Carrier Mini Splits

[deaztrailnutz]

My father recently moved to Buenos Aires, Argentina. The house my father built has 11 carrier mini splits for cooling and radiators (water heated by a natural gas boiler which I couldn't find) for heating (don't ask why they didn't install heat pump mini splits:rolleyes:).

6 of the 11 condensing units are installed on this exterior wall.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0028.jpg

4 More are installed up here.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0030.jpg

Some pics of the air handlers/inside units.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0031.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0032.jpg
I couldn't get close enough to the condensing units to write down their model numbers or capacities, although I do know they're R-22. The entire house, including the interior of the house of the house, is built of brick. After the brick of the interior walls is laid, sheet rock mud is directly applied to the masonry. Quite impressive.

[Cast Iron]

Is that something that is common there, to have that many mini's installed in a home instead of an air handler and duct? For us to do a "cut in" as opposed to installing 11 mini's it would be cheaper, even with the carpentry after the job.

[thoglow]

Now these look like a joy to service.:eek:



http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0030.jpg

[deaztrailnutz]

Is that something that is common there, to have that many mini's installed in a home instead of an air handler and duct? For us to do a "cut in" as opposed to installing 11 mini's it would be cheaper, even with the carpentry after the job.
Yes, actually mini splits are more common in most parts of the world than the ducted systems we use here. Take a look at the mini splits on this building http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0039.jpg http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0062.jpg This is nothing unusual. Most buildings look like this. The Buenos Aires airport itself has a large number of ductless units. After checking in at our gate, we took an escalator to an area that had about 12 ceiling suspended air handlers in a row.

[cmorris]

I would hate to have to services them Bastards!

[deaztrailnutz]

I would hate to have to services them Bastards!

If you think that's bad, take a look at these. http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0039.jpg http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0062.jpg :eek:

[Profiler]

haha! no thank you! :eek:

[housewifehunter]

thats weird, why would the build interior walls with brick? is that a single family home? all those units on the outside walls looks like hammerd ****...

[deaztrailnutz]

thats weird, why would the build interior walls with brick? is that a single family home? all those units on the outside walls looks like hammerd ****...

Every building I was in had brick interior walls, I guess because it lasts longer. Labor is cheap and so is building materials, which is my guess. It is also the norm to mount condensing units on stands there.

[JBM1000]

So the parking lots are full of these too I take it??? :eek:

[jddilligaff37]

ya think there throw aways:D. because no service guy in his right mind going to work on any of those hanging 4,5,20 floors in the air . they are easy to install
i have put 4 or 5 in. they like em in server rooms

[deaztrailnutz]

ya think there throw aways:D. because no service guy in his right mind going to work on any of those hanging 4,5,20 floors in the air . they are easy to install
i have put 4 or 5 in. they like em in server rooms
Several months back someone posted a link to youtube on the wall of shame of someone hanging out a window installing a mini split condenser. I installed a 9,000 BTU minisplit heatpump last friday. Complete installation including start up, wiring and clean up took less than 3 hours. Easy to install, not so easy to work on, especially the new high SEER Mitsubishi's and Sanyo's. When installing 24,000 BTU and larger ductless systems, I prefer Carrier. Carrier's control wiring uses 24v AC like a conventional ducted system, making it much easier to trouble shoot compared to the pulsing 12v DC systems the Japs like to use in their systems.

[FireAir7215]

Yes, actually mini splits are more common in most parts of the world than the ducted systems we use here. Take a look at the mini splits on this building http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0039.jpg http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/deaztrailnutz/DSCN0062.jpg This is nothing unusual. Most buildings look like this. The Buenos Aires airport itself has a large number of ductless units. After checking in at our gate, we took an escalator to an area that had about 12 ceiling suspended air handlers in a row.

Service work at highrise... 6741 ..... Nah, dont think so.:o

[AtticAce]

I don't think these get serviced on site, I have a few of these units installed on high rises (by other knuckle heads). I reach over close the valves pump them down, pull them into the window or on the balcony and disconnect them. We fix them in the shop or just bring another one.

Why do you think they sell the condensers without the evaporators?

[marlboroman]

hehe, service mans dream

[luv2cruiserccl]

just got done putting in 25 of these got it down to around 1 hr and 5 mins. these are nice you can fly doing these.

[deaztrailnutz]

just got done putting in 25 of these got it down to around 1 hr and 5 mins. these are nice you can fly doing these.
They're not hard to install. I like the ceiling suspended indoor units better than the high wall mount units when installing in a high square footage area. What brand did you install?

[hvaclmnop]

Hey boss? Yeah, I'm gonna need the big ladder...no no, the BIG ladder.

And some Depends.

[hvac248]

Compressor change anyone!!

[cc2cuz]

Hey, what did you use for mounting the condensers on the wall? Looks good

[deaztrailnutz]

Hey, what did you use for mounting the condensers on the wall? Looks good

I didn't install the equipment. Stands are available for wall mounting the condesning units as well. I have used them with a fujitsu condensing unit installed above a parking deck. The one I used was ordered through RE Michel.

[small change]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r48/JGerlich71097/JapanVacationPics092.jpg

Just for a change of pace

This pic was taken in Fussa Japan which is a suburb of Toyko

Space is at a priority

[tpa-fl]

Linesets on those mini-splits are a bit sloppy IMO. Also, I wouldn't have put them that high for aesthetics/service issues unless the area has a questionable crime rate. I do like the way the stainless steel mini-split looks 'though.

[deaztrailnutz]

Linesets on those mini-splits are a bit sloppy IMO. Also, I wouldn't have put them that high for aesthetics/service issues unless the area has a questionable crime rate. I do like the way the stainless steel mini-split looks 'though.

Sloppy linesets are nothing unusual. It's considered "the norm" to purchase a lineset longer than needed and simply leave the unused portion rolled up next to the condensing unit. I guess they are too lazy to cut off the excess and re-flare the tubing.

[jumpit]

I hope they pay good.:eek:

[cxagent]

Sloppy linesets are nothing unusual. It's considered "the norm" to purchase a lineset longer than needed and simply leave the unused portion rolled up next to the condensing unit. I guess they are too lazy to cut off the excess and re-flare the tubing.

Some of those are "precharged" linesets made for DIY installation. If you cut the lineset, it isn't DIY anymore.

[deaztrailnutz]

Some of those are "precharged" linesets made for DIY installation. If you cut the lineset, it isn't DIY anymore.

You're probably right. I have seen Carrier, Bryant, LG, White-Westinghouse to name a few for sale in shopping malls and stores open to the public for anyone purchase and install.