Bush intentionally lied to America about Tillman.

[tinknocker44]

Why does he hate our troops and why does he want to demoralize them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zutTJofJnZI

[k-fridge]

Why do you make a fool out of yourself on a daily basis?

[James 3528]

Don't understand why the moderators allow daily postings on the same subject

[tinknocker44]

The old diversion gang is here.

[jrbenny]

Don't understand why the moderators allow daily postings on the same subject
We'd have to delete nearly every thread in ARP if we targeted this style of posting. Very, very few threads are made without some copy and paste of a news article.

[tinknocker44]

We'd have to delete nearly every thread in ARP if we targeted this style of posting. Very, very few threads are made without some copy and paste of a news article.

Did you read that jane? Like the Mod said "news article". Now if they deleted the Puglys diversion posts we wouldnt have to listen to jane everyday.

If we give that sentence to Tony Snowjob and let him disect it, what the Mod said was, Tin is the best poster on this site.

Tin at the podium accepting his excellence in news articles life time achievement award.

"Thank you, thank you. I would like to thank all the half-wits, dimbulbs, morons and gullible Neoconservatives that I frequently outsmart, outclass and embarrass on a daily basis. Without you I wouldnt post my excellent news articles because the world would already be a better place and there would be no need."

Tin leaves the stage with the awards presenter- Jessica Biel- and heads back to his dressing room. She says she wants to see my "trophy".

[k-fridge]

The old diversion gang is here.

Diversion from what Tinky? Outrageous statements like this?

Why does he hate our troops and why does he want to demoralize them

What does that have to do with the Tillman investigation?

Sure...there's questions to be answered in the Tillman case, and the truth, whatever it may be, needs to come out. But there are channels to go through and trying this case in the circus of the news media is not the way to find the truth.

Demoralizing the troops??? The kind of action you just took here does far more damage than an official investigation will.

Once again you've demonstrated your partisan hatred by spewing hurtful propaganda.

How do you live with yourself?

[jrbenny]

Did you read that jane? Like the Mod said "news article".
It was a general statement. My filter blocks youtube. Don't get too excited.

[James 3528]

Did you read that jane? Like the Mod said "news article". Now if they deleted the Puglys diversion posts we wouldnt have to listen to jane everyday.

I have been around Tinker, longer than you and the Mod that replied. The fact he lets you get away with it doesn't mean anything other than you get away with it. All one has to do is pull up your posting history (100% spamming in the ARP with the same agenda)to define you and not worry about the ARP section in general as a excuse.

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/search.php?searchid=489573
20 (487 threads) pages of threads started in the ARP only

[tinknocker44]

k_fridge;1568855]Diversion from what Tinky? Outrageous statements like this?

From the truth

What does that have to do with the Tillman investigation?

Sure...there's questions to be answered in the Tillman case, and the truth, whatever it may be, needs to come out. But there are channels to go through and trying this case in the circus of the news media is not the way to find the truth.

Demoralizing the troops??? The kind of action you just took here does far more damage than an official investigation will.

Once again you've demonstrated your partisan hatred by spewing hurtful propaganda.

How do you live with yourself?

LOL you didnt even watch the video. Dumbya knew 2 days before he spoke to America and deliberately said nothing. He knew there was no enemy fire and that Tillman was killed by his own troops. Army medical personnel said that 3 bullet holes within a 2 inch radius from a M16 couldnt happen from more than 30 feet away. The chimp lied. This is worse than protesting an optional war. If the troops think they may be used as propaganda who will they be looking out for in the heat of a battle?

Good to see the "its ok if American troops die as long as the chimp doesnt look bad" club is still meeting.

I'm just gonna start calling you "fence post".

[tinknocker44]

I have been around Tinker, longer than you and the Mod that replied. The fact he lets you get away with it doesn't mean anything other than you get away with it. All one has to do is pull up your posting history (100% spamming in the ARP with the same agenda) to define you and not worry about the ARP section in general as a excuse.

Wrong. 100% "news articles".

[James 3528]

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/search.php?searchid=489573
20 (487 threads) pages of threads started in the ARP only. Spam on the same subject

Doesn't appear that you are remotely related to the HVAC biz

[James 3528]

In addition. Lusk identified you by name as doing this and to stop. You denied he did this and I showed you the link.

[jrbenny]

Well, I just went through the last 100 threads. Looks like I'd be deleting over 90 threads if we use a black and white interpretation.

[James 3528]

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=119545

[tinknocker44]

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=119545

So are you calling Jr. a liar?

[jrbenny]

Yes, I remember that thread, and I also understand the intent of the rules regarding forum spamming. If I open the forum and see 10 (pick a different number if you like) new threads all by the same person, I'll take action.

If someone puts up a couple of threads, big damn deal. You've had your share of cut and paste threads with a link as have others that use this forum.

When it comes to the spamming rule, forum members only seem to complain when the views posted don't agree with their view.

[tinknocker44]

Janes going to extremes with his diversion tactics now. I guess if you cant fight them with facts, divert.

[James 3528]

So are you calling Jr. a liar?

It's post like this and your inability to debate a subject, the facts I already posted and the avenues you take in doing it that makes you a spammer.

Jr, inability to react and the warm relationship with you when others have already responded to your spamming does not make him a liar. I never called him one and you trying to make that claim here would be reason enough to call you down on it.


You're making me look good Tinker, keep it up.;)

[tinknocker44]

Yes, I remember that thread, and I also understand the intent of the rules regarding forum spamming. If I open the forum and see 10 (pick a different number if you like) new threads all by the same person, I'll take action.

If someone puts up a couple of threads, big damn deal. You've had your share of cut and paste threads with a link as have others that use this forum.

When it comes to the spamming rule, forum members only seem to complain when the views posted don't agree with their view.


Yea, what he said jane.

[tinknocker44]

It's post like this and your inability to debate a subject, the facts I already posted and the avenues you take in doing it that makes you a spammer.

Jr, inability to react and the warm relationship with you when others have already responded to your spamming does not make him a liar. I never called him one and you trying to make that claim here would be reason enough to call you down on it.


You're making me look good Tinker, keep it up.;)

You're just mad that Snowjob said I'm the best poster here.

[chillbilly]

jrbenny
When it comes to the spamming rule, forum members only seem to complain when the views posted don't agree with their view.

Garbage. Show me a "view" amongst the spam he regurgitates daily.
There are no original views. Only articles with a derogatory by-line.

[jrbenny]

As I posted...

[James 3528]

As I posted...


You are wrong and you know it. Doesn't matter what you posted. You can blame this on the ARP you have contempt for it and me but you sitting back and reading Tin try to escalate this by saying I called you a liar is also wrong and is a the root of the problem being discussed here. No one has to read back over 100 threads here. I put it in front of you. You can see by his replies why he thinks he is right and they all came after yours.


So are you calling Jr. a liar?

[tinknocker44]

Garbage. Show me a "view" amongst the spam he regurgitates daily.
There are no original views. Only articles with a derogatory by-line.

News Articles.

[jrbenny]

Nope. I'm not wrong.

I did ignore his post because it was a stupid post by him to get under your skin. Typical childish posting that I see in this forum. Should we delete those posts, too?

I went through the forum and simply looked at the opening posts. Cut and paste. Cut and paste. I can pick the top thread starters in this forum and get the same results. Heck, I picked you and got the same results.

As I posted, the complaints come from those with opposing views.

I'm done for the day.




You are wrong and you know it. Doesn't matter what you posted. You can blame this on the ARP you have contempt for it and me but you sitting back and reading Tin try to escalate this by saying I called you a liar is also wrong and is a the root of the problem being discussed here. No one has to read back over 100 threads here. I put it in front of you. You can see by his replies why he thinks he is right and they all came after yours.

[James 3528]

Nice sugar coating. Where do complaints usually come from? This guy has absolutely nothing to do with HVAC and his status was removed for same.

I see why this place is a mess. :rolleyes:

[James 3528]

What happened to the train of thought that you were a member of the H-talk forum and came here to utilize this area because you were related to the trade?

What we have here is a HVAC (who's professional status was removed) poser that took on a HVAC related name that is a DIY protester spamming the forum with the Mods blessings.

[tinknocker44]

I am a professional Tinknocker and am Universally certified in Refrigeration and Air Conditioning.

[chillbilly]

News Articles.

We don't come here to read news articles. We can read them anywhere.
We come here to read the various opinions from the membership as well as the links they provide to support their views.
Your opinion is supposed to supercede articles written by someone else.
The link is supposed to reinforce your view and not be your view.
:rolleyes:

[k-fridge]

LOL you didnt even watch the video.

I did watch the video, just a typical commentary from a left leaning network that's designed to stir up crap and get ratings (and boy does that network need them).

Dubya knows a lot of things that he can't discuss in front of cameras that broadcast around the globe. The reason, national security for one. You conveniently forget that our enemies watch the same newscasts we do.

Anyway Tinky Winky; you're not interested in truth or in the moral of the troops, only spewing your partisan hatred. if you really did care about the troops you'd be on here posting articles about Murtha and Pelosi.

Oh I forgot, they're Democrats so they get a pass from Democratic Underground where you get your mindless propaganda.

[k-fridge]

I am a professional Tinknocker and am Universally certified in Refrigeration and Air Conditioning.

Not that I really care...but if that is true why don't you present your credentials to the membership committee and why don't you post in any other forums?

I think you're just some smelly hippie with a pony tail that probably lives off the public teat.

[RoBoTeq]

If those of us who do not buy into the Communist spewing ultra liberals on this forum, especially those who have nothing to with HVAC, would just stop commenting on the anti-President Bush and other anti-American threads, they would just be fodder for the likes of queerair and other ultra liberals to wallow in.

[RoBoTeq]

Yes, I remember that thread, and I also understand the intent of the rules regarding forum spamming. If I open the forum and see 10 (pick a different number if you like) new threads all by the same person, I'll take action.

If someone puts up a couple of threads, big damn deal. You've had your share of cut and paste threads with a link as have others that use this forum.

When it comes to the spamming rule, forum members only seem to complain when the views posted don't agree with their view.

I think it is safe to say that a non-HVAC poster who has 13 threads on the first page of ARP, and all of those threads are in one way or another commentaries against the U.S. and/or U.S. leaders is a spamming troll for a forum such as this.

As always; just my opinion. And don't give me that bullcrap that I only complain about those who I don't agree with because that is just not the truth at all. I complain about those who use this great open forum as a platform to condemn the country I live in and the leaders that Americans have voted into power. such a person is not an intellectual adversary but rather an enemy of the State in which I am a citizen of.

[James 3528]

That almost made me f**king cry and it is 100% correct and what I was feeling.
Most people can tell a chicken sandwich from chicken shet.

If this was a argument about if Coke was better than Pepsi, I could see things different. It's not and the same person every day from day one has continued the same attack.

[chillbilly]

I think it is safe to say that a non-HVAC poster who has 13 threads on the first page of ARP, and all of those threads are in one way or another commentaries against the U.S. and/or U.S. leaders is a spamming troll for a forum such as this.

As always; just my opinion. And don't give me that bullcrap that I only complain about those who I don't agree with because that is just not the truth at all. I complain about those who use this great open forum as a platform to condemn the country I live in and the leaders that Americans have voted into power. such a person is not an intellectual adversary but rather an enemy of the State in which I am a citizen of.

Thank you! To insinuate that people want him removed because he has differing views is a joke and an insult.
When you can find an original view from him that isn't an article from someone else, please let me know. :rolleyes:

I'd be perfectly content to see any threads disappear that don't include original content accompanying a link.

[tinknocker44]

Originally Posted by jrbenny
Yes, I remember that thread, and I also understand the intent of the rules regarding forum spamming. If I open the forum and see 10 (pick a different number if you like) new threads all by the same person, I'll take action.

If someone puts up a couple of threads, big damn deal. You've had your share of cut and paste threads with a link as have others that use this forum.

When it comes to the spamming rule, forum members only seem to complain when the views posted don't agree with their view.

Wiser words have not been spoken in ARP. Any Red blooded American brave enough to speak out against the obvious lies and corruption is called what the sheeple would say is anti American. If I were posting Bush propaganda here like the majority of others I would be a hero. Its all about opposing views and the Mod can see right through sniveling whiners.

[chillbilly]

You little gutter slut.
You're anything but brave and you don't speak out....you get others to speak out for you.

[tinknocker44]

You're anything but brave and you don't speak out....you get others to speak out for you.

Thats what smart people do, Mouth.

[chillbilly]

Thats what smart people do, Mouth.

Nah, that's what idiots who don't have a clue do, chump.

[James 3528]

Tinker is saying he has a useful idiot and gloating about it.

[tinknocker44]

Tinker is saying he has a useful idiot and gloating about it.

Yes I do have a useful idiot, idiot.

[James 3528]

So Tinker owns a Mod and wants us to know. :rolleyes:

[jrbenny]

Uh, ya, whatever.

You, james, have called me an idiot in this thread.

[jrbenny]

Wiser words have not been spoken in ARP. Any Red blooded American brave enough to speak out against the obvious lies and corruption is called what the sheeple would say is anti American. If I were posting Bush propaganda here like the majority of others I would be a hero. Its all about opposing views and the Mod can see right through sniveling whiners.
I personally disagree with your political views. Don't think for a second that I agree with the crap that you post.

However, I see no point in disallowing your drivel when we also allow the conservative/republican/pro-american posts to continue.


If the Site Admin decide that we should not allow non-trade posters or posts that contain liberal/democrat/anti-american views, then you will be removed.

Have a nice day.

[Admin]

No member is allowed to call any moderator of this site an idiot. If any member has a problem with the moderating staff, it comes to me. Keep it off the forum. My email is in my profile, or just click on the contact us tab at the bottom of the page.

No moderator plays favorites here. Yes, some of the long time members do get leeway/slack, but only to a point. They have been here a long time, and deserve it.

If any member does not like a certain rule, email me, and it will be discussed with the owner of the site to see about it being changed.

1. Who Is Welcome Here?

Anyone in the HVAC industry and home or building owners with HVAC/R concerns and other polite and fun people that are willing to contribute.

(This rule is under advisement to be changed so that the words “and others” is removed)

Any member that becomes belligerent, argumentative, posts smart-ass comments or requires too much attention of the moderators will lose their posting privileges.

These rules are relaxed in the "America, Religion, Politics" section but are strictly enforced in all other sections.

(Relaxed, NOT done away with)

5. Posting is a Privilege

Please note, you are a guest on a privately owned site. Posting here is a privilege that we hope you will enjoy and respect. The moderators can and will remove the posting privileges of any person who does not wish to follow the rules, or in the opinion of the moderators is a detriment to the site.

7. Do NOT fight with the Moderators

This is a busy site. ………..We do not have time to enter into a discussion with you. If you become a nuisance, you will lose your posting privileges.


Now, saying the above, I see no reason why we can not get along and get this thread back on topic..

[conky]

See what you started TinKnocker44.

Stay Gold, :)
Conky

[James 3528]

No member is allowed to call any moderator of this site an idiot. If any member has a problem with the moderating staff, it comes to me. Keep it off the forum. My email is in my profile, or just click on the contact us tab at the bottom of the page.

No moderator plays favorites here. Yes, some of the long time members do get leeway/slack, but only to a point. They have been here a long time, and deserve it.

If any member does not like a certain rule, email me, and it will be discussed with the owner of the site to see about it being changed.

1. Who Is Welcome Here?

Anyone in the HVAC industry and home or building owners with HVAC/R concerns and other polite and fun people that are willing to contribute.

(This rule is under advisement to be changed so that the words “and others” is removed)

Any member that becomes belligerent, argumentative, posts smart-ass comments or requires too much attention of the moderators will lose their posting privileges.

These rules are relaxed in the "America, Religion, Politics" section but are strictly enforced in all other sections.

(Relaxed, NOT done away with)

5. Posting is a Privilege

Please note, you are a guest on a privately owned site. Posting here is a privilege that we hope you will enjoy and respect. The moderators can and will remove the posting privileges of any person who does not wish to follow the rules, or in the opinion of the moderators is a detriment to the site.

7. Do NOT fight with the Moderators

This is a busy site. ………..We do not have time to enter into a discussion with you. If you become a nuisance, you will lose your posting privileges.


Now, saying the above, I see no reason why we can not get along and get this thread back on topic..

I never specifically called anyone a "idiot". But it's nice to see it's alright to be called one and the only thing that gets the attention of the Admin is that and not the overwhelming view expressed by "seasoned" members as well as new ones that obvious spamming is going on. It has nothing to do with a political view, if it did members would express the same feeling about the dean of anti American expression, Geer.

We have all seen the rules and the red fonts a many times. Back up and read this thread from the start. The person that started it has started a half dozen on the same subject. The person that started it does not have a single posting outside the ARP area. The same person that started it came here under a cloak that he was a HVAC person and has not a single time proven it.

If this is not a site for Do It Yourself HVAC people according to the rules then why is it a site for Do It Yourself protesters, spammers and people that launch the same tired ass attack with the blessings of the staff? This is where Jr. has it wrong. No one here does this to the extent being discussed here. Explain that with out the big and red font's. We're all human and understanding here.

Personally I grow tired of seeing these people use dead soldiers by putting words in their mouths and the only thing to back up what they front as the truth is a bias blogg that altered a news story ( proved that also) and it's okay just because they said it was news. That's not even an opposing view and doing it iver and over is indeed spam. Spam that Lusker warned this person about. (I showed that link)

Grow a set Admin, people that have served this country get a little pissed about this. It looks like the people that haven't and want to post on this site anything they want from anywhere they want no matter how many times has your blessing as long as a moderator don't get his tender feelings hurt.

[Admin]

I asked for it to be left off the site.

Who is welcome here. HVAC pros, AND other polite people.
Sounds pretty clear to me.

No where does it state that a person must post in other sections also on this website.

Maybe I did not state it plainly enough?
I do know of some behind the scenes actions being taken......
The rules, ALL OF THEM, are being re-written.

James, you are a valued member of this site, as can be seen by your volunteering your time for the membership committee, as well as your longevity on this site, but, I will in no way put up with anyone telling me to grow a set.

Again, leave it off the site. Email me if you want.

[James 3528]

I asked for it to be left off the site.

Who is welcome here. HVAC pros, AND other polite people.
Sounds pretty clear to me.

No where does it state that a person must post in other sections also on this website.

Maybe I did not state it plainly enough?
I do know of some behind the scenes actions being taken......
The rules, ALL OF THEM, are being re-written.

James, you are a valued member of this site, as can be seen by your volunteering your time for the membership committee, as well as your longevity on this site, but, I will in no way put up with anyone telling me to grow a set.

Again, leave it off the site. Email me if you want.

Well it looks like my e-mail is down....and I have no secrets.... I am what I am and frankly who you are could be a half dozen people

Okay, you have a set, I guess I was sugesting to use them . Any logical person can plainly see I made a point here that was true. I made the plain point that the other Admin saw and made a statement about spam and the person doing it and still I get the Mr. Rogers Neighborhood rules again.

If you don't want to act on it because you think it is unfair then so be it. I gave reason as to why this was not about a left or right political view. It is about over and over again bull sh!t agenda spamming and you damn well know that is a fact. If it was going on in the GD area with the same person doing it on another subject it would have ended long ago.

It's your game, the members are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusion about what was said here. If you are who I think you are, you are on record as not caring about this part of the forum anyway. I didn't expect anymore than this.

I give you George.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUX6wV1lBQ

[Admin]

You just don't know what "Keep it off the site means".

You are banned for 14 days as well as removed from the membership committee.

This thread is closed.