Wiring for Infinity Control

[dpal]

Does the Infinity control run on t-stat wire or does it require 120v power?

[bmathews]

Must be a DIY, otherwise you would know the answer to that question.

[RoBoTeq]

A DIYer installing the creme-de-le-creme of the blue ovals dashed proclaimed superior Infinity system; say it ain't so:confused:

I guess it would be even worse if a blue oval technician is asking, eh?

[Twilly]

Twilli says dang you guys are harsh

[dpal]

Doh. No, it's not DIY. I know the rules. And this is a clarifying question; nothing to suggest diy.

I have an electrician coming here tomorrow morning to do some wiring for a renovation. He's going to run the lines for the a/c, but has never seen an infinity control -- and the install is not happening until 10 days from now, so I don't even have a control to look at.

The literature for the control indicates no batteries, etc. Does it run off the 4-wire or house power? I don't think that's an unreasonable question for such an advanced control.

[hetrola]

Doh. No, it's not DIY. I know the rules. And this is more of a clarifying question than a diy.

I have an electrician coming here tomorrow morning to do some wiring for a renovation. He's going to run the lines for the a/c, but has never seen an infinity control -- and the install is not happening until 10 days from now, so I don't even have a control to look at.

The literature for the control indicates no batteries, etc. Does it run off the 4-wire or house power? I don't think that's an unreasonable question for such an advanced control.

Doh, is Homer Simpson here:D

what does your installer say?

[dpal]

... installer is out of office until Tuesday. I already tried the obvious.

[RoBoTeq]

It's all control (low) voltage. Now ask your electrician when the last time he's seen high voltage wires connected to any thermostat controlling a central air system.

[classical]

Robin I just instaled my first Evolution system today and I have to say it is very impressive.

I may actually have to a******* to Dash!

[Mr Bill]

Robin I just installed my first Evolution system today and I have to say it is very impressive.

I may actually have to a******* to Dash!


I know what he is going to say, Man why can't you sell the Big Blue, even thought it's the
same, hey we have installed two RUUD systems this past week and I am still impressed
with them also, but I really like the new Philco Infinity. :eek:

[RoBoTeq]

Robin I just instaled my first Evolution system today and I have to say it is very impressive.

I may actually have to a******* to Dash!
I think that both the Evolution and Infinity are very nice systems. They just aren't the end all of HVAC controls and there are other ways to give the HO the same benefits without using Infinity or Evolution controls.

For the record; I do not believe in forcing a cooling system to override the set temperature for humidity control in a residentual application. I have worked in some of the most humid areas of the world and the only reason that a properly set up cooling system cannot maintain a decent humidity level while keeping the preferred set point is because the system is oversized or there is a hot tub in the living room.

The idea of forcing the system to override the temperature setting and force the temperature of the home to drop below the preferred set point is one that comes from the commercial/industrial market where intense addition of humidity can indeed be a problem that needs to be dealt with more aggressively. Until we start putting reheaters in residential systems, we should not be forcing the cooling cycle to run past the thermostat set point.

And yes, this can be achieved with most variable speed blowers, a humidistat and a Honeywell 8000 series stat with humidity control feature.

[Mr Bill]

Well IMO if you need zoning you need another system, I think the worst mistake builders can make is try and use one large "zoned" system to take care of a two story home or even a large one story, my preference will be and always has been add another system. Example if you have one system on a 3000 sq. ft. home is it more cost effective to run that one large system at night when your in the bed rooms? or would it be more cost effective to add another smaller system for the sleeping areas? and then you have no controls to worry about failing and possibly closing down a zone when there having a really important get together of a lifetime, and you can control both latent and sensible better with two systems IMO, and typically you could probably add another system for what a high dollar zoned system will cost you.

[AcDOCnTRAINING]

Does the Infinity control run on t-stat wire or does it require 120v power?

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Yeah 120v 3ph you need a 2 wire for it :eek:

Dude, this is the time were I honestly tell you hire a profesional or wait for your contractor to come back before you fry your Infinity controller read the warning below!

[dash]

A DIYer installing the creme-de-le-creme of the blue ovals dashed proclaimed superior Infinity system; say it ain't so:confused:

I guess it would be even worse if a blue oval technician is asking, eh?

Did "buck" make you say it?

Plus you're wrong again,why jump down the throat of the OP,just to infalte your ego??

Very helpful,you have an issue with homeowners ,why even post in this section?

[york_hvac]

I think that both the Evolution and Infinity are very nice systems. They just aren't the end all of HVAC controls and there are other ways to give the HO the same benefits without using Infinity or Evolution controls.

For the record; I do not believe in forcing a cooling system to override the set temperature for humidity control in a residentual application. I have worked in some of the most humid areas of the world and the only reason that a properly set up cooling system cannot maintain a decent humidity level while keeping the preferred set point is because the system is oversized or there is a hot tub in the living room.

The idea of forcing the system to override the temperature setting and force the temperature of the home to drop below the preferred set point is one that comes from the commercial/industrial market where intense addition of humidity can indeed be a problem that needs to be dealt with more aggressively. Until we start putting reheaters in residential systems, we should not be forcing the cooling cycle to run past the thermostat set point.

And yes, this can be achieved with most variable speed blowers, a humidistat and a Honeywell 8000 series stat with humidity control feature.

Roboteq,
You may already know this, but the overcooling feature for dehumidimication can be disabled, and controlled only by the variable speed blower.

[cfb]

Plain old thermostat wire, solid conductor, four wires from the thermo to the furnace, and if you have an infinity capable air conditioner, four wires from the furnace to the outside unit.

[aircooled53]

The answer to you question, is if your electrcian is wiring for Infinity system, the only part he would need to know is what amp rating the condenser is and what amp rating the air handler or furnace is.

Electrcians don't wire low voltage to infinity systems, why because they are not certified to do Heat/Ventilated/Air/Conditioning, under an electrical license.:rolleyes: