The Audacity Watch

[mrs reb77]

http://audacitywatch.com/

I found this site very interesting. The premise? Challenging the Myth of Obama and the Liberal Agenda.

I will be so glad when November is finally here.

[mrs reb77]

And here's a really fun game too!
http://www.gop.com/news/NewsRead.aspx?GUID=0a49703f-15d7-4a7a-8970-9a89684c52a6

[Remodeltdt01]

Do you actually read those sites and believe what they say?

[everythingair]

Do you actually read those sites and believe what they say?

The most well informed read all and listen to all from all points of view, and then sift out the more obvious biases that are opinion only and of course downright lies. In this way only can we make an informed decision. All sides of politics will lie and otherwise deceive us, so we must gather in all information and then discard from the most useless on down to a probable truth.

[Remodeltdt01]

The most well informed read all and listen to all from all points of view, and then sift out the more obvious biases that are opinion only and of course downright lies. In this way only can we make an informed decision. All sides of politics will lie and otherwise deceive us, so we must gather in all information and then discard from the most useless on down to a probable truth.

That sounds nice, but unless you're unemployed and have all day to read evey blog/post/etc. you're wasting your time. All it takes is a few seconds to dismiss a hack site.

[everythingair]

That sounds nice, but unless you're unemployed and have all day to read evey blog/post/etc. you're wasting your time. All it takes is a few seconds to dismiss a hack site.

Are you suggesting that everyone who holds down a job is basically uninformed? Are you suggesting that we need only read one particular blog in order to determine all that we need to know in order to support or oppose a political candidate? While I may agree that far too many people do exactly this out of general complacency, does that make it right?

[Remodeltdt01]

Are you suggesting that everyone who holds down a job is basically uninformed? Are you suggesting that we need only read one particular blog in order to determine all that we need to know in order to support or oppose a political candidate? While I may agree that far too many people do exactly this out of general complacency, does that make it right?

Of course not. A responsible voter researches as much as possible. Doing research in hack sites is a waste of time. Responsible voters don't do research there because they know it is a waste of time and that they won't get any unbiased information.

[mrs reb77]

Where exactly are your unbiased sites? Enquiring minds want to know...:p

[Remodeltdt01]

Where exactly are your unbiased sites? Enquiring minds want to know...:p

No sites are totally unbiased. Some are totally biased.

[tunnel_rat]

No sites are totally unbiased. Some are totally biased.


As per your last post about your "unbiased" info. I think your reply WAS her point....;)

[everythingair]

No sites are totally unbiased. Some are totally biased.

This is very true. However, even the totally biased sites usually use some sort of factual data for their basis of deceit. To prevent red herring arguments it is best to understand what bit of data that biased commentaries are based on so that your rebutal will not fall into the trap of disputing a small factor that the biased commentary can throw in your face as to why you are wrong.

For example; a story claiming Barack Hussein Obama to be still considered a Muslim because he was born as a Muslim is not true if Obama says he is not a Muslim. However, according to Islamic tradition and Sharia law, any child born to a Muslim father is a Muslim and always will be a Muslim. So, while the biased story is not accurate as far as most standards allow, a slight of hand factoid does make the claim accurate enough for those who made the claim to show proof that they were not fabricating that particular fact.

The more we study from the most points of view, the more we can make an educated determination about what may be actual fact.

[cehs]

Do you actually read those sites and believe what they say?

No more than you believe those liberal websites. :eek:
Learn to laugh, lighten up and enjoy. ;)

Do any of us realy think it will be the END of the world if the man we do NOT want wins?

:confused:

[RoBoTeq]

No more than you believe those liberal websites. :eek:
Learn to laugh, lighten up and enjoy. ;)

Do any of us realy think it will be the END of the world if the man we do NOT want wins?

:confused:
I have been noticing that Obama in particular is a bit more sensative to criticism, even for a liberal. It seems that Democrats in general enjoy making bumper snicker comments about their opponents but start whining about being the brunt of the same such treatment.

Just falls into line with the ultra-liberal belief that mere citizens should do as they are told and not as ultra-liberals are allowed to do.

[cehs]

I have been noticing that Obama in particular is a bit more sensative to criticism, even for a liberal. It seems that Democrats in general enjoy making bumper snicker comments about their opponents but start whining about being the brunt of the same such treatment.

Just falls into line with the ultra-liberal belief that mere citizens should do as they are told and not as ultra-liberals are allowed to do.

Kind of reminds me of the book 1984.

[glennac]

Of course not. A responsible voter researches as much as possible. Doing research in hack sites is a waste of time. Responsible voters don't do research there because they know it is a waste of time and that they won't get any unbiased information.

Don't need to spend any time researching any thing about politics anymore. The Democratic Party is the party of socialism and some are communists also. A lot of Republicans are liberals and a few are real Americans, IE conservatives who believe in the Constitution and less goverment not more. Like Regan. Libertarians are the answer but not enough folks vote for them. That's the whole story in a nut shell. But if you want to waste your time and research go ahead be my guest, vote communist for all I care.:)

[RoBoTeq]

Kind of reminds me of the book 1984.
What is really ironic is that leftists in the 1960s and 1970s adopted the 1984 theme of Big Brother as their way of looking at conservative politicians such as Nixon and Reagan. The irony is that George Orwell was writing about an antisipated society if the leftist governments of post world war two were allowed to continue to grow in power.

The title was simply the year the book was written inverted; 1948 to 1984. This was the first major novel I ever read and I did not get out of it what my teacher claimed it represented, which was how a conservative government can enslave the citizens of a country.

But yes, I agree that attempting to achieve utopia with liberal legalism will result in a world under a Big Brother regime. GPS anyone?

[Remodeltdt01]

No more than you believe those liberal websites. :eek:
Learn to laugh, lighten up and enjoy. ;)

Do any of us realy think it will be the END of the world if the man we do NOT want wins?

:confused:

Good then. I treat all hack sites the same. Total BS in an attempt to coerce the reader to fall into their agenda.

From many of the posts in this forum it appears there is a large contingent who feel that Obama is the antichrist and will cause the downfall of the US if he is elected. Saner minds know this is bunk.

[Remodeltdt01]

Don't need to spend any time researching any thing about politics anymore. The Democratic Party is the party of socialism and some are communists also. A lot of Republicans are liberals and a few are real Americans, IE conservatives who believe in the Constitution and less goverment not more. Like Regan. Libertarians are the answer but not enough folks vote for them. That's the whole story in a nut shell. But if you want to waste your time and research go ahead be my guest, vote communist for all I care.:)


From your post it appears you've spent too much time at those hack sites. You may want to expand your research into more mainline areas. ;)

[tonys]

after that racist 'paster' fiasco earlier this year,

it appears that Obama is Swift-Boat-Proof.

Prez. Obama - get used to it, people.

[k-fridge]

after that racist 'paster' fiasco earlier this year,

it appears that Obama is Swift-Boat-Proof.

Prez. Obama - get used to it, people.

Don't be so sure



http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/rasmussen_poll/2008/08/04/118973.html

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/zogby_poll_obama_mccain/2008/08/04/119021.html

[Remodeltdt01]

Maybe a meteor will fall onto the building the two party candidates are in when they have their debates, obliterating both of them. :D

Then we wouldn't have any candidates....

Then congress would declare a state of emergency and the election would be cancelled....

Then GW would be in office for another year or two. :(

[tonys]

posting hyperlinks to wing-nut websites, VOID of any real discussion/comment.

is that allowed???

...ahh, that conflict-of-interest gets in the way - again.

[k-fridge]

posting hyperlinks to wing-nut websites, VOID of any real discussion/comment.

is that allowed???

...ahh, that conflict-of-interest gets in the way - again.
"Is it allowed"? Yes it is. The rule applies to original posts or multiple posts within a short time frame. The intended purpose is to keep over zealous members from constantly slamming us with spam and copy pasta. No conflict or double standard whatsoever.

And regardless of which website you read them on, the Zogby and Rasmussen polls will show the same results. :)

[k-fridge]

Maybe a meteor will fall onto the building the two party candidates are in when they have their debates, obliterating both of them. :D

Then we wouldn't have any candidates....

Then congress would declare a state of emergency and the election would be cancelled....

Then GW would be in office for another year or two. :(

Tempting idea.

But I think we'd have to be in a declared war for a president to serve more than two terms. Each party would nominate whoever they wanted to be on the ballot. Man is that skeeeery!

[Remodeltdt01]

Tempting idea.

But I think we'd have to be in a declared war for a president to serve more than two terms. Each party would nominate whoever they wanted to be on the ballot. Man is that skeeeery!

:eek:

And I though my idea was scary.

[mark beiser]

Good then. I treat all hack sites the same. Total BS in an attempt to coerce the reader to fall into their agenda.

From many of the posts in this forum it appears there is a large contingent who feel that Obama is the antichrist and will cause the downfall of the US if he is elected. Saner minds know this is bunk.

I pretty much saw through Obama when he first started campaigning. The anti-Obama web sites mainly serve as entertainment.
Some good does come from them though. They catch Obama's lies, which would otherwise get barely a mention in the main stream media Obama love fest.

[whec720]

Maybe a meteor will fall onto the building the two party candidates are in when they have their debates, obliterating both of them. :D

Then we wouldn't have any candidates....

Then congress would declare a state of emergency and the election would be cancelled....

Then GW would be in office for another year or two. :(

Sounds good to me!:)

Face it, folks. GW, as lame as he is, is far better than the two losers that want his job. Straw vote....who wants to keep BUSH, rather than have McCain or BHO.




This is sooooo easy.:D



Yep, folks.....it has gotten this bad.:eek:

[Remodeltdt01]

Bush or one of the candidates? That's like asking "Do you want to be poked in the left eye with a sharp stick or the right?" :eek:

[glennac]

From your post it appears you've spent too much time at those hack sites. You may want to expand your research into more mainline areas. ;)

That's a big no. I had things figured out decades before the Internet when I was about 18 in 61. Grew up in the country in Tennessee. Listened and read a lot (old folks, library, newspapers, radio, etc.). I rounded out my education with a tour and a half in Nam. Got to Appreciate the real America before the commie loving liberals started changing everything starting with LBJ, Carter, etc. Wish they haven't changed it so much starting with allowing immigrants over here from everywhere in the world with different cultures than ours.

Back then only Northern Europeans were allowed in with a "few" from the non Western world. We didn't have big goverment back then either. I got my education on politics from experience and observation. wish most did and then maybe we wouldn't have to choose between a commie and a liberal for President.

Don't need the Internet to tell what the Democratic Party stands for.

[tonys]

Don't be so sure



http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/rasmussen_poll/2008/08/04/118973.html

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/zogby_poll_obama_mccain/2008/08/04/119021.html


Obama leads McCain nationally in AP-Ipsos poll By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON - Solid margins among women, minorities and young voters have powered Barack Obama to a 6 percentage point lead over John McCain in the presidential race, according to a poll released Tuesday.

Obama is ahead of his Republican rival 47 percent to 41 percent, The Associated Press-Ipsos poll showed. The survey was taken after the Democratic senator from Illinois had returned from a trip to Middle Eastern and European capitals, and during a week that saw the two camps clash over which had brought race into a campaign in which Obama is striving to become the first African-American president.

[glennac]

Obama leads McCain nationally in AP-Ipsos poll By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON - Solid margins among women, minorities and young voters have powered Barack Obama to a 6 percentage point lead over John McCain in the presidential race, according to a poll released Tuesday.

Obama is ahead of his Republican rival 47 percent to 41 percent, The Associated Press-Ipsos poll showed. The survey was taken after the Democratic senator from Illinois had returned from a trip to Middle Eastern and European capitals, and during a week that saw the two camps clash over which had brought race into a campaign in which Obama is striving to become the first African-American president.

And first Communist President.

[k-fridge]

Obama leads McCain nationally in AP-Ipsos poll By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON - Solid margins among women, minorities and young voters have powered Barack Obama to a 6 percentage point lead over John McCain in the presidential race, according to a poll released Tuesday.

Obama is ahead of his Republican rival 47 percent to 41 percent, The Associated Press-Ipsos poll showed. The survey was taken after the Democratic senator from Illinois had returned from a trip to Middle Eastern and European capitals, and during a week that saw the two camps clash over which had brought race into a campaign in which Obama is striving to become the first African-American president.
Some polls show results similar to this one, one of the variables is using likely voters versus registered voters.

But I agree that polls don't mean too much right now. What may be significant though is the trend. Over the last month Obama has lost a lead of as much as 10 points and now he and McCain are in a statistical dead heat. Any way you cut it, Obama is losing ground.

[chaard]

But this country doesn't make much sense anymore. Overturning the Californians wish to keep marriage between a man and a woman.

Crimianls getting off with a slap on the wrist.

Taking the Ten Commandments out of judges chambers.

Accusing the White House of masterminding 9-11

And now, after going after terrorists and exicuting Saddam Hussein, we are supposed to elect a man with the middle name of Hussein as our President. We will be the laughing stock of the world. Hussein, former dictator of Iraq, now Hussein President of the United States.:rolleyes:

[Remodeltdt01]

And first Communist President.

OK, I'll bite. What proof do you have that McCain or Obama is a communist?

[Remodeltdt01]

And now, after going after terrorists and exicuting Saddam Hussein, we are supposed to elect a man with the middle name of Hussein as our President. We will be the laughing stock of the world. Hussein, former dictator of Iraq, now Hussein President of the United States.:rolleyes:


This is sad. It really says a lot about American society when its members cannot tell the difference between 2 people because of a coincidental similarity in names. :(

[everythingair]

I have to agree that making claims that Obama is a Communist is very innacurate. Obama has severe Socialist leanings, but if he is indeed affected by any Islamic influences from his youth, that would make him less inclined to be a Communist.

Also, we certainly should not make a persons name a part of any reason to vote or not vote for them. While all of Obama's names are derived from Islamic culture and heritage, that does not absolutely define the man to be Islamic. I know a Stein who is not a Jew and one Arabic name that is very popular amonst young urban Whites is Amber.

We need to stick to facts and relevant issues that may or may not make either of the candidates for president likely to be good or bad for our country.

Barack Hussein Obama has done little in his career as a politician; McCain has done quite a bit with much of what he has done being done on a bi-Partisan level.

We are in a time of war. Should our next leader have any experience with war in order to better understand what may or may not need to be done? Obama has no military experience whatsoever. McCain has not only been active in war but knows first hand what captivity and torture is about, and he still opposes the torture of our enemies.

On a personal level; Barack Hussein Obama was born into a mixed culture of Atheism and Islamic teachings. Obama's earliest years had Islamic influences from his paternal father who abandoned him and his step father, both Muslims. In Obama's later years he was inspired by radical Muslim, Black and Anti-American religious leaders. McCain had a pretty white bread upbringing exposed to basic American cliche values which led him into the United States military where he continued to be exposed to American virtues and was continued to be taught loyalty to the United States of America.

McCain is ethnically a White man who has never had any contaversy surrounding who or what he is. Obama is ethnically of mixed race but depending on how it will play to which audiences increases or decreases his Blackness. McCain considers himself to be an American. Obama considers himself to be an African-American.

McCain knew what a tow ball was before the campaign started.

Obama is not certain how many States there are in the United States.

McCain sang a verse of Bomb Iran to the tune of Barbara Ann.

Obama wore a traditional Muslim robe for a photo op.

All we can do is to look at the list of who they are, where they come from, what they have done and what they will most likely do in order to come up with a decision as to who we should vote to be our next president.

So far, I will vote for McCain mostly because obama scares me more so then because McCain is a great candidate.

[glennac]

OK, I'll bite. What proof do you have that McCain or Obama is a communist?

Don't make me laugh. I never said or implied that the war hero McCain was a communist. He is a patriot a liberal unfortunately but a patriot none the less, not a fake like Kerry or a anti American like Obama.

Obama is a socialist big time for sure and there is evidence that he is also a communist. Check out the links. I would say he's a commie.
"However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1768917/posts

http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/barack-obamas-campaign-headquarters-displays-a-communist-flag/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQX7Awjui40&feature=related

[chaard]

This is sad. It really says a lot about American society when its members cannot tell the difference between 2 people because of a coincidental similarity in names. :(

I know there are no similarities between Sadaam and Borack other than the name. I know Borack is not a true Muslim too. I was just pointing out the irony of it all.

[tonys]

spelling...an art form.

[everythingair]

spelling...an art form.

Then may we assume that in this post of yours
08-05-2008, 03:49 PM
tonys
Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: where you at?
Posts: 3,271

after that racist 'paster' fiasco earlier this year,



you are referring to one who "pastes"?:rolleyes:

[k-fridge]

People who live in glass houses..........

[Remodeltdt01]

Don't make me laugh. I never said or implied that the war hero McCain was a communist. He is a patriot a liberal unfortunately but a patriot none the less, not a fake like Kerry or a anti American like Obama.

Obama is a socialist big time for sure and there is evidence that he is also a communist. Check out the links. I would say he's a commie.
"However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1768917/posts

http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/barack-obamas-campaign-headquarters-displays-a-communist-flag/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQX7Awjui40&feature=related


Meeting someone that was a communist or having a discussion with a communist doesn't make one a communist. Has Obama ever stated he was a communist? Links?

[Remodeltdt01]

I know there are no similarities between Sadaam and Borack other than the name. I know Borack is not a true Muslim too. I was just pointing out the irony of it all.


Sorry then. Your post made it easy to assume otherwise.

[everythingair]

duplicate post, sorry

[everythingair]

Meeting someone that was a communist or having a discussion with a communist doesn't make one a communist. Has Obama ever stated he was a communist? Links?

Are you claiming that a person is not judged by the company they keep? Obama did not just have casual meetings with many of the people in his life who have been identified as Communist, Islamic, Socialist, Black activists who openly promote hatred toward Whites and those who preach and teach anti-American lessons. Some of these types of people are Obama's long time friends, respected relatives and mentors in his social, theological and educational upbringing.

Are you saying that just because David Duke had lifelong associations with White Supremist radicals is not cause for us to suspect that David Duke may have leanings toward White supremacy? Or maybe President Bush has no leanings toward oil companies just because he had lifelong exposure to leading oil magnates.

There are just way too many things in Obama's life that should make us pause and wonder just what it is that Obama is thinking of when he says we need to change things.

[Remodeltdt01]

Are you claiming that a person is not judged by the company they keep? Obama did not just have casual meetings with many of the people in his life who have been identified as Communist, Islamic, Socialist, Black activists who openly promote hatred toward Whites and those who preach and teach anti-American lessons. Some of these types of people are Obama's long time friends, respected relatives and mentors in his social, theological and educational upbringing.

Are you saying that just because David Duke had lifelong associations with White Supremist radicals is not cause for us to suspect that David Duke may have leanings toward White supremacy? Or maybe President Bush has no leanings toward oil companies just because he had lifelong exposure to leading oil magnates.

There are just way too many things in Obama's life that should make us pause and wonder just what it is that Obama is thinking of when he says we need to change things.


People are judged by many things, including the people they associate with. That doesn’t mean they have taken on the characteristics of those people. We all know someone who is the polar opposite of how they were raised. Part of the American Dream is that someone isn’t limited by where they come from.

Obama has had meetings with many people in his life, some that have been branded as “unsavory”. What politician hasn’t? All politicians have 2 priorities, getting elected and then reelected. That requires money, and lots of it. It also requires influence. With those the votes follow. Where can a black man get these when he first starts his political career? I don’t think the RNC will be too helpful. So we have a politician “farming” whoever to get into office, just like every other politician. Does that mean that, when elected, he will follow their philosophies and try to force it on his contingents? That depends on the man, and no one can know that beforehand. Heck, even he doesn’t fully know. Could he do this when elected if he decided to? Does anyone here really think an elected president could change the country from a capitalist society to a communist one? The current administration is arguably one of the most powerful we’ve had in a long time. Yet their effects on us are minor, other than costing us a few dollars at the pump (and even the cause of that is argued).

John McCain has always been a bit of a Republican rogue. Occasionally we see him stepping out from under the party line and then step back under when the party pushes back. He is compromising his desires to keep the money and influence he needs to get elected. Does that mean he will follow blindly the RNC if elected? Of course not. They will have an influence on him as he needs them to get reelected. How much he “tows the line” is dependent upon him, the same as Obama.

The people that politicians get their money and influence from change as their offices change. Obama won’t be getting what he needs to be elected President from those that got him elected in Chicago. McCain won’t be getting what he needs from Arizona. Presidential office is an entirely different dynamic that requires more powerful influence and much bigger money.

Though we like to think the entire political process is broken, in some ways it works well. No one person can force their beliefs on enough of the others to make a major change. Washington is wrapped in a web of influence and money. Each politician is a part of this web and can only have limited effect on the whole. As long as the general public makes responsible choices at the ballot box no one politician can do too much harm.

So what does a politician mean when he states “we need change”? The term is so overused and ubiquitous that it has little if no meaning. Really all it means is “vote for me”.

Personally, I view all the BS spouted by both sides as just that. Until I can see both candidates go head to head in a debate I cannot judge the person. Speeches show us how well the speaker can remember their lines, read a teleprompter, and smile. Interviews give us (if we’re lucky) little glimpses of the person underneath all the dressing. History tells us some. Non history tells us less, but that doesn’t mean what we don’t know is bad. Political advertisements, web sites, etc. are just clutter that obscures us from the person. That is what we should be voting for, not what someone else told us to do.

[RoBoTeq]

Obama has not just associated with unsavory types, he has vehemently defended them until he just could no longer get away with it. There are dozens, not just one or two, of unsavory and otherwise questionable types in Obama's life that are not just a meet and greet situation, but rather meaningful relationships, at least according to what Barack Obama has stated in some of his speaches about these people.

McCain has always been a left leaning Republican and he does not hide under the Republican Party wing at all. If anything, he is not much appreciated by many staunch conservative Republicans because he is so willing to cross partison lines.

So, what we are left with is a candidate who will most likely unite left and right or one who just might further divide Black and White.

[Remodeltdt01]

Obama has not just associated with unsavory types, he has vehemently defended them until he just could no longer get away with it. There are dozens, not just one or two, of unsavory and otherwise questionable types in Obama's life that are not just a meet and greet situation, but rather meaningful relationships, at least according to what Barack Obama has stated in some of his speaches about these people.

McCain has always been a left leaning Republican and he does not hide under the Republican Party wing at all. If anything, he is not much appreciated by many staunch conservative Republicans because he is so willing to cross partison lines.

So, what we are left with is a candidate who will most likely unite left and right or one who just might further divide Black and White.

Maybe. A big question hanging over McCain is his health. He's 70 years old and his medical record isn't good. They released his records and for the recent past he's been adding about 150 pages per year. That makes one wonder if a vote for McCain wont end up being a vote for his VP. Until that person is selected we don't know what we'll get. Maybe McCain will be fine his entire term. However the way our presidents age while in office doesn't bode well.

GW is excluded from aging in office. Why? 500+ days of vacation would do anyone good.

[glennac]

Maybe. A big question hanging over McCain is his health. He's 70 years old and his medical record isn't good. They released his records and for the recent past he's been adding about 150 pages per year. That makes one wonder if a vote for McCain wont end up being a vote for his VP. Until that person is selected we don't know what we'll get. Maybe McCain will be fine his entire term. However the way our presidents age while in office doesn't bode well.

GW is excluded from aging in office. Why? 500+ days of vacation would do anyone good.

Heck I much rather have McCain die in office than have Obama as President for one day. He has an agenda and that scares me and most red blooded Americans. He will try to take this country into a leftward spiral with the destruction of our economy and liberties as the end result. He does want change but the kind that would warm the heart of Karl Marx.

Robo you are to kind on Obama. He will do far more than just divide this country along racial lines he will also divide us along economic lines and be a mirror image of his friend Chavez in Venezuela and go in the communist direction in a hurry.

[chaard]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonys
spelling...an art form.


[QUOTE=everythingair;1952803]
Then may we assume that in this post of yours

Quote:
08-05-2008, 03:49 PM
tonys
Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: where you at?
Posts: 3,271

after that racist 'paster' fiasco earlier this year,



Then may we assume that in this post of yours
you are referring to one who "pastes"?:rolleyes:


That shut him up.

BTW, since I got my computer back I don't have spellcheck.

[k-fridge]

BTW, since I got my computer back I don't have spellcheck. www.mozilla.com (http://www.mozilla.com)

Download and run Firefox, you'll never go back to IE. Spell check built in.

[mrs reb77]

I've been using it for years...didn't realize that was where my spell check was coming from though! I though my h-talk site was just better than other people's :o

[RoBoTeq]

Maybe. A big question hanging over McCain is his health. He's 70 years old and his medical record isn't good. They released his records and for the recent past he's been adding about 150 pages per year. That makes one wonder if a vote for McCain wont end up being a vote for his VP. Until that person is selected we don't know what we'll get. Maybe McCain will be fine his entire term. However the way our presidents age while in office doesn't bode well.

GW is excluded from aging in office. Why? 500+ days of vacation would do anyone good.
Well, aside from you having to include your snide remark about President Bush, who most certainly has aged quite a bit in eight years, I do agree that McCain's VP choice will be a major factor for some. For me, there is just no way I could trust Obama. He just feels slimy to me. There's just something about the man that makes me feel like he could care less about anyone but himself and his ideals, whatever they may be.

As for McCain's health, he could very well be good for another decade or two. It is no wonder his medical issues are what they are; the many was tortured for quite some time with nearly every bone in his body broken. That does not mean his life has been shortened though.