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wrench tech
05-22-2008, 12:14 PM
I'm hearing people talk that it is time to quit using heating oil to heat our homes. That oil should only be used for transportation. That we should use electricity or anything other than oil to heat our homes. Anyone think this could happen? I really don't see it happening in my lifetime.

Jack2007
05-22-2008, 12:29 PM
Going to get a price on a COAL heater (coal is plentiful). :D
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jrongo
05-22-2008, 12:53 PM
I'm hearing people talk that it is time to quit using heating oil to heat our homes. That oil should only be used for transportation. That we should use electricity or anything other than oil to heat our homes. Anyone think this could happen? I really don't see it happening in my lifetime.




I guess you were flipping through the channels and passed by CNBC. That issue is all over that channel today…

I do not know if this is the right forum for this post…but heck…

Needless to say, the market will phase out oil to heat the home…. It is unlikely the government will do it.

As oil prices go higher other technologies become move competitive. I live in NY and 20 years ago putting in a heat pump was not on the agenda, now it is slowly becoming common place.

If the government is going to ban heating oil then it will have to interject billions to change out infrastructure. If they leave well enough alone these things will happen on their own.

I hope oil goes even higher. It is the only way the good olde’ US of A will break the chains of the Mid East.

The quicker the price is run up the quicker the market place will make the changes to use less and less.

The odds the government phases out heating oil are slim to none.

wrench tech
05-22-2008, 12:59 PM
I do not know if this is the right forum for this post…but heck…

Do you know of a better place to ask the question?:confused:

gary_g
05-22-2008, 01:01 PM
I hope oil goes even higher. It is the only way the good olde’ US of A will break the chains of the Mid East.

The quicker the price is run up the quicker the market place will make the changes to use less and less.

Agree 100%. Not just the chains of the Mid East, but of Venezuela and our other foreign "friends".

gary_g
05-22-2008, 01:02 PM
Do you know of a better place to ask the question?:confused:

"General Discussion" Forum or "ARP" Forum. ARP = America, Religion, and Politics. Both Forums are on this site.

mberman
05-22-2008, 01:11 PM
Residential oil heat is almost a thing of the past around the Detroit area, their are a few left but mainly natural gas or propane.Matt Berman

jrongo
05-22-2008, 01:12 PM
"General Discussion" Forum or "ARP" Forum. ARP = America, Religion, and Politics. Both Forums are on this site.

Yes, my thoughts as well...

gary_g
05-22-2008, 01:14 PM
Yes, my thoughts as well...

No big deal. The Mods will move it if they feel it is necessary.

Take care.

beenthere
05-22-2008, 02:06 PM
Oi will price its self out of the market as a common heating fuel. The same a coal did in the 60's and early 70's.

Thats not as good as some may thing.
Thats means demand for natural gas will go up. Natural gas is used to generate electricty.
So both natural gas, and electric rates will go up.
Some states don't have enough power generation. This could cause brown outs.

I won't tell you my opinion on it yet.

But, there is already interest in building new nuclear power plants. Who's volunteering their back yard for one.

sneezer
05-22-2008, 02:18 PM
There are plenty of homes in NY that are heated with oil.

Anyone know what the national figure is for % homes heated with fuel oil?

jrongo
05-22-2008, 02:48 PM
There are plenty of homes in NY that are heated with oil.

Anyone know what the national figure is for % homes heated with fuel oil?



Little dated but should give you a good feel:

http://www.census.gov/apsd/cqc/cqc27.pdf

Jack2007
05-22-2008, 03:03 PM
There are plenty of homes in NY that are heated with oil.

Anyone know what the national figure is for % homes heated with fuel oil?

LINK (http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/analysis_publications/heating_brochure/heatbro.htm) Dept. of Energy

Of the 107 million households in the United States, approximately 8.1 million use heating oil as their main heating fuel.

Residential space heating is the primary use for heating oil, making the demand highly seasonal. Most of the heating oil use occurs during October through March. The area of the country most reliant on heating oil is the Northeast.

So, 8.1 / 107 = 7.57%

78% of the homes are in the Northeast.

Spot Heating Oil Prices LINK (http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/twip_distillate.html)
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t527ed
05-22-2008, 03:31 PM
But, there is already interest in building new nuclear power plants. Who's volunteering their back yard for one.


will i get free electricity and be able to use the steam to heat my pool ??:D

beenthere
05-22-2008, 03:37 PM
will i get free electricity and be able to use the steam to heat my pool ??:D
By the glow of the radioactive tower. :)

jrongo
05-22-2008, 03:41 PM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90714692

Story about reusing waste heat...

Idea will be used in the home over time...

t527ed
05-22-2008, 06:55 PM
By the glow of the radioactive tower. :)


cool....... free outdoor lighting to..........:D

optomos
05-22-2008, 07:47 PM
But, there is already interest in building new nuclear power plants.


Yes! U.S. signed an agreement with Russia that if they give us Nuclear Power Plant technology that we will pay a premium for them to store our nuclear waste; probably in Siberia. Don't know if it will pass the Senate though.

beenthere
05-22-2008, 09:14 PM
Thats why they need to perfect the sodium reactors. They only get fueled once.

Too bad the last time they were testing one, they almost couldn't shut it down when it stated to over heat and melt the rods..

johnsp
05-23-2008, 11:09 PM
from NORA about 70% of heating comes from domestic sources. @$4/gal, why isn't someone making BIO fuel?

optomos
05-24-2008, 09:25 AM
They have been making biofuel, with corn. The drawback has been that not only have fuel costs gone up for farmers, but so have feed costs because of the shift of corn use from feed to fuel, so the everyday joe is being hammered from both sides now, fuel and food costs.

The U.S. does not have enough land to produce the amount of biofuel required so we would end up going to other contries like Brazil for biofuel made out of sugar cane or EU for more corn. We need a blend of alternative fuel + fuel efficiency to get out of this mess.