Time to kick Illinois in the butt

[sysint]

OK - Here's the latest. Your stupid I-Pass is illegally charging Wisconsin residents who have an I-Pass for violations that don't exist because of computer programming errors.

You think that the Illinois @)#(*$ would correct the problem, refund and apologize?

Not happening. Illinois has no plans to make good. What a bunch of bastards.

It's time Wisconsin has a border tolls for it's highways. Make it a decreasing radius toll. If you are our cheating nearby neighbor it's $10/axle. The second you raise your toll we increase ours by a factor of 2. However, if you are visiting from North Dakota it's a nickel because you don't frequent Wisconsin.

I'm also advocating a computer glitch on Ill-noise residents who have vacation property in Wisconsin with no plans for correction.

[jmac00]

thats funny :D watch what happen if you over charge a customer and don't make it right :mad:

and I thought NY was bad :confused:

[whec720]

You got the plan, sys!

See how they like being screwed. It is important to be polite to your neighbors, but when your state has a BIG city , like Chicago, I guess they feel the need to "flip the bird" to "outsiders".
No wonder they call them FIBs.:D

[sysint]

thats funny :D watch what happen if you over charge a customer and don't make it right :mad:
and I thought NY was bad :confused: It's incredible. What should happen is Illinois should issue a formal apology and go out of their way to right their mistake. They decided not to respond until everyone started making complaints. I guess I'm tired of getting stuck by Illinois. I thought it was a huge cheap shot that they moved the toll on 94 just north of Great America. WI residents used to get there without paying a toll for the two miles of driving.... those Illinois bastards just couldn't have that I guess. I don't go there but I see alot of hard working families making that place a destination. Another case of Illinois screwing the average Joe from Wisconsin.

Time to get them big.

I've been thinking about a decreasing charge based on distance to cover tolls. WI residents could bypass the tolls as they pay the taxes in WI as their primary residence. Vacation homes would be excluded so the IL jerks still have to pay. Since they are so close and use WI highways extensively they pay more. Somebody visiting from Alaska gets in for a nickel. It's like an impact fee. And I'd be ruthless. If the IL government reacts in any way I'd promptly double the fees. Let's see who wins. Facts are more people want to go north into Wisconsin rather than people wanting to go south into Illinois for recreation. If Illinois goes after trucking I'd give all sorts of business incentives from the airport to the border and hammer anything with an IL license plate really, really hard. Post a few more officers on the highways, etc....

[jmac00]

It's incredible. What should happen is Illinois should issue a formal apology and go out of their way to right their mistake. They decided not to respond until everyone started making complaints. I guess I'm tired of getting stuck by Illinois. I thought it was a huge cheap shot that they moved the toll on 94 just north of Great America. WI residents used to get there without paying a toll for the two miles of driving.... those Illinois bastards just couldn't have that I guess. I don't go there but I see alot of hard working families making that place a destination. Another case of Illinois screwing the average Joe from Wisconsin.

Time to get them big.

I've been thinking about a decreasing charge based on distance to cover tolls. WI residents could bypass the tolls as they pay the taxes in WI as their primary residence. Vacation homes would be excluded so the IL jerks still have to pay. Since they are so close and use WI highways extensively they pay more. Somebody visiting from Alaska gets in for a nickel. It's like an impact fee. And I'd be ruthless. If the IL government reacts in any way I'd promptly double the fees. Let's see who wins. Facts are more people want to go north into Wisconsin rather than people wanting to go south into Illinois for recreation. If Illinois goes after trucking I'd give all sorts of business incentives from the airport to the border and hammer anything with an IL license plate really, really hard. Post a few more officers on the highways, etc....

your never going to make it in Politics :p

[sysint]

That's a compliment.

Actually, that idea would be huge in Wisconsin. All it takes is the same mentality Illinois displays.... that we shouldn't give a $#@) about some other stinking state.

[jmac00]

That's a compliment.

Actually, that idea would be huge in Wisconsin. All it takes is the same mentality Illinois displays.... that we shouldn't give a $#@) about some other stinking state.

ya know, with your crappy attitude people are going to think your from NY :D:D:D

[RoBoTeq]

What an inept system this is. Not only is it wrongly fining Wisconsin drivers due to the Illinois programming error, but the system is a year behind in sending out the fines. This article doesn't mention that Illinois is not going to make good on the disputed fines; http://www.bnd.com/430/v-print/story/374787.html

[RoBoTeq]

Looks like Illinois has realized just what a cash cow Wisconsin drivers are; http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2008/02/04/daily56.html

[sysint]

Illinois is now saying that you can plead your case. People quoted in the papers report about 2 hours, with no guarantees and rather than innocent until proven guilty it's the other way around. You are guilty trying to state your case and maybe they refund.

What a bunch of bastards in Illinois.

[hvac_superman]

That's one state I only go through when I have to.

[whec720]

Illinois is now saying that you can plead your case. People quoted in the papers report about 2 hours, with no guarantees and rather than innocent until proven guilty it's the other way around. You are guilty trying to state your case and maybe they refund.

What a bunch of bastards in Illinois.

Illinois??:confused:

Only two things come out of Illinois.......Obama and bastards!!:eek:

Okay.....make that only one thing...:p


:D

[air311]

I agree ssyint..we should charge those FIBS to come in to Wisconsin. As many of those idiots that come to the Dells every summer we would be rolling in green.

[mrs reb77]

I read both of the articles provided in this thread. My opinion (yes, I have one) is that the original poster is over reacting a bit if this is all the information available. They didn't react right away for a legitimate reason. The articles said nothing about not working out the problems for those that have been incorrectly fined or ticketed. From the 'road rage' article:
About half of the callers who complain have been billed correctly, Wisconsin's Biermeier said. Which I take to mean that they shouldn't have been complaining as there wasn't a mistake. And the other half that complained apparently have a legitimate complaint.
If you don't like a toll road, don't use it. The I-Pass system isn't the only way to pay the toll either--it was set up as a way to make the whole thing easier for the drivers and collection. Don't like it, don't use it.
Many states have toll roads and these transponder systems to collect the tolls. I'm sure all of them have issues/glitches at one time or another.

[acmanko]

Illinois? Wisconsin?heheheheheh who cares?:p

[sysint]

I read both of the articles provided in this thread. My opinion (yes, I have one) is that the original poster is over reacting a bit if this is all the information available. They didn't react right away for a legitimate reason. The articles said nothing about not working out the problems for those that have been incorrectly fined or ticketed. .... Since the articles by Robo are LATE in the game I'm not going to slam you for drinking the Kool Aid.

This started out as WI residents identifying the issue although Illinois KNEW about it in advance. When it went public, you had Mc Ginnis initially stating Illinois had no plans to rectify the problem citing lack of being able to document the errors specifically. It also had the WI DOT more acrimonious about the situation.... then a few days and some obvious discussions between the states and now the talk is smoothing out.

Here's the deal girly.... it is going to cost Illinois MONEY to rectify the situation and they started out by rug sweeping rather than being honest and addressing their problem.

Explain to me how WI can identify that half the complaints are false? It's an Illinois system. WI government has nothing to do with it. That makes that claim KOOL Aid weeks later in this issue. Further, you would have everyone inquiring for potential errors and there still is no explanation on whether this system put in regular tolls because the errors are "corrected" but not explained clearly enough.

After years of dealing with the Illinois way I think it's time for some payback.

[mrs reb77]

So, you really don't want the issue worked out you only want to "get quarter" from Illinois and it's residents. Right?
From the only articles provided, it appears they are trying to rectify the situation. You didn't provide information to dispute that, sorry about reading the actual information provided and making a decision based upon that. I'm sure we should all just listen to your rant on the subject and follow behind you making a huge fuss about how they're doing nothing to fix the issue and they should be made to pay pay pay pay pay for their obviously purposeful mistake towards the residents of Wisconsin.
Kool aid indeed. :rolleyes:

[mrs reb77]

By the by, Missouri shares a very long boundary line with Illinois. I happen to live very near one of the bridges that take us into that state. We really don't seem to have these issues with them that you're encountering.

[sysint]

So, you really don't want the issue worked out you only want to "get quarter" from Illinois and it's residents. Right?
From the only articles provided, it appears they are trying to rectify the situation. ... Only because it went public and got big. Get it yet?

[mrs reb77]

Hmm. Well, since I haven't seen any articles or proof that they did nothing in the beginning (prior to the two articles referenced elsewhere in this thread), no I don't really get it. Do you have anything to reference what they weren't or were doing before it 'got big' or do we just take your word for it?

[sysint]

I'll teach you how to read:

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/292449

"I'm concerned that some people might unwittingly be contributing to the Illinois Tollway when there are other causes equally worthy of their support," he said.

He also pointed out that, for him, calling the 800 number in the letter was the start of a two-hour phone session that was in large part a search for a live person who could help him resolve his problem.

In its June 8 SOS column, the State Journal reported the plight of another man who got one of the violation letters. Todd Johnson also took the time to follow up with the tollway and had the fines erased.

At the time, McGinnis could not provide an explanation for why Johnson got the letter. She said Thursday that she was not aware then of the problem in the tollway's database.......McGinnis did not know how many of the 10,000 violation notices that go out each month were incorrectly sent to Wisconsin drivers. The registration glitch was unique to Wisconsin and started with the new computer system, McGinnis said.

....The problem was corrected earlier this month, she said.

....Officials at the Bureau of Vehicle Services knew something was up when complaint calls went from zero to about 15 a day in the past two months.

She didn't know about the problem earlier this month although later in the article she states the problem was CORRECTED earlier this month. Illinois knew about it and didn't say a word about it until there was an uproar and it went public. So, she lied because she had more than a month and a half of awareness.

EDIT: this information is also in Robo's quote. You can't read. What you do like to attempt to do is follow me around and post contrary. Have it more together next time. It's getting sad. Want to talk about the FLDS some more and the major slap the Texas Supreme Court gave CPS?... yea, I guess you were on the wrong side of that one too. Give it up. WI residents have been getting the screw from IL for some time. So, yes it's time for IL to "pay up sucker".

[mrs reb77]

So, because she didn't know about it it's an automatic that she lied? D'ya think that maybe it was someone else's responsibility area and didn't get 'passed around' in a timely manner?
Thanks but I read fine, I finished high school and everything. I also can count. Earlier this month is before today. A date is not specified. If the lady didn't know about it until earlier this month that can be any day before today. If it was corrected at around the same time, earlier or later, it's still earlier this month.
Find another instance--this don't fly. Doesn't promote your original 'when it got big' premise.

[mrs reb77]

Oh good golly. Well, I guess you were editing while I was posting.
Gee.

Well, you're obviously right, the government of Illinois is out to get you. Better hide.

Maybe you can send me a second grade primer or something and I'll brush up on my reading skills, it's obvious that words mean different things in Wisconsin than they do in Missouri.

[sysint]

It's official. You can't read. She stated she didn't know earlier this month and subsequently stated the problem was fixed earlier this month. What is there to figure out? They knew about the problem, fixed the problem and didn't notify ANYONE about it until it became PUBLIC.

Further, how can the department not know about it earlier in the month yet FIX the problem earlier in the month?

You say you can read, which seems to be true, but your comprehension abilities are in the toilet.

EDIT: When's the term up for the ARP committee? You obviously need a break. How far do you want to go to attempt the last word? Let me know in advance, OK?

[mrs reb77]

Today, by the calendar on my wall, is June 24th. Earlier this month, on June 10th or therebouts, our river forecast crest was 27 feet. Also earlier this month, on June 23 our river crested at 26+ feet. Both dates are earlier this month.
See how that works?

[mrs reb77]

I don't want a last word. I also will not go back editing my previous posts.

I'm sorry you feel so passionately about this subject and feel the government of Illinois is out to get those from Wisconsin. Perhaps a wall or something is in order. We've got a river but, that doesn't always work out so good.

Have a nice rest of your day. We're getting a huge thunderstorm--good stuff for that flooding river.

[sysint]

There is a couple things about Illinois you don't understand:

1. For any business in IL everybody (I mean e v e r y b o d y) has their hand out for a buck. This is especially true in the Chicago area.

2. If IL can do a cover up to prevent sending out money they will do it.

IL played stupid on this until it went public. (see item #2)