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rschrei518
11-30-2007, 08:03 PM
I am getting NG installed and i would like NG run to appliances the Range and dryer the problem is i am on a slab and the only way to get there is through the ceiling and going through the joists. The Floor joists run in the opposite direction i have to go so the plumber will have to go through them. They all say it can be done but won't be easy and there will be a lot of couplings and 90's is it really that hard. It is pretty much a straight line so the range is on the way to the dryer. Is it really that hard to run i assume 3/4 inch pipe through the floor joists? I am not worried about the drywall that i could fix They have to go through about 8 floor joists

I would prefer they run iron pipe i know csst would be much easier but i am not sure if it is legal where i am

Any Thoughts

I had another question i am going with a Burnham PVG boiler and i never asked the plumber when they install it out the wall does the pipe stick out or is it flush like a dryer vent? I had a plumber come and he told me the pvg has a static pilot because they were having problems with the Electronic Ignition is this true?

t527ed
11-30-2007, 08:41 PM
don't know if its legal where you are cause you did not tell us............:rolleyes:



i would much rather have the csst if allowed than all the concealed joints you will need to do the job with hard pipe.:eek:

elkhvac
11-30-2007, 08:46 PM
i would much rather have the csst if allowed than all the concealed joints you will need to do the job with hard pipe.:eek:


I agree. CSST is a great product when installed properly.

cmajerus
11-30-2007, 08:58 PM
pretty sure it would not be legal to bury all those fittings in the wall either, aren't they supposed to be welded if they are? Can't remember the codes on blk pipe, I rarely run it indoors.

hvacconsultant
11-30-2007, 09:10 PM
The IFGC lists the fittings that are acceptable in concealed piping. IIRC you can have standard couplings, tees, etc but no valves or unions. That is for commercial though, I am not sure what the residential code says and, of course, I don't know what code the town this is being installed in follows either.

jetstream
11-30-2007, 10:22 PM
Possible to run the pipe on the house exterior? Paint it & if it's done neatly it'll look ok.

EdC
12-01-2007, 09:26 PM
considered Tracpipe? Available to qualified gas fitters.

rschrei518
12-01-2007, 10:25 PM
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rschrei518
12-01-2007, 10:26 PM
Area where pipe would have to run is not on outside wall so they can not get it in on outside wall. I considered tracpipe but really do prefer reg iron pipe. All plumbers i bring in tell me it is in limbo right now and if it was their house they wouldn't want to use it so i don't know what to do what do you guys think?

elkhvac
12-01-2007, 10:42 PM
The only concern that I know of is electrical bonding. When my home was built csst was not bonded. Every bit of gas line inside my home is csst. Before spring (storm season) hits mine will be bonded.

tinmantu
12-01-2007, 10:42 PM
tracpipe or gastite would be the logical way to go (sight unseen) distance has to really be considered when using it. BTU's have to be calculated and distributed properly. I wouldn't be afraid of using it if it's installed properly. Time saved on labor installation is better than savings on black pipe materials and cutting and threading.

karsthuntr
12-01-2007, 10:44 PM
Call in an HVAC contractor to run the pipe, if you can.