Obama's goon

[Milk man]

stepping in front of O'reilly's camera man.

Low class is what Bill called the goon, and he was right.

Is this who Obama targeting to be elected?

[RoBoTeq]

What are you typing about? I have no clue what you wrote means.

[Milk man]

Bill O'reilly went to NH. While at Obama's rally Obama's goon tried to block Bill's cameraman from taking any video of Obama.

This guy was huge. Everytime the cameraman moved to get his shot this clown would move and stand right in front of him.

So is Obama going to bully everyone that ruffles his feathers if he is president? Or has Obama's people used bad judgement in hiring someone less than professional to be a member of his staff.

Guilty of bullying or bad judgement. At any rate did not cast a good light on Obama.

[mrs reb77]

Tempest in a teapot....blown out of proportion....headline seeking...?
Probably all apply.
Found this account: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/05/politics/fromtheroad/entry3678350.shtml

Of course Bill O'reilly will have his version as well. Not really a story I would say...

[Roscoe]

I saw the Fox version, the 6'8" goon was being a dick blocking O'rielly from getting any face time with Obama. It was obvious he was doing it on purpose.

O'rielly may have over reacted a little, but point is if that were Tim Russert or Brian Williams or any of NBC's people that big guy would not have attempted to pull that crap. He would have directed Obama right to them.


Personally I think Obama, and Hillary dodge the Fox channel people because they are afraid of the questions and they don't have any answers.

The fact the Democratic candidates hide from Fox is definitely news worthy.

Obama needs to answer some tougher questions especially since he is one of the front runners.

Just My Take On It......:)

[mrs reb77]

While I certainly agree that Obama needs to start answering some tougher questions I don't think acting like paparazzi is the way to do it. I read three different articles that I found on the situation but I didn't see it live or anything. I don't think O'Reilly had an interview set up or anything--maybe he should try that? Maybe he has? I don't know. I do know that pushing and shoving to get a camera and/or question in someone's face is plain a** rude.

[classical]

While I certainly agree that Obama needs to start answering some tougher questions I don't think acting like paparazzi is the way to do it. I read three different articles that I found on the situation but I didn't see it live or anything. I don't think O'Reilly had an interview set up or anything--maybe he should try that? Maybe he has? I don't know. I do know that pushing and shoving to get a camera and/or question in someone's face is plain a** rude.

If you watch the video it is obvious that Obamas man was in the wrong. O'Reilly had the right to have his camera there the goon did not have the right to block the camera. The camera tried to move the guy moved in front of it. O'Reilly asked the guy to move he refused then O'Reilly moved him and got a little angry.

The factor is a major news program with a larger audience than any of the major networks or cable networks. Their cameras were where they should have been they were not acting like paparrazi. This was an Obama event the press was invited O'Reilly and the Factor are press. The Factor and O'Reilly attended events at most of the candidates in NH even Hillary. Hillary tried to embarass O'Reilly but failed. He was nothing but respectful had on air interviews with several candidates. He had Fred Thompson on for an interview and has been riding him hard for not coming on. He has always ridden any candidate that will not come on his program regardless of property.

O'Reilly is very different from Hannity or Rush he does not declare a party and ask hard questions of all who enter the factor. O'Bama and Hillary do not want to face him because they would have to answer hard questions. The Bush administration has been very hesitant about going on the factor but they are glad to attend Hannity.

O'Reilly leans toward conservative but also has some liberal tendancies but he makes anyone that appears in front of him answer hard questions makes them sweat.

I have respect for anyone that will sit down in front of him. Chris Dodd did and he was shown to be a fool, John Edwards did last election and was embarrassed I doubt he will return.

[mrs reb77]

Ok, you intrigued me so I had to watch it. Now, exactly WHY does Mr. O'R have the RIGHT to act like that? By the way, I watched it at billoreilly.com so I know I saw the "real" footage. I still say it was rude a** and uncalled for.
But, you got the right to your opinion, no matter how far off it is. :D

[Roscoe]

Ok, you intrigued me so I had to watch it. Now, exactly WHY does Mr. O'R have the RIGHT to act like that? By the way, I watched it at billoreilly.com so I know I saw the "real" footage. I still say it was rude a** and uncalled for.
But, you got the right to your opinion, no matter how far off it is. :D


I saw the Fox version, the 6'8" goon was being a dick blocking O'rielly from getting any face time with Obama. It was obvious he was doing it on purpose.

O'rielly may have over reacted a little, but point is if that were Tim Russert or Brian Williams or any of NBC's people that big guy would not have attempted to pull that crap. He would have directed Obama right to them.


Personally I think Obama, and Hillary dodge the Fox channel people because they are afraid of the questions and they don't have any answers.

The fact the Democratic candidates hide from Fox is definitely news worthy.

Obama needs to answer some tougher questions especially since he is one of the front runners.

Just My Take On It......

ok mrs reb exactly what was it about this you didn't agree with.........hey you can have any warm an cozy feeling you want from the networks

I just don't trust them.......:rolleyes:

had it been Russert or Williams this big friggen idiot would never have pulled that crap..............

ok ok ok............. tell me you didn't see this big oaf move in front of the camera and try to block O'Rielly, .............now tell me he doesn't recognize Bill O'Rielly ya know he ain't no Little guy himself @ 6'5", you ever stand next to someone that tall....... even if you were 3" taller you'd notice.......... go ahead............. say it was just an honest mistake.........

[mrs reb77]

I believe this occurred at a rally as it was winding down and Obama was making his exit. I would have the exact same opinion if Tim Russert had acted in this manner. Yelling, shoving and acting like an a** lacks any kind of class. Just because Obama is a politician you feel that anyone can treat his staffers like trash? To get their picture of him or shout out questions to him that he may not even hear or be able to respond to?
This defies logic.
Did you see that staffer take the camera away? Hold up a sheet? Call security to haul them off? Shove O'Reilly back? Um, no, I didn't either. I saw O'Reilly being a typical, I can do what I want a**.
I'd feel exactly the same way if this happened at a Huckabee, Thompson, Romney etc. rally by the way. Why didn't Mr. O'Reilly say "hey, fella, you think I can see Barack? I'd like to invite him to the show." ???? No, he became immediately confrontational.

[Roscoe]

I believe this occurred at a rally as it was winding down and Obama was making his exit. I would have the exact same opinion if Tim Russert had acted in this manner. Yelling, shoving and acting like an a** lacks any kind of class. Just because Obama is a politician you feel that anyone can treat his staffers like trash? To get their picture of him or shout out questions to him that he may not even hear or be able to respond to?
This defies logic.
Did you see that staffer take the camera away? Hold up a sheet? Call security to haul them off? Shove O'Reilly back? Um, no, I didn't either. I saw O'Reilly being a typical, I can do what I want a**.
I'd feel exactly the same way if this happened at a Huckabee, Thompson, Romney etc. rally by the way. Why didn't Mr. O'Reilly say "hey, fella, you think I can see Barack? I'd like to invite him to the show." ???? No, he became immediately confrontational.

NAH nice try it don't work for me try again........I'll say it again THIS TIME READ IT........ IF RUSSERT OR WILLIAMS WERE TO BE STANDING IN THE FRIGGEN LINE WOULD THIS 6'8' BOZO HAVE BLOCKED THE SHOT. Tell me the big oaf did not recognize O'Rielly.........okokokok Put Barbra Walters in there ......instead of O'Rielly ........ Doe's the big oaf .....Not recognizer her little person and the camera crew.............. AND.. Block her shot....this is ..Barbra Walters we are talking about now......does he not recognizer her and then does he purposely stand in front of her camera and cut her off... I don't think so................ nice try to spin but it didn't work .................reb

[Milk man]

What was uncalled for was the goon moving to block the Factor's camera. It's obvious what happened.

I find myself being rude to people that are rude to me.

[Roscoe]

You need to look at that video again ........... and answer me honestly did that big person purposly stand as to block the camera and Bill O'Riellyor not and I don't really care if you are a Obama supporter just answer honestly..........

By the way this action by Obama's body guard or whatever he is has no reflection on senator Obama I think he just wants to dodge the Fox people.

LOOK AT IT

[classical]

Roscoe your right it does not reflect poorly on Obama in fact he an O'Reilly spoke after the altercation they were friendly but Obama still ducked appearing on the factor.

It is obvious that the Obama worker was intentionally blocking the camera. It was low class and stupid what did he think it would accomplish.

O'Reilly did not denigrate Obama he said he was a gentleman and placed all blame for the confrontation on theworker.

[Milk man]

You need to look at that video again ........... and answer me honestly did that big person purposly stand as to block the camera and Bill O'Riellyor not and I don't really care if you are a Obama supporter just answer honestly..........

By the way this action by Obama's body guard or whatever he is has no reflection on senator Obama I think he just wants to dodge the Fox people.

LOOK AT IT

But it does. In the article the goon is call Obama's trip director. Obama's campaign, Obama is the boss. What HIS CHOSEN people do directly reflects on Obama.

If I was "the man" and someone on my staff did that, they would quickly be looking for a job.

[Roscoe]

Yeah you know that and I know that I just don't understand how mrs doesn't see it........Question for ya classical.......... do you think it was a strategical move by Obamas campaign people...?.......I do and I think they screwed up and put a mooron out there to guard Obama and put that big dumb oaf right in front of anyone who was going to ask hard questions hence O'Rielly. ......Baba...WaWA..:D.... Walters or Tim Russert OR What's his name....ah "I look good On National syndicated television" and I make 15mil a year as a news reader Wilson don't I look good folks????????.

This election bull**** it is all about how the candidate looks.and how much money they have.....because the general public can't think past, I wanna be a celebrity, and I don't care who or what I have to do to get the prize...:(

We are in a world of hurt people I don't give a shee.it* who wins.................

[Roscoe]

But it does. In the article the goon is call Obama's trip director. Obama's campaign, Obama is the boss. What HIS CHOSEN people do directly reflects on Obama.

If I was "the man" and someone on my staff did that, they would quickly be looking for a job.

yep And .............we as HVACR technicians and business owners are directly responsible for how that piece of equipment functions.

Obama needs to come out and apologize for his staff's eff up or he and his staff will eat it.........

[classical]

Roscoe Obama is a very smart man and I doubt that he or his upper level campaign people would make such a decision. I feel that this was just a case of a single overzealous person that thought due to his size he would not be challenged.

Will it hurt Obama in the long run probably not I do agree with Mrs. Reb that it is a tempest in a teapot. Only because the only people that are offended are people that would never vote for Obama.

I think any candidate that doesn't spend some face time with O'Reilly is missing an opportunity to speak to people they would never reach otherwise. The question is can they perform well against his style of in your face no bull**** allowed interview.

O'Reilly for the most part is fair with guest but he will not let them filibuster or skew the conversation to where they want it to go.

O'Reilly has never said anything overtly derogative about any of the candidates on either side. He has called them out for making stupid decisions and has said he thinks Hillary will win the Democrat nomination.

Personally I think it very possible Obama may be our next president and in fact be the next JFK. JFK won because he enticed the young voters to come out and used a new medium TV. Obama is getting out the new young vote and enticing out voters that have not voted in the past. He is also using the internet (facebook, youtube and myspace) like no other.

The comparison to JFK could go much further he could easily be the next president assassinated regardless he will not accomplish much because he is too green. JFK did not do much as president other than The Bay of Pigs, The Cuban Crisis and be killed. The things he was remembered for were actually accomplished by LBJ.

[mrs reb77]

I will overlook the fact you called me "web" as a probable typo. :rolleyes:
I am in no way shape or form an Obama supporter. What I am is a polite, respectful person. Mr. O'Reilly is not.
He was outside the 'fence' 'rope' whatever, he was rude, he pushed the "goon" staffer of Mr. Obama's. Where anyone can think that is right is beyond me regardless of the pusher or the pushee.
If it were Geraldo Rivera I can see y'all having a different tune.
I watched that video way too many times (once was enough to hear Mr. O'Reilly's tone!) and I didn't really want to watch it in the first place. Know it all press people do not own the earth, the United States or the politicians. They need to get over themselves and try to act like decent human beings.

[mrs reb77]

And, another thing.
What is the big "effn" deal of getting a picture of Obama? Isn't that what the camera was for? Or video (whatever). It's not like we don't know what he looks like. We know what Bill looks like. It's not like he was in line for some kind of super scoop. Confrontational crap such as this is tabloid fodder.

Reminds me of Britney getting carted away in the ambulance. Didn't change my day any but it was all you could see on the "news".

[Roscoe]

Roscoe Obama is a very smart man and I doubt that he or his upper level campaign people would make such a decision. I feel that this was just a case of a single overzealous person that thought due to his size he would not be challenged.

Will it hurt Obama in the long run probably not I do agree with Mrs. Reb that it is a tempest in a teapot. Only because the only people that are offended are people that would never vote for Obama.

I think any candidate that doesn't spend some face time with O'Reilly is missing an opportunity to speak to people they would never reach otherwise. The question is can they perform well against his style of in your face no bull**** allowed interview.

O'Reilly for the most part is fair with guest but he will not let them filibuster or skew the conversation to where they want it to go.

O'Reilly has never said anything overtly derogative about any of the candidates on either side. He has called them out for making stupid decisions and has said he thinks Hillary will win the Democrat nomination.

Personally I think it very possible Obama may be our next president and in fact be the next JFK. JFK won because he enticed the young voters to come out and used a new medium TV. Obama is getting out the new young vote and enticing out voters that have not voted in the past. He is also using the internet (facebook, youtube and myspace) like no other.

The comparison to JFK could go much further he could easily be the next president assassinated regardless he will not accomplish much because he is too green. JFK did not do much as president other than The Bay of Pigs, The Cuban Crisis and be killed. The things he was remembered for were actually accomplished by LBJ.

I agree with everything you said classical and I mean everything....




All of it but

I believe Obama sidesteps the questions because he doesn't have the savy to deal with International Politicsand Bill will corner him or Billery on this.

I think he will be more focused on the poor, and the rich Democrats and he'll shelve the middle class...........this is where most of the skilled workers fall...

irregardless of the Union workers sheepish bahhhhhh the "Democrats are for the working class people"....... blind affiliation....and ...because all unions are democratic supporters and they are told how to vote.

They are sheep........regardless of how the American economy is....and irregardless of how world politics and economy are they are partisan.

Obama has the Kennedy charisma no doubt......I just don't think when the economic crisis hits he'll be any different than Jimmy Carter......... who was absolutely the worst president I've ever seen since Dwight D Eisenhower and will probably go down as the worst president in history with out a doubt..........

[Roscoe]

And, another thing.
What is the big "effn" deal of getting a picture of Obama? Isn't that what the camera was for? Or video (whatever). It's not like we don't know what he looks like. We know what Bill looks like. It's not like he was in line for some kind of super scoop. Confrontational crap such as this is tabloid fodder.

Reminds me of Britney getting carted away in the ambulance. Didn't change my day any but it was all you could see on the "news".



Not for nothing there web>>>>>>>>>> BUT......you missed the whole point........ disconnect you're head from your ass long enough to smell what is going on.......no disrespect meant there webber............;)

It ain't about the friggen picture...........look back and read SLOWLY what I said about Baba WaWa....Barbra Walters. or anybody hell put the fat ugly ***** here what's her name, you know the dike ahhh Rosie ___________ here you insert a national name right here........anybody......... the Democrats are afraid of having to answer any hard questions........because they have no answers..........

Ahhhhhh if Rosie were there with a camera crew would this bozo have been directed to "Block the Shot".......heh heh



I couldn't resist, this is what blogs do and the National media takes off and runs with it. What a bunch of sheep..............baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...;)

[corny]

Obammy is not going to become president so I wonder why anyone would even care if his goon stepped in front of bill oreilleys camera man.....

As for Bill.....he is an immoral sexual deviant......too bad obamas goon didnt overact and rid this world of that pervert.

McCain will probably win Roscoe......out of all dregs that are running in this election....McCain...even though he sold out his own comrades in Vietnam...is still about the best qualified for the job......

[classical]

Roscoe you are right he sidesteps because he doesn't have a clue about international politics and neither does Hillary. Hillary doesn’t answer questions because she has to see an opinion poll before she knows the answer.

Mrs. Reb I think you miss the point about the anger O’Reilly displays and I don’t think it was any different than most of us would be if some joker attempted to keep us from doing our job. His job and his crew’s job were to get footage of Obama and ask questions and if possible convince him to appear on the Factor. When you are a man (might be the same for women) and you are proud of what you do someone trying to prevent you from doing your work raises your ire. I strongly suspect that I might have reacted much as O’Reilly did given the same circumstance.

[classical]

Obammy is not going to become president so I wonder why anyone would even care if his goon stepped in front of bill oreilleys camera man.....

As for Bill.....he is an immoral sexual deviant......too bad obamas goon didnt overact and rid this world of that pervert.

McCain will probably win Roscoe......out of all dregs that are running in this election....McCain...even though he sold out his own comrades in Vietnam...is still about the best qualified for the job......

Where the hell do you get that O'Reilly is a sexual deviant lord get a life.

The best qualified for President is Duncan Hunter he just doesn't have a chance in hell because all the liberal states get first crack at deciding.

[scrogdog]

Bill's ok in my book.

However, I have to say that the man seems just a bit full of himself.

Also, you gotta love a place called the "no spin zone" - where he puts "anti-spin" on the spin that we are all spinning on about. :)

[Roscoe]

Where the hell do you get that O'Reilly is a sexual deviant lord get a life.

The best qualified for President is Duncan Hunter he just doesn't have a chance in hell because all the liberal states get first crack at deciding.


heh heh heh............ahhhhhhhhhhhhh hay classical............ahhhhhhhh corny thinks a little different than normal human beings............Nice going corn ball.....what a wacker.........sheesh.............:D




Hey webster how bout it..............commmmmmmmmonback hehe there webster........hehehe jes kidden mrs web ...but you do need to look a little further................like beyond the National crap..........ah.......... wait.......a dang minute...... do you all get this here sattilite T.V crapolla........

just busting your shoes.............look around....................:D

[bootlen]

The best qualified for President is Duncan Hunter ...

Agree! 100%. Nobody else has the experience, knowledge, and savvy that Hunter has.

[mrs reb77]

Well, let's see, how to put this.

You're wrong if you think Mr. O'Reilly had any right to demand access. He can do his job all day long but his job is not demanding access to or of anyone. It shouldn't mean being rude or shoving anyone either.

I could give a big steaming pile of ...mashed potatoes... about any of the political reporters to tell the truth. Ditto for Mr. Obama or any of the other Democrats running.

What you defenders of Bill don't understand is that IT IS NOT HIS RIGHT TO SHOVE HIS WAY INTO SOMETHING. If the staffer (ANY STAFFER) 'blocked his shot' then, tough mammary gland! Whine about it all day long, it's what he was hoping for by being so confrontational anyway.

It's obvious your mammy's didn't teach you not to argue with a female...or you're not married, one or the other....;)

Oh and Roscoe? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make about my name but, you are being impolite. It isn't necessary if you actually have a valid point to make.

g'night gents

[Roscoe]

Well, let's see, how to put this.

You're wrong if you think Mr. O'Reilly had any right to demand access. He can do his job all day long but his job is not demanding access to or of anyone. It shouldn't mean being rude or shoving anyone either.

I could give a big steaming pile of ...mashed potatoes... about any of the political reporters to tell the truth. Ditto for Mr. Obama or any of the other Democrats running.

What you defenders of Bill don't understand is that IT IS NOT HIS RIGHT TO SHOVE HIS WAY INTO SOMETHING. If the staffer (ANY STAFFER) 'blocked his shot' then, tough mammary gland! Whine about it all day long, it's what he was hoping for by being so confrontational anyway.

It's obvious your mammy's didn't teach you not to argue with a female...or you're not married, one or the other....;)

Oh and Roscoe? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make about my name but, you are being impolite. It isn't necessary if you actually have a valid point to make.

g'night gents mrs reb First

I meant no disrespect

Second I am Tired of repeating myself.........YOU ARE STILL MISSING THE POINT.........

I really don't give a flying Fack about Bill O'Rielly,,,,THIS, is not about Bill O'Rielly for christ sakes it's about your next president who could take you into a major rescission or god forbid a depression.

He or she could cower to some 3rd world fanatical Muslim regime, like Jimmy Carter( that piece of shi.it) did. hey maybe you think that peanut picken SOB did some good.
Myself I'm getting ready for the greatest country in the world for centuries to go belly up..........get ready to..... bend over grab your cheeks and kiss your ass good by..............

Now we can end this web because I don't think you get it, cause you are stuck on Dombocrat and I just don't see a good choice.......I say.....stockpile food, water, ammunition, and gold......and hunker down............good luck to you babe...............I mean mrs reb77........with all due respect.....eh ehehmmmm:rolleyes: mam........:D

Hey mrs reb77 get ready we are in some deep sh*t, I say by this time next year we will be at the top of the spiral looking down......I hope I'm wrong .......But I know it is coming, I'm listening to Obama right know.............. as I type I believe he is sincere, I just don't think he can pull it off, god help us.............

[Milk man]

O'reilly got bullied and pushed back. I find it humorous when rude people say "well you don't have to be rude" when someone doesn't put up with their stuff.

Mrs. Reb, if one of your employee's flips someone off while driving in your marked van it reflect bad on you. Whether or not you condone flipping off.

[Collin]

Well, let's see, how to put this.

You're wrong if you think Mr. O'Reilly had any right to demand access. He can do his job all day long but his job is not demanding access to or of anyone. It shouldn't mean being rude or shoving anyone either.

I could give a big steaming pile of ...mashed potatoes... about any of the political reporters to tell the truth. Ditto for Mr. Obama or any of the other Democrats running.

What you defenders of Bill don't understand is that IT IS NOT HIS RIGHT TO SHOVE HIS WAY INTO SOMETHING. If the staffer (ANY STAFFER) 'blocked his shot' then, tough mammary gland! Whine about it all day long, it's what he was hoping for by being so confrontational anyway.



I agree.

Bill O'Reilly is an arrogant ass.
Geraldo Riveira is an arrogant ass.


Both can be in your face rude, and it was pretty funny seeing Bill get so uptight about it happening to him.:D

[hvactech13]

Basically it doesn't matter what kind of jerk you are dealing with, if someone working for you is a jerk to them you also look like a jerk.

Impressions are everything, whether people admit it or not. You can have the best technical minds in the world working for you, but if they have rainbow colored mohawks, are covered in tattoos and have more piercings than 5 punk rock bands combined you won't have an HVAC business. Why?? The impression they give.

If you are the leader of a country (or hoping to be one) does it not look bad having brutish idiots working for you? That is going to go over really good when engaged in peace talks or trying to keep tensions down with someone who is looking for an excuse to start a fight (Iran, Korea, etc).

[mrs reb77]

I get it now. Obama needs to fire his staffer because someone (Bill O) behind the fence got irate about not being able to get his video footage of the candidate answering his screamed question if said candidate could even hear or understand aforementioned screamed question. Well, why didn't you say so! Of course Senator Obama needs to fire this staff member. What the heck is he thinking having employees that actually do their job. It's outrageous. Why, this fellow should have picked up the camera man and lifted him above the other people in the area so that the 'Factor's' shot would 'not be blocked'. Specifically since they were so polite and gracious about asking for the opportunity.

Heck, they need to make sure the secret service follows the same guidelines as well since they became involved.
Interesting that it took so long for the footage to be posted on the O'Reilly website. Guess technology still isn't 'instant', especially since Mr. O'Reilly originally reported that he didn't touch the staffer in question.

Provoking people into a response in order to create an incident.
Iran anyone?

[Roscoe]

Ok ok ok simple yes or no answer

Do you think the big staffer would stand in front of Tim Russert and his crew

yes or no

[mrs reb77]

No.

That wasn't my point there Roscoe. What 'right' did O'Reilly have to demand 'the shot'? Demand. And, his so important question? Asking B.O. to come on his show. Do it thru regular channels, when he refuses, then publish that. Should B.O. go on every show he can? Probably. Will he? No. Will all the candidates? No. You obviously don't know my political leanings. Anyone that does would know I am in no way defending B.O. or his staffs actions. BOR was wrong as a person. That's all.
Don't give me that ACLU crap either. Now BOR is calling it his defense of the constitution. Yeah, yelling, name calling and shoving. That doesn't tread on anyone else's constitutional rights.
They were outside the safety fence/'rope', it is a barrier erected for reasons.

[Roscoe]

[QUOTE=mrs reb77;1723508]No.

thank you


I don't want to hear the rest. I'm not interested how you feel about Bill O'Rielly just like you probably don't want to hear what I think of Brian Willams, Tim Russert, and NBC

The answer is NO........... I'm right you're wrong thanks, now we can drop it.....:rolleyes:

[mrs reb77]

Well, I'm glad that here in free America you can give me an opinion.
Fortunately us sane logical folks know the truth.

And we can get to that truth without name calling or physical violence etc.

Fortunately most of the chafe will be weeded out after Super Tuesday and the real debate over the candidates and their issues can begin instead of ridiculous media stunts.

[Roscoe]

Sane ..logical........ ahhh I ain't touching that......heh heh

Screw the debating we haven't figured out who is who, what they know and are all about yet.

And don't tell me you know.

I don't believe any of these a holes yet...they're politicians for christ sake.

After that episode I wouldn't trust Obama, he needs to square that crap up........;)

[mrs reb77]

You can't trust any of them, they are Politicians for heaven's sake! Their job isn't trust, it's only getting elected by whatever means necessary/available.

[Roscoe]

You can't trust any of them, they are Politicians for heaven's sake! Their job isn't trust, it's only getting elected by whatever means necessary/available.


HEY we definitely agree on that note............. I don't know about you but I scared she.itless for our country. I don't really like any of them. It seems we may be voting for the lesser of two evils. Heh like we haven't done that before.....

George Bush Sr. vs Jimmy Carter......... hey we got Carter, heh wasn't he a real gem......... thank god for Ron..Reagan......he ...saved our ass

[Milk man]

No.


They were outside the safety fence/'rope', it is a barrier erected for reasons.

They only crossed the barrier when they where denied the ablility to do their job.

Obama lost NJ, maybe this incident carried more weight than anyone knows.

BTW, the man wants to be president of the United States. And he and his team can not prevent a staffer from doing what this goon did.

[Roscoe]

They only crossed the barrier when they where denied the ablility to do their job.

Obama lost NJ, maybe this incident carried more weight than anyone knows.

BTW, the man wants to be president of the United States. And he and his team can not prevent a staffer from doing what this goon did.

Yeah I think that was established here, also if Hillary and Obama continue to avoid the tough questions it won't fair well for them.

But the American people are sheep if you can win on American Idol you can become the president of the most powerful country in the world. Thereby making you the most powerful person in the world......

It's freeking ridiculous...........and scary...........:(