Goodby XP

[Slatts]

Microsoft could re-think plans to phase out its Windows XP operating system by June 30 if customers show they want to keep it but so far they have not, Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said. (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/74720,ballmer-microsoft-could-keep-xp-if-customers-want-it.aspx)

if you aren't ready to move across to Vista it will be in your interest to let Microsoft (http://support.microsoft.com/contactussupport/?ws=support) know.

[NINAX]

Microsoft could re-think plans to phase out its Windows XP operating system by June 30 if customers show they want to keep it but so far they have not, Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said. (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/74720,ballmer-microsoft-could-keep-xp-if-customers-want-it.aspx)

if you aren't ready to move across to Vista it will be in your interest to let Microsoft (http://support.microsoft.com/contactussupport/?ws=support) know.

This is the InfoWorld HELP SAVE XP petition (http://reg.itworld.com/servlet/Frs.frs?Context=LOGENTRY&Source=entdesk080102&Source_BC=13&Script=/LP/80276783/reg&) that was reported on by CNN.

[Slatts]

This is the InfoWorld HELP SAVE XP petition (http://reg.itworld.com/servlet/Frs.frs?Context=LOGENTRY&Source=entdesk080102&Source_BC=13&Script=/LP/80276783/reg&) that was reported on by CNN.
Thanks Ninax, I've just been down to the booth and voted.

[crab master]

Already voted but we should keep this going.

[AutoPilot]

MicroShaft is going to do whatever it wants.... and you're going to like it...

Time to switch operation systems.... Linux is looking pretty good.

[Slatts]

MicroShaft is going to do whatever it wants.... and you're going to like it...

Time to switch operation systems.... Linux is looking pretty good.

Does ultrasite run on Linux?
.... though to be honest I don't know if it runs on Vista.
I'm sure there's a lot of older control software that's not supported by Vista:(

[zzonko]

XP just like r22 will be for sale a long time you can still buy windows 95

http://www.pricewatch.com/software_oper_system/

[Slatts]

XP just like r22 will be for sale a long time you can still buy windows 95

http://www.pricewatch.com/software_oper_system/

Yes but why would you? Having said that I'm writing this on an old laptop running 98se. I've got 4 different communication programs running on it for the local supermarkets.

[zzonko]

Yes but why would you? Having said that I'm writing this on an old laptop running 98se. I've got 4 different communication programs running on it for the local supermarkets.

well some people dont like vista. it had some rollout problems, but I am running it on my laptop for a year now and not 1 problem. blazes too

[ac-inc]

Does ultrasite run on Linux?
.... though to be honest I don't know if it runs on Vista.
I'm sure there's a lot of older control software that's not supported by Vista:(

Does anyone use Linux for working on control systems? We have a few lower end laptops in my office that we were thinking about putting Linux on with some kind of Windows emulator like Wine.

Thanks

[Slatts]

Does anyone use Linux for working on control systems? We have a few lower end laptops in my office that we were thinking about putting Linux on with some kind of Windows emulator like Wine.

Thanks
A bunch called Phasefail (http://www.phasefale.com.au/intro.htm) supply supermarkets with computers with their pressnet communication software running on Red Hat. It interfaces with their prescon control system. The pressnet client is a free download and is written in Java so I think it's cross platform. I could be wrong about that though.

[Ex-Man]

Dell and some other PC manufacturers are planning on selling computers with XP for the foreseeable future. :)

[gbfromsd]

re: Vista
Works fine on my home system. Works great on the three or four laptops I've seen. Unfortunately my CCN service tool no workie on Vista. A few other important proggies are busted too. Must have XP until Carrier, Trane, and a few others get off their a##e#.

[The Doctor]

Just got a laptop from dell with XP. Call me stubborn but I like it.

Thanks for the thread. I petitioned thru infoworld and am composing the thrust for microsoft.

[Burnt-Out]

I have used ubuntu on a couple of my laptops. I wouldnt even think about using wine with any controls package, wine is great for games but I would much rather just run virtual machines with the controls apps loaded inside - that way you can have multiple different isolated " installs" where the apps run natively and you can set up different ones for each system you work on to eliminate conflicting programs.
the best part is, when you get a new laptop you just move the vm to the new machine and everything is as it was on the old laptop.

[Ausccn]

Just got a new precision 6300....no serial ports just 6 x USB and no printer ports as in LPT.....Times are a changing and we have to deal with it..one nice thing is I dont have to use a cross over cable for ethernet connections...saves having another cable with the laptop/ etc......

[joey791]

Guys that petition means nothing Microsoft will drop support for XP no matter what, read about it here,


http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145059-2/no_change_in_xp_plan_despite_ballmer_comment_micro soft_says.html

I know it sucks

[Jack2007]

You guys think Exxon has profit?? Look at Microsoft.

Exxon Mobil
Gross Profit Margin1: 43.3%

Microsoft
Gross Profit Margin: 81.4%

http://www.techvat.com/5-tech-companies-more-profitable-than-exxon-mobil.html
.

[Slatts]

You guys think Exxon has profit?? Look at Microsoft.

Exxon Mobil
Gross Profit Margin1: 43.3%

Microsoft
Gross Profit Margin: 81.4%

http://www.techvat.com/5-tech-companies-more-profitable-than-exxon-mobil.html
.
Microsoft doesn't have to pay for huge ships and giant machinery.
But then come to think of it they did drill a couple of dry wells.
One was called ME and the other is called Vista:p

[digo]

Does anyone use Linux for working on control systems? We have a few lower end laptops in my office that we were thinking about putting Linux on with some kind of Windows emulator like Wine.

Thanks

Tridium will eventually release their Supervisor to run on Linux. (beta at first)
They are looking at providing a full installer and configuration for RedHat.
Most likely other platforms such as Ubuntu will function but be considered unsupported - they'll provide basic instructions on where to put the software, but won't provide an automated installer.