rtwa100 trane chiller question

[Hrdworkingacguy]

Anyone familiar with the trane rtwa100 chiller with 2 screw compressors?

I had a leak on the flange on the end of the compressor where the suction valve and suction line bolts on...I took it all apart and there was no gasket behind the flange...It was just steel to steel and leaking...Trane gave us a replacement gasket set for both compressors there were like 10 parts in all...It makes no sense that there wasn't a gasket...I am figuring it was a error at the factory...
Has anyone else seen this? :eek:

[jayguy]

sounds like somebody was sleeping on the job to me.

good luck.

[chillrdude]

Years ago I pulled the condenser head on a 900 ton CVHE to check and clean the tubes, pulled the head and there was no O-ring installed, shook my head and wondered how it ran and never leaked before, but it did.

[txhvac]

sounds like somebody was sleeping on the job to me.

good luck.

Must of been one of those Friday 4:30 or Monday morning machines.

[chillerfreak]

I was wondering where that extra gasket was supposed to go!

Signed "Can't wait for the weekend guy"

[maxster]

imagine being on the assembly line and all you do is gasket in and bolt it up 8 hours a day...sure they forget things like that,and their not all happy campers where ever they make those compressors.just cover yourself with pix and calls right back to the Trane sales as soon as you find something like that...especially on the freon end.if that unit isn't new how did it hit the job, and started up .did it come in charged up,slightly positive...how did they pull a VAC on it at the factory????i had a 75 ton Trane rooftop get rigged on a weekend,i get there on Monday and both circuits are flat ...pull VACs on both circuits and did 250 Mics?

[chillerfreak]

I believe that chiller is assembled in Pueblo Colorado....Last I heard they would hire workers from a temp agency when they got busy. Pueblo used to have lot's of problems getting the right charge in the RTAA's...

[supertek65]

Years ago I pulled the condenser head on a 900 ton CVHE to check and clean the tubes, pulled the head and there was no O-ring installed, shook my head and wondered how it ran and never leaked before, but it did.
seen the same on a cvhe 025 oil tank

[supertek65]

sounds like somebody was sleeping on the job to me.

good luck.


jayguy,
don't know if we agree about stuff or not, but I love your avatar!
love the johnny bravo when he is in the land of the amazon women!

[jayguy]

jayguy,
don't know if we agree about stuff or not, but I love your avatar!
love the johnny bravo when he is in the land of the amazon women!

HOO HAA! I'M SO PRETTY!!

[supertek65]

HOO HAA! I'M SO PRETTY!!

YOUR LEGS ARE SHORT

[cooolguy]

hmm....it happens....i have got about 20 of those under contract haven't found a leak on the suction line valve as of yet....

[ga1279]

I attended many classes in Pueblo, CO on RTAA,RTHA,RTHB,RTWA,RTHC......
of course part of ALL these classes is the GRAND TOUR of the plant were these gems are built. That in itself is a learning experience ! Like the guy with the headphones on and rocken away while trying to braze,solder weld the twin discharge lines to a commen pipe on a 400 ton RTAA that was slated for a Houston delivery, the glue was all over the pipe not the joint. I took the liberty of doing the job myself as I figured at least here I would have plenty of room to work. I actually did end up doing a start-up on the machine for the Humble School District. Than did you ever wonder were some of that strange stuff got inside the machines ? Found a assembly line worker installing els and valves on a machine and all the els had debris of various types and the whole bunch looked like the had been sitting open for several months. Many of the same stories from La Cross, especially during a strike.

ga1279

[supertek65]

I attended many classes in Pueblo, CO on RTAA,RTHA,RTHB,RTWA,RTHC......
of course part of ALL these classes is the GRAND TOUR of the plant were these gems are built. That in itself is a learning experience ! Like the guy with the headphones on and rocken away while trying to braze,solder weld the twin discharge lines to a commen pipe on a 400 ton RTAA that was slated for a Houston delivery, the glue was all over the pipe not the joint. I took the liberty of doing the job myself as I figured at least here I would have plenty of room to work. I actually did end up doing a start-up on the machine for the Humble School District. Than did you ever wonder were some of that strange stuff got inside the machines ? Found a assembly line worker installing els and valves on a machine and all the els had debris of various types and the whole bunch looked like the had been sitting open for several months. Many of the same stories from La Cross, especially during a strike.

ga1279

I am going for the first time next week , will let you know!

[NYChvacTech]

Had a few leaking on start up. Not missing any rings tho. Just improper torquing. Hey, it's job security. The mis-charging was a defective charging station. They fixed it. They are pretty good about stuff like that. At least it's not like the carrier screw which became obsolete after what 5 yrs.

[stickerhead]

Friday built machine. I went to the plant in 1993. They were building the RTHA and just started building RTAA. All I remember was their refrigerant tank blowing the relief valve and we evacuated the building and they were proud to be non-union. Supprised the leak was not on the twin pipe fitting at the oil seperator.

[sheetmetal4ever]

I love the job security line, if you are competent, that sentence should never ever have to come out of your mouth, there has to be some paranoia there if you have to say that, maybe due to some marijauna use. I knew an incompetent person once, has a hard time keeping a job. Maybe this person would be suited best at the plant where they forget to install the gaskets. Sounds good to me. Oh....and.....:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:: eek: I guess i like that one, ha ha!!

[chillerfreak]

Job Security means Incompetance????

Anyone who has ever worked for an OEM has probably said that.....It's true that all units will have issues...It is our job to fix those problems before they become an issue for the customer. If these units didn't have problems or worse yet never broke down all us service guys would have to switch over to construction...

I haven't been to Pueblo but I heard they were so proud not to be union that they hung a big banner up in the front of the plant so everyone knew it!

Real Trane products are built in Lacrosse!

[Manu1]

Job Security means Incompetance????

Anyone who has ever worked for an OEM has probably said that.....It's true that all units will have issues...It is our job to fix those problems before they become an issue for the customer. If these units didn't have problems or worse yet never broke down all us service guys would have to switch over to construction...

I haven't been to Pueblo but I heard they were so proud not to be union that they hung a big banner up in the front of the plant so everyone knew it!

Real Trane products are built in Lacrosse!

Pueblo produces lot more products than La Crosse, produces more money and the cost of warranty expense is also lower than LaCrosse built units the truth is Pueblo has been looked as the young brother but that brother is now bigger than the older brother!! For me real Trane products are built on every single Trane plant around the world!! :cool:

[ga1279]

To all of you who posted on this question, I don't think it should make any difference if it's La Cross, Pueblo, Tyler or Clarksville. Mistakes will happen no matter who the vender is Trane, Carrier, York or McQuay it's how that gruop reacts when told about them. Most feel only THEIR factory techs have the ability to tell them about such errors. While all of us independents couldn't get a contact with the factory rep if our life depended on it. If we do get lucky enough to talk to one we get the now famous "I haven't heard anyone else calling about that, you must have the only one" As far as union and non-union, I had to take apart a brand new CVHE a couple of years ago because of internal clearance problems. I was in the process of doing a start-up. When we pulled the sections apart each one had a message concerning the on going strike some were quite vulgar. The chief engineer had left for the day, so I took pictures and then used my buffer to remove them. Sent the pictures to La Cross and never heard back from anyone.
ga1279

[supertek65]

To all of you who posted on this question, I don't think it should make any difference if it's La Cross, Pueblo, Tyler or Clarksville. Mistakes will happen no matter who the vender is Trane, Carrier, York or McQuay it's how that gruop reacts when told about them. Most feel only THEIR factory techs have the ability to tell them about such errors. While all of us independents couldn't get a contact with the factory rep if our life depended on it. If we do get lucky enough to talk to one we get the now famous "I haven't heard anyone else calling about that, you must have the only one" As far as union and non-union, I had to take apart a brand new CVHE a couple of years ago because of internal clearance problems. I was in the process of doing a start-up. When we pulled the sections apart each one had a message concerning the on going strike some were quite vulgar. The chief engineer had left for the day, so I took pictures and then used my buffer to remove them. Sent the pictures to La Cross and never heard back from anyone.
ga1279

THAT TOTALLY SUCKS.
STORIES LIKE THAT MAKE ME PUKE:mad:

[jayguy]

If we do get lucky enough to talk to one we get the now famous "I haven't heard anyone else calling about that, you must have the only one"


many times, only the good techs are the ones to call in. you typically have all of the service bulletins (and know them), you care about how the machines work, etc. so you do end up being the first ones to call in.

good luck.