Where are the jobs ?

[pat461]

I would like to hear from the big union guys and the people running outfits , with a recession looking more and more likley , what is the forecast for the industry.

I don't want to have a union - management fight I was just trying to get a feel for where the industry is heading .

[d_griff]

I would like to hear from the big union guys and the people running outfits , with a recession looking more and more likley , what is the forecast for the industry.

I don't want to have a union - management fight I was just trying to get a feel for where the industry is heading .

I am seeing the trickle down effect, Last week the "in house" guy at one of my accounts put a heat exchanger in a RTU. And this guy never works or was not even really sure how to do it, When i asked him why he was doing it, He said they just dont have the money right now for us to fix it

[MichaelPaladin]

Well even in the winter time people still need heat. Its either get it fixed or go with out. But the company I work for, we've been seeing more than our share of plumbing calls. We also have been pretty steady on the work, so I think it really has to do with the area more than anything.

[timebuilder]

I am seeing the trickle down effect, Last week the "in house" guy at one of my accounts put a heat exchanger in a RTU. And this guy never works or was not even really sure how to do it, When i asked him why he was doing it, He said they just dont have the money right now for us to fix it


Now this time, I agree with you.

One of our national account brokers just told us that they will begin using one of their own guys in the field to do PM's. Of course, he may not know how to proactively identify problems, allowing for failures in the height of the season, and costing more money to repair.

Remember, the guy that approves repairs gets a bonus if he spends less than a certain amount, and that value is sure to be lowered as companies tighten their belts in fear of a possible tax-and-spend President in '08, who wants to make us all wait in line for medical treatment, because it is "fair."

Also remember that companies are the certain targets of people who want to punish "big business," which will lead to fewer jobs.

We won't know the full extent of what will happen for a year.

[neophytes serendipity]

I would like to hear from the big union guys and the people running outfits , with a recession looking more and more likley , what is the forecast for the industry.

I don't want to have a union - management fight I was just trying to get a feel for where the industry is heading .

I know guys that have been out of work for several months.

I also know guys on the other end of the spectrum that are working OT.

The number of guys that are "out of work" isn't getting smaller, though... yet apprentice applications are being taken.

Obviously, people still need heat, and in a couple of months, cooling. Probably going to see more band aid fixes versus replacements.

Proposed work funded and approved with government money will happen. Commercial and residential work funded by those with money will still happen.

There is just going to be less of it.

Union ranks that have grown to meet labor demand during the boom years means that there are now too many members available to do the volume of work out there now.

That's the forecast.

[Dowadudda]

were seeing it. I am in MI. Of course here, we have been in a 1 state recession for several years now. Unemployment here is in the high 7 percentile. I also heard a statistic recently, that 1 in 3 people are on food stamps. Many children on medicaid, of once affluent working couples, now who have lost their jobs, and scramble to find coverage for their kids.

Pretty Wild here. Lots and Lots of Foreclosures. I go into industrial parks which a few years ago were vibrant, industrious places with every parking lot of every building full of workers going to work. Now, literally ghost towns.

And that is all over the state.

You go by idled plants. Huge places. Mile long by mile wide, just huge huge places, with parking lots like football stadiums, standing quiet. Eery Looking.

Some are doing well still despite the problems. But now, as it prolongs there even starting to see it. I suspect if the country sinks into a reccesion, MI will be even more devastated than it is today. And even longer to recover.

My company, very entrenched in the supermarket business, has seen some ups and downs. Were trying to adapt, but the minute we think we have a plan to go ahead with, more bad news occurs. It's just a "hang till it blows" sort of mentality.

[Wheelbaron]

We all have to adjust our lifestyles some. I heard some one on talk radio the other day talking about the rush to get the biggest and best HDTV for the big game???? WTF? Forget about the credit debt, we need a bigger TV so we can sit around and eat too much and drink too much.

I say that if you can do it get into the loan shark biz right about now, cause we are headed for some rough financial. I plan on putting in a large garden next spring. Food prices will be climbing.

I think that the commercial stuff will be more steady than the residential. And this site will get more and more DIY trying to save a buck.

[d_griff]

We all have to adjust our lifestyles some. I heard some one on talk radio the other day talking about the rush to get the biggest and best HDTV for the big game???? WTF? Forget about the credit debt, we need a bigger TV so we can sit around and eat too much and drink too much.

I say that if you can do it get into the loan shark biz right about now, cause we are headed for some rough financial. I plan on putting in a large garden next spring. Food prices will be climbing.

I think that the commercial stuff will be more steady than the residential. And this site will get more and more DIY trying to save a buck.

So running out and getting 2 50" plasma tv's was a bad idea??? :confused::eek::D

[fitter33]

Get into Supermarket Refrigeration and you won't have a worry about it.

[tinner73]

the 597 fitters we're telling me they have so much work on the books they're not sure they can man it all this summer. not to sure about the tinners.:rolleyes:

[nwfl29]

I wanted to chime in on this one a bit. I'm a service tech but not in HVAC. That said I would think supermarkets are not going to pinch a penny by letting the perishables go bad. Sounds like a good area to be in regardless of the economy.

Man, you guys are telling me that buying two 50" HDTV's was a bad move? I bought one for every room in the house on a store credit card at 25% APR. Seemed like a good deal and no one told me the economy was about the take a dump. LOL.

To the original post, my opinion is it depends on where you are at and level of experience you have. In the south, where I am at, there a good number of jobs but most want experience. So, in my opinion if you are looking to make a job change this could be a bad time. Or you don't have much experience and are trying to break into the field then it may be difficult.

[supertek65]

I wanted to chime in on this one a bit. I'm a service tech but not in HVAC. That said I would think supermarkets are not going to pinch a penny by letting the perishables go bad. Sounds like a good area to be in regardless of the economy.

Man, you guys are telling me that buying two 50" HDTV's was a bad move? I bought one for every room in the house on a store credit card at 25% APR. Seemed like a good deal and no one told me the economy was about the take a dump. LOL.

To the original post, my opinion is it depends on where you are at and level of experience you have. In the south, where I am at, there a good number of jobs but most want experience. So, in my opinion if you are looking to make a job change this could be a bad time. Or you don't have much experience and are trying to break into the field then it may be difficult.

we are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act but a habit.
Aristotle

[supertek65]

pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work

I like that one

[supertek65]

poor people have poor ways. that does not mean they have to make poor decisions.

me 2008

[Wheelbaron]

Sorry I was a bit out of sorts the other day:o

I just get sick of hearing about people spending way too much on crap, then loosing everything and still going out and spending like they can still afford it.