This is great

[James 3528]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Erushlimbaugh%2Ecom%2Fhome% 2Ftoday%2Eguest%2Ehtml

Remember 7 years of Geer and liberals saying no terrorist were in Iraq prior to us invading? That they were not sponsoring terrorism ? That Saddam was just misunderstood ?

This in realty defines liberalism. How fitting it flows from a two faced dork that now has said GW lied to us about the Iraqi threat and now has the liberal lemmings now refocused on the Global Warming scare.

[geerair]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Erushlimbaugh%2Ecom%2Fhome% 2Ftoday%2Eguest%2Ehtml

Remember 7 years of Geer and liberals saying no terrorist were in Iraq prior to us invading? That they were not sponsoring terrorism ? That Saddam was just misunderstood ?

This in realty defines liberalism. How fitting it flows from a two faced dork that now has said GW lied to us about the Iraqi threat and now has the liberal lemmings now refocused on the Global Warming scare.1992?

Yawn.

This is about as relevent as your Clinton e-mail.

[James 3528]

Fly meets fly paper. :D

[chillbilly]

1992?
Yawn. This is about as relevent as your Clinton e-mail.
Yawn, my ass. It's quite relevant and Saddam's attacks during the time Gore directly referenced have everything to do with what's happening in the ME in Iraq.
The liberal Dems knew back then that Iraq was "attempting to acquire WMD's" as indicated by Al Gore himself.

That's Gold James.

BRAVO!

Talk about words coming back to bite someone in the ass. :eek:
Al Gore was a much better orator back then. LOL

[James 3528]

Gore was taken out of context Geer wants to say :D :D

[chillbilly]

Fly meets fly paper. :D

BBBBBB... BAM!
:D :D :D :D :D

[James 3528]

Gore has no upper lip.....look at the first second of the film.

He looks like a Grouper

[bb]

BUT BUT BUT BUT BUSH LIED!!!:p

[geerair]

No WMD

No nukes

No ties to Al-Qaeda

No imminent threat

No ability to project conventional force against its neighbors

Yep, Bush owns this baby, lies and all.


1992?

Laughable

[James 3528]

No WMD

No nukes

No ties to Al-Qaeda

No imminent threat

No ability to project conventional force against its neighbors

Yep, Bush owns this baby, lies and all.


1992?

Laughable

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good... Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good... Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good... Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good.... Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad....

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good... Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good... Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good... Recession under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good... World Trade Centers fall under Bush - Bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good... Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good... No WMD found Iraq - bad...


Liberals....what a mess. Let's hear more from Geergore


See I can change the subject like Geergore



Now back to Al Gore and the content of what he actually said.

[bb]

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good... Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good... Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good... Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good.... Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad....

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good... Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good... Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good... Recession under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good... World Trade Centers fall under Bush - Bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good... Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good... No WMD found Iraq - bad...


Liberals....what a mess. Let's hear more from Geergore


See I can change the subject like Geergore



Now back to Al Gore and the content of what he actually said.

I Think GEER is OWNED

:D :D :D :D :D

[geerair]

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good... Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...Both bad.



Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good... Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad... Bush spends 435 billion and counting on Iraq. Real bad.






Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...Clinton regime change costs no U.S. lives.

Bush regime change has cost 3500 and counting.




Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good... Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...Iraq civilian death toll 35,000 to 100,000 dead.

Death is liberation

Real bad for Bush



Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good.... Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad....Who said bombing terrorist camps was bad?






Clinton commits felonies while in office - good... Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...Bush lies and gets the
U.S. mired down in a bloody quagmire civl war.

Real bad.



Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good... Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad...The mass graves were real, the wmd were not.

Real bad for Bush





Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good... Recession under Bush - bad...Worst recovery from a recession in history.

Real bad for Bush








Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good... World Trade Centers fall under Bush - Bad...Custody of Bin Laden......myth

Bush ignores repeated warnings and crucial Aug. 2001 PDB

Real bad for Bush





Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...Clinton avoids a quagmire of a civil war, Bush doesn't.

Real bad for Bush



Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good... Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...Bush pulls military and intelligence assets from Afghanistan in order to start optional war in Iraq. Taliban and Al-qaeda grow stronger and Bin Laden remains uncaptured.

Real bad for Bush






No mass graves found in Serbia - good... No WMD found Iraq - bad... Mass graves found in Serbia, internet poster unaware.

[James 3528]

LOL Geergore sets history straight.....yet when the time comes for it to matter....



.....it don't matter

[James 3528]

Mass graves found in Serbia, internet poster unaware.The only mass graves found there to the extent Clinton and Albright claimed are the ones they made. Clinton and Albright bombed our WW2 allies that gave shelter to our pilots in the name of the people that stuck pitch forks in them.

[chillbilly]

I smell that old familiar smell again.....it's barbequed geer ass.

:D :D :D

[mark42202]

The mass graves were real, the wmd were not.

Real bad for Bush



But the mass graves found in Iraq were ok, right geer? You're claiming that since we found mass graves in Serbia, Clinton was right. So since we found a$$loads of mass graves in Iraq, it should be right too, by YOUR own logic, of course.

[geerair]

The only mass graves found there to the extent Clinton and Albright claimed are the ones they made. Clinton and Albright bombed our WW2 allies that gave shelter to our pilots in the name of the people that stuck pitch forks in them.http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/fullMaps_Eu.nsf/luFullMap/3986128910C24F50852569EC005E85B6/$File/massgraves.pdf?OpenElement

[geerair]

But the mass graves found in Iraq were ok, right geer? You're claiming that since we found mass graves in Serbia, Clinton was right.Where did I say Clinton was right?


So since we found a$$loads of mass graves in Iraq, it should be right too, by YOUR own logic, of course.By your strawman version of my logic.

I will say that whereas the U.S. participation in Kosovo was sanctioned by an international body, the Iraq invasion was not sanctioned by any international body.

[geerair]

james and mark need to get on the same page. One says mass graves, the other denies it.

[mark42202]

We're on the same page, buffoon. We agree that Clinton LIED about the mass graves being as numerous they were. There were a few, for sure, but not enough to back his claims.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a383733326c5a.htm

As far as your claim to no international support for Iraq, well, what exactly do YOU consider international, boy wonder? See below.

Multi-National Corps-Iraq Units

United States: 250,000 invasion--150,000 current
United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion--5,500 current
Poland: 194 invasion--2,500 peak--900 current
Australia: 2,000 invasion--638 current
Denmark: 300 invasion--460 current

TOTAL INVASION DEPLOYMENT, REGULAR TROOPS
297,494

Korea South Korea: 3,600 peak--1,200 current
Romania: 730 peak--405 current
Georgia: 500 troops--300 current
El Salvador: 380 troops
Czech Republic: 300 peak--89 current
Azerbaijan: 250 troops
Latvia: 136 peak--125 current
Mongolia: 180 peak--100 current
Albania: 120 troops
Lithuania: 120 peak--53 current
Armenia: 46 current
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 36 troops
Estonia: 35 current
Macedonia: 33 troops
Kazakhstan: 29 troops
Moldova: 24 peak--12 current
Bulgaria : 485 peak--155 current



NATO Training Mission - Iraq

Netherlands
Slovenia
Slovakia
Bulgaria
Hungary
Italy
Turkey
Romania
Lithuania
Estonia


Withdrawn Troops:

Italy
Ukraine
Spain
Japan
Thailand
Honduras
Dominican Republic
Hungary
Nicaragua
Singapore
Norway
Portugal
New Zealand
Philippines
Tonga
Iceland

[James 3528]

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/fullMaps_Eu.nsf/luFullMap/3986128910C24F50852569EC005E85B6/$File/massgraves.pdf?OpenElement

Read the fine print ...LOL

[James 3528]

1992?

Yawn.

This is about as relevant as your Clinton e-mail.More relevant than your quote from a UK PM that serve over 120 years ago that you think may equate to a modern day liberal of oh let's see, Ted Kennedy.

And a man of God I might add.

[chillbilly]

More relevant than your quote from a UK PM that serve over 120 years ago that you think may equate to a modern day liberal of oh let's see, Ted Kennedy.

And a man of God I might add.


LOL He's toast and he knows it.

[geerair]

We're on the same page, buffoon. We agree that Clinton LIED about the mass graves being as numerous they were. There were a few, for sure, but not enough to back his claims.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a383733326c5a.htmFreerepublic? This is your source? You might as well go all the way and use The John Birch Society Newsletter as your source.

http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/rotflol.gif






As far as your claim to no international support for Iraq, well, what exactly do YOU consider international, boy wonder? See below.Nothing was said about international support. International sanction by international bodies such as the UN.

As opposed to Kosovo which had Nato sanction, the optional invasion of Iraq had no sanction by an international body.






Multi-National Corps-Iraq Units

United States: 250,000 invasion--150,000 current
United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion--5,500 current
Poland: 194 invasion--2,500 peak--900 current
Australia: 2,000 invasion--638 current
Denmark: 300 invasion--460 current

TOTAL INVASION DEPLOYMENT, REGULAR TROOPS
297,494

Korea South Korea: 3,600 peak--1,200 current
Romania: 730 peak--405 current
Georgia: 500 troops--300 current
El Salvador: 380 troops
Czech Republic: 300 peak--89 current
Azerbaijan: 250 troops
Latvia: 136 peak--125 current
Mongolia: 180 peak--100 current
Albania: 120 troops
Lithuania: 120 peak--53 current
Armenia: 46 current
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 36 troops
Estonia: 35 current
Macedonia: 33 troops
Kazakhstan: 29 troops
Moldova: 24 peak--12 current
Bulgaria : 485 peak--155 current



NATO Training Mission - Iraq

Netherlands
Slovenia
Slovakia
Bulgaria
Hungary
Italy
Turkey
Romania
Lithuania
Estonia


Withdrawn Troops:

Italy
Ukraine
Spain
Japan
Thailand
Honduras
Dominican Republic
Hungary
Nicaragua
Singapore
Norway
Portugal
New Zealand
Philippines
Tonga
IcelandGee, Tonga dropped out?

[geerair]

Read the fine print ...LOLYeah, it says it may have misspelled some place names or the boundry lines may have changed.

That all you got? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[geerair]

More relevant than your quote from a UK PM that serve over 120 years ago that you think may equate to a modern day liberal of oh let's see, Ted Kennedy.

And a man of God I might add.That is your reply? You whine about my signature line? http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/rotflol.gif


Well at least you found out something you never knew before. Thanks to google you learned who Gladstone was. http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/woohoo.gif

[James 3528]

Yeah, it says it may have misspelled some place names or the boundry lines may have changed.

That all you got? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It sez you're a dope loud and clear. There are no body counts associated with it. The fine print at the bottom basically sez not to take it as fact. Sorta like we take you. Nice try.

[chillbilly]

It sez your a dope loud and clear. There are no body counts associated with it. The fine print at the bottom basically sez not to take it as fact. Sorta like we take you. Nice try.


You got that right. You gotta' love the way ole' storytelling Al get's to the meat and potatoes of it all in his oration.
The guy has come full circle just like the rest of the libs.

[geerair]

It sez your a dope loud and clear. There are no body counts associated with it. The fine print at the bottom basically sez not to take it as fact. Sorta like we take you. Nice try.Ahahahahahahah.

You would take it that way.

Nobody with more than a grade school education would take it that way. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Tool-Slinger]

That is your reply? You whine about my signature line? http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/rotflol.gif


Well at least you found out something you never knew before. Thanks to google you learned who Gladstone was. http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/woohoo.gif
First, let me say that european definitions of liberalism and conservatism vary in nature, as does mid 1800's definitions.

Now let me repeat some wikipedia things that I looked-up, with logical conclusions:

''in an accident while reloading a gun''
Gun owner? conservative, by modern USA standard.

''he pushed to extend the free trade liberalisations''
Republican issue, promoting free trade. republican by modern USA standard.

''founded the Church Penitentiary Association for the Reclamation of Fallen Women.''
Neither a modern USA liberal or domocrat would touch that one with a ten foot pole, via church/state seperation anxiety.

''tried to abolish the income tax.''
OKAY, now he is a FULL-BLOWN "Libertarian" or a member of the "Republic of Texas Revolutionary Militia". LOL!

''Gladstone succeeded in steadily reducing the income tax over the course of his tenure as Chancellor.''
President George W. Bush would be proud.

''he supported the independence of the Confederate States of America''
No opinion to add, just wanted to be sure you were aware of that.

'''said that he saw no reason in principle why all mentally able men could not be enfranchised, but admitted that this would only come about once the working-classes themselves showed more interest in the subject.'''
Sounds a tad like "pulling ones-self up by their boot-staps"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ewart_Gladstone

I only got half-way through the page, no need to continue.
You should find a more appropriate tag-line.
If you like, I can pick that apart, but more fair if you just get a more appropriate quote from a more appropriate person.

[geerair]

First, let me say that european definitions of liberalism and conservatism vary in nature, as does mid 1800's definitions.

Now let me repeat some wikipedia things that I looked-up, with logical conclusions:

''in an accident while reloading a gun''
Gun owner? conservative, by modern USA standard.

''he pushed to extend the free trade liberalisations''
Republican issue, promoting free trade. republican by modern USA standard.

''founded the Church Penitentiary Association for the Reclamation of Fallen Women.''
Neither a modern USA liberal or domocrat would touch that one with a ten foot pole, via church/state seperation anxiety.

''tried to abolish the income tax.''
OKAY, now he is a FULL-BLOWN "Libertarian" or a member of the "Republic of Texas Revolutionary Militia". LOL!

''Gladstone succeeded in steadily reducing the income tax over the course of his tenure as Chancellor.''
President George W. Bush would be proud.

''he supported the independence of the Confederate States of America''
No opinion to add, just wanted to be sure you were aware of that.

'''said that he saw no reason in principle why all mentally able men could not be enfranchised, but admitted that this would only come about once the working-classes themselves showed more interest in the subject.'''
Sounds a tad like "pulling ones-self up by their boot-staps"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ewart_Gladstone

I only got half-way through the page, no need to continue.
You should find a more appropriate tag-line.
If you like, I can pick that apart, but more fair if you just get a more appropriate quote from a more appropriate person.Truisms transcend both time and author.

If you are uncomfortable with the description of your view, then I can only suggest you change your view.

[Tool-Slinger]

OKIE-DOKIE!

'''''' Liberalism is a trust of the people tempered by prudence''''''''
trust of people, my arse!
Liberals do not trust people with guns, they want to allocate that to govornment officials.
Liberals do not trust people with profit, they want to allocate that to govornment officials.
Liberals do not trust people with free-speech, they want govornment to regulate hate-speech.
Liberals do not trust poeple with free speech, the want govornment to enforce a 'fairness-doctrine'.

[ga-hvac-tech]

You know, the most amazing thing about Geer is that he spins sooo much that he forgets what he does.

This is better than seeing the latest '24' or movie, all I have to do is come here and watch the 15+ conservatives that are mature enough to admit their mistakes; SMOKE the 3 resident liberals that are too proud to ever admit anything.

I wish I could figure out a way to sell tickets to this, it would make as much money as HVAC change-outs... :D

Question: Will Geer ever learn? Answer: someday, but only after there is nothing left of his smoked and fried behind.

[Tool-Slinger]

You know, the most amazing thing about Geer is that he spins sooo much that he forgets what he does.

This is better than seeing the latest '24' or movie, all I have to do is come here and watch the 15+ conservatives that are mature enough to admit their mistakes; SMOKE the 3 resident liberals that are too proud to ever admit anything.

I wish I could figure out a way to sell tickets to this, it would make as much money as HVAC change-outs... :D

Question: Will Geer ever learn? Answer: someday, but only after there is nothing left of his smoked and fried behind.
He is an EXPERT dodger!

[geerair]

OKIE-DOKIE!

'''''' Liberalism is a trust of the people tempered by prudence''''''''
trust of people, my arse!
Liberals do not trust people with guns, they want to allocate that to govornment officials.
Liberals do not trust people with profit, they want to allocate that to govornment officials.
Liberals do not trust people with free-speech, they want govornment to regulate hate-speech.
Liberals do not trust poeple with free speech, the want govornment to enforce a 'fairness-doctrine'.See...........was that so hard? ;) ;) ;)

[Tool-Slinger]

'''''''Truisms transcend both time and author. ;'';'''''''

GEER! YOU DANGED TROLL!

The entire point of my earlier post, "your truism was NOT a liberal"!

[Tool-Slinger]

Perhaps you are a closet conservative, but you are openly an agitator. You got me. LOL!

[bobby m]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=george+bush+teletubbies&hl=en

[geerair]

Perhaps you are a closet conservative, but you are openly an agitator. You got me. LOL!I'm Truth, Justice and the American Way. :cool:

[Tool-Slinger]

I'm Truth, Justice and the American Way. :cool:
You must be Glennacs' alternate personality!

[ga-hvac-tech]

I'm Truth, Justice and the American Way. :cool:

Only in your dreams there big boy...

[geerair]

You must be Glennacs' alternate personality!I was using that long before Glenn.

I'm a Rebel Doodle Dandy. :D

[Tool-Slinger]

Ancient political references aside,... You would make an exellent ancient general. You always turn the flank / move the front / change the issue or subject. Admirable skills. I'll bet you are a genious at chess or quake or something else. But you NEVER answer the refute. In an elaborated argument, you suffer a net loss of as disastorous degree.... You resort to quoting your enemies..... and even using themin your tag-lines...

[ga-hvac-tech]

Ancient political references aside,... You would make an exellent ancient general. You always turn the flank / move the front / change the issue or subject. Admirable skills. I'll bet you are a genious at chess or quake or something else. But you NEVER answer the refute. In an elaborated argument, you suffer a net loss of as disastorous degree.... You resort to quoting your enemies..... and even using themin your tag-lines...

And this is, IMO, why he would never show his face at an HVAC gathering... he knows he cannot hold his own without the annonymity of the internet.

I would like to see GEER opposite someone, following the accepted rules of debate, discuss one of his pet issues. I would wager that Geer would, yet again, get his behind handed to him, but this time in public.

However, I doubt it will ever happen because Geer would not attend. Oh well... A real man would relish the opportunity, Geer... well, uh, er, never mind... :rolleyes:

[scrogdog]

why he would never show his face at an HVAC gathering... he knows he cannot hold his own without the annonymity of the internet.

Geer is quite able to defend himself, but I don't think that is quite fair, GA.

Some people publicly speak better than they write. Others write better than they speak.

I have studied history and science since I was about 16. That means for 32 years, I have, for example, read about the same fronts, strategies and battles of WWII countless times from many different perspectives. From the common foot soldier to presidents, dictators and generals. From the allied perspective and from that of the enemy.

But you know what? If a certain piece of WWII comes up in discussion, I will STILL google it before speaking on it... even after 32 years. WWII is huge in scope and far-reaching in implication with regards to today's world. Sometimes I need to be reminded of things. I have probably forgotten more than I remember about WWII.

You only think that Geer is a pain in the rear because you have yet to experience me debate in real life. I am the sort that wins debates and loses friends. The written word is much better. I can read it over a few times and correct and massage the response, instead of emotionally popping off at my opponent.

Trust me, it's better this way. Lol. ;)

[ga-hvac-tech]

Geer is quite able to defend himself, but I don't think that is quite fair, CS.

Some people publicly speak better than they write. Others write better than they speak.

I have studied history and science since I was about 16. That means for 32 years, I have, for example, read about the same fronts, strategies and battles of WWII countless times from many different perspectives. From the common foot soldier to presidents, dictators and generals. From the allied perspective and from that of the enemy.

But you know what? If a certain piece of WWII comes up in discussion, I will STILL google it before speaking on it... even after 32 years. WWII is huge in scope and far-reaching in implication with regards to today's world. Sometimes I need to be reminded of things. I have probably forgotten more than I remember about WWII.

You only think that Geer is a pain in the rear because you have yet to experience me debate in real life. I am the sort that wins debates and loses friends. The written word is much better. I can read it over a few times and correct and massage the response, instead of emotionally popping off at my opponent.

Trust me, it's better this way. Lol. ;)

I hear what you are saying Scrog. And yes, I know I would not do well in a debate with you. I am more of a concept person than a fact recycler.

The reason I was picking on Geer in relation to debating is that in a real debate, he would be held accountable to answer questions. If he could not, he would suffer the consequences. That is what I would like to see...

And no, as a person I do not dis-like Geer. What I do not care for is his 'self-righteous' attitude. I think Geer is 'full of himself' and does not have a sense of humility. To my thinking (and observations), that sense of humility takes over the sense of 'me' as one matures. It will happen one day, but for now IMO he is a little high and mighty.

Having said that, I know I can be an A** at times, but at least I am willing to admit it publicly... not so with the other person. IMO that shows a character flaw. Just my opinion.

[scrogdog]

I am the sort that wins debates and loses friends.


I know I would not do well in a debate with you.

Don't be too sure of that, my friend.

I was not being complimentary to myself with the above quoted comment.

There are two ways to win a live debate.

One is that your opponent concedes.

The other is that your opponent stops talking and is red-faced with anger.

All depends on what you call "a win". :)

[ga-hvac-tech]

Don't be too sure of that, my friend.

I was not being complimentary to myself with the above quoted comment.

There are two ways to win a live debate.

One is, that your opponents concedes.

The other is that your opponent stops talking and is red-faced with anger.

All depends on what you call "a win". :)

I understand of what you speak there. I had a tendency to 'slice folks up' when I was younger, and paid the price for it (see below).

One of the things I do not care for in some folks is that they think it is cool to promote themselves by subtly (or not so subtly) slicing up their opponents in public. It is almost like they think it is sport... Not sure how they would like it of someone sliced them to the core and stood there laughing at them... "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"...

The latter of your 'wins' is what I would like Geer to suffer, in public... There is that part of me that just likes to see a self righteous person get their ego burst in public... probably because I had to suffer it many times growing up (for reasons that were mostly my fault)... taught me a few things about self examination...

Speaking of debating: I am single (again), and as such decided a long time ago to rent a room so I would not live alone. The gentleman that rents here is an engineer by trade and has multiple graduate degrees. He is a past president of the GA chapter of Mensa. He is a debator extrordinair (sp)!!! He also can get his head up his behind so far he has no idea what a fool he makes of himself... and he can really be difficult during those times. But in the bigger picture, the gentleman has a good heart and is trustworthy (proven over time).

BTW Scrog; are you planning on attending the convention in NC in August?

[scrogdog]

BTW Scrog; are you planning on attending the convention in NC in August?

Probably not this year. Work demands are just too great right now.

I may in the future. But I am not in the same part of the industry that most of you are, so I kind of view myself as an outsider looking in, so to speak. And, if it does occur, anyone that expects to see how I might fare in the realm of debate outside of these forums will be disapponted, I am afraid.

At best I might say that we'll discuss whatever the issue is here. This is something about myself that it took me a long time to learn - certain types of "victories" are not victories at all. Angry silence is not even close to concession.

[geerair]

Ancient political references aside,... You would make an exellent ancient general. You always turn the flank / move the front / change the issue or subject. Admirable skills. I'll bet you are a genious at chess or quake or something else. But you NEVER answer the refute. In an elaborated argument, you suffer a net loss of as disastorous degree.... You resort to quoting your enemies..... and even using themin your tag-lines...There you have it folks, more unsolicited praise.

Really, such flattery might turn a lesser man's head. ;)

[Tool-Slinger]

There you have it folks, more unsolicited praise.

Really, such flattery might turn a lesser man's head. ;)
Very skilled at evasion tactics, you have not made one valid point.

[geerair]

And this is, IMO, why he would never show his face at an HVAC gathering... he knows he cannot hold his own without the annonymity of the internet. I don't know about you but I would not make it a priority to debate at these gatherings. I would be there to drink beer and show my old lady off. Maybe get in a round or two of golf and check out the other hot wives.

Ga you sound like a stick in the mud buzz-killer. You might find yourself in a corner talking to yourself.



I would like to see GEER opposite someone, following the accepted rules of debate, discuss one of his pet issues. You should get out more. Take up a new hobby.





However, I doubt it will ever happen because Geer would not attend. Oh well... A real man would relish the opportunity, Geer... well, uh, er, never mind... :rolleyes:A real man would not waste his time debating the price of tea in China.

A real man would be drinking beer while scoping out the babes.

[geerair]

The reason I was picking on Geer in relation to debating is that in a real debate, he would be held accountable to answer questions. Bawhahahahahahahah.

I wonder if GA can read what he is typing? :p :p






but for now IMO he is a little high and mighty. With ample reason.





Having said that, I know I can be an A** at times, but at least I am willing to admit it publicly... not so with the other person. IMO that shows a character flaw. Just my opinion.Oh hell boy, I know I'm an ******* from way back. Just ask Scrog or James.

My big dread is becoming an ******* of your type.

[geerair]

Very skilled at evasion tactics, you have not made one valid point.I've made several exquisitely valid points.

That you have missed them reflects discredit on you rather than me. ;)