Check out this Meter

[icehouse]

HVAC Multimeter

Introducing the new
Victor VC88E DMM



Technical Data for the Victor VC88E Multimeter

Ranges and Accuracy

FUNCTION
RANGE
ACCURACY

DC Voltage
400mV/4V/40V/400V/1000V
+/- 0.5%

AC Voltage
400mV/4V/40V/400V/750V
+/- 0.8%

DC Amps
400µA/4mA/40mA/400mA/20A
+/- 1.0%

AC Amps
400µA/4mA/40mA/400mA/20A
+/- 1.5%

Resistance
400O/4kO /40kO/400kO/4MO/40MO
+/- 0.8%

Capacitance
4nF/40nF/400nF/40µF/400µF
+/- 2.5%

Frequency
100Hz/1000Hz/10KHz/100KHz/1MHz/10MHz
+/- 0.5%

Celsius Temperature
140°C-1000°C
+/- 0.8%

Fahrenheit Temperature
0°F-1832°F
+/- 0.8%


True RMS average value response.

Additional Functions:

Diode Test
Continuity Buzzer

Low Battery Indicator
Relative Value Measurement

Max./Min. Value Selection
Duty Cycle Measurement

Data Hold Function
Auto Power Off

Function Protection
Auto Range Operation

Shock Proof Protection
Auto Protection Feature




Input Impedance
10MO

Sampling Rate
3 times per second

AC Frequency Response
40-400 Hz

Maximum Display
3999

LCD Size
2.5” x 1.75”

Battery
3V (1.5V x 2 'AA')

Meter Size
7.4” x 3.8” x 1.4”


A full featured digital multimeter for the HVAC technician with all the accessories included and at no extra charge. This meter comes complete with carry case, test leads, alligator clips, thermocouple adapter and a flame safeguard adapter for measurements on gas, oil and gas/oil burners. This is truly the HVAC technician’s master meter and reads in degrees C and degrees F. In addition, it reads ambient temperature with no probe attached.

We have searched all over for a meter of this quality with all these features and have seen prices as high as $235.00 for a comparable package. Don’t be fooled by our inexpensive pricing, this is the ’real deal.’



Read the operating manual by clicking here.
One year warranty and final assembly in the US with Duracell® batteries.
Meter and accessories have various countries of origin.

From Firedragon at an excellent price



God Bless America!

[Timber]

Never heard of that brand...

[icehouse]

Custom made for FIREDRAGON. Recommended by Myself and Professor Eugene Silberstien :):) and less then $100

[DPSwitch]

link to info?

[icehouse]

link to info?
here it is http://www.firedragonent.com/Tool_box.htm

[coordinatesales]

I found it here. (http://www.firedragonent.com/88E.htm)

One of my early HVAC instructors told us to never buy a meter for under $80. Above that and we had a chance to get a good meter, below that and we were likely buying junk. This one comes in at $70. Usually the accuracy of the junk ones is questionable (I have an old craftsman that can be off 3-4 degrees and still within its specifications) but the numbers posted above beat some pretty good meters out there.

Icehouse, do you own of these? How does it stand up to use/abuse?

[icehouse]

I found it here. (http://www.firedragonent.com/88E.htm)

One of my early HVAC instructors told us to never buy a meter for under $80. Above that and we had a chance to get a good meter, below that and we were likely buying junk. This one comes in at $70. Usually the accuracy of the junk ones is questionable (I have an old craftsman that can be off 3-4 degrees and still within its specifications) but the numbers posted above beat some pretty good meters out there.

Icehouse, do you own of these? How does it stand up to use/abuse?
Use it when teaching. Can't get more abuse then that.

[royc]

I found it here. (http://www.firedragonent.com/88E.htm)

One of my early HVAC instructors told us to never buy a meter for under $80. Above that and we had a chance to get a good meter, below that and we were likely buying junk. This one comes in at $70. Usually the accuracy of the junk ones is questionable (I have an old craftsman that can be off 3-4 degrees and still within its specifications) but the numbers posted above beat some pretty good meters out there.

Icehouse, do you own of these? How does it stand up to use/abuse?

I'm sorry but I differ with that statement. For basic troubleshooting I use a cheap UEI anolog meter. First of all when troubleshooting all I want to know "do I have voltage", an anolog meter is faster to read by just looking at the swing, whether thats high or low voltage. I dont have to tell anyone some of the awkard places we work in. Most didgital meters a hard to read unless one looks directly at them, also many are a bit slow at final reading and one has to look close to see voltage.

If I have a need to get exact voltages I go get my Fieldpiece meter pouch with all the accessories. Most of my UEI anolog meters have lasted for years, and if they go bad, I buy another one, they are cheap enough. If my memory serves me right, I may have bough three of those in the last 30 years.

You get so used to looking where the meter swings, that just a glance is needed to know you got it.

Roy

[mark beiser]

Looks nice, inexpensive meters scare me though.

[hvacrjones]

UL listing?
Cat 3?4?
auto ranging?
TRMS?

[icehouse]

UL listing?
Cat 3?4?
auto ranging?
TRMS?
YES TO ALL THE ABOVE

[Kelly T]

Looks nice, inexpensive meters scare me though.

they scare me too, I'm a fluke man myself however I do carry a couple of cheap meters as back ups or as the other person mention for trouble shooting. Will look into this meter though it has gotten my attention:D

[dfwdiesel]

Those are some incredible specs. It appears difficult to loose at $70.00
Jack

[slimwoodie]

well, ya need a cheapy to leave in the truck ..

i don't leave my $3500 fluke scope meter out of my sight, also ..
i don't always carry it ..

so there's a market for a decent cheap meter ...

[bobb25]

Custom made for FIREDRAGON. Recommended by Myself and Professor Eugene Silberstien :):) and less then $100Looks like a nice meter for $70. I especially like the temperature reading with no probe. I'd just rather be able to wrap wires around a clamp-on if I need to. The manual says to connect the leads in series for an amp check.

[lilquiz]

YES TO ALL THE ABOVE

Funny how it states CAT 2 on the meter and the manual states only a CE testing which is a Canadian electical testing rating. If i had the choice i would just use my fingers and not this Timebomb. Sorry JMHO

[DPSwitch]

Lets have an essay contest so we can win one and check it out.

[hvacrjones]

when I can get a UEI or an amprobe for 30 bucks more and they will do all this in a smaller package have support behind there product and have a amp clamp built in I just cant find any reson look any more at this meter

Good luck

[weber]

when I can get a UEI or an amprobe for 30 bucks more and they will do all this in a smaller package have support behind there product and have a amp clamp built in I just cant find any reson look any more at this meter

Good luck

Then you just wasted 30 bucks more on a different piece of crap meter. Invest wisely in your tools.

[ch4man]

once again another meter that wont accept a standard miniplug for the k-type thermocouple to do temerature measurments;
but for $70 would work as a back up

[rscamaro]

YES TO ALL THE ABOVE

A CAT II rating isn't good enough for just about any of the equipment I work on, in fact I'm not even allowed to have them on the truck according to our safety rules.

(exerp from the fluke web site)(http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/electricalpower/1263690.pdf)

• Appliance, portable tools, and other household and similar
loads.
• Outlet and long branch circuits.
• Outlets at more than 10 meters (30 feet) from CAT III source.
• Outlets at more that 20 meters (60 feet) from CAT IV source

..Ron

[Airmechanical]

that biatch dont even have an amp clamp,

and i hate a meter that you have to change the leads on for different measurements



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[icehouse]

:rolleyes: You remind me of one of my former students that called at 10:PM on a Saturday evening having a problem with a unit. I asked "What's the Amperage" ? he said he dropped his meter in the sink. I said to go to your truck and get your other meter, and he said " I only had one meter. Very smart I said.

[cmajerus]

Then you just wasted 30 bucks more on a different piece of crap meter. Invest wisely in your tools.

I have 3 UEI meters, oldest one is 12yrs old, works perfectly, the other 2 are each pushing 6yrs old. not gonna buy a Fluke when my UEI's do the job, I hated the fieldpiece one of our guys bought. It lasted him a few weeks.

[bobb25]

I have 3 UEI meters, oldest one is 12yrs old, works perfectly, the other 2 are each pushing 6yrs old. not gonna buy a Fluke when my UEI's do the job, I hated the fieldpiece one of our guys bought. It lasted him a few weeks.I have 2 UEI meters and a couple of other brands. I've had the UEI 250 clamp on multi-meter on the truck for 7 years with no problems.

[hvacrjones]

I have one UEI and 2 Flukes the flukes haven't left the truck sense I bought the UEI. And the UEI dose accept a K-type without any stupid adaptors.;)

[bobb25]

Besides meters, I have several other things by UEI. I just don't understand the bad mouthing some people give them. Never had a problem with them.

[icehouse]

I have one UEI and 2 Flukes the flukes haven't left the truck sense I bought the UEI. And the UEI dose accept a K-type without any stupid adaptors.;) You must have the DM383, the DL289 has an adapter which th eK- probe plugs into:(

[HVAC2B]

I have one UEI and 2 Flukes the flukes haven't left the truck sense I bought the UEI. And the UEI dose accept a K-type without any stupid adaptors.;)

I HAVE A FEILDPEICE AND UEI,WHICH SEES THE MOST ACTION I USE THE UEI FOR THE NCV,AS WELL AS GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING AND THE FEILDPEICE FOR CHECKING TEMPS, IT ALSO HAS A MAG. CLIP THAT I LIKE:)

[Airmechanical]

one of my former students that called at 10:PM on a Saturday evening having a problem with a unit. I asked "What's the Amperage" ? he said he dropped his meter in the sink.----------------------- I said to go to your truck and get your other meter



you probably should of asked WTF was his meter doing above the sink:confused:



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[weber]

you probably should of asked WTF was his meter doing above the sink:confused:



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:DThats what I was thinking!!!!

[jmac00]

you probably should of asked WTF was his meter doing above the sink:confused:




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it wasn't above the sink, it got dirty and he was washing it:D:D:D

I noticed the price was 70 bucks, which includes PRIORITY USPS MAIL, which means the meter is actually about 64 bucks or less??????

[icehouse]

you probably should of asked WTF was his meter doing above the sink:confused:



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His claim, "freezer was next to sink. Go figure :p

[Kelly T]

you probably should of asked WTF was his meter doing above the sink:confused:



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about 15 years ago the owner of the company I worked at called me frantically asking to borrow one of my meters, I asked where his was since I knew he had 2, he bashfully explained to me that he was working on 3 units and had left his meters laying on top of the condensor fans so when he got the unit running the fan ate his leads and threw his meters accross the concrete roof :eek:

[JumpSteady]

I bought a used fluke 12 from my friend that upgraded about 10 years ago. It remains the meter I use today 99% of the time. I also keep a cheap clamp meter, a fluke 16 with a temperature pipe clamp, and a craftsman meter (for loaning out) in the truck.

Fluke 12 doesn't do temperature or microamps, but I have the 16 for that. 12 is so simple to use, and so *fast when I try to use another meter or someone elses "better" one, I'm always like ah! I need my good meter. I have no plans to replace it unless it breaks then with another fluke 12. When you know your meter so well, it becomes an extension of yourself. I think the most important thing when it comes to meters is, whatever you have *know how to use the thing.