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Tool-Slinger
07-25-2008, 11:52 PM
Soooo, he is going to

**eliminate all nuclear weapons**
**establish a national peace-force as large and well funded as our entire military expediture**
**destrot 'walls' between poor countries and rich countries**
**establish strong global institutions**
**recognition of world citezenship**
**take money away from earners, and give it away to slackers as needed**
**save the planet from energy**

Yes He can! and on top of that declare peace and prosperity! :D

Dufus or marxists or anti-christ?

ga-hvac-tech
07-26-2008, 12:22 AM
Soooo, he is going to

**eliminate all nuclear weapons**
**establish a national peace-force as large and well funded as our entire military expediture**
**destrot 'walls' between poor countries and rich countries**
**establish strong global institutions**
**recognition of world citezenship**
**take money away from earners, and give it away to slackers as needed**
**save the planet from energy**

Yes He can! and on top of that declare peace and prosperity! :D

Dufus or marxists or anti-christ?

Lessee:

1) I would like to see him talk Putin's errand boy (Medvedev) into giving up the Russian nukes... it would be a cold day in the center of the earth (or that hot place down there) before Russia gives up their nukes. :rolleyes:
2) Yeah, on who's tax $$$? And who will they be enforcing on? Foreigners, or American citizens? :(
3) I am interested how he plans to do that... Seems others have promised this before. ;)
4) Global institutions? To do what??? Lets be careful what we obligate the USA to... :eek:
5) I wonder what 'rights' the world constitution will guarantee citizens of the world? :(
6) What is earned through barter and cash may not be taxable... :cool:
7) Who is going to save the planet from him? :eek:

Not sure if he is the Anti-Christ, but he sure acts like an agent for the opposite spiritual force...

skwsproul
07-26-2008, 12:53 AM
Holly crap! I thought I was the only person left who did not get my info from nbc abc or fox. It is amazing ,people keep an open mind and just try to get equal coverage for both parties from television alone. WAKE UP FELLOW AMERICANS YOU ARE BEING BRAINWASHED BY THOSE WITH CONTROL OVER THE TELEVISION. THOSE = BARACK OBAMA. If you disagree and are planning on voting for him, just do your country a favor and pay closer attention to what I said. NON BIAS COVERAGE DOES NOT EXIST ON CBS ABC OR FOX.

RoBoTeq
07-26-2008, 01:44 AM
Barack Hussein Obama certainly does say a lot without actually saying anything. It seems he just spouts out whatever he feels the people he is currently talking to want to hear.

The chant of "change" just scares the hell out of me without knowing what "change" this man has in mind.

He himself has certainly "changed" to suit his needs. He "changed" from being a man of mixed race to a Black man. He "changed" the timeline for his birth in conjunction with the Selma, AL desegregation. He "changed" his church affiliation and long time mentor. He "changed" his timeline on the U.S. leaving Iraq.

Obama really is a man of "change". Just not someone I want to put my trust in because I won't ever know when he is going to "change" into something really disasterous for my country.

skwsproul
07-26-2008, 01:49 AM
Barack Hussein Obama certainly does say a lot without actually saying anything. It seems he just spouts out whatever he feels the people he is currently talking to want to hear.

The chant of "change" just scares the hell out of me without knowing what "change" this man has in mind.

He himself has certainly "changed" to suit his needs. He "changed" from being a man of mixed race to a Black man. He "changed" the timeline for his birth in conjunction with the Selma, AL desegregation. He "changed" his church affiliation and long time mentor. He "changed" his timeline on the U.S. leaving Iraq.

Obama really is a man of "change". Just not someone I want to put my trust in because I won't ever know when he is going to "change" into something really disasterous for my country.

That was the funniest part about his and Clintons campaigns they spoke of this change and never even for a second explained what the hell they were going to change and how.

Tool-Slinger
07-26-2008, 12:58 PM
Here are some cool exerpts I cherry-picked out of obamas' berlin speech:

''Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen - a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.''

''People of the world: now do your duty...'' [kinda bossy,huh?]

''People of the world - look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one.'''

''As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.'' [yeah, and your motorcade idling out back with the a/c cranked-up full blast]

''The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. '' [no borders at all?]
''The walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.'' [I still say good fences make good neighbors, be it 'immigrants' from the south or muslims, there are some substantial numbers within those ranks I am not having alot of warm-fuzzies about.]

''But the task is never easy. True partnership and true progress requires constant work and sustained sacrifice. They require sharing the burdens of development...'' [from each according to his abilities and to each according to his needs?]

''This is the moment when we must renew the goal of a world without nuclear weapons.....''
''This is the moment to begin the work of seeking the peace of a world without nuclear weapons.'' [yeah, sure buddy, you gonna send in that sqadron of flying pigs after those nasty nukes?]

''This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably.'' [better idea, you keep your grubby paws off the wealth that is being created and let it keep creating wealth rather than killing it with your re-distribution concept]

''to sustain this growth if it favors the few, and not the many.''

''People of Berlin - and people of the world - .... With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again.''

WOW! Such a rich environment of targets! AND THAT WAS ONLY ONE SPEECH!! I am just giddy! This guy sounds like a #1 ACE socialist/marxist/one-world govornment whack-job. Hellsbells, he ain't even waiting to win the US election, he is already extending his campaign into europe! Now that is what I call CONFIDENCE!!!

I'll take a shot at answering my own earlier question, this is going to be a little sloppy and 'conditional' but here goes: We know he is a marxist communist undeniable from a multitude of statements. Now if he gets trounced in the election by an America that rejects his marxist philosophy and open borders fetish then he will be a proven dufus. [libs will whine in protest, ''but he did [I]so cherry in the european opinion polls!''] If he wins the election and accomplishes nothing as the world-course pretty much steam-rolls around his presidency like usual, then all of his lofty and unaccomplished goals will be just egg on his face, dufus with extra egg. But if he gets elected and actually achieved all of his lofty goals- one world, world-peace, no nukes, no borders, great weather, money for everyone,.. then he may be 'the one' , you know who I mean, the messiah? :D:D:D

Speech-link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/24/obama-in-berlin-video-of_n_114771.html

ga-hvac-tech
07-26-2008, 01:21 PM
The candidate reminds me of a tele-vangelist... :D And we know where most of them end up... :eek:

The last few weeks, even NPR (National Public Radio), the bastion of liberalism, has been asking some hard questions about the 'golden boy'...

And the other day, I read in the Economist (magazine) that just because the world thinks he is a great orator and speaker; rather the Americans should be carefully thinking about what he stands for, what he plans to do, and what they do not know about him.

Funny how the 3 networks are google-eyed (no reference to the search engine) about anyone that makes ratings; but never question what they say...

MeThinks the American public may just wake up before they make a mistake they will regret for 4 years (or until someone resolves it in a less than legal way). I truly hope the latter does not happen for two reasons (both reasons IMO); this country has had enough struggles in recent years, and the other is that the resulting in-stability would not be a good thing for Americans or for the world.

One thing is for sure; this will probably be the most interesting campaign we have seen in many a year, and for many reasons!!!!! :rolleyes::cool::D

meoberry
07-26-2008, 01:33 PM
This guy is a joke. He says one thing a couple of months later changes his position. That must be what he means by change. As for geting the muslims to accept other religions. He needs to check his history books. Thats been tried for over 2000 years. Its against there religion.

Tearing down borders?? He must be insane. Will never work, to many like the power the have they are not going to give it up without a fight. So there goes any chance of peace.

National Healthcare?? Yeah right. We already have that down here its called medicaid. It sucks. The only way you can get help is if you don't work. Next you will have a waiting list to see a doctor. Medication in all its safety. Will be prescribed for everyone. Just guess who pushing this one. Bet you he owns alot of stock in a drug company.

Final Point: He wants the government to control our entire life. That my friend is communism.

bootlen
07-26-2008, 03:45 PM
Yup. He's not running just for POTUS. He's running for EOTW.

meoberry
07-26-2008, 05:44 PM
The candidate reminds me of a tele-vangelist... :D And we know where most of them end up... oAnd the ther day, read in the Economist (magazine) that just because the world thinks he isI ; rather the Americans :eek:

The last few weeks, even NPR (National Public Radio), the bastion of liberalism, has been asking some hard questions about the 'golden boy'...

should be carefully thinking about what he stands for, what he plans to do, and what they do not know about him.

Funny how the 3 networks are google-eyed (no reference to the search engine) about anyone that makes ratings; but never question what they say...

MeThinks the American public may just wake up before they make a mistake they will regret for 4 years (or until someone resolves it in a less than legal way). I truly hope the latter does not happen for two reasons (both reasons IMO); this country has had enough struggles in recent years, and the other is that the resulting in-stability would not be a good thing for Americans or for the world.

One thing is for sure; this will probably be the most interesting campaign we have seen in many a year, and for many reasons!!!!! :rolleyes::cool::D

Hitler was said to be one of the greatest orators. Look at his record.

TB
07-27-2008, 02:13 AM
''This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably.''




Translation:

''This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets (American Capitalism) have created, and share (re-distribute) its benefits more equitably.'' (the US hasn't been doing a good enough job pulling your weight)


What intrests me is this effort won't get far while the US legally owns firearms, yet the proposal is being made in the wake of the Supreme Court's upholding the 2'nd amendment in DC.

Kinda sounds to me a little remenicent of Gen.11 and the tower of Babel episode.

RoBoTeq
07-27-2008, 02:16 AM
The only religion pushing for all the world to be as one is the Islamic faith. Could Obama be figuring on uniting the world by making us all Muslim? Well, that would be a "change", now wouldn't it?

Skip 2 my lou
07-27-2008, 02:24 AM
Barack Hussein Obama certainly does say a lot without actually saying anything. It seems he just spouts out whatever he feels the people he is currently talking to want to hear.

The chant of "change" just scares the hell out of me without knowing what "change" this man has in mind.

He himself has certainly "changed" to suit his needs. He "changed" from being a man of mixed race to a Black man. He "changed" the timeline for his birth in conjunction with the Selma, AL desegregation. He "changed" his church affiliation and long time mentor. He "changed" his timeline on the U.S. leaving Iraq.

Obama really is a man of "change". Just not someone I want to put my trust in because I won't ever know when he is going to "change" into something really disasterous for my country.

I never wanted to agree with robo, but sure you're right. With platform of hope and change, he's fooled us into a presidential holocaust.

TB
07-27-2008, 02:37 AM
I never wanted to agree with robo, .
Sometimes, you just can't help agreeing with him, but we wont hold that against you. :D

glennac
07-27-2008, 11:50 AM
Sometimes, you just can't help agreeing with him, but we wont hold that against you. :D

Maybe we should all send robo a bottle of good "colone" to show him how much we appreciate his witty posts.:D:D:D

meoberry
07-27-2008, 12:18 PM
Translation:

''This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets (American Capitalism) have created, and share (re-distribute) its benefits more equitably.'' (the US hasn't been doing a good enough job pulling your weight)


What intrests me is this effort won't get far while the US legally owns firearms, yet the proposal is being made in the wake of the Supreme Court's upholding the 2'nd amendment in DC.

Kinda sounds to me a little remenicent of Gen.11 and the tower of Babel episode.

He has to get the firearms out of our hands. So that he can force us to conform to his or the government wishes. Our forefathers originally intended for the American people to help protect the nation and to keep the government in line. If you watch what is happening today. You are not innocent until proven guilty. You only get as much justice as you can afford to pay for.

glennac
07-27-2008, 12:47 PM
He has to get the firearms out of our hands. So that he can force us to conform to his or the government wishes. Our forefathers originally intended for the American people to help protect the nation and to keep the government in line. If you watch what is happening today. You are not innocent until proven guilty. You only get as much justice as you can afford to pay for.

You got that right. Before you can have total government control you have to disarm the citizens.

To clean up our lopsided judicial system they need to make prosecutors fully accountable for their actions. In other words they can't add extra charges on someone when they know they are innocent of those charges in order to get them to plead bargain for a charge where it is not clear they they are guilty of. They make a defendant play Russian roulette with their lives and a lot of innocent folks plead guilty to avoid going down the river forever.

They should be required to play fair and the defense attorneys also shouldn't be allowed to say that they know their client is innocent also unless they have personal knowledge of the fact. The system should be fair and honest and not how many folks you can convict

RoBoTeq
07-27-2008, 02:07 PM
Maybe we should all send robo a bottle of good "colone" to show him how much we appreciate his witty posts.:D:D:D
A "good" cologne, manufactured without chemical scents, would be fine by me:p

I just don't want to be around any of that cheap crap that most people wear way too much of:rolleyes:

RoBoTeq
07-27-2008, 03:00 PM
Sometimes, you just can't help agreeing with him, but we wont hold that against you. :D
At first when people who normally want to disagree with me start agreeing with me, they may feel a slight sense of euphoria with a hint of superiority. That is normal but will decrease as one who agrees with me settles into a comfort zone of just knowing that they are finally right about things;)

tunnel_rat
07-27-2008, 06:32 PM
The candidate reminds me of a tele-vangelist... :D And we know where most of them end up... :eek:



Exactly, and a SLEAZY one at that......................;)

meoberry
08-02-2008, 08:12 PM
You got that right. Before you can have total government control you have to disarm the citizens.

To clean up our lopsided judicial system they need to make prosecutors fully accountable for their actions. In other words they can't add extra charges on someone when they know they are innocent of those charges in order to get them to plead bargain for a charge where it is not clear they they are guilty of. They make a defendant play Russian roulette with their lives and a lot of innocent folks plead guilty to avoid going down the river forever.

They should be required to play fair and the defense attorneys also shouldn't be allowed to say that they know their client is innocent also unless they have personal knowledge of the fact. The system should be fair and honest and not how many folks you can convict

Now this guy wants a police force as large as our military. To what purpose? This will lead the way to complete control. The reason for the military to be split into different organizations was eleminate the chance of a military coo. With a national police force, the threat especially as large as the military becomes very real. This guy not only wants to be president of the US but also wants to be president of the world. Scary ain't it?

I am just a dumb ole country boy but I can see what is going on.

As for our so called justice system. I have watched an innocent man spend 30,000 dollars for legal fees have to plea bargain because he was broke. All that because he told a little 14 year girl that made a pass at him. That he was going to tell her folks about it. She called the police. You are guilty when it comes to child molestation unless you have a witness on your side. You cannot bring in character witneses against a juvenile. You cannot bring up there past record. Although she has done this before to another man. Now for the rest of his life he is marked as a sexual preditor. Can't be around schools. Can't even take his kids to the playground. This guy I have known for over 10 years and he married to my sister. He is so honest it is sickning.
I know the little girl too. She was what we called when I was in school a sl**. Looks like she has not bathed in a couple of weeks everytime I saw her.

Also have a cousin who bought a pistol from a boy. He spent 25,000 then had to plea out, because the boy he bought the gun from stole it from his grand father. The boy turned states evidence because he was involved in at least four other breakins with three other boys. He got a slap on the hand. My cousin from the time he was old enough to talk wanted to be a police man. Had already started the process of going to the courses he had to take. All gone he can never be a police offer since he has a conviction of purchasing a stolen hand gun. He was 18 years old.

Just as I told them when I was called to jury duty. (I have no faith in the florida judicial system) They excused me from jury duty.

TB
08-03-2008, 02:43 AM
At first when people who normally want to disagree with me start agreeing with me, they may feel a slight sense of euphoria with a hint of superiority. That is normal but will decrease as one who agrees with me settles into a comfort zone of just knowing that they are finally right about things;)

:D

ga-hvac-tech
08-03-2008, 10:02 AM
Hey TB,

Good Scripture in your sig line! I think some of the problems in our country would be solved if Christians would follow that teaching.

And since it is Sunday morning as I type, time to head for the Church building and worship God.

TB
08-05-2008, 01:18 AM
Thanks amigo, I need to keep it in mind myself,-- as I post in ARP. :)

ga-hvac-tech
08-05-2008, 09:13 AM
Yeah, that humble stuff does not come easy, for lots of reasons.

But I do find that regular 'chat time' with 'Papa' (God) seems to keep me in balance a little better.

Have you read 'The Shack' yet? Number 1 on the bestseller list, and has already passed up 'Purpose Driven Live' in sales. Worth a read IMO!!!

Have a GREAT one!

TB
08-05-2008, 09:18 PM
But I do find that regular 'chat time' with 'Papa' (God) seems to keep me in balance a little better.



...like rolling a marble down the keen edge of a blade.:rolleyes:

ga-hvac-tech
08-05-2008, 09:52 PM
Well, I am not sure if I could roll a marble down a knife, my hands are not that stable anymore (age)...

But as far as keeping my mind out of the gutter and staying focused on God; yeah those chats seem to help.

Back on the thread subject; Check out this link:

http://www.phforamerica.com/

Worth some careful thought if you ask me.

glennac
08-05-2008, 10:21 PM
Well, I am not sure if I could roll a marble down a knife, my hands are not that stable anymore (age)...

But as far as keeping my mind out of the gutter and staying focused on God; yeah those chats seem to help.

Back on the thread subject; Check out this link:

http://www.phforamerica.com/

Worth some careful thought if you ask me.

Very good John. I wonder why this hasn't been broadcast before. Obama is the anti Christ of our time. He will be poison for America if elected.

k-fridge
08-05-2008, 10:41 PM
Wow!

ga-hvac-tech
08-05-2008, 10:45 PM
Not that I am trying to be a trend-setter (well maybe I am...)

But I think the link posted above might be worth spreading around. It would KILL any chance of BHO getting any of the church vote.

Now if we can figure out how to get the women turned against him, then get the Hispanic turned against him, and maybe even some of the African population...

This will truly be one of the most fun election cycles to watch in a L O N G time.

Tool-Slinger
08-05-2008, 10:48 PM
Not that I am trying to be a trend-setter (well maybe I am...)

But I think the link posted above might be worth spreading around. It would KILL any chance of BHO getting any of the church vote.

Now if we can figure out how to get the women turned against him, then get the Hispanic turned against him, and maybe even some of the African population...

This will truly be one of the most fun election cycles to watch in a L O N G time.
Superman[glennac] has it right, BHO is is evil. It ain't funny this election, serious this time..

ga-hvac-tech
08-05-2008, 10:51 PM
Superman[glennac] has it right, BHO is is evil. It ain't funny this election, serious this time..

Oh, I agree with Glenn; BHO is a danger to the world.

My comment was that it will be fun to watch the way one of the candidates makes an utter fool of himself (and I hope he takes his party with him).

My apologies if I suggested BHO is funny, he is at best pathetic. :eek:

Tool-Slinger
08-05-2008, 10:55 PM
Oh, I agree with Glenn; BHO is a danger to the world.

My comment was that it will be fun to watch the way one of the candidates makes an utter fool of himself (and I hope he takes his party with him).

My apologies if I suggested BHO is funny, he is at best pathetic. :eek:
LOL! Both candidates make fools of themselves! I just want obama to be toast, pollutes my posts a tad. :D

meoberry
08-06-2008, 07:11 PM
Very good John. I wonder why this hasn't been broadcast before. Obama is the anti Christ of our time. He will be poison for America if elected.

This will not be aired as long as the liberal media has any say so. They won't run it the only ones that might is FOX.

ga-hvac-tech
08-06-2008, 07:14 PM
This will not be aired as long as the liberal media has any say so. They won't run it the only ones that might is FOX.

Ever notice that less and less folks pay attention to the liberal media??? Wonder why... :cool::D

skwsproul
08-06-2008, 07:34 PM
At first when people who normally want to disagree with me start agreeing with me, they may feel a slight sense of euphoria with a hint of superiority. That is normal but will decrease as one who agrees with me settles into a comfort zone of just knowing that they are finally right about things;)
Wait a minute. Are you Obama? or Have you just been listening to his arrogant holier than tho speeches too long?:D
That was the funniest self gloat that I have heard all day thanks.:D

Almost as good as: I was almost wrong once...... but it turned out that someone else gave me the wrong information.

I am settling into a comfort zone ....... now that I have quit laughing and my side is not hurting as bad.:D

McLurkavelli!
08-13-2008, 12:02 PM
That was the funniest part about his and Clintons campaigns they spoke of this change and never even for a second explained what the hell they were going to change and how.
this is common marxist propoganda. the change means whatever the audience listening wants it to mean. the only thing for certain is none of us will have any "change" left in our pockets if this man becomes president. :D

tonys
08-13-2008, 12:18 PM
"the church vote"

now THAT's comedy - golden.

tonys
08-13-2008, 12:20 PM
Very good John. I wonder why this hasn't been broadcast before. Obama is the anti Christ of our time. He will be poison for America if elected.

Sean Hannity?
is that YOU??

when did you join this web-board???

McLurkavelli!
08-13-2008, 01:24 PM
Sean Hannity?
is that YOU??

when did you join this web-board???
a video response for you! :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8Yip47M-4