House votes to pull troops out after Iraq report

[tinknocker44]

Finally getting our elected officials to do what we Americans want.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19723307/

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YOU GETTING SLEEPY YET ?

[Pagan]

Finally getting our elected officials to do what we Americans want.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19723307/

then I'll be one of the Americans to stand up and say I DONT WANT THEM PULLED OUT YET!:mad:

CALLS FOR PEACE AND APPEASEMENT IN A TIME OF TERROR AND MURDER
ARE THE BECKONING"S OF COWARDICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

Those Troops Took the same oath I did :

"I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." they knew the day they stood in the Meps station
and got their physical, took their ASFAB test, and swore in that they just commited themselves VOLUNTARILY!!!

Surrender , appeasment& Cowardice has never been nor will it ever be in the Creed of any of our 5 distinguished branches of service!

so lemme ask you something ,
Have you EVER served in a forward deployed Combat unit
of any branch of service ? based on your remarks and posting's
I'm guessing no! the closest you have gotten to ANY kind of combat
was late night hours spent playing warcraft !:rolleyes: :mad:

[tinknocker44]

so lemme ask you something ,
Have you EVER served in a forward deployed Combat unit
of any branch of service ? based on your remarks and posting's
I'm guessing no! the closest you have gotten to ANY kind of combat
was late night hours spent playing warcraft !

I prefer "call of duty".

[Pagan]

so lemme ask you something ,
Have you EVER served in a forward deployed Combat unit
of any branch of service ? based on your remarks and posting's
I'm guessing no! the closest you have gotten to ANY kind of combat
was late night hours spent playing warcraft !

I prefer "call of duty".:D Touche

[glennac]

[quote=tinknocker44;1551139]Finally getting our elected officials to do what we Americans want.


No surprise here Tink. What did you expect the commie dems to do? Actually stand up and support America and freedom. The Democrats have only supported winning a war when we were fighting Germany in both world wars. They never supported winning the war in Korea or Vietnam because we were fighting their friends the communists. They won't support America in war or in peace. We are too capitalist for there taste and we need to be punished for not giving all our wealth to the rest of the world and apologizing for being rich. We also should tax our corporations to the point of bankruptcy. Yeah we all knew the dems would stap our troops in the back in Iraq just like they did in Korea and Vietnam.

[tinknocker44]

[quote=tinknocker44;1551139]Finally getting our elected officials to do what we Americans want.


No surprise here Tink. What did you expect the commie dems to do? Actually stand up and support America and freedom. The Democrats have only supported winning a war when we were fighting Germany in both world wars. They never supported winning the war in Korea or Vietnam because we were fighting their friends the communists. They won't support America in war or in peace. We are too capitalist for there taste and we need to be punished for not giving all our wealth to the rest of the world and apologizing for being rich. We also should tax our corporations to the point of bankruptcy. Yeah we all knew the dems would stap our troops in the back in Iraq just like they did in Korea and Vietnam.

What about that growing list of commie Pugs that have stopped supporting the quagmire?

[glennac]

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What about that growing list of commie Pugs that have stopped supporting the quagmire?

Ok tink, so we have a few turncoats in our ranks. Senator Joe Lieberman a Democrat supports the war so there is one Democrat who stands up for America. We used to have a lot of pro American Democrats back in the 50's & 60's but they are all gone and they were nearly all from the South.

[tinknocker44]

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Ok tink, so we have a few turncoats in our ranks. Senator Joe Lieberm a Democrat supports the war so there is one Democrat who stands up for America. We used to have a lot of pro American Democrats back in the 50's & 60's but they are all gone and they were nearly all from the South.

Commie Republicans. say it.

[lhatton]

Finally getting our elected officials to do what we Americans want.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19723307/

Tink I gotta say that most Americans don't want to cut and run, and most, if not all of our voluntary military, home and abroad don't want to cut and run. Only people with a political agenda and the news media, well, I'll just say it, liberal Dems, want to cut and run. The numbers are not on your side, no matter how many names you'r gonna call me or anyone else who disagrees with you. Step up, put your nintendo controller down, and be an American, support your country unapologetically, support your troops.:mad:

[whec720]

Tink I gotta say that most Americans don't want to cut and run, and most, if not all of our voluntary military, home and abroad don't want to cut and run. Only people with a political agenda and the news media, well, I'll just say it, liberal Dems, want to cut and run. The numbers are not on your side, no matter how many names you'r gonna call me or anyone else who disagrees with you. Step up, put your nintendo controller down, and be an American, support your country unapologetically, support your troops.:mad:


You are wasting your time with tink. He'll never get it. He is just a dumb chimp and a commie one at that. He thinks he is going to get a cookie for carrying Soros' water. He'll receive NOTHING for his lame efforts. Yet, he keeps trying. Like I said........DUMB!:D

[lhatton]

You are wasting your time with tink. He'll never get it. He is just a dumb chimp and a commie one at that. He thinks he is going to get a cookie for carrying Soros' water. He'll receive NOTHING for his lame efforts. Yet, he keeps trying. Like I said........DUMB!:D

If calling him a commie means he hates America, your right. I don't consider this wasting my time though, I know there is other intelligent life forms out there, like yourself, that reads this stuff. Besides it's fun to get tinkerbell all riled up. You can almost predict what he will say next, I find it quite entertaining. Geer is another thats fun to poke at. He is tinkerbells
Intellectual equivalent:p

[whec720]

If calling him a commie means he hates America, your right. I don't consider this wasting my time though, I know there is other intelligent life forms out there, like yourself, that reads this stuff. Besides it's fun to get tinkerbell all riled up. You can almost predict what he will say next, I find it quite entertaining. Geer is another thats fun to poke at. He is tinkerbells
Intellectual equivalent:p

Agreed and right on the mark.;) Geer is a pinko, no doubt about it. However, I would not call him dumb. Bubbles, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. He can spam with the best of them but at the end of the day; who cares!:p :p

[lhatton]

Agreed and right on the mark.;) Geer is a pinko, no doubt about it. However, I would not call him dumb. Bubbles, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. He can spam with the best of them but at the end of the day; who cares!:p :p

Well said, Geer may have more brain cells than tinkerbell, but he is just as predictable as most ranting liberals.

[whec720]

True. LOL:D

[geerair]

Tink I gotta say that most Americans don't want to cut and run, and most, if not all of our voluntary military, home and abroad don't want to cut and run. Only people with a political agenda and the news media, well, I'll just say it, liberal Dems, want to cut and run. The numbers are not on your side, no matter how many names you'r gonna call me or anyone else who disagrees with you. Step up, put your nintendo controller down, and be an American, support your country unapologetically, support your troops.:mad:
Polls consistently show;

1. A majority of citizens think the optional Iraq invasion was a mistake.

2. That citizens favor troop withdrawal from Iraq.

[geerair]

Don't you just love two conservlican deadenders gossiping about commies and intellectual capabilities?


Stellar Entertainment!!!!!!

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[whec720]

The polls show that the majority of Americans want the illegals to be deported. Yet they are still here and our troops are still over there. So much for polls.:rolleyes: As usual, what is your point, geer?:p

[geerair]

The polls show that the majority of Americans want the illegals to be deported. Yet they are still here and our troops are still over there. So much for polls.:rolleyes: As usual, what is your point, geer?:pThe point being that your fellow deadender claimed that the numbers were not on tin's side.

Obviously he either, as is standard conservlican practice, pulled the statement out of his ass or hasn't the intellectual capacity to process or understand numbers. We report, you decide.

[whec720]

My point is, our so called "leaders" do as they please, despite public opinion and polls. Polls bolster arguments and disagreements. When they don't, people discard them. Doesn't matter if they are on the left or right. Human nature is what it is. We report, you decide.;)

[geerair]

My point is, our so called "leaders" do as they please, despite public opinion and polls. Polls bolster arguments and disagreements. When they don't, people discard them. Doesn't matter if they are on the left or right. Human nature is what it is. We report, you decide.;)Who cares what your point is?

Your point was about as relevant as dog feces. :eek:

[whec720]

Who cares what your point is?

Your point was about as relevent as dog feces. :eek:

I was wrong. You are as DUMB as tink.:D

[geerair]

I was wrong. You are as DUMB as tink.:DAnd you still have no relevant point. :eek:

[whec720]

Others would disagree, geer. You see, the world does not revolve around your judgment. I made MY point, now make yours.

[geerair]

You see, the world does not revolve around your judgment. It does here. The rest of you deadenders are just so many Baghdad Bobs.





I made MY point, now make yours.You belched out a stinky volume of hot air that had neither relevance nor intellectual coherence.

[whec720]

It does here. The rest of you deadenders are just so many Baghdad Bobs.




You belched out a stinky volume of hot air that had neither relevance nor intellectual coherence.

What was hot air? Are you on drugs? Care to give an example? Some tower of knowledge are you. Typical liberal........KNOWS IT ALL.:rolleyes: :p

[geerair]

What was hot air? What have we been typing about the past few posts?

Your point.



You know, your point that needs to be poop scooped off the sidewalk.

[whec720]

What have we been typing about the past few posts?

Your point.



You know, your point that needs to be poop scooped off the sidewalk.

More mindless babble, geer. Hot air? What a hypocrite.:D

[lhatton]

The point being that your fellow deadender claimed that the numbers were not on tin's side.

Obviously he either, as is standard conservlican practice, pulled the statement out of his ass or hasn't the intellectual capacity to process or understand numbers. We report, you decide.

Geer, I could take a poll on a Bible college campus and get the numbers to go in my favor. List your poll takers for just a little more credibility. And if you can't play nice, take your ball and go home.

[lhatton]

Who cares what your point is?

Your point was about as relevant as dog feces. :eek:

Hey geer, your intelligence is showing

[geerair]

Geer, I could take a poll on a Bible college campus and get the numbers to go in my favor.No doubt.

People who believe in ghosts, Noahcian floods, talking snakes and other assorted nonsense are easily manipulated.



List your poll takers for just a little more credibility. Okey dokey. How about one from the Republican Press Outlet, Fox News?



If you had to choose, which is more important to you personally, for Iraq to suceed and establish a stable Iraq or for U.S. troops to get out of Iraq?

5/15-16/07

Succeed 34%

Get out 46%

Both 16%

Unsure 3%

Even with this loaded question, the numbers are in favor of withdrawal.





Now how about providing some evidence for your assertion the numbers aren't on your side?





And if you can't play nice, take your ball and go home.Grow a set.

[lhatton]

No doubt.

People who believe in ghosts, Noahcian floods, talking snakes and other assorted nonsense are easily manipulated.


Okey dokey. How about one from the Republican Press Outlet, Fox News?



If you had to choose, which is more important to you personally, for Iraq to suceed and establish a stable Iraq or for U.S. troops to get out of Iraq?

5/15-16/07

Succeed 34%

Get out 46%

Both 16%

Unsure 3%

Even with this loaded question, the numbers are in favor of withdrawal.





Now how about providing some evidence for your assertion the numbers aren't on your side?




Grow a set.

Once again, your (lack of) intelleigence is showing. Just when you were about to sound smart, you dumbed it down by the insulting. We can expect no less from Geer.

[geerair]

[quote=geerair;1554340]
Once again, your (lack of) intelleigence is showing. Here is a hint: If you are going to question a person's intelligence, make sure you spell intelligence correctly. :eek:

Kinda helps with the credibility thing.



Still waiting on the evidence supporting your wild assertion.

[lhatton]

[quote=lhatton;1555028]Here is a hint: If you are going to question a person's intelligence, make sure you spell intelligence correctly. :eek:

Kinda helps with the credibility thing.



Still waiting on the evidence supporting your wild assertion.


True that Geer. I kin spel, I jest kaint tipe. I have 2 bum fingers that have no feeling, so forgive my typing handicap, or make fun of it, which seems to be more your style.

[lhatton]

Contrary to what you’ve read in the newspapers, we are not debating whether to ‘change course’ in Iraq. We are debating whether to accept defeat in Iraq. Contrary to what you’ve seen on television, there is no way for us to ‘end the war.’ If we retreat from Iraq, the war will not just continue but expand. The only difference is that a battlefield on which we are now killing our enemies will be transformed into a base from which our enemies can safely plan to kill us. Yes, it’s disappointing that the American-backed government in Baghdad has not yet met its ‘benchmarks’ for enacting political and economic reforms. Iraqi politicians have failed to pass laws dividing oil revenue among the country’s main population groups; excluding fewer Ba’athists from obtaining government jobs; and scheduling provincial elections in areas where Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds are competing for power. But let’s get serious: Passing such laws is no longer our primary goal in Iraq. What is? Preventing al-Qa’ida (and/or Iran’s radical mullahs) from defeating us on what they call the ‘central front’ of the global war being waged against America and the West. Should they beat us in Iraq, they will be seen as giant killers. Recruits will pound on their doors. What would our enemies do next? No need to guess. Al-Qa’ida leaders have vowed that after they ‘expel the Americans from Iraq’ they will launch a ‘jihad wave to the secular countries neighboring Iraq’

[ga-hvac-tech]

Whec and Ihatton:

You guys need to understand something about Geer: He is here for comic relief, he said so in a post last fall. His sole purpose is to practice manipulating folks. You are not going to get him to believe this or that, because he does not believe anything. He is just argueing to see if he can win the arguement. He really has no political position, he only argues. Watch him carefully from the sidelines as he argues with someone else; he will take any position to see if he can goad them into making a fool of themselves... and then claim how smart he is. He reminds me of the sig line of the penguin: something about wressling with a pig, and realizing the pig enjoys the mud... That is why I have him on my ignore list. And if the rest of us would do that also, he would go away... because what he wants here is attention (just like tinker). Take that away, and he will go away... And we can have some discussions that lead to intelligent resolutions.

As far as congress voting to leave Iraq:

1) The dems are scared to the point of pooping in their pants that they will inherit the war in 2008... They have NO idea how to fight a war, because all they know how to do is kiss up to goofy misfits to buy votes.
2) Bush will veto any of their congressional bills anyhow, and there are NOT 60 votes in the senate to over-ride a veto... and everyone (except geer and Tinker) knows it. Well, Geer probably knows it also, but Geer will argue anything just to argue... that is the only thing he is here for.

SOOO Looks like nothing more than posturing to me... :cool:

[ga-hvac-tech]

Concerning Iraq:

IMO the best solution to Iraq would be to divide it into 3 countries for the three ethnic groups. Then there would be no excuse to not 'get on with life'. And since the Kurds re so friendly to the USA, we need to build our military presence in the Kurdish region. Then if the others do not like things, they can fight it out on their land... We just sit back and watch (carrying a big stick if they get too loud).

Those folks over there remind me of a bunch of spoiled kids in grade school who will not listen... So how do you deal with the playground bully???

Seriously, anyone have an answer???

[lhatton]

ga-hvac-tech, Thanks for the insight on Geer. It all makes sense now.

[Carnak]

Concerning Iraq:

IMO the best solution to Iraq would be to divide it into 3 countries for the three ethnic groups. Then there would be no excuse to not 'get on with life'. And since the Kurds re so friendly to the USA, we need to build our military presence in the Kurdish region. Then if the others do not like things, they can fight it out on their land... We just sit back and watch (carrying a big stick if they get too loud).

Those folks over there remind me of a bunch of spoiled kids in grade school who will not listen... So how do you deal with the playground bully???

Seriously, anyone have an answer???Who gets the oil? Your Turkish allies would be a little upset if you buddy up with the Kurds. Kurds are the persona non-gratta of the world. Their homeland is in Iraq, Turkey, Iran and Syria

Isn't the bully the guy who beats you up and takes your lunch money

[ga-hvac-tech]

Who gets the oil? Your Turkish allies would be a little upset if you buddy up with the Kurds. Kurds are the persona non-gratta of the world. Their homeland is in Iraq, Turkey, Iran and Syria

Isn't the bully the guy who beats you up and takes your lunch money

Who gets the oil? They all three do, in their regions... And they can learn to get along with each other, or fight it out (like they are doing now).

As for Turkey: They want into the EU bad enough that they will play along if they are told to make peace with the Kurds.

Personally, I would like to see a Kurdish country that included a little of SE Turkey, a little of NW Iran, and a slice of N Syria (all the way to the Med Sea). Nice country, large enough to be a formidable force to recon with, and a GREAT place IMO for the USA to have a permanent presence in the ME (and I am sure we all know that the US WILL have a permanent presence there).

You may ask where do I get the idea of re-drawing the lines in the ME? It has been done repeatedly by super-powers in the past, study your history books.

Ah yes, the playground bully. Yeah he beats you up and takes your lunch money (or your new coat until the teacher tells him to give it back). But why does he do this? Because he craves the POWER over other folks (in reality he usually has in inferiority complex and takes it out on others)! And IMO a geopolitical bully like Saddaam (or that idiot in Iran) is really no different. And what do you do with a playground bully in grade school? The proper authorities must deal with him or everyone is miserable. In the case of geopolitical playgrounds the USA is the police-person of the world, so we get the wonderful (not) duty of dealing with idiots like Saddaam (and the problem of cleaning up the mess).

I will tell you this though: I would much rather live in the country of the police-person than the country of the bully! Which one would you rather live in?

[mark42202]

Personally, I would like to see a Kurdish country that included a little of SE Turkey, a little of NW Iran, and a slice of N Syria (all the way to the Med Sea). Nice country, large enough to be a formidable force to recon with, and a GREAT place IMO for the USA to have a permanent presence in the ME (and I am sure we all know that the US WILL have a permanent presence there).



Not to mention it is one of the most beautiful places I have seen. We joked about going back on a vacation there sometime if everything ever settled down. The mountains and meadows are absolutely stunning in Northern Iraq, some of which I have never seen the likes of anywhere else.

[geerair]

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True that Geer. I kin spel, I jest kaint tipe. I have 2 bum fingers that have no feeling, so forgive my typing handicap, or make fun of it, which seems to be more your style.The fun was the delicious irony of you attempting to question somebody's intelligence when you can't even get the word right. http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/rotflol.gif


Your situation is ripe for the "preview post" function.

[sline-dawg]

Ga and Twilli use to have psychological business too...:D :D

[geerair]

Contrary to what you’ve read in the newspapers, we are not debating whether to ‘change course’ in Iraq. We are debating whether to accept defeat in Iraq. That would be Bush's view but then he is more concerned with his legacy than any realistic solution in Iraq.




Contrary to what you’ve seen on television, there is no way for us to ‘end the war.’ If we retreat from Iraq, the war will not just continue but expand.It has been expanding since day one.



The only difference is that a battlefield on which we are now killing our enemies will be transformed into a base from which our enemies can safely plan to kill us. Perhaps you missed the National Intelligence Estimate that was released this week.

"Iraq has strengthened al Qaeda which will seek to leverage the contacts and capabilities gained in the war." "Al qaeda association with al Qadea in Iraq (AQI) helps to energize the broader Sunni extemeist community and recruit and indoctrinate operatives."




Yes, it’s disappointing that the American-backed government in Baghdad has not yet met its ‘benchmarks’ for enacting political and economic reforms. Iraqi politicians have failed to pass laws dividing oil revenue among the country’s main population groups; excluding fewer Ba’athists from obtaining government jobs; and scheduling provincial elections in areas where Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds are competing for power. But let’s get serious: Passing such laws is no longer our primary goal in Iraq. Ah, you should let Bush and Condi in on your novel hypothesis. They seem to feel, as does most of the rest of the world that a stable, functioning Iraq government is critical to success in Iraq.

Perhaps you know something they don't.




Recruits will pound on their doors. That is already happening and has been happening for years.



What would our enemies do next? No need to guess. Al-Qa’ida leaders have vowed that after they ‘expel the Americans from Iraq’ they will launch a ‘jihad wave to the secular countries neighboring Iraq’ Al-qaeda makes up a small portion of the insugency according to military estimates. If the U.S. is expelled it will be because of the Sunni/Shia civil war quagmire.


According again to the NIE, "Al Qaeda has regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability, including a safehaven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas. (FATA)"








You get an "A" in regurgitating Whitehouse/Republican talking points but an "F" in understanding the Iraq war.

[geerair]

Ga and Twilli use to have psychological business too...:D :DTwilli was a success, Ga drove his patients to commit suicide. :D :D :D

[geerair]

Whec and Ihatton:

You guys need to understand something about Geer: He is here for comic relief, he said so in a post last fall. His sole purpose is to practice manipulating folks. You are not going to get him to believe this or that, because he does not believe anything. He is just argueing to see if he can win the arguement. He really has no political position, he only argues. Watch him carefully from the sidelines as he argues with someone else; he will take any position to see if he can goad them into making a fool of themselves... and then claim how smart he is. He reminds me of the sig line of the penguin: something about wressling with a pig, and realizing the pig enjoys the mud... That is why I have him on my ignore list. And if the rest of us would do that also, he would go away... because what he wants here is attention (just like tinker). Take that away, and he will go away... And we can have some discussions that lead to intelligent resolutions.http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/ecomcity.gif

[whec720]

That would be Bush's view but then he is more concerned with his legacy than any realistic solution in Iraq.



It has been expanding since day one.


Perhaps you missed the National Intelligence Estimate that was released this week.

"Iraq has strengthened al Qaeda which will seek to leverage the contacts and capabilities gained in the war." "Al qaeda association with al Qadea in Iraq (AQI) helps to energize the broader Sunni extemeist community and recruit and indoctrinate operatives."



Ah, you should let Bush and Condi in on your novel hypothesis. They seem to feel, as does most of the rest of the world that a stable, functioning Iraq government is critical to success in Iraq.

Perhaps you know something they don't.



That is already happening and has been happening for years.


Al-qaeda makes up a small portion of the insugency according to military estimates. If the U.S. is expelled it will be because of the Sunni/Shia civil war quagmire.


According again to the NIE, "Al Qaeda has regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability, including a safehaven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas. (FATA)"








You get an "A" in regurgitating Whitehouse/Republican talking points but an "F" in understanding the Iraq war.

Professor geer, perhaps you could all enlighten us with one of your Manhattan Project sized "efforts" to better solutions to the war. You know so much.:rolleyes: Oh let us know, oh commie one. What is the better way?:p

[ga-hvac-tech]

Yes Mr Geer the almighty of knoweldge: You always know when someone is wrong, tell us what is right... (if you can)... :D

BTW Geer: I know what the NIE brief was about, do you?

[sline-dawg]

How could geer's assessment be any worse than what we're doing now....:confused:


And how could you prove it wrong....:rolleyes:

[ga-hvac-tech]

How could geer's assessment be any worse than what we're doing now....:confused: And how could you prove it wrong....:rolleyes:

I want to see what Geer knows. Geer always slices up other folks posts (I do not remember Geer ever starting a thread???). I want to hear what Geer thinks. As in Geer telling us how to SOLVE the problem. Would you like to hear that also???

[sline-dawg]

Would you like to hear that also???




Oh, I will....later...... The nurse just gave me my pills , a juice box and Animal crackers......WHOO---....Maybe tomorrow...:o

[Carnak]

I want to see what Geer knows. Geer always slices up other folks posts (I do not remember Geer ever starting a thread???). I want to hear what Geer thinks. As in Geer telling us how to SOLVE the problem. Would you like to hear that also???
you seem a little fixated on some one you supposedly have on ignore :)

[ga-hvac-tech]

Oh, I will....later...... The nurse just gave me my pills , a juice box and Animal crackers......WHOO---....Maybe tomorrow...:o

Wish I had a nurse... :D

[ga-hvac-tech]

you seem a little fixated on some one you supposedly have on ignore :)

Not really, just want to see if he will actually say something pro-active... But I seriously doubt it... :rolleyes:

[geerair]

Professor geer, perhaps you could all enlighten us with one of your Manhattan Project sized "efforts" to better solutions to the war. You know so much.:rolleyes: Oh let us know, oh commie one. What is the better way?:pHmmmm.............. Deja Vu all over again.

I could have sworn you asked and I answered the very same question a few days ago.


Possibly your memory could benefit from an increase of vegetables to your diet.

[geerair]

Yes Mr Geer the almighty of knoweldge: You always know when someone is wrong, tell us what is right... (if you can)... :D

BTW Geer: I know what the NIE brief was about, do you?Yes.

Let us have your analysis and let's see if it bears even a scant relationship to the real NIE.

[geerair]

I want to see what Geer knows. Geer always slices up other folks posts (I do not remember Geer ever starting a thread???). In the member profiles is a link called "find all threads started by............" Go to my profile and click the link. There are five pages of threads started by geerair. :rolleyes:

[geerair]

you seem a little fixated on some one you supposedly have on ignore :)Yeah, I've noticed that.

Kind of creepy actually. :eek: :eek:

[absolute air]

Contrary to what you've read in the newspapers, we are not debating wheter to 'change coarse' in Iraq. We are debating whether to accept defeat in Iraq. Contrary to what you've seen on television, there is no way for us t 'end the war'. If we retreat from Iraq, the war will not just continue but expand. The only difference is that a battlefield on which we are now killing our enemies will be transformed into a base from which our enemies can safely plan to kill us. Yes, it's diappointing that the American-backed government in Bagdad has not yet met it's 'benchmarks' for enacting political and economic reforms. Iraqi politicians have to pass laws dividing oil revenueamong the country's main population groups; excluding fewer Ba'athists from obtaining government jobs; and scheduling provincial elections in areas where Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds are competing for power. But let's get serious: Passing such laws is no longer our primary goal in Iraq. What is ? Preventing al-Qa'ida/mullahs from defeating us on what they call the central front'of the global war being waged against America and the West. Should they beat us in Iraq, they will be seen as giant killers. Recruits will pound on their doors .Would would our enemies do next ? No need to guess. Al-Qa'ida haved vowed that after they 'expel the Americans from Iraq' they will launch a 'jihad wave to the secular countries neighboring Iraq'. Clifford May

[whec720]

Hmmmm.............. Deja Vu all over again.

I could have sworn you asked and I answered the very same question a few days ago.


Possibly your memory could benefit from an increase of vegetables to your diet.

Funny, that is my feeling on your posts. Same ol' moveon.org talking points. Manhattan Project sized effort......give me a break. You'll never live that one down.:rolleyes:
Carrot, geer?

[geerair]

Funny, that is my feeling on your posts. Same ol' moveon.org talking points. Manhattan Project sized effort......give me a break. You'll never live that one down.:rolleyes:
Carrot, geer?So, you admit you have a habit of repeating yourself.

Even more pitiful is that you forget your own posts. http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/rotflol.gif


MP sized, never live it down? Why would I want to live it down dear boy?

That is a clever bit of writing.

Feel free to publicize it as often as you like.

[geerair]

Contrary to what you've read in the newspapers, we are not debating wheter to 'change coarse' in Iraq. We are debating whether to accept defeat in Iraq. Contrary to what you've seen on television, there is no way for us t 'end the war'. If we retreat from Iraq, the war will not just continue but expand. The only difference is that a battlefield on which we are now killing our enemies will be transformed into a base from which our enemies can safely plan to kill us. Yes, it's diappointing that the American-backed government in Bagdad has not yet met it's 'benchmarks' for enacting political and economic reforms. Iraqi politicians have to pass laws dividing oil revenueamong the country's main population groups; excluding fewer Ba'athists from obtaining government jobs; and scheduling provincial elections in areas where Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds are competing for power. But let's get serious: Passing such laws is no longer our primary goal in Iraq. What is ? Preventing al-Qa'ida/mullahs from defeating us on what they call the central front'of the global war being waged against America and the West. Should they beat us in Iraq, they will be seen as giant killers. Recruits will pound on their doors .Would would our enemies do next ? No need to guess. Al-Qa'ida haved vowed that after they 'expel the Americans from Iraq' they will launch a 'jihad wave to the secular countries neighboring Iraq'. Clifford MayWell, that is twice this melange of conservlican Iraq "stay the course" talking points, written by a goofball who has been wrong about everything Iraq, has been posted in this thread.

For an elegant debunking of this laughable apologetic, refer back to the original posting of and response to the article.

[lhatton]

Interesting read.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070719/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq

[geerair]

Interesting read.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070719/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq Interesting comment from this "interesting read"

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel: "We buy time for what? A political reconciliation that is not occurring?"

[yelram]

Well, that is twice this melange of conservlican Iraq "stay the course" talking points, written by a goofball who has been wrong about everything Iraq, has been posted in this thread.

For an elegant debunking of this laughable apologetic, refer back to the original posting of and response to the article.

Yeah good job addressing his points(/sarcasm). Maybe its because deep down you know how stupid pulling our troops out of Iraq would be. Even the democrats in congress only dangle the possibility of troop withdrawal to sucker mindless appeasement driven schlubs like yourself into voting for them. The Iraqi government has achieved more of their benchmarks than the newly elected democratic congress achieved in their promise of a first 100 days of action.

[wallynut]

Dems have no Balls. :) :) :)

All they have to do is stop funding the war.

[ga-hvac-tech]

What I find interesting about these 'high minded liberals' is what would happen if one (or more) of them were on the business end of a terrorist rifle (not the trigger pulling end). Wonder if all that hot air they keep pumping out would stop the little high velocity bits of lead coming their way?

In Geer's case, he just may have enough hot air to scare a bullet away... :D probably melt it. But multiple bullets... no, we would have to find another goofy liberal to laugh at.

[glennac]

In Geer's case, he just may have enough hot air to scare a bullet away... :D probably melt it. But multiple bullets... no, we would have to find another goofy liberal to laugh at.

Hell, I think Geer's parents sent him to Karl Marx Academy for gifted young Marxists. He is a true believer in the cause and nothing not nothing will convince him that there is ever anything wrong on the Socialist side (liberal Democrats). He is very dedicated to the cause as good as any Communist Commissar I have ever seen He has a robotic stance to defend the cause to the bitter end. James called him Robotech I think. Something like that anyhow.

[geerair]

Hell, I think Geer's parents sent him to Karl Marx Academy for gifted young Marxists. He is a true believer in the cause and nothing not nothing will convince him that there is ever anything wrong on the Socialist side (liberal Democrats). He is very dedicated to the cause as good as any Communist Commissar I have ever seen He has a robotic stance to defend the cause to the bitter end. James called him Robotech I think. Something like that anyhow.Karl Marx Academy?

You wound me sir.

The Karl Marx Academy is nothing more than running dog criminal capitalists who betrayed the revolution.

I am a proud graduate of the Mao Tse-tung School for Advanced Revolutionaries and Herbal Medicine College.

[geerair]

The Iraqi government has achieved more of their benchmarks than the newly elected democratic congress achieved in their promise of a first 100 days of action.Ah, I see.

I expect the Iraqi government needs that month long August vacation to rest up after such a flurry of non-success.

Too bad our troops don't get a vacation from being shot and blown up while defending the Iraqi government.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Hell, I think Geer's parents sent him to Karl Marx Academy for gifted young Marxists. He is a true believer in the cause and nothing not nothing will convince him that there is ever anything wrong on the Socialist side (liberal Democrats). He is very dedicated to the cause as good as any Communist Commissar I have ever seen He has a robotic stance to defend the cause to the bitter end. James called him Robotech I think. Something like that anyhow.

You make a good observation of Geer and his dedication to argueing.

But as I posted in another thread: Geer has no loyalty to anything but Geer. He starts arguements just to argue and see if he can goad someone into making a fool of themselves, then Geer toots his horn about how great Geer is.

Reminds me of a seasoned trial lawyer (or a politician). They are only interested in promoting themselves. And they have no scruples about how they do it.

I would not be surprised but when conservative gets back in style, Geer will argue with liberals. Geer is all about winning arguements, NOTHING MORE.

[geerair]

For someone who claims to have me on ignore, GA sure talks about me a lot.

I'm not sure whether to be flattered or creeped out. :eek: