View Full Version : Will you still be voting Republican?
wolfstrike
05-18-2008, 01:15 AM
so it turns out the looneyest group of fruitcake judges in the land , ...AKA the California Supreme Court, is made up of 7 justices, 6 of them identify themselves as "Republicans".
4 of them were appointed by "Republicans"
this is the same group of people who feel they have the authority to over rule the Governor and the will of the public, by creating Gay Marriage Enforcement.
if this doesn't turn your conservative stomach once and for all of voting Republican, NOTHING WILL.
PS , don't forget to vote for that other fake a$$ McCain so he can finally live out his dream and obtain a higher rank than Admiral Daddy.
chaard
05-18-2008, 03:12 AM
Fake? I'd like to see you survive the crap he's been through.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tzgV5QM5fi8&feature=related
McCain requested a combat assignment,[24] and in December 1966 was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal flying A-4 Skyhawks.[25][26] McCain's combat duty began when he was 30 years old. In summer 1967, Forrestal was assigned to a bombing campaign during the Vietnam War.[12][27] McCain and his fellow pilots were frustrated by micromanagement from Washington,[28] and he would later write that "In all candor, we thought our civilian commanders were complete idiots who didn’t have the least notion of what it took to win the war."[27]
By then a lieutenant commander, McCain was almost killed on July 29, 1967 when he was at the epicenter of the Forrestal fire. McCain escaped from his burning jet and was trying to help another pilot escape when a bomb exploded;[29] McCain was struck in the legs and chest by fragments.[30] The ensuing fire killed 134 sailors and took 24 hours to control.[31][32] As Forrestal headed for repairs, McCain volunteered for the USS Oriskany.[33]
John McCain's capture and imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his twenty-third bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[34][35] McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned when he parachuted into Trúc Bạch Lake in Hanoi.[34] After he regained consciousness, a mob attacked him, crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him;[34] he was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[35]
McCain (right) with his squadron and T-2 Buckeye trainer in 1965.
McCain being pulled from Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi and becoming a POW[36] on October 26, 1967.
Interview with McCain on April 24, 1973, after his return home.Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, instead beating and interrogating him to get information.[37] Only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral did they give him medical care[37] and announce his capture. His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of The New York Times[38] and The Washington Post.[39]
McCain spent six weeks in the Hoa Loa hospital, receiving marginal care.[34] Now having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white,[34] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[40] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[41] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[42]
In mid-1968, McCain's father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and McCain was offered early release.[43] The North Vietnamese wanted a worldwide propaganda coup by appearing merciful,[44] and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially.[43] McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.[34]
In August of 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain.[45] McCain was subjected to repeated beatings and rope bindings, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[45] After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[34] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable,[46] but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[47] His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[48] He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[49] Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements, with many enduring even worse treatment than McCain.[50]
McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, not wanting to give either them or the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[51] From late 1969 on, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[52] while McCain continued to be an active resister against the camp authorities.[53] McCain and other prisoners cheered the B-52-led U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972 as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[47][54]
Altogether, McCain was held as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. He was finally released from captivity on March 14, 1973.[55] McCain's return to the United States reunited him with his wife and family. His wife Carol had suffered her own crippling ordeal during his captivity, due to an automobile accident in December 1969.[56] As a returned POW, McCain became a celebrity of sorts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
bootlen
05-18-2008, 06:35 AM
While I disagree with a lot of McCain's politics, he is far and away better than the other 2 options.
And about those judges...they are in CA. You know...the land of fruit loops. You are not likely to find more than a dozen true conservatives in the state.
wallynut
05-18-2008, 06:54 AM
Ah California, Land of Hollywood and make believe.
I for one will vote for McCain. I am registered independent
and go with the most conservative.
Dont care for white flag wavers.
whec720
05-18-2008, 08:34 AM
Here in NY, I'm registered as "no party", which means I am neither Democrat or Republican. It also voids me from voting in any state primaries. So does that make me "Independent"?:rolleyes:
glennac
05-18-2008, 08:39 AM
Hell where else are you going to go? Can't craw down into the sewer and vote for a Democrat.
whec720
05-18-2008, 08:43 AM
Hell where else are you going to go? Can't craw down into the sewer and vote for a Democrat.
LMAO....That's good. Folks....we have another bumper sticker!:D
jmac00
05-18-2008, 09:07 AM
PS , don't forget to vote for that other fake a$$ McCain so he can finally live out his dream and obtain a higher rank than Admiral Daddy.
FAKE???? He's no more fake than you.
And he is a hell-of-alot-more man than you, you don't deserve to carry hid luggage:mad:
ooh ya, your the goof living in the land of the delusional, so stop complaining about your state supreme court, remember
WARNING
Everything on the planet is
known to the State of California to cause cancer,
birth defects or other reproductive harm.
which come to think of it, would explain your attitude:eek:
coolwhip
05-18-2008, 09:51 AM
This nation will become the pinacle of homo marriages, bastard children, illegal immigrants, and welfare....its what the democrats want.
We'll be a proud nation then..wont we.:rolleyes::mad:
whec720
05-18-2008, 09:59 AM
This nation will become the pinacle of homo marriages, bastard children, illegal immigrants, and welfare....its what the democrats want.
We'll be a proud nation then..wont we.:rolleyes::mad:
I know one person that will be......Michele Obama!:D
jmac00
05-18-2008, 10:01 AM
This nation will become the pinacle of homo marriages, bastard children, illegal immigrants, and welfare....its what the democrats want.
We'll be a proud nation then..wont we.:rolleyes::mad:
I think you should look around, I think we're there all ready:(
lolson
05-18-2008, 10:02 AM
had enough of the clinton administration giving china guidance systems technology and i dont wont to see another get in and give more technology to a possible enemy so that they can destroy us with our own systems
now for the other one
turns his back on the american flag :rolleyes: thats a slap in the face for all american and our vets that has fought for this country. who or what is he really devoted to?
i would vote for a democratic farm animal before i will vote democrat this election
smokin68
05-18-2008, 10:21 AM
Tough stance by you anti-Dems.
I'll vote Obama due to:
1) I'll NEVER vote for Hillary.
2) McCain flip-flops his votes/policies worse than John Kerry EVER did, and we all know how he was thrown under the bus for that. I respect McCain as a war veteran and an American, but I can't vote for a flip-flopper who's stance mimmicks Bush, the worst president of all time outside of Carter.
I wish the Dems had better options but they don't. I'd vote Republican if it was Romney.
behappy
05-18-2008, 10:34 AM
I'd vote Republican if it was Romney.
I'll never vote for B.O.
Politicians always lie for the polls. His orginal stance(s) are his thinking, not what he is NOW told to say.
What if Romney is the V.P.???????
glennac
05-18-2008, 10:49 AM
I'll never vote for B.O.
Politicians always lie for the polls. His orginal stance(s) are his thinking, not what he is NOW told to say.
What if Romney is the V.P.???????
You got that right. Obama is a hell a lot better at lying than Hillary. He will say whatever it takes to get elected and if what he is saying is opposite from what he actually believes or has done in the past who will call him out on it. Certainly not or commie press. They are doing a good job of running cover for him. McCain sure won't, he is to busy playing Mr. nice guy and being PC.
lolson
05-18-2008, 10:55 AM
B.O.
somthing stinks about this guy
if i was a hard core dem. i would not bring myself to vote for him, i dont see him doing america any favors
whec720
05-18-2008, 11:07 AM
B.O.
somthing stinks about this guy
if i was a hard core dem. i would not bring myself to vote for him, i dont see him doing america any favors
That is because the Democratic Party has no true leaders. They are cowards who hide behind the robes of federal judges.
smokin68
05-18-2008, 11:42 AM
I'll never vote for B.O.
Politicians always lie for the polls. His orginal stance(s) are his thinking, not what he is NOW told to say.
What if Romney is the V.P.???????
VP does me no good.....it's the most worthless position unless something happens to the prez. Same reason I don't want a Obama-Hillary ticket...if Obama was elected something would happen and Hillary would be prez.
whec720
05-18-2008, 12:27 PM
VP does me no good.....it's the most worthless position unless something happens to the prez. Same reason I don't want a Obama-Hillary ticket...if Obama was elected something would happen and Hillary would be prez.
On that one, we agree. Bad things seem to happen to those who get in the Clinton's way. Obama would be wise to keep his distance and I think he will. He is a Marxist but is no dummy.
2cool4us
05-18-2008, 05:52 PM
On that one, we agree. Bad things seem to happen to those who get in the Clinton's way. Obama would be wise to keep his distance and I think he will. He is a Marxist but is no dummy.
He is a DUMMY!!:D:eek::D
fv_tom
05-18-2008, 06:13 PM
had enough of the clinton administration giving china guidance systems technology and i dont wont to see another get in and give more technology to a possible enemy so that they can destroy us with our own systems
Like when Reagan and Bush Sr. supported Al-Qaeda?
glennac
05-18-2008, 06:28 PM
Like when Reagan and Bush Sr. supported Al-Qaeda?
That is a bald faced falsehood. They aided the Afghan resistance fighters. Al-Qaeda came along after the war ended with Russia. Even the Taliban came into being during the fighting after the war was over.
voodoo
05-18-2008, 06:42 PM
I dont like any of 'em.....
The Doctor
05-18-2008, 09:17 PM
I'm voting Republican. I'll be writing in my choice, because it sure isn't McCain. If he's a conservative, then I'm not one! I'll be voting for Ron Paul.
Other than fulfilling a commitment he made to the U.S. armed forces, McCain has done nothing of substance for civil liberties. I suppose you McCain lovers think he's better than Ron Paul. Well, Ron Paul also fulfilled his commitment to the U.S. armed force during the Vietnam war, and is not selling out our first amendment rights (McCain-Feingold), is not going for amnesty at all (McCain-Kennedy), does not think that the government has to save us from "global warming" like McCain does. Ron Paul was not in a "gang of 14" to PREVENT Bush from appointing strict constructionist justices, like McCain was.
I'd rather blame the Democrats in four years for the clusterfoxtrot which is America, if there's anything left.
whec720
05-18-2008, 09:20 PM
He is a DUMMY!!:D:eek::D
I think those were Vince Foster's last words.:D
The Doctor
05-18-2008, 09:31 PM
I think those were Vince Foster's last words.:D
And then he committed suicide, and then rolled himself up in a carpet and headed out to Fort Marcy Park. :eek:
air311
05-19-2008, 09:50 AM
That is because the Democratic Party has no true leaders. They are cowards who hide behind the robes of federal judges.
You people are hilarious. Democrats hide behind federal judges? Don't republicans try to appoint judges that wsill do what they want when they're in power? And what leaders does the republican party have? You're all so automatically full of hate for anyone who isn't far far far right that it's scary.
coordinatesales
05-19-2008, 11:21 AM
I haven't decided who to vote for this November. Probably a third party. I've been saying for years that I wanted a viable third party in this country. Our current 2 major parties have betrayed us.
air311
05-19-2008, 11:25 AM
I haven't decided who to vote for this November. Probably a third party. I've been saying for years that I wanted a viable third party in this country. Our current 2 major parties have betrayed us.
That we agree on.
wallynut
05-19-2008, 01:11 PM
You people are hilarious. Democrats hide behind federal judges? Don't republicans try to appoint judges that wsill do what they want when they're in power? .
YES, and what we want is our constitution to be followed.
air311
05-19-2008, 01:27 PM
YES, and what we want is our constitution to be followed.
LOL, now that's laughable. Republicans don't care about the constitution anymore than Democrats do. For both sides, it's all about getting YOUR beliefs made into law. Constitution be damned.
Mikeylikesit
05-19-2008, 02:32 PM
And about those judges...they are in CA. You know...the land of fruit loops. You are not likely to find more than a dozen true conservatives in the state.
Yep.
murphyHVAC
05-19-2008, 04:05 PM
Although I participated in "Operation Chaos" my gut tells me to vote for a Thompson/Romney ticket.
chaard
05-19-2008, 11:12 PM
And about those judges...they are in CA. You know...the land of fruit loops. You are not likely to find more than a dozen true conservatives in the state.
Yep.
Then how come it was the majority of the people that were against same sex marriage. In Ca. of all places. The courts over ruled the people. Now the people get to vote in Nov., if they get enough signatures, to ban same sex marriage.
razorback
05-20-2008, 10:35 AM
I've always considered myself a republican, but with the way the party has gone the last few years I can't tell the difference between them and the democrats.
I will vote for McCain simply based on the lesser of two evils philosphy. I think a large portion of the population feels the same way.:(
air311
05-20-2008, 10:44 AM
I've always considered myself a republican, but with the way the party has gone the last few years I can't tell the difference between them and the democrats.
I will vote for McCain simply based on the lesser of two evils philosphy. I think a large portion of the population feels the same way.:(
But an even larger portion may well see Obama as the lesser of two evils.
glennac
05-20-2008, 11:13 AM
But an even larger portion may well see Obama as the lesser of two evils.
Only if you are red.:)
air311
05-20-2008, 11:34 AM
Only if you are red.:)
Or not completely paranoid.
k-fridge
05-20-2008, 12:37 PM
I've always considered myself a republican, but with the way the party has gone the last few years I can't tell the difference between them and the democrats.
I will vote for McCain simply based on the lesser of two evils philosphy. I think a large portion of the population feels the same way.:(
Yep, same here.
coolwhip
05-20-2008, 02:41 PM
Obama, I think we should place valcro on his head and stick him to the ceiling.:D
glennac
05-20-2008, 03:06 PM
Obama, I think we should place valcro on his head and stick him to the ceiling.:D
I believe that you got it wrong cooship. Put valcro on the ceiling. O well I didn't say that. Bad joike.:)
mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 03:33 PM
But an even larger portion may well see Obama as the lesser of two evils.
Now, that right there is funny I don't care who you are.
I think I'd rather be paranoid than delusional.
air311
05-20-2008, 03:38 PM
Now, that right there is funny I don't care who you are.
I think I'd rather be paranoid than delusional.
You're saying Mccain has it locked up and i'm delusional to think that more people might think Obama is the lesser of two evils? Strange, he's had the last 2 months to campaign while Obama and Hillary have been running against each other, and he STILL can't muster up any kind of real momentum.
mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 03:41 PM
Why in the world should he start campaigning BEFORE there is someone to campaign against? Last time I checked, the Convention isn't until September for the Republicans and August for the Democrats. I'm WAY okay with McCain not campaigning until he's the confirmed nominee and there is a confirmed Democratic candidate. This campaigning started way to early anyway. Let the Democrats tear each other up, Republicans don't need to be involved.
mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 03:43 PM
And, rereading my post, I did not say anyone had anything 'locked up'. I just think anyone that thinks more voters will select Obama as the lesser of two evils is sniffing funny gas...
air311
05-20-2008, 03:44 PM
And, rereading my post, I did not say anyone had anything 'locked up'. I just think anyone that thinks more voters will select Obama as the lesser of two evils is sniffing funny gas...
Like I said, you're saying Mccain has it locked up then if you tihnk more people will find him the lesser of two evils.
air311
05-20-2008, 03:47 PM
Why in the world should he start campaigning BEFORE there is someone to campaign against? Last time I checked, the Convention isn't until September for the Republicans and August for the Democrats. I'm WAY okay with McCain not campaigning until he's the confirmed nominee and there is a confirmed Democratic candidate. This campaigning started way to early anyway. Let the Democrats tear each other up, Republicans don't need to be involved.
He's BEEN campaigning for 8 years! His entire campaign will be him trying to paint Obama as a terrorist sympathizer. I really don't see him coming up with anything new between now and November.
mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 03:55 PM
Like I said, you're saying Mccain has it locked up then if you tihnk more people will find him the lesser of two evils.
Are you hard of hearing too? :rolleyes:
air311
05-20-2008, 04:07 PM
Are you hard of hearing too? :rolleyes:
Nope. If you're referring to my comment about Mccain..what has he been blabbing for the last few weeks? It's going to be the same till November. none of the candidates seem to have any kind of solid platform.
mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 05:19 PM
Like I said, you're saying Mccain has it locked up then if you tihnk more people will find him the lesser of two evils.
I was referring to your post where you yet again misquoted what I posted. Obviously you are hard of reading so perhaps hard of hearing as well?
I did not state anywhere that McCain has it locked up, I reiterated that to you and yet you say again that I've said it.
There will be people voting their actual support on both sides of the aisle. Then there will be people voting only against the other candidate and then others still that are voting for the lesser of the two evils. I don't seriously think that the portion of people voting for a lesser of two evils would consider Obama to be such. That leaves the other two groups to decide the remainder of the election.
And Obama will still not come out on top, but I don't see anything as "locked up". At least not until about November 5th 2008.
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