10 seer Carrier a bad bet?

[Athensanna]

Dear experts,

We're homeowners, and we're this close to picking a residential AC unit, and have one more question for you: After looking at every conceivable 3-ton, 13-seer, residential AC unit (and inside coil), we think we like the Carrier comfort line.

So, a salesman in our town who sells Carriers told us that he has older units of Carriers. He said, "Why do you think you need a 13 seer? We have 10-seer units to sell, for less." The warranty is only 5-year on compressor, but the price is pretty good.

What do you guys think--is an older unit (a couple of years old) 10-seer unit ok? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks!
Athensanna

[dash]

New or used?

Depends on your climate,not worth it in Florida.

[Athensanna]

Dash,
these are new (but older) 10-seer units, that the AC business didn't sell. I think they have them in their warehouse. We live in Chicago, where we rely on AC 2 1/2 months of the year.

[ptcooper]

We do HVAC. I would love to have 10 SEER to offer to my coustomers. If the difference in price is noticable, GO for it. :p

[vrocrider]

I'm looking for 10SEER 2T. Couls you give me contact name/number. Thanks.

[nashobasales]

I think for the amount of time you would use it, it's not a bad idea. Just make sure the install is done correctly and you should be happy.

[Athensanna]

PTCooper,
(and others :) Why is the 10-seer good? Thank you!

[jasruby79]

I am a homeowner who just recently had a new 14seer system installed. I would have loved to get a 10seer unit for one reason: SIZE.I have a three story townhome, but have very little room for the outdoor unit. You would be surprised how much larger the higher effeciency units are. I know you didn't mention anything about size requirements, but just a bit of advice.

[Athensanna]

Also, the guy said they would only put in the outside unit, and not the A-coil inside. We had a Carrier 9-seer, and the coil we have inside matches that. Do we need a new A-coil inside (furnace) if we get the 10-seer unit?
Thank you

[Athensanna]

We do HVAC. I would love to have 10 SEER to offer to my coustomers. If the difference in price is noticable, GO for it. :p
He's charging $ for the 10-seer (outside unit only)

[smokin68]

He's charging $for the 10-seer (outside unit only)


I would definetly get the A-coil changed out to match the new 10 seer. You then have a new A/C system instead of half new.

[vrocrider]

Know we're not supposed to talk price but I'm a homeowner so maybe OK.

NOT OK, NO PRICING.

[Athensanna]

Know we're not supposed to talk price but I'm a homeowner so maybe OK.

Bought a new Rheem Classic scroll 2 1/2 ton 10SEER .

18 seems high. Make sure you get line drier if unit doesn't have one.
Oh, sorry about mentioning the price!! Sorry for breaking the rules, and thanks for sharing about your unit.

[nashobasales]

What's with all the prices being thrown around?:rolleyes:

[Athensanna]

What's with all the prices being thrown around?:rolleyes:
sorry--I can see how mentioning a price might be over the top ...

[ARPA]

sorry--I can see how mentioning a price might be over the top ...

Then please read the rules. NO pricing allowed.

[Athensanna]

Then please read the rules. NO pricing allowed.
I'm sorry! Will do! And thanks for everyone's help...

[vrocrider]

Sorry about pricing too.
Would still like to get contact info on 10SEER. Please email at vrocrider@yahoo.com. Thanks.

[ptcooper]

The biggest reason for not wanting higher SEER is COST. It takes a long long time to recoup the additional price increase.

When 10 SEER was the minimum, our upgrade was a 14 SEER. Not a 11 - 12 - nor 13 SEER. We would charge equipment price difference plus $100.00. In Raleigh, it would take the customer approximately 9 to 11 years of savings on the electric bill to recoup the additional cost. Almost all contractors charge a higher increase that that. So, it would take even longer.

[Jabarco]

7 years ago, one of the best things that happened to me was my condensing unit of 12 years had a compressor failure =:^ (

Instead of replacing the compressor, I installed a new condensing unit with a higher SEER (only 12) and new coil. Now, I save about $800 a year in electricity compared to my old condensing unit. In addition, as electric rates increase, I will save even more money.

Today, I pay 29.7¢ per kilowatt/hr to run my a/c in the summer.

Jabs

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[CottyGee]

I pay 29.7¢ per kilowatt/hr
GOOD GOD! Where are you located?!??

Man, if I had to pay those kinds of rates, my summer electric bills would be more than my mortgage payment! :eek:

[RoBoTeq]

I am a homeowner who just recently had a new 14seer system installed. I would have loved to get a 10seer unit for one reason: SIZE.I have a three story townhome, but have very little room for the outdoor unit. You would be surprised how much larger the higher effeciency units are. I know you didn't mention anything about size requirements, but just a bit of advice.

If size was such an issue, why did you go with a larger 14 SEER unit rather then a 13 SEER unit?

[RoBoTeq]

GOOD GOD! Where are you located?!??

Man, if I had to pay those kinds of rates, my summer electric bills would be more than my mortgage payment! :eek:

In the Baltimore, MD area the rates from BGE have just increased 72%. It could happen anywhere and is most likely going to happen everywhere. This is going to severely impact the cost of operation versus the cost of installing a higher efficiency system.

[CottyGee]

Well 30¢ kWh would be a 200% increase from my current summer rates. And actually, my average summer rate is a bit less, since we are on a time-of-use plan...

[jasruby79]

If size was such an issue, why did you go with a larger 14 SEER unit rather then a 13 SEER unit?

Lets just say I wasn't a very informed "H.O." (I found this website/forum DURING my actual install, and AFTER I had signed the contract.) I didn't feel like being a "nightmare" customer and insisting on a less effecient unit when the unit was already delivered.
That's one of the reasons I gave my two cents on this thread...just want other HO's to think of things that I didnt.

[Jabarco]

Man, if I had to pay those kinds of rates, my summer electric bills would be more than my mortgage payment! :eek:


Don't be ridiculous! A 2-bedroom hovel here in Southern California cost more than ½ million dollars and we have a 3-bedroom. Along with running the pool pump 24/7 in the summer and running the a/c when needed, we easily go 300% over our 245 kw/month baseline allotment.
http://www.sce.com/NR/sc3/tm2/pdf/ce12-12.pdf

Hey, I fart harder than 245 kw.hrs a month!

[ptcooper]

Don't be ridiculous! A 2-bedroom hovel here in Southern California cost more than ½ million dollars and we have a 3-bedroom. Along with running the pool pump 24/7 in the summer and running the a/c when needed, we easily go 300% over our 245 kw/month baseline allotment.
http://www.sce.com/NR/sc3/tm2/pdf/ce12-12.pdf

Hey, I fart harder than 245 kw.hrs a month!

You guy's rates are unheard of here in North Carolina. Our rates are 9.7 cents. My last electric bill was about $90.00. That is for 2,000 sf, programmable t-stat set on 74° for the return and sleep, and 80° for away, and total electric. With rates like that........... Thank God for 13 SEER equipment.

[Jabarco]

Our rates are 9.7 cents. My last electric bill was about $90.00.


Hey, I can't help it if they're not charging you enough! ®

[RoBoTeq]

You guy's rates are unheard of here in North Carolina. Our rates are 9.7 cents. My last electric bill was about $90.00. That is for 2,000 sf, programmable t-stat set on 74° for the return and sleep, and 80° for away, and total electric. With rates like that........... Thank God for 13 SEER equipment.

Don't get too cocky, that can all change in an instant.

[CottyGee]

Don't be ridiculous! A 2-bedroom hovel here in Southern California cost more than ½ million dollars and we have a 3-bedroom. Along with running the pool pump 24/7 in the summer and running the a/c when needed, we easily go 300% over our 245 kw/month baseline allotment.
http://www.sce.com/NR/sc3/tm2/pdf/ce12-12.pdf

Hey, I fart harder than 245 kw.hrs a month!
Uh, so what's your point? If I were paying 30¢/kWh, my summer electric bills would be more than my mortgage. We're averaging 4,000-5,000 kWh used in the summer months...

What's ridiculous about that? :confused:

[sammy37]

I'm surprised that there is thousands of homes in southern cal built in the 60's 70's and most of the 80's that never came with any kind of cooling. Anything over 75 degrees in a house is too dang warm for me!

[Jabarco]

Uh, so what's your point? If I were paying 30¢/kWh, my summer electric bills would be more than my mortgage. We're averaging 4,000-5,000 kWh used in the summer months...

What's ridiculous about that? :confused:

Hey, I can't help it if you didn't get the point!

[walterk]

I'm looking for 10SEER 2T. Couls you give me contact name/number. Thanks.
I have 2 ton 10 SEER Carrier CKC units in stock, I have 2 1/2 ton 10 SEER Carrier air conditioning units in stock, I have 3 ton 10 SEER Carrier air conditioning units in stock I have 4 ton 10 SEER Carrier air conditioning units in stock http://a-amechanical.com/furnace_air_conditioner_boiler.htm