Outrage: DNC Ad Shows U.S. Soldiers Being Blown Up

[k-fridge]

Seems veterans are not so happy about this. Did the Dems go too far this time?

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/mccain_ad_DNC_troops/2008/04/28/91751.html

[mrs reb77]

:mad:
The footage appears similar to film taken by jihadists who videotape IED explosions that kill American combat troops. The jihadists place the video on the internet to tout their "kill Americans" campaign success. The Army estimates that more than 6,500 jihadist Web sites promote violence against America and American troops.

So, who exactly is the DNC wanting to support here? :( :mad:

Just another volley in their--"OOhhhh you can't say stuff like that, my feelings will be hurt" turn around and crap on America campaign.

[tunnel_rat]

Jeez, I'm glad there were no cartoons run, that might have got folks worked up...:rolleyes:

[sline-dawg]

How do you think those 4,000 US soldiers died.???


I didn't get to see it, but my wifes cousin died in a similar fashion... It damn sure wasn't an accident.....:(


I guess if you can't see it.... then it doesn't really happen.

[glennac]

:mad:
The footage appears similar to film taken by jihadists who videotape IED explosions that kill American combat troops. The jihadists place the video on the internet to tout their "kill Americans" campaign success. The Army estimates that more than 6,500 jihadist Web sites promote violence against America and American troops.

So, who exactly is the DNC wanting to support here? :( :mad:

Just another volley in their--"OOhhhh you can't say stuff like that, my feelings will be hurt" turn around and crap on America campaign.

The DNC is our enemy along with Al-Qaeda in my opinion. They are anti American and want us to lose in Iraq. They want us to retreat in disgrace. They only want us to lose like in Korea, Vietnam and now Iraq. They will destroy our country to mold us into a communist socialist state if they get there way.

[coordinatesales]

If the govt has released that video the DNC would have been screaming to high heaven! (Even the ones who don't believe in it) They would be ready to lynch the Bush's. But it's OK, if they are using it for their own gain.

[mrs reb77]

How do you think those 4,000 US soldiers died.???


I didn't get to see it, but my wifes cousin died in a similar fashion... It damn sure wasn't an accident.....:(


I guess if you can't see it.... then it doesn't really happen.

I think the majority of realistic American citizens know this. The DNC is playing the old it's okay for me but pity you if you try it. As Classical said, if the Government played this video the DNC would be up in arms about it. Double standard, which they all play at for sure, but perpetuating it blatantly is despicable. As we're constantly reminded, news snippets rarely paint the entire story. McCain's comments were taken out of context and now they are exploiting the death of U.S. Troops to capitalize upon it. In addition, they're breaking the campaign laws...as noted in the article.

[k-fridge]

The big problem I have with it is that they took McCain's statements out of context. Makes it look like he's actually endorsing a 100 year stay in Iraq.

[mrs reb77]

Exactly.
I guess everyone conveniently forgets the U.S. bases scattered across the globe and how they came to be.


I saw a sound bite from the correspondents dinner from the other night. President Bush said he was tired, seemed that the red phone rang at 3 a.m.--was the damn wedding planner! I'm surprised he didn't go on to say how hard it was to get to the dinner while dodging sniper fire...:D

[2cool4us]

Don't watch it. The Republicans can no longer candy coat the true realities of the quagmire. This is reminiscent of the Bush ploy of down playing the caskets of Americans returning stateside. Hillary's machine will overcome and triumph. A mind wasted is a horrible thing. Neoconism is a mentally disabling condition. :eek:

[2cool4us]

The big problem I have with it is that they took McCain's statements out of context. Makes it look like he's actually endorsing a 100 year stay in Iraq.And he is.:confused:

[air311]

The DNC is our enemy along with Al-Qaeda in my opinion. They are anti American and want us to lose in Iraq. They want us to retreat in disgrace. They only want us to lose like in Korea, Vietnam and now Iraq. They will destroy our country to mold us into a communist socialist state if they get there way.

There is medication that can treat paranoia ya know. Maybe you should look into that. Like another poster said, that's how them troops died. How many more have to die that way in Iraq?

[coordinatesales]

I'm surprised he didn't go on to say how hard it was to get to the dinner while dodging sniper fire...:D

Did you see the other day when Bush took shots at all 3 candidates? He said McCain was distancing himself, "That's okay, Jenna is moving out too...", then he said Hillary couldn't make it due to sniper fire and Obama was at church! I thought it was hilarious!

[mrs reb77]

Don't watch it. The Republicans can no longer candy coat the true realities of the quagmire. This is reminiscent of the Bush ploy of down playing the caskets of Americans returning stateside. Hillary's machine will overcome and triumph. A mind wasted is a horrible thing. Neoconism is a mentally disabling condition. :eek:

Hillary's machine! That's one of the best yuks I've had this a.m.

So, you think it would be okay if Obama used that same footage in an ad against Hillary who voted in favor of the war?

[glennac]

There is medication that can treat paranoia ya know. Maybe you should look into that. Like another poster said, that's how them troops died. How many more have to die that way in Iraq?

You can't address my post on how the Democrats have made sure we have lost every war since WWII. Only Republicans have won a war since then and that was the big one the cold war. Go ahead and take your own medication for memory loss and fantacy. I suspect weed in your case.

I don't care to see any American soldier die but fewer are now and we are keeping Al Qudea from taking the country over by hanging in instead of pulling out in discrace as you would like us to do and permit probably a massacre of of everyone who wants democracy and civilization in Iraq. I sure don't want to see another Vietnam or Cambodia on our account thanks to the Democrats in Congress.

[air311]

[QUOTE=glennac;1845777]You can't address my post on how the Democrats have made sure we have lost every war since WWII. Only Republicans have won a war since then and that was the big one the cold war. Go ahead and take your own medication for memory loss and fantacy. I suspect weed in your case.

I don't care to see any American soldier die but fewer are now and we are keeping Al Qudea from taking the country over by hanging in instead of pulling out in discrace as you would like us to do and permit probably a massacre of of everyone who wants democracy and civilization in Iraq. I sure don't want to see another Vietnam or Cambodia on our account thanks to the Democrats in Congress.[/. First you say the democrats have caused us to lose every war since world war 2. We didn't lose Korea ( haven't really won it either, but that's another story), we won desert storm, or at least accomplished our mission then, so they haven't really forced us to lose every war have they? But then you say only republicans have won a war since then. Who was president when vietnam ended? Who was president when we took care of milosivech (spelled wrong?) Ok, that wasn't a war, but technically korea wasn't either. And by the way, how many americans were killed by hostile fire in yugoslavia? And if you're implying that we're winning in Iraq..well I wouldn't call what we're doing winning. The same goes for Afghanistan..we pulled our troops out of there way to early to go to war with Iraq. Haven't really "won" there. The fact is your republicans have won ONE war since vietnam, that being Desert Storm. The cold war would have ended when russia collapsed, I think republicans and old Ronnie get way to much credit for that one. And you talk about Al Qaeda taking over Iraq..well...there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq before we invaded. Now we're stuck staying there so that we can protect the Iraqi people from them. I'm sure they're so grateful that we got Saddam out, only to have Al-Qaeda replace him. You don't want to see another Vietnam, so we should keep our troops there so they can continue to get blown up, just so we don't have to say we didn't "win", or accomplish our goals, whatever they are this week? Or are we there now so that we're right next door to Iran, making it easier to finally deal with them? Which we should have done a long time ago.

[whec720]

Hmmmmm......I wonder if you could get a firm committed answer from the China Doll or Obama when all U.S. troops withdraw from Iraq? Air, put down the buckets, your arms are getting tired.....sheech.:rolleyes:

[glennac]

[quote=glennac;1845777
Who was president when vietnam ended? .

The Democratic controlled Congress and Senate voted against the Republican minority and in defiance of President Nixon wishes cut off all aid to S Vietnam and forbade US millitary to support the S Vietnamese in defending the invasion of S Vietnam by N Vietnam in defiance of the Paris Peace accords. Thus the US under the Democrats stabbed S Vietnam in the back and caused both S Vietnam and Cambodia to get over ran by the communists. About 2,500,000 Cambodians paid with their lives for this. All the teachers, doctors, professionals, businessmen and women and their families were killed in the take over. The Democrats wouldn't allow the US Military to defend the S Vietnamese from the gross violations of the Paris Peace Accords.

[k-fridge]

[quote=glennac;1845777]You can't address my post on how the Democrats have made sure we have lost every war since WWII. Only Republicans have won a war since then and that was the big one the cold war. Go ahead and take your own medication for memory loss and fantacy. I suspect weed in your case.

I don't care to see any American soldier die but fewer are now and we are keeping Al Qudea from taking the country over by hanging in instead of pulling out in discrace as you would like us to do and permit probably a massacre of of everyone who wants democracy and civilization in Iraq. I sure don't want to see another Vietnam or Cambodia on our account thanks to the Democrats in Congress.[/. First you say the democrats have caused us to lose every war since world war 2. We didn't lose Korea ( haven't really won it either, but that's another story), we won desert storm, or at least accomplished our mission then, so they haven't really forced us to lose every war have they? But then you say only republicans have won a war since then. Who was president when vietnam ended? Who was president when we took care of milosivech (spelled wrong?) Ok, that wasn't a war, but technically korea wasn't either. And by the way, how many americans were killed by hostile fire in yugoslavia? And if you're implying that we're winning in Iraq..well I wouldn't call what we're doing winning. The same goes for Afghanistan..we pulled our troops out of there way to early to go to war with Iraq. Haven't really "won" there. The fact is your republicans have won ONE war since vietnam, that being Desert Storm. The cold war would have ended when russia collapsed, I think republicans and old Ronnie get way to much credit for that one. And you talk about Al Qaeda taking over Iraq..well...there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq before we invaded. Now we're stuck staying there so that we can protect the Iraqi people from them. I'm sure they're so grateful that we got Saddam out, only to have Al-Qaeda replace him. You don't want to see another Vietnam, so we should keep our troops there so they can continue to get blown up, just so we don't have to say we didn't "win", or accomplish our goals, whatever they are this week? Or are we there now so that we're right next door to Iran, making it easier to finally deal with them? Which we should have done a long time ago.

We need to teach you how to quote. :D

Copy the text you want to quote. Then click the little thingy just to the left of the # sign. That will put quote tags on your post. Paste your text in between the quote tags.


I'll send you a bill. :p

[glennac]

[quote=air311;1846012]

We need to teach you how to quote. :D


I'll send you a bill. :p

Hey I didn't mess it up. I just pushed the quote button at the right bottom and deleted all the other BS before and after the sentence which I used from air. He messed mine up and I guess it carried on to my post when I quoted his. Send air the bill but make it high.:D I deleted a few sentences in your post also but I'm sure it will come out OK.

[k-fridge]

[quote=k_fridge;1846471]

Hey I didn't mess it up. I just pushed the quote button at the right bottom and deleted all the other BS before and after the sentence which I used from air. He messed mine up and I guess it carried on to my post when I quoted his. Send air the bill but make it high.:D I deleted a few sentences in your post also but I'm sure it will come out OK.
Actually I was addressing air, but with the HTML so screwed up it's hard to tel. LOL

[RoBoTeq]

I wonder if Americans who so desperately want the U.S. to abruptly pull out of Iraq have any clue as to what the results would be? Do they think there would be no issue with the U.S. economy? Do they think that Islamic terrorism would stay focused only in the Middle East if we weren't there?

I have not heard anyone who is spewing out rhetoric about us leaving Iraq give an solutions to the problems doing so would innevitably create.

[2cool4us]

I wonder if Americans who so desperately want the U.S. to abruptly pull out of Iraq have any clue as to what the results would be? Do they think there would be no issue with the U.S. economy? Do they think that Islamic terrorism would stay focused only in the Middle East if we weren't there?

I have not heard anyone who is spewing out rhetoric about us leaving Iraq give an solutions to the problems doing so would innevitably create.It would definitely solve a few problems. Numero uno being the needless waste of American lives.:eek:

[whec720]

It would definitely solve a few problems. Numero uno being the needless waste of American lives.:eek:

Wasted American Lives!?:eek::eek:

Tell that to the people in your avatar. It isn't "too cool" when thousands of gallons of jet fuel are ignited and burning you alive!:mad:

[air311]

Wasted American Lives!?:eek::eek:

Tell that to the people in your avatar. It isn't "too cool" when thousands of gallons of jet fuel are ignited and burning you alive!:mad:

So let's get them back by letting them kill 4 thousand more Americans. Great plan.

[whec720]

So let's get them back by letting them kill 4 thousand more Americans. Great plan.

These were not "wasted lives". These were brave young men and women who volunteered and paid the ultimate sacrifice, so you, here in the homeland, could go to work with out a freaking hijacked jet crashing through your place of work!
Do you not get it or you one of those Rev. Wright, "chickens come home to roost" guys?

[RoBoTeq]

whec, you are arguing with idiots here. These types of people cannot fathom that the reason a thing hasn't happened is becuase it was prevented. To these people, no Americans have been attacked in the U.S. for the past seven years, so we should stop diverting the attention of the Islamic terrorists by keeping the battles in their back yard rather then ours.

[2cool4us]

whec, you are arguing with idiots here. These types of people cannot fathom that the reason a thing hasn't happened is becuase it was prevented. To these people, no Americans have been attacked in the U.S. for the past seven years, so we should stop diverting the attention of the Islamic terrorists by keeping the battles in their back yard rather then ours.Paranoia is a horrible mental condition to live with. :(:eek::p

[The Doctor]

These were not "wasted lives". These were brave young men and women who volunteered and paid the ultimate sacrifice, so you, here in the homeland, could go to work with out a freaking hijacked jet crashing through your place of work!Okay, let's presume that moving a large number of our country's active and reserve military personnel 6,000 miles away would actually prevent some playa-hater who's already in the U.S. from plotting and unleashing mayhem. It makes for a nice bedtime story, but let's face it--neither any amount of years of overseas wars nor the nation-building which ensues will ever free us from the possibility of the terror cell.

Do you not get it or you one of those Rev. Wright, "chickens come home to roost" guys?Let's call it blowback.

[scrogdog]

Paranoia is a horrible mental condition to live with. :(:eek::p

So is uninformed apathy.

[everythingair]

Paranoia is a horrible mental condition to live with. :(:eek::p

There is a misconception among many who have a basically liberal mindset. The belief that conservatively thinking persons are just paranoid is just not accurate. If you look at the statistics of those who become victims, you will find that many more liberal thinking persons are of the victim status. While a crime against any person should not be taken lightly, there are also ways to avoid having aggressive crimes become a way of life.

In this regard; conservatives are not paranoics who believe someone is out to get them, conservative thinking people are paranoics who "know" someone is out to get them, and they are prepared for it.

Is not what the United States government doing in foreign areas of the world where those who wish to do Americans harm mostly a matter of staying prepared?

[whec720]

Okay, let's presume that moving a large number of our country's active and reserve military personnel 6,000 miles away would actually prevent some playa-hater who's already in the U.S. from plotting and unleashing mayhem. It makes for a nice bedtime story, but let's face it--neither any amount of years of overseas wars nor the nation-building which ensues will ever free us from the possibility of the terror cell. Let's call it blowback.

Interesting. Than could you please explain why we have not been attacked, on our home turf, since playing "offense" in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Perhaps we could pull all our troops from Iraq, send Jimmy Carter over to Tehran to broker a peace deal for Iran not to invade Iraq and pursue nuclear weapons. That worked real well in 94 with North Korea....remember?:rolleyes:
Lets use your tactics of "please, pretty please" and see how far it gets us. You don't need a bedtime story.....you're already sleeping.:D

[whec720]

whec, you are arguing with idiots here. These types of people cannot fathom that the reason a thing hasn't happened is becuase it was prevented. To these people, no Americans have been attacked in the U.S. for the past seven years, so we should stop diverting the attention of the Islamic terrorists by keeping the battles in their back yard rather then ours.

Agreed. I realize these guys are Bush haters and buy in to the "change America" crowd. However, leave the wasted lives comments out. Volunteering and sacrificing for your country to keep the pursuit of liberty alive, for all Americans, IS NEVER A WASTE!!