My, my...

[bootlen]

...the things you don't see on the news.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gUzCIe4JyTofL4u4RnaUn-75BV2QD91NRH480

In the rolled "r" words of Artie Johnson..."V-e-e-r-y interesting."

But I'm sure this will be the last we see of this.

[everythingair]

While this is indeed "veeerry interesting", it is not absolute proof that Saddam Hussein was using or planning to use this yellowcake material for the building of weapons. It is noted that Saddam Hussein was using the yellowcake for use in nuclear reactors, so the claim that this material was being used for the production of energy holds up. Then again, there have been other purchases and attempted purchases by Hussein (same as Barak Obama's middle name) that would indicate that he was also wanting to or planning to use this material for weaponry.

It is so distressing that nuclear energy can be used for so much good in the world and yet can also be so misused to do harm to the world. What we may need is a worldwide nuclear facilities management program that will ensure that nuclear energy is available to all nations without the worry that some nations may abuse it.

[sysint]

Can someone tell me why a country with lots of sun and basically uninhabited desert needs nuclear power instead of solar?

[Remodeltdt01]

Can someone tell me why a country with lots of sun and basically uninhabited desert needs nuclear power instead of solar?

Maybe because they occasionally have cloudy days and it actually gets dark at night.

[sysint]

Solar still works during cloudy days and you design the system to work during daylight and store the extra energy generated to release at night.

[Remodeltdt01]

Solar still works during cloudy days and you design the system to work during daylight and store the extra energy generated to release at night.


How many batteries would that take to power an entire country for 12 hours? :rolleyes:

[sysint]

Well, if you take all that profit from the oil and dump a small percentage into R&D for that instead of nukes you probably have high energy capacitors developed and running by now.

(note I didn't go with batteries) It's OK to be Mr. Random Contrary Guy but at least understand what the other guy is saying before posting your 2" hurdles. 'K?

[Remodeltdt01]

Well, if you take all that profit from the oil and dump a small percentage into R&D for that instead of nukes you probably have high energy capacitors developed and running by now.

(note I didn't go with batteries) It's OK to be Mr. Random Contrary Guy but at least understand what the other guy is saying before posting your 2" hurdles. 'K?

So you've answered your own question. There isn't a technology for storing energy that is applicable for large scale use. K?

[mrs reb77]

Can someone tell me why a country with lots of sun and basically uninhabited desert needs nuclear power instead of solar?

Nope.

I think that was the point of questioning their ownership of this material.

[coordinatesales]

As I understand it, most of our energy use is during the day when solar would work well. The reduced demand at night can easily be handled by our existing facilities.

[Remodeltdt01]

As I understand it, most of our energy use is during the day when solar would work well. The reduced demand at night can easily be handled by our existing facilities.

Here in the US that's true, at least until the use of plug in electric vehicles start to see widespread use. Unfortunately solar power can't fully support our energy usage during the day, though that doesn't mean we shouldn't be building as many as we can.

[Remodeltdt01]

I'm somewhat surprised by the current administration. I thought they would jump on this to recover some credibility they lost with those elusive weapons of mass destruction.

[mrs reb77]

Maybe there is still more that needs to be kept secret from the enemies of our enemies? ;)

[Remodeltdt01]

Maybe there is still more that needs to be kept secret from the enemies of our enemies? ;)

LOL!

[bootlen]

Sour grapes.

[tunnel_rat]

I'm somewhat surprised by the current administration. I thought they would jump on this to recover some credibility they lost with those elusive weapons of mass destruction.

The only credibility they lost was with those who won't believe the report anyway. I doubt they have time to worry about praising themselves for doing the right thing, they have real issues to deal with. Besides, the media will do their best not to let it get out too much.

When WMD is your only supposed reason, of many given, you can convieniently remember for the war at all, all the AP stories to the contrary of your beliefs will be dismissed. Nevermind that our planes were being shot at on a daily basis in the "no-fly zones". Can you say 'act of war'? But they could care less about little details like that.

[bootlen]

I'm somewhat surprised by the current administration. I thought they would jump on this to recover some credibility they lost with those elusive weapons of mass destruction.

Speaking of elusive WMD's...see if you can find any in the document found in the link below.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

[bootlen]

Did I just hear a pin drop?

[sysint]

So you've answered your own question. There isn't a technology for storing energy that is applicable for large scale use. K?Another 2" hurdle. Actually being developed in the US for release later this year.

So tell me why can't a country that has the ability and the right land area to take solar power to the next level do it? -- It's simple. They wanted to be able to make bombs instead.

'K now?....

[Remodeltdt01]

Speaking of elusive WMD's...see if you can find any in the document found in the link below.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html


It's full of WMDs, all to bolster their case to invade. All we need to do now is find those elusive WMDs. Maybe they're under a rock someplace??

[Remodeltdt01]

Another 2" hurdle. Actually being developed in the US for release later this year.

So tell me why can't a country that has the ability and the right land area to take solar power to the next level do it? -- It's simple. They wanted to be able to make bombs instead.

'K now?....

Revolutionary improvements in battery and super capacitor technology are always "just a few months" away. As we all know these almost never occur. Regardless, even if a major improvement is made in a lab, translating that to the magnitude to power an entire city is an entirely different matter. Please post a link for this supposed new, world shaking technology that we will see within 6 months. Oops, sorry, another 2" hurdle. Hmm, maybe this new technology has a 2" hurdle that will prevent it too.

Why can't a country like Iraq or Iran take solar power to the next level? That depends on what "the next level" means. Yes, they could cover their country with solar panels and have a significant, if not total, reduction of the requirements for other power sources during the day. As of today there is no way they can store enough of that power to cover even a minor portion of their nightly power needs.

Why didn't they go ahead with it anyway? Why should they? They're sitting on a fortune of oil.

Why did they make bombs instead? They're a nation, and almost all nations make bombs. What was the yellow cake for? Probably for bomb production, but having the materials and following through are 2 different things.

Invading Iraq because they might have materials to make a nuke is hypocritical when a country known as a sponsor of terrorism and known to have nukes is 2 countries away.

[sysint]

It only took you how long(?) to start to get a clue.... and now that you have researched something you toss out a comment with no backing and no clout.

Then you finally admit they are probably making some bombs....

T. Boone Pickens is even dumping money into renewables. Any country sitting on alot of oil should see the handwriting on the wall. Even Pickens can figure that out.

Besides, Iraq wouldn't have to cover the entire country in solar. Actually, if they cover 19% of the country with existing technology they could supply power to the world and use the excess heat to power desalinization plants for water. (just a thought)

EDIT: To answer your garbage questions because you got nothing the capacitor company is out of Texas and called eestor. Look it up. Parabolic solar is the existing tech that Iraq could use in their desert. Post later after you learn something to match your off-the-cuff, cock-sure response platform. (O-CRP for short)

[Remodeltdt01]

It only took you how long(?) to start to get a clue.... and now that you have researched something you toss out a comment with no backing and no clout.

Then you finally admit they are probably making some bombs....


No where did I ever state that they weren't making bombs. Please read the entire thread before you start posting responses.



T. Boone Pickens is even dumping money into renewables. Any country sitting on alot of oil should see the handwriting on the wall. Even Pickens can figure that out.

Besides, Iraq wouldn't have to cover the entire country in solar. Actually, if they cover 19% of the country with existing technology they could supply power to the world and use the excess heat to power desalinization plants for water. (just a thought)

EDIT: To answer your garbage questions because you got nothing the capacitor company is out of Texas and called eestor. Look it up. Parabolic solar is the existing tech that Iraq could use in their desert. Post later after you learn something to match your off-the-cuff, cock-sure response platform. (O-CRP for short)

EEstor's patent is for an ultracapacitor that is 1000X the capacity other researchers have been able to achieve. If they can actually produce it, then they will have a great product. However, until they're actually producing it and prove they can produce in volume it's still a phantom product.

[sysint]

"I thought they would jump on this to recover some credibility they lost with those elusive weapons of mass destruction."

"It's full of WMDs, all to bolster their case to invade. All we need to do now is find those elusive WMDs. Maybe they're under a rock someplace??"

"Why did they make bombs instead? They're a nation, and almost all nations make bombs. What was the yellow cake for? Probably for bomb production, but having the materials and following through are 2 different things."

"No where did I ever state that they weren't making bombs. Please read the entire thread before you start posting responses." I guess you need to be a politician. Regarding eestor, you know next to nothing about them or the technology but you post like you are a genius when in all probability and reality dictates you googled it as your response is eerily similar to the top search comments.

[Remodeltdt01]

I guess you need to be a politician. Regarding eestor, you know next to nothing about them or the technology but you post like you are a genius when in all probability and reality dictates you googled it as your response is eerily similar to the top search comments.


I'm not following your post. As your quoting shows, I've never stated that they didn't develop bombs. And, yes I googled eestor as you wanted me to. Did you want me to ignore that or ignore what I found? I'm not an employee of eestor; should I move there and get a job with them before I can respond?
:confused:

[razorwit]

The OP makes a good observation.
The yellow cake component has been denied ad-nauseum by liberals seeking to minimize the Iraqi threat under the Saddam regime in an attempt to add credibility to their argument that there were no WMD's.
The fact that there were these materials in Iraq while Saddam was in power further legitimizes how important it was to remove him.

[razorwit]

I'm not following your post. As your quoting shows, I've never stated that they didn't develop bombs. And, yes I googled eestor as you wanted me to. Did you want me to ignore that or ignore what I found? I'm not an employee of eestor; should I move there and get a job with them before I can respond?
:confused:


I commend you for continuing to bang your head against a wall.:D:D