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jmac00
05-17-2008, 03:15 PM
Had a stroke or multiple siezures today/this morning. "the clan" has been called to Boston.

He is resting comfortably at Boston General..........

I got no sympathy for him. To bad Mary Jo didn't get a chance to "rest comfortably" in the hospital.

If he dies and he makes it to the Pearly Gates, I hope Mary Jo meets him at the door. that should be an interesting meeting. :mad::(

classical
05-17-2008, 03:24 PM
There are not many people in this world that I would feel not pity for but Teddy is one of them. There is no more worthless piece of S*** on the face of the earth. He will not be missed!!!!

jpb2
05-17-2008, 03:25 PM
Did he drop at swimming lessons or a course on the Federalist papers ? He's a dirt bag ,society will be better off without the bastard

crackertech
05-17-2008, 03:25 PM
He's a first class ahole.

countryhick
05-17-2008, 05:16 PM
I heard it on the news this morning but they did not know at that time the reason. I figured it was either alcohol poisoning or an erection lasting longer than four hours....

k-fridge
05-17-2008, 05:19 PM
I heard it on the news this morning but they did not know at that time the reason. I figured it was either alcohol poisoning or an erection lasting longer than four hours....
LOL

classical
05-17-2008, 06:18 PM
I am almost ashamed to say it but this statement by harry reid is one of the most disappointing I have ever read.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, speaking at the Nevada Democratic Convention in Reno, said he spoke to Kennedy's wife Saturday afternoon and was told "his condition is not life-threatening, but serious."

This on the other hand at least the first part just makes me ill, I am an AMERICAN and teddy boy stands for nothing I believe in just what I despise.

"But the one thing I can say, if there ever was a fighter, anyone who stood for what we as Americans, we as Democrats, stand for, it's Ted Kennedy," Reid said.

wallynut
05-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Both Communist


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RoBoTeq
05-17-2008, 09:33 PM
I wish no ill will on anyone, but it would be nice to not have to put up with Ted Kennedy as a political leader.

bootlen
05-17-2008, 10:42 PM
Ditto to all the above. He's a worthless hypocrite.

chaard
05-18-2008, 03:25 AM
Who here cares that he's sick? Story is back page news.

whec720
05-18-2008, 08:41 AM
Dying in a hospital bed sure beats the the alternative, a river bed. This guy has no clue to as the hurt and pain he has inflicted on others, nor does he seem to care.

jmac00
05-18-2008, 08:42 AM
I'd bet the farm, even though he's very sick, he still DOES NOT RETIRE..........

whec720
05-18-2008, 08:55 AM
I'd bet the farm, even though he's very sick, he still DOES NOT RETIRE..........

Especially if they have an open bar at the Senate.:p:D

coolperfect
05-18-2008, 09:25 AM
His relative,I forgot his name who killed that girl when he was young and got convicted later is a pos too

classical
05-18-2008, 10:36 AM
His relative,I forgot his name who killed that girl when he was young and got convicted later is a pos too


Don't forget the young cousin that raped that girl down in Florida and John John that killed himself his wife and another girl when he took off in a small plane when he should not. Remember how many hundreds of millions of dollars we/government expended looking for them in the Atlantic.

The Kennedy clan and its many offshoots are just an ill we must unfortunately endure in this country. To think it all started with one rum runner criminal that they didn't catch were was Elliot Ness when you needed him.

Texas-Tech
05-18-2008, 11:06 AM
Any one know what room he is in, maybe we can pull his plug, no one with any sense would miss his sorry a$$ anyway:cool:

pabull
05-20-2008, 03:13 PM
News says Ted has a malignant brain tumor.
I guess all those years of pickling his brain didn't help.

Sorry....but he wont be missed.

air311
05-20-2008, 03:19 PM
You right wing nuts may not care for the guy, hell, I ain't to fond of him, but damn, this is sad. I know conservatives are for the most part compassionless people, but you're all acting like he deserves to have brain cancer. I can only imagine what you all would have said if this was your precious ol Ronnie Reagan laying on his death bed with alzheimers, and there were people saying the same things about him that you are saying about Kennedy.

mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 03:28 PM
Speak for yourself mini-libbie. Conservatives, for the most part, do have compassion. They just aren't bleeding heart types that worry about squishing snails and killing mice.
His illness, while unfortunate for himself and his loved ones, won't garner much pity from anyone with half of a memory. You reap what you sow.

glennac
05-20-2008, 03:31 PM
You right wing nuts may not care for the guy, hell, I ain't to fond of him, but damn, this is sad. I know conservatives are for the most part compassionless people, but you're all acting like he deserves to have brain cancer. I can only imagine what you all would have said if this was your precious ol Ronnie Reagan laying on his death bed with alzheimers, and there were people saying the same things about him that you are saying about Kennedy.

Hear what you are saying but a lot of us feel he should be in a prison hospital with a life sentence for murdering Mary Jo Kopechne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne). It is hard to feel sorry for him. Maybe Hubert Humphrey when he had cancer, we all felt compasion for.

kruzer2001
05-20-2008, 03:32 PM
Divine Retribution! I'm sure mary jo's family think the same thing

air311
05-20-2008, 03:43 PM
Speak for yourself mini-libbie. Conservatives, for the most part, do have compassion. They just aren't bleeding heart types that worry about squishing snails and killing mice.
His illness, while unfortunate for himself and his loved ones, won't garner much pity from anyone with half of a memory. You reap what you sow.

You have no clue what constitutes someone being a liberal do you? And most far right conservatives DON'T have compassion. I know plenty that wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone unless they would somehow benefit from it later on.

glennac
05-20-2008, 03:50 PM
You have no clue what constitutes someone being a liberal do you? And most far right conservatives DON'T have compassion. I know plenty that wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone unless they would somehow benefit from it later on.

I beg your pardon air. Conservatives give far more to charity than liberals. It is a documented fact. Check this out. Perhaps you would like to give a retraction to your statement. That was your prejudiced opinion based on your biased beliefs and not on fact to the contary.

http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v19/i04/04001101.htm

mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 03:51 PM
You are painting everyone that doesn't think like you with the same brush. You have continually called all of us on this site "right wing nuts" and post that we aren't compassionate etc. I take exception to that as do many others here. If that wasn't what you meant perhaps you should explain yourself a little better or stop with the wing nut comments.


You have no clue what constitutes someone being a liberal do you?

I know I AIN'T one. I know that you tend to call everyone that doesn't agree with you a 'right wing nut'. I do have a few clues what constitutes someone being a liberal...I also know a few liberals that will take this information regarding Ted Kennedy as the majority of the posters on this thread. Unfortunate for him but, don't have much sympathy or pity.

air311
05-20-2008, 03:56 PM
You are painting everyone that doesn't think like you with the same brush. You have continually called all of us on this site "right wing nuts" and post that we aren't compassionate etc. I take exception to that as do many others here. If that wasn't what you meant perhaps you should explain yourself a little better or stop with the wing nut comments.


You have no clue what constitutes someone being a liberal do you?

I know I AIN'T one. I know that you tend to call everyone that doesn't agree with you a 'right wing nut'. I do have a few clues what constitutes someone being a liberal...I also know a few liberals that will take this information regarding Ted Kennedy as the majority of the posters on this thread. Unfortunate for him but, don't have much sympathy or pity.
I call anybody who is far right, or far left, a nut. It's hard to argue that some on here don't fit that description. You all have the same attitude, and label anyone that disagrees with you, or maybe leans left on even one issue, an evil, bleeding heart liberal. I don't wish ANYONE a death like the one Kennedy may well end up having. I think the guys bonkers as much as you do, but cheering when someone has cancer is just wrong, no matter what you think of him.

air311
05-20-2008, 04:03 PM
I beg your pardon air. Conservatives give far more to charity than liberals. It is a documented fact. Check this out. Perhaps you would like to give a retraction to your statement. That was your prejudiced opinion based on your biased beliefs and not on fact to the contary.

http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v19/i04/04001101.htm

I know plenty of conservative/republicans that won't give a dime to help anyone outside of their church charities. And posting a link to a column isn't really proof that republicans give more. I'm sure you could find an article that says democrats give more. I'm going by what I know, and the people I know, and the republicans only give when it will make them look good. Almost ALL the charities in my area that aren't church run are funded by democrats. I'm sure in some places, republicans do give more than they do around here, but I find it hard to believe they give more in general.

glennac
05-20-2008, 04:08 PM
I call anybody who is far right, or far left, a nut. It's hard to argue that some on here don't fit that description. You all have the same attitude, and label anyone that disagrees with you, or maybe leans left on even one issue, an evil, bleeding heart liberal. I don't wish ANYONE a death like the one Kennedy may well end up having. I think the guys bonkers as much as you do, but cheering when someone has cancer is just wrong, no matter what you think of him.

How about addressing your false statement that Liberals are more generous than Conservative air. Please post your link showing this. Here are a few quotes from some links.

http://geek-usa.mu.nu/archives/206601.php
"One of the most pervasive political visions of our time is the vision of liberals as compassionate and conservatives as less caring. It is liberals who advocate "forgiveness" of loans to Third World countries, a "living wage" for the poor and a "safety net" for all.
But these are all government policies -- not individual acts of compassion -- and the actual empirical consequences of such policies are of remarkably little interest to those who advocate them. Depending on what those consequences are, there may be good reasons to oppose them, so being for or against these policies may tell us nothing about who is compassionate or caring and who is not."

http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v19/i04/04001101.htm
"Brooks finds that religious conservatives are far more charitable than secular liberals, and that those who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others."

wallynut
05-20-2008, 04:11 PM
[QUOTE=air311;1865316]you're all acting like he deserves to have brain cancer.

[SIZE="6"]We are all. EXCUSE ME. :mad:

air311
05-20-2008, 04:14 PM
How about addressing your false statement that Liberals are more generous than Conservative air. Please post your link showing this. Here are a few quotes from some links.

http://geek-usa.mu.nu/archives/206601.php
"One of the most pervasive political visions of our time is the vision of liberals as compassionate and conservatives as less caring. It is liberals who advocate "forgiveness" of loans to Third World countries, a "living wage" for the poor and a "safety net" for all.
But these are all government policies -- not individual acts of compassion -- and the actual empirical consequences of such policies are of remarkably little interest to those who advocate them. Depending on what those consequences are, there may be good reasons to oppose them, so being for or against these policies may tell us nothing about who is compassionate or caring and who is not."

http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v19/i04/04001101.htm
"Brooks finds that religious conservatives are far more charitable than secular liberals, and that those who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others."
I stated that I am going on what I see around here, in my area. Outside of the church charities, republicans/conservatives don't give squat. So how is my statement false? That story in that link you posted obviously has a bias to it. You seem to think everything that shows how great the repuplicans/conservatives are and how uncaring and evil the democrats are is 100% true. Yet, anything that shows the opposite must be an outright lie. I don't trust ANY story like the one in that link, I don't care what side it's trying to make look good, because there's ALWAYS a bias or an agenda.

glennac
05-20-2008, 04:20 PM
I know plenty of conservative/republicans that won't give a dime to help anyone outside of their church charities. And posting a link to a column isn't really proof that republicans give more. I'm sure you could find an article that says democrats give more. I'm going by what I know, and the people I know, and the republicans only give when it will make them look good. Almost ALL the charities in my area that aren't church run are funded by democrats. I'm sure in some places, republicans do give more than they do around here, but I find it hard to believe they give more in general.

Here are a few more links air. Try Google liberal / conservative charity. You will find dozens of links showing the large gap where study after study show that conservatives on the average donnate 30% more to charity than the "caring" liberals. We are waiting for your link defending your false statement or a retraction stating that you made a mistake. We are waiting.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/12/who_gives_to_charity.html

http://talkingpoints.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/conservative-vs-liberal-charity-donations/

air311
05-20-2008, 04:26 PM
Here are a few more links air. Try Google liberal / conservative charity. You will find dozens of links showing the large gap where study after study show that conservatives on the average donnate 30% more to charity than the "caring" liberals. We are waiting for your link defending your false statement or a retraction stating that you made a mistake. We are waiting.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/12/who_gives_to_charity.html

http://talkingpoints.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/conservative-vs-liberal-charity-donations/ WHAT FALSE STATEMENT? Every post you make it seems as if you accuse someone of making a false statement. I stated, once again, that I was just going by WHAT I KNOW AND SEE IN MY AREA. Got that now? Can you understand that? The people around here will only give when at church or at some church sponsored event, and then they only give to what their church wants them to give to.
Maybe it's not that way everywhere, but get a christian outside of church, and they don't like to give around here.

air311
05-20-2008, 04:31 PM
Here are a few more links air. Try Google liberal / conservative charity. You will find dozens of links showing the large gap where study after study show that conservatives on the average donnate 30% more to charity than the "caring" liberals. We are waiting for your link defending your false statement or a retraction stating that you made a mistake. We are waiting.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/12/who_gives_to_charity.html

http://talkingpoints.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/conservative-vs-liberal-charity-donations/

That first linkwas about the same guy that wrote the story in your first link. And they used San Fran frickin' Cisco? Well duhhhhh....

wallynut
05-20-2008, 04:44 PM
the republicans only give when it will make them look good. .

Oh, I see, its like all Irish people are real heavy drinkers and french people are kind of stupid and
italian people are in the Mafia and black people are lazy.


I see where your comming from.

glennac
05-20-2008, 04:46 PM
WHAT FALSE STATEMENT? Every post you make it seems as if you accuse someone of making a false statement. I stated, once again, that I was just going by WHAT I KNOW AND SEE IN MY AREA. Got that now? Can you understand that? The people around here will only give when at church or at some church sponsored event, and then they only give to what their church wants them to give to.
Maybe it's not that way everywhere, but get a christian outside of church, and they don't like to give around here.

Ok I get it. If you believe that liberals are more generous than conservatives, then that is a scientific fact and no amount of evidence to the contary will you change your mind or a least make you admit you made a mistake. Of course you know how much the "conservatives" and "liberals" you know give to charity. Very interesting

coordinatesales
05-20-2008, 04:54 PM
WHAT FALSE STATEMENT? Every post you make it seems as if you accuse someone of making a false statement. I stated, once again, that I was just going by WHAT I KNOW AND SEE IN MY AREA. Got that now? Can you understand that? The people around here will only give when at church or at some church sponsored event, and then they only give to what their church wants them to give to.
Maybe it's not that way everywhere, but get a christian outside of church, and they don't like to give around here.

I think most christians give through their church because they are comfortable that the money will be used in a way the person supports. I given to the United Way and seen money go to organizations I wouldn't support. As a result, I now give mostly to my church were I see the money used to help disaster victims or other deserving people. I also back up my beliefs with action. I spent 9 days in the Dominican Republic building outhouses for people living in shacks. That was organized through.....my church. I also give to goodwill, salvation army, and sometimes to United Cerebral Palsy. It just comes down to many christians, like myself, give to organizations we are comfortable with and that usually starts with our church.

coordinatesales
05-20-2008, 05:02 PM
I call anybody who is far right, or far left, a nut. It's hard to argue that some on here don't fit that description. You all have the same attitude, and label anyone that disagrees with you, or maybe leans left on even one issue, an evil, bleeding heart liberal. I don't wish ANYONE a death like the one Kennedy may well end up having. I think the guys bonkers as much as you do, but cheering when someone has cancer is just wrong, no matter what you think of him.

To get back to the intent/subject of the OP. I started to post earlier but I didn't like my wording so I canceled it and just now got back to it. I have no love lost for Kennedy but the christian part of me that values life and tells me to love my enemies makes it hard to wish harm for him. Many of his views/actions I consider to be outright EVIL and I want nothing more than to see him out of any leadership/influence position but as a human, and I have to recognize that he is one, I cannot wish him harm. Hate the sin, love the sinner. It's not just something to say when it's convenient.

mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 05:09 PM
I think the guys bonkers as much as you do, but cheering when someone has cancer is just wrong, no matter what you think of him.

Who's cheering. Just because we have no sympathy for him?

Are the conservatives/republicans a different skin color in your state? How do you KNOW which are which? And, what they may feel or think? Or, are you going on people you know personally and intimately in that you ask their political outlook, their level of compassion etc.?

You know a lot for knowing very little. :p

mrs reb77
05-20-2008, 05:11 PM
Outside of the church charities, republicans/conservatives don't give squat.

Broad sweeping statement. You can't back it up. This is the gist of what Glenn is calling your false statement.
You see tax returns along with political affiliations? How do you make such a generalization?

:rolleyes:

tunnel_rat
05-20-2008, 06:04 PM
Good riddens to bad rubbish. You just knew this one was comming..........

I'll drink one, or 12 for 'im tonite....:D

hvacker
05-20-2008, 06:33 PM
These posts are mean spirited.

Kennedy made a mistake that he has paid for his whole life. He didn't kill anyone.
Some of you really need a tune up. For working stiffs you really don't know who butters your bread.
Kennedy worked harder for the working man than ANYONE on the hill. Every thing from health insurance for every body, minimum wage, workers rights and much more.
WHO?? WHO sides with workers in Washington???
Why do so many of you support those that would rather bury you than give a damn?
Kennedy is the greatest asset the working person has had.

Oh, but wait... I forgot I'm posting to parrotheads.

No need to respond as I already read your thoughts.

tunnel_rat
05-20-2008, 06:50 PM
These posts are mean spirited.

Kennedy made a mistake that he has paid for his whole life. He didn't kill anyone.


Fine, I have a frikkin' right to be as mean spirited ( most limp-wristed term I ever heard) as I want....

Killed no one??
I think the coroner might disagree with that.....;)

jpb2
05-20-2008, 07:05 PM
Teddy is a puss filled boil on the ass of society. I dont wish him dead. I hope he recovers. Then I hope America gets their heads outa there ass and get a clue. The republican party had some great canidates. Why the hell are we left with Johhny boy ? Poor choice at best. Maybe Ted will get swiming lessons as rehab. Golden:)

hvacker
05-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Fine, I have a frikkin' right to be as mean spirited ( most limp-wristed term I ever heard) as I want....

Killed no one??
I think the coroner might disagree with that.....;)

I was trying to keep it civil but if for a minute you think I'm limp wristed puppy boy anytime anywhere.

pabull
05-20-2008, 07:23 PM
You right wing nuts may not care for the guy, hell, I ain't to fond of him, but damn, this is sad. I know conservatives are for the most part compassionless people, but you're all acting like he deserves to have brain cancer. I can only imagine what you all would have said if this was your precious ol Ronnie Reagan laying on his death bed with alzheimers, and there were people saying the same things about him that you are saying about Kennedy.The Daily KOS and The Huffington post...among other liberal douche-sites, had PLENTY of venom to spew about Reagan as he was dying. When he did die...the libs had a field day!! But no one was allowed to make that fact known in the left-leaning media. Get a clue.:rolleyes:

Snapperhead
05-20-2008, 07:27 PM
I was trying to keep it civil but if for a minute you think I'm limp wristed puppy boy anytime anywhere.
INTERNET FIGHT !!!!!

Yeeeeeehaawwwww puttem up boys lets see some keyboards fly

glennac
05-20-2008, 07:28 PM
The Daily KOS and The Huffington post...among other liberal douche-sites, had PLENTY of venom to spew about Reagan as he was dying. When he did die...the libs had a field day!! But no one was allowed to make that fact known in the left-leaning media. Get a clue.:rolleyes:

Yeah and who did Regan murder? No one.

Snapperhead
05-20-2008, 07:33 PM
Yeah and who did Regan murder? No one.
Yes he DID

He's responsible for the murdering of all these poor helpless polar bears falling off melting icebergs . Shame on him .

No wait .... Henry Ford made the polluting gasoline engine .... whoops nevermind , carry on .

tunnel_rat
05-20-2008, 07:39 PM
I was trying to keep it civil but if for a minute you think I'm limp wristed puppy boy anytime anywhere.

I said the term was limp-wristed. If you inferred that as attack on your "manhood", sorry. I hope you're not offended.Sheees...:rolleyes:

Again, lets forget the argument and focus on semantics......

Sure buddy.....meet you in Texas tomorrow and we'll really settle this.......:D

pabull
05-20-2008, 07:39 PM
Since it seems that liberal cheeseheads cant read or comprehend English...lets try this again.....hmmm:

News says Ted has a malignant brain tumor.
I guess all those years of pickling his brain didn't help.

Sorry....but he wont be missed.

Now where pray tell did I say ANYTHING about wishing him dead. I am just stating a fact that is the same as MOST of the citizens of our nation........HE WILL NOT BE MISSED!!!:rolleyes: The crap this douche has pulled and got away with...I'm sure satan is building a special blast furnace in hell...just to accomodate the big fire needed to cook his big a$$!!!

tunnel_rat
05-20-2008, 07:46 PM
Since it seems that liberal cheeseheads cant read or comprehend English...lets try this again.....hmmm:

News says Ted has a malignant brain tumor.
I guess all those years of pickling his brain didn't help.

Sorry....but he wont be missed.

Now where pray tell did I say ANYTHING about wishing him dead. I am just stating a fact that is the same as MOST of the citizens of our nation........HE WILL NOT BE MISSED!!!:rolleyes: The crap this douche has pulled and got away with...I'm sure satan is building a special blast furnace in hell...just to accomodate the big fire needed to cook his big a$$!!!

Can we say BBQ ? Slow roasted, with garlic and hot chilis...............mmmmmm ...Teddy

k-fridge
05-20-2008, 07:48 PM
These posts are mean spirited.

Kennedy made a mistake that he has paid for his whole life. He didn't kill anyone.
Some of you really need a tune up. For working stiffs you really don't know who butters your bread.
Kennedy worked harder for the working man than ANYONE on the hill. Every thing from health insurance for every body, minimum wage, workers rights and much more.
WHO?? WHO sides with workers in Washington???
Why do so many of you support those that would rather bury you than give a damn?
Kennedy is the greatest asset the working person has had.

Oh, but wait... I forgot I'm posting to parrotheads.

No need to respond as I already read your thoughts.
I will agree that we shouldn't wish sickness or death on most anyone. Maybe an azz whoopin, but I take no joy in Teddy being sick.

As to Teddy helping the working man.....Teddy has no idea what a working man does. He was born to extreme privilege and has never held a real job in his life, how can he understand the working man? The hardest work he's ever done is lifting drinks from the bar to his face. All he has done is pander to the less educated/less informed sector, and insulted them by calling them the working man.

Rant over :p

jmac00
05-20-2008, 07:50 PM
Like I said, Mary Jo will meet him at the Pearly Gates and beat his ass all the way to hell :p

Snapperhead
05-20-2008, 08:30 PM
There once was a senator from Mass,
Who went in search of some ass,
He lucked up and found it,
phukd up and drowned it,
And now he can't escape from his past.

jmac00
05-20-2008, 08:39 PM
There once was a senator from Mass,
Who went in search of some ass,
He lucked up and found it,
phukd up and drowned it,
And now he can't escape from his past.


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

crackertech
05-20-2008, 08:49 PM
There once was a senator from Mass,
Who went in search of some ass,
He lucked up and found it,
phukd up and drowned it,
And now he can't escape from his past.

:D:D:D LOL good one.:)

RoBoTeq
05-20-2008, 11:21 PM
I just can't figure out why Ted Kennedy having a brain tumor is news. I just figured he's always had something like a brain tumor in order to come up with the crap he's been pushing for so many decades. At least now he has an excuse.

glennac
05-20-2008, 11:24 PM
I just can't figure out why Ted Kennedy having a brain tumor is news. I just figured he's always had something like a brain tumor in order to come up with the crap he's been pushing for so many decades. At least now he has an excuse.

That was very kind and gentle of you Robo.:D:D:)

r404a
05-21-2008, 12:59 AM
You right wing nuts may not care for the guy, hell, I ain't to fond of him, but damn, this is sad. I know conservatives are for the most part compassionless people, but you're all acting like he deserves to have brain cancer. I can only imagine what you all would have said if this was your precious ol Ronnie Reagan laying on his death bed with alzheimers, and there were people saying the same things about him that you are saying about Kennedy.

Air311 was the first one to have the sense to say this. You knuckleheads should be ashamed of yourselves.

r404a

chaard
05-21-2008, 01:23 AM
I want to re-state my position. Don't know the guy personally and just want to say it's sad that anyone has to be sick, I hope he knows his Savior personally. Unforgiveness and anomosity is an ugly beast. We all will recieve our reward.

the mojo
05-21-2008, 06:20 AM
We can go through life and will always find a reason to judge our fellow man.

This is our nature.

Although I feel no ill will toward Ted he too will stand before his maker.

One person, one soul God will not be mocked.

Put yourself in Ted's shoes for just a moment, that just scares the hell out of me.

bootlen
05-21-2008, 07:26 AM
You right wing nuts may not care for the guy, hell, I ain't to fond of him, but damn, this is sad. I know conservatives are for the most part compassionless people, but you're all acting like he deserves to have brain cancer. I can only imagine what you all would have said if this was your precious ol Ronnie Reagan laying on his death bed with alzheimers, and there were people saying the same things about him that you are saying about Kennedy.

The thing is, Air, is that people did ride RR. Did you forget the age/senility/Alzheimers punditry? And nobody from the right got "righteously indignant". The right did defend RR's policies and administration and did so with accuracy. Can you defend anything Chappaquiddick Teddy has done from which he did not personally benefit himself? No. You cannot. He has striven to make the citizens of the US to be totally dependent on Uncle Sam. That puts power in Teddy's hands. The guy is scum. I have less than no respect for him.

Snapperhead
05-21-2008, 07:32 AM
America is just like a big ol melting pot . The hardworking honest man gets burnt and settles to the bottom , while the scum floats to the top .

jmac00
05-21-2008, 07:44 AM
Air311 was the first one to have the sense to say this. You knuckleheads should be ashamed of yourselves.

r404a


why? I didn't kill someone with my car and get away with it. :mad:

coordinatesales
05-21-2008, 10:30 AM
There once was a senator from Mass,
Who went in search of some ass,
He lucked up and found it,
phukd up and drowned it,
And now he can't escape from his past.

That there is funny!

mrs reb77
05-21-2008, 10:32 AM
Air311 was the first one to have the sense to say this. You knuckleheads should be ashamed of yourselves.

r404a

No, we're just not hypocrites. Most logical thinking people don't feel sympathy for killers on death row either.

k-fridge
05-21-2008, 11:18 AM
http://www.crackmeup.com/images/shirts/1310092D.jpg

tunnel_rat
05-21-2008, 06:11 PM
http://www.crackmeup.com/images/shirts/1310092D.jpg


Now that's............................................ .................................................. .....................






........................probably true. ;)

whec720
05-21-2008, 06:40 PM
" Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law?
Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty? "
~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973


Hmmm...I wonder which system he thinks he is under?

jmac00
05-21-2008, 09:28 PM
" Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law?
Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty? "
~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973


Hmmm...I wonder which system he thinks he is under?

oooh theres definitely a 2 tier system. Lets revisit the OJ Simpson debacle? or How about Robert Blake?

If you got money, you can get away with anything:mad:

whec720
05-21-2008, 09:38 PM
oooh theres definitely a 2 tier system. Lets revisit the OJ Simpson debacle? or How about Robert Blake?

If you got money, you can get away with anything:mad:

Ted proved that way before O.J.'s troubles. Yet he still pours on the tripe like he is soooo for the working man. I was pointing out what a hypocrite he is, among others things....:rolleyes:

glennac
05-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Strange a lot of the folks who are upset because we aren't crying for Ted who should be in a prison hospital like the rest of us would be if we did what he did. Those same folks aren't too civil on this forum when one of us gores one of their sacred cows and then start name calling and acting very uncivil and show no restraint. The liberals trashed Regan and he never hurt a soul.

When Hubert Humphry died from cancer conservatives phrased him even though they disagreed with him because he was a gentleman unlike Ted Kennedy. I always thought one of the most outrages things he ever did outside of murdering Mary Jo was condemning Justice Clarence Thomas during his confirmation hearings. He has no right to say anything about anybody and here he was telling lies and BS about Clarance Thomas because he wasn't a commie lover like he was and he had left the Democratic Plantation which most Blacks are still on today.

whec720
05-21-2008, 10:05 PM
Strange a lot of the folks who are upset because we aren't crying for Ted who should be in a prison hospital like the rest of us would be if we did what he did. Those same folks aren't too civil on this forum when one of us gores one of their sacred cows and then start name calling and acting very uncivil and show no restraint. The liberals trashed Regan and he never hurt a soul.

When Hubert Humphry died from cancer conservatives phrased him even though they disagreed with him because he was a gentleman unlike Ted Kennedy. I always thought one of the most outrages things he ever did outside of murdering Mary Jo was condemning Justice Clarence Thomas during his confirmation hearings. He has no right to say anything about anybody and here he was telling lies and BS about Clarance Thomas because he wasn't a commie lover like he was and he had left the Democratic Plantation which most Blacks are still on today.

I like Thomas. He is courageous. Think of the pressure put upon him by the black elites. You don't do what they want, as a black man, you are branded a "Uncle Tom". Groups, like the NAACP will $h!t down your throat and literally try to destroy you. Douche bags, like Ted Kennedy, then hop on the bandwagon and join in on the feeding frenzy. Thomas sure can attest to that.
Libs in this forum complain of the lack of respect towards Ted. I ask, what respect has Ted Kennedy shown to others? He certainly didn't show any to Mary Jo. For crying out loud, DOGS DIE A BETTER DEATH! This POS doesn't even have the decency to call ambulance. If anyone had done the same on this board, we would have done atleast some time in prison. Not Ted.....nooooooo.......Here's $90,000....now STFU......OR ELSE!! This man deserves NO RESPECT.

hvacker
05-21-2008, 10:10 PM
Having someone die in a car wreck isn't murder. Get it right.
I know a person that was born in mass, not necessarily a dem, that spent summers on the Cape. She said Chappaquiddick was a bog. Murky waters, at night. She said there was probably no way Kennedy could have done a thing. Visibility zero. Scared.
But I know by the arrogrance on this thread no one here will ever make a mistake like that as they are too moral. Right??

I think his service to the working person is his pride. He didn't have to. Hell, he could have been a lazy sob. He didn't. Maybe some of you instead of supporting Limpballs might take the time to look at how he served you.

Back to the working stiffs. Who else will speak for you?

And Glen, knock it off. Murder deals with intent not an accident.
And Regan did in fact hurt souls. How about destroying the middle class.
Oh ya, and that great quote," Well, how many redwood trees do you need>"

k-fridge
05-21-2008, 10:14 PM
Having someone die in a car wreck isn't murder. Get it right.
I know a person that was born in mass, not necessarily a dem, that spent summers on the Cape. She said Chappaquiddick was a bog. Murky waters, at night. She said there was probably no way Kennedy could have done a thing. Visibility zero. Scared.
But I know by the arrogrance on this thread no one here will ever make a mistake like that as they are too moral. Right??

I think his service to the working person is his pride. He didn't have to. Hell, he could have been a lazy sob. He didn't. Maybe some of you instead of supporting Limpballs might take the time to look at how he served you.

Back to the working stiffs. Who else will speak for you?

And Glen, knock it off. Murder deals with intent not an accident.
And Regan did in fact hurt souls. How about destroying the middle class.
Oh ya, and that great quote," Well, how many redwood trees do you need>"
Reagan didn't destroy the middle class. He helped them become more affluent and now the Democrats call them rich.

hvacker
05-21-2008, 10:17 PM
I said the term was limp-wristed. If you inferred that as attack on your "manhood", sorry. I hope you're not offended.Sheees...:rolleyes:

Again, lets forget the argument and focus on semantics......

Sure buddy.....meet you in Texas tomorrow and we'll really settle this.......:D


Ya, I take issue with that. And if you chose to "rolleyes" I'll guess I'll wonder about your Manhood. I gotta go to Wyoming tomorrow for awhile but I'll be back. You know where I live by my profile. It's a small town. Exactly where in Texas. It's right next door.

whec720
05-21-2008, 10:26 PM
Having someone die in a car wreck isn't murder. Get it right.
I know a person that was born in mass, not necessarily a dem, that spent summers on the Cape. She said Chappaquiddick was a bog. Murky waters, at night. She said there was probably no way Kennedy could have done a thing. Visibility zero. Scared.
But I know by the arrogrance on this thread no one here will ever make a mistake like that as they are too moral. Right??

I think his service to the working person is his pride. He didn't have to. Hell, he could have been a lazy sob. He didn't. Maybe some of you instead of supporting Limpballs might take the time to look at how he served you.

Back to the working stiffs. Who else will speak for you?

And Glen, knock it off. Murder deals with intent not an accident.
And Regan did in fact hurt souls. How about destroying the middle class.
Oh ya, and that great quote," Well, how many redwood trees do you need>"

Gee, I hope I am never in the same car as you. I suppose if the very same thing happened you would ditch the scene and not even report it to the authorities. The next morning would come and two fisherman would happen across the accident scene an REPORT IT! The authorities would respond and find my lifeless body, as well as the license plate to the car. Tracing the plate number, they would find the car belonged to hvacker.
You're cool with that. Nothing wrong there?
Accidents do happen but you should own up to them. And for cripe shake, get help for those in life or death situations.....BE A HUMAN BEING!

jmac00
05-21-2008, 10:44 PM
Having someone die in a car wreck isn't murder. Get it right.
I know a person that was born in mass, not necessarily a dem, that spent summers on the Cape. She said Chappaquiddick was a bog. Murky waters, at night. She said there was probably no way Kennedy could have done a thing. Visibility zero. Scared.

your "friend" is full of crap. For one thing, Chappaquiddick is on the east end of Martha's Vineyard.

Second, Kennedy "knew" the area well he had driven that road many times. he was drunk, missed his turn and Mary Jo died in the back seat of the car. Kennedy made said he made several attempts to rescue her FROM SHORE by calling her name. He said, he (Ted) then walked back to the party, where all this started, by his own admission he walked past at least 4 occupied homes where he could have summoned help, yet he did not even attempt to knock on any doors, he continued (walking) back to the party.

The entire incident can be viewed here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident


Kennedy may have not "murdered" Mary Jo, but at the very least it was criminally negligent homicide :mad:


but i digress, you bleeding heart liberals think it's perfectly okay for the 'elite" to do whatever the damn well please:rolleyes::mad:

mrs reb77
05-21-2008, 11:00 PM
Well....it's not like he meant to do it.
That changes everything you know.


:eek:

k-fridge
05-21-2008, 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by tunnel_rat http://www.hvac-talk.com/vbb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=1865579#post1865579)
I said the term was limp-wristed. If you inferred that as attack on your "manhood", sorry. I hope you're not offended.Sheees...:rolleyes:

Again, lets forget the argument and focus on semantics......

Sure buddy.....meet you in Texas tomorrow and we'll really settle this.......:D



Ya, I take issue with that. And if you chose to "rolleyes" I'll guess I'll wonder about your Manhood. I gotta go to Wyoming tomorrow for awhile but I'll be back. You know where I live by my profile. It's a small town. Exactly where in Texas. It's right next door.

Gentlemen,

The ARPC is going to assume for now that you guys are just kidding. Threats of violence are a big no-no here.

jmac00
05-21-2008, 11:04 PM
Well....it's not like he meant to do it.
That changes everything you know.


:eek:

Didn't Robert Blake say the same thing :confused::cool:

Admin
05-21-2008, 11:08 PM
Gentlemen,

The ARPC is going to assume for now that you guys are just kidding. Threats of violence are a big no-no here.


And I will say this.

Any more threats, in jest or not, will grant the poster an automatic 90 day suspension.

Clear enough?

ARPC: No discussion will be needed. Anymore threats, please ban the offending member for 90 days. Period.

air311
05-22-2008, 12:53 PM
These posts are mean spirited.

Kennedy made a mistake that he has paid for his whole life. He didn't kill anyone.
Some of you really need a tune up. For working stiffs you really don't know who butters your bread.
Kennedy worked harder for the working man than ANYONE on the hill. Every thing from health insurance for every body, minimum wage, workers rights and much more.
WHO?? WHO sides with workers in Washington???
Why do so many of you support those that would rather bury you than give a damn?
Kennedy is the greatest asset the working person has had.

Oh, but wait... I forgot I'm posting to parrotheads.

No need to respond as I already read your thoughts.
Now THAT was good.

air311
05-22-2008, 01:01 PM
Ok I get it. If you believe that liberals are more generous than conservatives, then that is a scientific fact and no amount of evidence to the contary will you change your mind or a least make you admit you made a mistake. Of course you know how much the "conservatives" and "liberals" you know give to charity. Very interesting

I don't recall saying liberals are more generous than conservatives, I just said a lot of conservatives are compassionless people, just as many liberals are unless being compassionate in someway will benefit them. I said I was going on what I know, what people are like in my area. I believe I clarified that before.

air311
05-22-2008, 01:04 PM
Since it seems that liberal cheeseheads cant read or comprehend English...lets try this again.....hmmm:

News says Ted has a malignant brain tumor.
I guess all those years of pickling his brain didn't help.

Sorry....but he wont be missed.

Now where pray tell did I say ANYTHING about wishing him dead. I am just stating a fact that is the same as MOST of the citizens of our nation........HE WILL NOT BE MISSED!!!:rolleyes: The crap this douche has pulled and got away with...I'm sure satan is building a special blast furnace in hell...just to accomodate the big fire needed to cook his big a$$!!!

Who are you calling liberal? Do you just make random judgements of people after reading a few things they type on an internet forum? You fit in nicely here.

air311
05-22-2008, 01:10 PM
How many people that kill someone in a car accident, drunk or not, go to prison for any length of time? Yes, he should have gotten a lot more punishment than he did for that accident..I totally agree with that. Funny, if a republican was in the same situation, i'm sure none of you would say a word..he would be forgiving..because well, it's the christian thing to do.

jrbenny
05-22-2008, 01:20 PM
How many people that kill someone in a car accident, drunk or not, go to prison for any length of time? Yes, he should have gotten a lot more punishment than he did for that accident..I totally agree with that. Funny, if a republican was in the same situation, i'm sure none of you would say a word..he would be forgiving..because well, it's the christian thing to do.
You could stand next to my garden and spew for a while. I'd have a lush garden with that pure fertilizer.

zzonko
05-22-2008, 01:40 PM
www.ytedk.com (http://www.ytedk.com)


The Chapp. event happened during a major life change for me and I missed most of it. The link above tells the whole story. He should be ashamed to this day. She didnt drown, she suffocated in an air-pocket and lived possibly 2 hours after.:mad:

forged alloy
05-22-2008, 02:38 PM
I have no intellectual respect for the man, but I wouldn't have anyone pass from this disease were it in my power. I have seen others suffer it, and wouldn't wish or welcome it on anyone. I fear Karma, she's a cruel mistress.

I do give pause to some of the hero worship I hear expressed for him though, some coming from my own party. It paints me a picture of a club of aristocrats playing a public game for show as they argue and fight over bills and politics. All to play to us, on both sides of the aisle, for only their own mutual benefit.

everythingair
05-22-2008, 04:04 PM
Well....it's not like he meant to do it.
That changes everything you know.


:eek:

While Ted Kennedy's guilt for Mary Jo's death is all a matter of conjecture, it certainly makes for quite a case against the man with his actions and lack there of.

It was after all, Kennedy who drove his car into a creek in an area that he knew all of his life. It certainly can be noted that Kennedy never missed that bridge any other time. It may only be a coincidence that an attractive, drunk woman who was not Ted Kennedy's wife was in the back seat of his car on the only night that he drove it into the creek. Maybe there really was no intent for Mary Jo to die that night. Her death may not have even prevented a contraversial charge of Ted Kennedy behaving badly with her. Who knows?

What really makes for a case that there just may have been something going on that would allow Ted Kennedy to benefit from Mary jo's death is how Ted Kennedy did absolutely nothing to try to have her rescued. As a matter of fact, Ted Kennedy's actions (and innactions) that night and the next day, pretty much insurred that Mary Jo would not survive the accident that he walked away from.

Even with the evidence against Ted Kennedy being purely speculative, there is no way anyone could ever convince me that under the circumstances of the way Ted Kennedy behaved after the care went into the creek that Ted Kennedy did not intend for Mary Jo to die.

We are all going to wind up exactly the same way in the end; dead. How we live is what defines our character. I put Ted Kennedy beneath radical Muslims who kill en masse for what they believe in because all Ted Kennedy believes in is Ted Kennedy.

sysint
05-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Volatile thread - can I threaten somebody with a Twinkie?

air311
05-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Volatile thread - can I threaten somebody with a Twinkie?

Nah...I just had a Ho-Ho. Twinkies are good though.

sysint
05-22-2008, 04:43 PM
They seem to last forever. One guy was talking about a teacher who kept them dated at school for a couple decades and at the end of the year would eat the oldest ones.... still "good" after decades.

If that's not a top level threat, I don't know what is...

air311
05-22-2008, 04:48 PM
They seem to last forever. One guy was talking about a teacher who kept them dated at school for a couple decades and at the end of the year would eat the oldest ones.... still "good" after decades.

If that's not a top level threat, I don't know what is...

They're just air, filling and preservatives. I saw a thing where Hostess said Twinkies have a shelf life of 5 weeks.

sysint
05-22-2008, 04:49 PM
Well, Twinkies last decades. Do you think they want to advertise that?

air311
05-22-2008, 04:51 PM
Well, Twinkies last decades. Do you think they want to advertise that?

They'll go bad if they're not kept in the right conditions..at least they get stale to the point where they're unedible.

whec720
05-22-2008, 04:58 PM
They'll go bad if they're not kept in the right conditions..at least they get stale to the point where they're unedible.

Hmmm...I always thought those things could survive a nuclear blast.:D

sysint
05-22-2008, 05:33 PM
How do you say nuclear?

whec720
05-22-2008, 05:58 PM
http://www.ready.gov/america/beinformed/nuclear.html


;)

chaard
05-23-2008, 01:44 AM
Who are you calling liberal? Do you just make random judgements of people after reading a few things they type on an internet forum? You fit in nicely here.



Funny, if a republican was in the same situation, i'm sure none of you would say a word..he would be forgiving..because well, it's the christian thing to do.




I don't recall saying liberals are more generous than conservatives, I just said a lot of conservatives are compassionless people, just as many liberals are unless being compassionate in someway will benefit them. I said I was going on what I know, what people are like in my area. I believe I clarified that before.


Is that not the pot calling the kettle black.:rolleyes:

air311
05-23-2008, 10:51 AM
Is that not the pot calling the kettle black.:rolleyes:

Huh?

mrs reb77
05-23-2008, 01:57 PM
Yes, that is Chaard. But they don't see it that way. ;)