a society of blame

[air2spare]

Although I feel for this kid I just can't make myself understand how the bat is to blame...shouldn't parents be responsible for what they let their kids play with?

geez

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080517/ap_on_re_us/bby_boy_s_baseball_injury

[The Doctor]

Did the parents name themselves in the lawsuits as defendants, for allowing their own son to play with such dangerous elements? :rolleyes:

[sysint]

I'd like to start suing these parents for pushing the sports so heavy they decide to use metal bats. They are also destroying the environment by carting their kids everywhere so I want to sue them for that also.

Parents should realize that their kids need to be at home where they are safe. I think a parent should be with them when they are at home too.

[Slatts]

I'd like to start suing these parents for pushing the sports so heavy they decide to use metal bats. They are also destroying the environment by carting their kids everywhere so I want to sue them for that also.

Parents should realize that their kids need to be at home where they are safe. I think a parent should be with them when they are at home too.

73.26% of accidents involving children happen in the home.
86.31% of all quoted statistics are made up on the spot.
there fore it's statistically probable that I just made that up.
See? Statistics don't lie!:D

Get rid of the lawyers and make the parents responsible for their children.

[sysint]

I think it's time to call CPS to take this child from their parents for allowing the kid to play baseball. I think CPS should take all the children that have parents who let them play with that hard baseball and metal bat.

[air2spare]

I feel better now, was hoping I wasn't the only one with this view but it amazes me how people behave....we are truly a nation in trouble folks!

[air311]

So, were the bats safe until their kid got hit with the ball? If they were inherently unsafe, then why was he playing in a game that used them in the first place. The scary part is, they'll win this lawsuit. Say bye bye to metal bats.

[air311]

73.26% of accidents involving children happen in the home.
86.31% of all quoted statistics are made up on the spot.
there fore it's statistically probable that I just made that up.
See? Statistics don't lie!:D

Get rid of the lawyers and make the parents responsible for their children.

So, that would mean there's a 65.25% chance you made that up, but only a 26.5% chance of that? And there's a 99.9% chance that my numbers are wrong, but only a 14.%2 chance they're right. The only thing that's 100% certain, is the parents of this kid are 110% nuts, which isn't statistically possible.

[royc]

As far as I'm concerned all sports should be taken out of the school system, including college.

Let those who make a living hiring prospects for professional sports, and make them pay for the training off school. Schools are there to teach basic and higher learning to pupils, and sports as nothing to do with any of it. I have a hard time with schools spending money on sports programs, and on youngsters who cant read, write, or do some basic adding up figures, or cant even speak the language properly.

I know I'm probably in the minority on this, but I think those who end up with talented players for their million dollar enterprises, should be paying to develop such talent, instead of the school system.

Roy

[coordinatesales]

We had a situation very similar to that story here. A kid got hit in the chest with the ball and is doing fine now due to immediate help. (off duty paramedic and doctor were at the game). The parents and kid are raising money for defibrillator's at the ballparks. THAT is a positive response instead of looking for somebody to sue.
http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=125800

I have coached softball for years and have 3 girls of my own that play. 2 of them are pitchers and I have seen them hit on more than one occasion. As kids get older or in competitive vs rec leagues, the pitcher is moved farther away from the plate to give them more reaction time. We also coach them to complete the pitch bringing up their glove to be ready for the line drive. Sports have inherent dangers. As a parent you accept responsibility for that when you sign up the kids to play. Parents have options of buying safety equipment INCLUDING chest protectors for pitchers. We are considering these for our girls.
http://www.athleticarmour.com/Categories/ChestRibProtectors/2113.aspx?Sport=Softball

Here are the baseball models:

http://www.athleticarmour.com/Categories/ChestRibProtectors/2113.aspx?Sport=Baseball

Perhaps the bat manufacturer should sue the parents for not providing ALL of the possible safety equipment.

This country has been going sue happy for years. 20 years ago I worked for a major theme park. A child bought a wooden toy gun that looked like an old flintlock rifle. The child swung it by the barrel against a tree until the stock broke. He then injured a friend in the eye with the broken stock. The parents won a lawsuit against the theme park for selling such a dangerous toy.

[air311]

We had a situation very similar to that story here. A kid got hit in the chest with the ball and is doing fine now due to immediate help. (off duty paramedic and doctor were at the game). The parents and kid are raising money for defibrillator's at the ballparks. THAT is a positive response instead of looking for somebody to sue.
http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=125800

I have coached softball for years and have 3 girls of my own that play. 2 of them are pitchers and I have seen them hit on more than one occasion. As kids get older or in competitive vs rec leagues, the pitcher is moved farther away from the plate to give them more reaction time. We also coach them to complete the pitch bringing up their glove to be ready for the line drive. Sports have inherent dangers. As a parent you accept responsibility for that when you sign up the kids to play. Parents have options of buying safety equipment INCLUDING chest protectors for pitchers. We are considering these for our girls.
http://www.athleticarmour.com/Categories/ChestRibProtectors/2113.aspx?Sport=Softball

Here are the baseball models:

http://www.athleticarmour.com/Categories/ChestRibProtectors/2113.aspx?Sport=Baseball

Perhaps the bat manufacturer should sue the parents for not providing ALL of the possible safety equipment.

This country has been going sue happy for years. 20 years ago I worked for a major theme park. A child bought a wooden toy gun that looked like an old flintlock rifle. The child swung it by the barrel against a tree until the stock broke. He then injured a friend in the eye with the broken stock. The parents won a lawsuit against the theme park for selling such a dangerous toy.
The parents probably need a new car and the house probably needs a new roof, so why not sue to get the money.

[sysint]

Many of these kids get hauled around by their parents for special sports instructors and playing leagues outside of the school system. The emphasis on sports is absolutely ridiculous.

All these nut job parents think their kid is the next Tiger.

Meanwhile, China is putting emphasis on instruction for graduating engineers. It's not only China. The rest of the world isn't this stupid over-emphasizing sports.

[coolwhip]

Roy, I see your point, but sports can be a good thing in school. Kids involved in sports have to maintain at least a 2.5 GPA or they cannot participate in the the sport. This is how it was when I played baseball.
It keeps them out of trouble and also focused on their grades for fear of being ridiculed by their teammates.

[fixacr]

This sounds like the same mentality that was on display here in Virginia recently. A local restaurant was forced to remove the candles from its' tables after some whiner set her hair on fire when reaching across the table. After not being satisfied with an apology from the manager (that's right- THEY apologized for to her!!!) she called the fire department to complain.

Liberalism rule #2- The only person on earth not responsible for you is you.

[sysint]

Roy, I see your point, but sports can be a good thing in school....It keeps them out of trouble and also focused on their grades for fear of being ridiculed by their teammates.Discipline keeps people out of trouble too. I just hate the sports keeps kids out of trouble line... that's way down the list for me. FEAR is higher up than that. Fear of authority, fear of parents, fear of failure, etc....

[Mikeylikesit]

Did the parents name themselves in the lawsuits as defendants, for allowing their own son to play with such dangerous elements? :rolleyes:

somehow, me thinks the Insurance companies will do that for him.


This is what happens when liberals have kids.

[air311]

somehow, me thinks the Insurance companies will do that for him.


This is what happens when liberals have kids.

It's only liberals that are lawsuit happy huh?

[the dangling wrangler]

I'm gonna sue someone. I got a refrigerant burn a few years ago. Who should I go after ? It was the homeowners unit . The manufacturer, since they made the unit, or the refrigerant maker ? It couldn't have been my fault, because , well , just because.

[Mikeylikesit]

It's only liberals that are lawsuit happy huh?

well, no......but you wanna guess at the ratio?

[coordinatesales]

I agree that some parents are going overboard on the sports thing. I've certainly seen it as a coach. I do feel that is the exception though and not the rule. My own kids play for the following reasons:


1. 16 yrs old: She enjoys the game. Doesn't take any private lessons, plays in a rec league. This is her 10th year and with her working a job now, it will be her last since she doesn't really have time anymore. Her goal was to attain her 10 year jacket which the league provides to recognize those players who achieve that goal. She will get it after this season.

2. 12 yrs old: She enjoys the game and playing with her friends and twin sister. She is athletic and competitive. She plans to play in high school and possibly college. She takes batting and pitching lessons* and plays in a competitive league.

3. 12 yrs old: She enjoys the game. She enjoys the time spent with her friends and her twin sister. She also takes batting and pitching lessons*.

*Pitching lessons are required to pitch on her team. We don't have time during team practice to teach a very specialized skill such as pitching.

*Batting lessons are required for playing on her competitive team. This team just stepped up from rec to competitive and is focusing on teaching various defensive skills and both defensive and offensive plays with limited time working on individual batting skills.


Why I support my kids playing:

1. It is good exercise and kids need to stay more active than just an optional PE class during school.

2. The kids are learning good sportsmanship. My kids know how to be a gracious winner and a good loser.

3. They are learning to work with other people to achieve goals. This is something most businesses require from their employees yet schools don't really teach. A good life skill to have.

4. This is an activity and the whole family participates in and I know this idea shocks some people but Mom and Dad(me) are spending time with our kids.:eek:

Only 1 of my kids has any intention of continuing a softball career into college. I will do whatever I can to help her succeed but it is and will always be HER choice.

Most of the parents I have met have similar reasons for their kids playing. I had one parent that really seemed to be trying to live vicariously through their kid's career. We encouraged him to find another team as has every other coach his girl has played for.

[sysint]

3. They are learning to work with other people to achieve goals. This is something most businesses require from their employees yet schools don't really teach. A good life skill to have.

4. This is an activity and the whole family participates in and I know this idea shocks some people but Mom and Dad(me) are spending time with our kids.

3. They can do that at home and at school. Maybe they don't so much at school nowadays because all kids do is sports because many parents lost touch with reality.

4. Sorry, but most parents are warming a bench spending alot of time screaming at coaches and referees living the dream through their kids who get "parent-pressure". Taking a hike or biking WITH your kids is spending time with them. Working in the yard is spending time with them. Cheering them on at a game isn't really spending time with them.

[coordinatesales]

4. Sorry, but most parents are warming a bench spending alot of time screaming at coaches and referees living the dream through their kids who get "parent-pressure". Taking a hike or biking WITH your kids is spending time with them. Working in the yard is spending time with them. Cheering them on at a game isn't really spending time with them.

I agree to some extent. That's why I coach my twin daughter's team and am an active parent on my oldest daughter's team. By active, I mean I help out in practices and could fill in as a base coach if needed. I'm fortunate enough to know how to learn the skills I needed to be an effective coach. Some parents don't know the game and don't know how to learn it. Coaching is not an option for them. I see the difference in attitude though when a parent is there vs when they are not. Some kids are a bit lackluster but when Dad shows up unexpectedly at the game, they are suddenly all smiles. Even though Dad is just cheering them on, I dare say the kid is getting something positive from it as well. I imagine if asked, the kid would say it IS spending time together.