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wolfstrike
06-29-2008, 08:10 PM
40 Reasons to Ban Guns


1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates,which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting,government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's,anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations,variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA was a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

RoBoTeq
06-30-2008, 12:33 AM
Call me a liberal, but I have to disagree with all of those reasons;)

John Culpepper
06-30-2008, 01:29 AM
That is B.S.

chaard
06-30-2008, 05:38 AM
2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

That one alone show's your whole thinking is flawed.

Java Bob
06-30-2008, 05:54 AM
worst than B. S.

The Doctor
06-30-2008, 06:10 AM
Thank you for a wonderful glimpse into the circular (non) reasoning of the modern-day liberal.
Except for some wording changes to #18, that list is a keeper. On that note, do we have to include the part in 18 about "responsible for school shootings"? It sort of detracts from the sarcasm.

I know, I know ...liberals think this stuff. But it still doesn't quite work there.


Otherwise, thanks again. That is a great way to start one's day! :D

cehs
06-30-2008, 07:05 AM
I thought ALL 40 reasons were SARCASM....

Or am I misinterpreting the list?

:D

whec720
06-30-2008, 07:28 AM
To appease the fascists because, we all know, by doing so, they will leave us alone..:rolleyes:

wolfstrike
06-30-2008, 05:09 PM
I thought ALL 40 reasons were SARCASM....


shhhhhhhhh
:)

tunnel_rat
06-30-2008, 07:20 PM
shhhhhhhhh
:)

:D...Sheees, I thought it was pretty obvious.....:p

jpb2
06-30-2008, 07:26 PM
I believe in gun conrtol as a measure to reduce crime. If you need to use both hands do so to control the gun:D

Wolfer
06-30-2008, 07:37 PM
Heres one good reason that gun control wont work against crime.

80% of criminals in incarceration say they got the gun from family, friends or a street buy.

The Doctor
06-30-2008, 11:37 PM
I thought ALL 40 reasons were SARCASM....

Or am I misinterpreting the list?

:D

They had better be. There's way too much truth between the lines. Liberals can't hear the sheer idiocy of their own ideas, but that number 18 for example was an easy target for those who could hear the truth through ALL the sarcasm, but might get reoffended by tragic memories. Of course, they already are offended because they're LIBERALS! But I digress. :cool::cool:

chaard
07-01-2008, 08:47 AM
OK I'm a little slow, but Libs probably believe this stuff.

If we keep citizens unarmed, crime will go down.:rolleyes:

And even if a criminal didn't have a gun that doesn't mean they can't use other weapons like fear, knives, etc.

forged alloy
07-01-2008, 09:01 AM
Think of it as an investment. If they ban gun ownership, the worth of all of our guns will skyrocket

HVAC talk members will be rich! Many of us anyway

NormChris
07-15-2008, 05:19 PM
Did you know that it is perfectly legal to openly carry a firearm in most states? And, in many states you do not need a concealed carry permit to do so.

I researched the law in South Dakota, Wyoming and Colorado and learned that as long as the gun was in plain sight (I carried it in a holster on my belt) it is legal. I then took a trip thru all three of those states, stopping at gas stations, rest stops, restaurants and motels without covering the gun whatsover.

In all three states I ran across officers who saw my firearm and they never so much as talked to me although the noticed. One simply nodded positively and went about his business while I ate at my table and he at his.

There is currently an Open Carry movement across the U.S. which started in the State of Virginia and has spread across the country. There is an open carry website based in VA dedicated to those who openly carry a sidearm in public.

Members discuss the state laws and their experiences with law enforcement. That is what got me to step out and give it a try myself. I also happen to have a concealed carry permit and have carried concealed for years. Now, in hotter weather I carry openly and have not had any problems. I have had a few people question me. That affords an opportunity for me to educate them regarding the law.

Norm Chris

coordinatesales
07-15-2008, 05:37 PM
I checked out that movement myself but unfortunately, Oklahoma is very clear and open carry is against the law, concealed carry is only legal with the permit. The permit and a gun small enough to comfortably conceal (that I like) is more than I can afford right now. :mad:

NormChris
07-15-2008, 05:53 PM
I checked out that movement myself but unfortunately, Oklahoma is very clear and open carry is against the law, concealed carry is only legal with the permit. The permit and a gun small enough to comfortably conceal (that I like) is more than I can afford right now. :mad:

There is currently a movement in Oklahoma to change the law. Check out what www.opencarry.org has to say. They are active in every state now and growing. Many police officers are in favor of open carry and many of the members of opencarry.org are officers.

NormChris
07-15-2008, 05:55 PM
Anyway, I started a new thread on this topic here in the ARP section.

wallynut
07-16-2008, 07:15 AM
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bootlen
07-16-2008, 07:59 AM
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/793/ifgunskillpeopleip8.jpg

I LOVE it!

acmanko
07-16-2008, 08:12 AM
while firearms are controversial ,one can actually have a civil war era cannon legally. go figure.

chaard
07-16-2008, 09:02 AM
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/793/ifgunskillpeopleip8.jpg

That's great!

fixacr
07-16-2008, 04:02 PM
The recent Supreme Court ruling is a morale booster for those of us who still believe in the Second Amendment, but we can't relax yet. Schools, Hollywood and others are trying very hard to teach our kids and grand-kids to be afraid of guns. If the current elementary and junior high population is conditioned to almost wet their pants in fear at the mere sight of a gun, what do you think is going happen in 10 or 15 years when they start voting?

Remodeltdt01
07-16-2008, 05:42 PM
I had a good laugh until I hit #21. Hmmm. Sometimes that one is true. ;)

NormChris
07-16-2008, 06:15 PM
The recent Supreme Court ruling is a morale booster for those of us who still believe in the Second Amendment, but we can't relax yet. Schools, Hollywood and others are trying very hard to teach our kids and grand-kids to be afraid of guns. If the current elementary and junior high population is conditioned to almost wet their pants in fear at the mere sight of a gun, what do you think is going happen in 10 or 15 years when they start voting?

In states where open carry is legal it is an interesting political statement to wear a sidearm while shopping or going about your daily tasks. It often turns into a nice conversation regarding our legal rights to carry arms and shows that there is no reason to fear the gun. It is all a matter of the individual wearing the gun and his or here right to wear it. It is great to get in a conversation and they see that you are a normal, reasonable, friendly person for whom they have no reason to be afraid of. I joined the open carry movement about two months ago and have had nothing but positive experiences and lots of questions which allowed me to inform people of a right they had no idea they have.

TB
07-23-2008, 12:39 AM
I love #24. Next time they squawk about gun shows, we'll just remind them that if they leave us alone we'll all kill ourselves off.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the only Presidents ever shot at conservative? (keeping in mind that the Democrats of a generation ago were the conservatives)

If that's true, then that suggests the Liberals are only afraid that conservative gun owners would act the way they do, which reveals the character of liberalism even more.

wolfstrike
07-23-2008, 01:12 AM
Truman had an assasination attempt, he was a Democrat.

but he was conservative according to today's standards

bootlen
07-23-2008, 07:24 AM
Yup. And JFK was right of W.