care

[jamiesboat]

Hey is there any way to purchase care 2.2 or newer I have 2 large buildings that are always changing we use a r-200 front end and xl 500,xl 100, xl 50 and I have taken care 1 and 2 i have also taken lonspec training and really want to work with these controls but if I cant do this my self I want to go to some thing else on my newer buildings I use lonspec but I want more bells and whistle's then this gives me and I dont want to hunt down some one every time I add another stage of heat or a/c or change control loops add plants so on is there another software that I can buy that would work with these controlers I have heard in europe contractors are able to buy care with out doing resales if so how please help me.

[lwarren]

Care is up to ver 8 now and SymmetrE or EBI is at ver R310. I don't think you are going to be able to buy Care unless you are an ACI or ACS contractor.

[underrock]

Are you the end-user (customer)? If so you can buy Care through a local rep. Theres some paperwork that you need to sign so they let you know not to do anything illeagal like pirate it. We have done it for a few customers that want to be self maintaining. If you are a contractor I don't think you can unless you become a HW rep a some level.

[jamiesboat]

Are you the end-user (customer)? If so you can buy Care through a local rep. Theres some paperwork that you need to sign so they let you know not to do anything illeagal like pirate it. We have done it for a few customers that want to be self maintaining. If you are a contractor I don't think you can unless you become a HW rep a some level.
I am a end user and we mainain all our own facilities we like care and would only contiue using for our own facilities I have asked my local rep and he pretty much said nothing to me he gave me afew contractors that were ok but hard to get to do any thing but re comision what I have replaced did not want to get involved in changes thanks for your help any other help you can give me would be great:)

[tlp261]

Talk to your local Honeywell branch. They can sell CARE but might strongly recommend you go to training first.

One issue is that you can't get 2.2 anymore. You might need to upgrade the project to the current rev. Do you have the CARE database for what is installed? If not, changes will require re-engineering as CARE can not extract programs from controllers to learn what is there.

If you don't get help, ask for the Sales Manager or District Manager. As end user, you have the right to buy CARE, after you agree to the license agreement.

[jamiesboat]

Talk to your local Honeywell branch. They can sell CARE but might strongly recommend you go to training first.

One issue is that you can't get 2.2 anymore. You might need to upgrade the project to the current rev. Do you have the CARE database for what is installed? If not, changes will require re-engineering as CARE can not extract programs from controllers to learn what is there.

If you don't get help, ask for the Sales Manager or District Manager. As end user, you have the right to buy CARE, after you agree to the license agreement.

Thanks that will help me and I agree with the training I have gone to training for care as well as lonspec and will keep going I am falling for controls and really enjoy it having care will only help with the training thanks again this is a great site I wish I found it earlier

[jamiesboat]

Talk to your local Honeywell branch. They can sell CARE but might strongly recommend you go to training first.

One issue is that you can't get 2.2 anymore. You might need to upgrade the project to the current rev. Do you have the CARE database for what is installed? If not, changes will require re-engineering as CARE can not extract programs from controllers to learn what is there.

If you don't get help, ask for the Sales Manager or District Manager. As end user, you have the right to buy CARE, after you agree to the license agreement.
I do agree training is a must! I have already taken care 1 now I am going for care 2. The soonest I could find for care 2 is Augest hoping there are other courses out there.All I know about is mov and Honeywell I have taken courses with both.If any one knows of any one else please let me knowAnd yes I have the pjt files for my data base so I hope it will make my life easier.

Thanks for all the help from this site.It helps a lot
Jamie:)