
Seems we have gotten off track with someone feeling the need to convince us he is is straight even though he thinks everyone else is homosexual..yea, right; methinks he doth protest too much.
Back to Obama and his racial issues. I am now hearing volleys back and forth between Obama's "blue collar" upbringing by the White side of his family, yet he is still touted as going to be the first "Black" president. I'm not sure any of Obama's supporters of even Obama himself knows how to properly define Obama.
Have we ever had a candidate who there were so many questions about? Questions about his race. Questions about his faith. Questions about his patriotic loyalties. Questions about his history. Questions about his meaning of "change".
Feels more like a lot of people following a false Messiah to me.
razorwit
08-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Seems we have gotten off track with someone feeling the need to convince us he is is straight even though he thinks everyone else is homosexual..yea, right; methinks he doth protest too much.
Back to Obama and his racial issues. I am now hearing volleys back and forth between Obama's "blue collar" upbringing by the White side of his family, yet he is still touted as going to be the first "Black" president. I'm not sure any of Obama's supporters of even Obama himself knows how to properly define Obama.
Have we ever had a candidate who there were so many questions about? Questions about his race. Questions about his faith. Questions about his patriotic loyalties. Questions about his history. Questions about his meaning of "change".
Feels more like a lot of people following a false Messiah to me.
Yeah, I kinda' agree. I see the under 30 set and the socialist types driving around in their Prius's with their dual Obama stickers and I know they haven't a clue.
After listening to his former "pastor" rant, I'd have to say that he's exactly what foreign nations think we need and exactly what we don't need in a leader.
razorwit
08-27-2008, 11:25 AM
He just an irritated Italian guy, what do you expect? Especially when you think it is funny to call him up in the middle of the nigh, drunk off your ass!!:eek::eek::eek: Bada-bing, Bada-boom!
LOL Yeah, he told me you did that to him.
Said he thought it was supremely immature.
Said he thought you were an obnoxious jerk until he saw your picture on another site.......
Now, he thinks you're an ugly, obnoxious jerk.:D:D
The guy ought to be doing standup.
He could have done an entire routine on ARP alone.:D
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