Thermoprides are leaving

[selfemployed]

Well the cost of oil is starting to change furnaces. Maybe the oil belt will disapear. I suggested we replace the AC unit with and HP in the near future also. House was built in the early 60's so there is no insulation in the walls but 10" has been added overhead. Supplies are on the inside walls so it would cost quite a bit in reducting before I would go straight HP on a house like this. Still some things to finish but the AC is back on.

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[coolwhip]

Why all the foil tape on the return?

[selfemployed]

Why all the foil tape on the return?

Although many have tried to get it changed they still make us seal the pittsburgh :mad:

[sir fix alot]

come on take the picture a little higher so we can see the transition on the supply.. nice and clean

[mayguy]

Why the LARGE drain pan? Looks this is in a basement, and could of gotten by with just a small one, or none.

[HeyBob]

I can only see the "before"

[mayguy]

I can only see the "before"

Would you like me to loan you my cleaner for your glasses? ;-)

[sirjames]

With a fitting that large on the return you might want to think about using them.

[selfemployed]

fix a lot - I replaced the plenum but will get a pic.

mayguy - Part of the basement is a finished space so we use a pan here. I asked the head mechanical inspector ( what about if the humidifier on the return leaks?) He questioned the state last year during their meeting and they said international code doesn't require protection at this time. I had the room and chose to do it. Condensate pumps do require a pan with a safety switch in it.

HeyBob - I'll get the real after pic :D

sirjames - I agree, will ask the metal shop whats up.

[HeyBob]

Would you like me to loan you my cleaner for your glasses? ;-)

Done! I can see it now! :D

[millerman]

We do an awful lot of oil to gas. What a shame. They will NEVER get a payback oh, guess what, natural gas is going up 30-70%. That Old Thermopride would have outlasted that new Rheem easily. We are doing a lot of duel fuel heat pumps with oil also, they are the lucky ones. Guess which fuel will fluctuate!
Side mount the filter can to the furnace then attach the return, makes for a cleaner look, just my opinion.

[BaldLoonie]

That appears to be a 20x25 Bear. If attached to the side of the furnace, the opening in the furnace will be 16x25 so he is getting fuller use of the filter the way he did it. In this application, we would have used a right angle bear for ease of install.

[amd]

We do an awful lot of oil to gas. What a shame. They will NEVER get a payback oh, guess what, natural gas is going up 30-70%. That Old Thermopride would have outlasted that new Rheem easily. We are doing a lot of duel fuel heat pumps with oil also, they are the lucky ones. Guess which fuel will fluctuate!
Side mount the filter can to the furnace then attach the return, makes for a cleaner look, just my opinion.

Oil is also going up. :p

With supply concerns and the cost of gas/oil increasing, it's time to get away from furnaces completely. (If not soon enough, everyone will be screwed when supply doesn't even meet demand)

[selfemployed]

The origional furnace had a 25w x 30"d supply plenum. When the thermopride was installed they didn't change it. So I started with a 25x30 plenum and a coil connection of 20x20. Thats why there is 13" throat on the return fitting. It will make a good place for the AA humidifier though. Another pic will help.

[Lash]

Crossbreaks and a turning vein in that elbow would be nice. But otherwise it looks good!

[millerman]

Oil is also going up. :p

With supply concerns and the cost of gas/oil increasing, it's time to get away from furnaces completely. (If not soon enough, everyone will be screwed when supply doesn't even meet demand)

So what would be your solution? No furnaces or air handlers? We do allot of ground source units as well, funny thing about that, electric rates are going way up as well and even though we have rivers that run through it, most of our electricity comes from Natural gas powered stations. Oil will go down:p

[comfort comando]

oil has been on a climb for a while. with gas going up it evens the field. when Bush said we could drill off shore for oil prices dropped and have been dropping for a while. where north west natural gas announced they would raise not out on the bills yet, we have a decline in the oil to gas conversions. staying with oil and putting there money towards a heat pump should have a better choice. the install is looking good though.

[pulse21]

Just kidding dude good looking work as always, hey give me a call when you get a chance I'd like to know where you get youre metal made up I need a new place (you probally know why):cool:

[RyanHughes]

Looks good. I can see that you were not finished when the pictures were taken, but do you plan on replacing that old condensate pump? Or maybe it's in good condition?

[selfemployed]

Rhyan - Pump is in good shape. Most of the new ones have shallow sumps and cycle to much anyway.
sirjames - As for the cross break the metal shop admitted the return section should have had it and future work will. Thanks for the input.

Thought I'd try a video instead of still pics. Harder to catch things so to speak.

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[hvaclover]

Rhyan - Pump is in good shape. Most of the new ones have shallow sumps and cycle to much anyway.
sirjames - As for the cross break the metal shop admitted the return section should have had it and future work will. Thanks for the input.

Thought I'd try a video instead of still pics. Harder to catch things so to speak.

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Yeah gotta agree that cross breaks would have been a nice touch.

Looks kinda nude with out them.

[j0joe33]

Rhyan - Pump is in good shape. Most of the new ones have shallow sumps and cycle to much anyway.
sirjames - As for the cross break the metal shop admitted the return section should have had it and future work will. Thanks for the input.

Thought I'd try a video instead of still pics. Harder to catch things so to speak.

http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0920jh3.flv

Those "shallow sumps" are low profile condensate pumps. They are used for down-flow furnaces that have drain pans very close to floor level. They still make the deeper models. Ask your local wholesaler to stock 'em for ya.