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newbeetech
05-16-2007, 02:05 PM
i was asked a good question, whats the diffrance between the distrubuter orfice and the txv , which one is the mettering device, i found a unit that did not have txv valve , or a any kind of crimmped orfice in the inlet of the unit, this unit is a in a house.
smokin68
05-16-2007, 02:55 PM
the txv adjusts according to evaporator conditions, the orifice does not, it's fixed, they're both metering devices.
kroberts38
05-16-2007, 02:57 PM
The TXV is the metering device. It regulates the superheat. The distribution orfice allows the refrigerant gas to be evenly shared through the evap coil.
dawgtchrr
05-16-2007, 09:11 PM
i found a unit that did not have txv valve , or a any kind of crimmped orfice in the inlet of the unit, this unit is a in a house.
You will have some type of "metering device" in every system. The TXV will control the amount of liquid entering the evaporator to control the amount of superheat at the outlet of the evaporator.
All other fixed metering devices operate in one degree or another as a pressure reducing device. If sized properly they will maintain an acceptable superheat under design conditions only.
As was mentioned before, if you're talking about the actual "distributor orifice" then it does not regulate the total flow but ensures that each circuit of the evaporator receives the same amount as the others.
lynn comstock
05-19-2007, 05:40 AM
Good answer Dawgtchrr. I have now idea what a "crimped orifice" is.
As you say, a distributer is not a metering device. It may have an orifice inside (such as Sporlan does). As you say, the distributer's fuction is to "distribute" an equal amount of refrigerant into each "circuit" of the indoor coil. Distribution problems happen and are a lot of fun to diagnose. Separates the men from the boys.
Lynn
beenthere
05-19-2007, 05:21 PM
Are you confusing distributor tubes, with capilary tubes.
Or an old Lennox unit that uses the LL for the metering device.
Steve Wiggins
05-20-2007, 10:43 AM
If you find one with no orfice at all then just squeeze the liquid line with a pair of channel locks until the pressures look ok. Then leave a little note that says, "you wanna hack? Then fine I can hack too".
newbeetech
05-20-2007, 01:31 PM
you mean one with out a metering device? like a txv valve, and the unit had 1/4 inch distrubuters but no metering device, but i think you have a point about squizing the liquid line till my psi look oky, mmm never thouth of that, i will try it, thank you
Mr Bill
05-20-2007, 01:40 PM
If you find one with no orfice at all then just squeeze the liquid line with a pair of channel locks until the pressures look ok. Then leave a little note that says, "you wanna hack? Then fine I can hack too".
Steve quit giving away all my trade secrets, I have a special pair of pliers that the squeeze adjustment will allow me squeeze the line from a 93 piston size down to a 54. :D
d_griff
05-20-2007, 01:46 PM
you mean one with out a metering device? like a txv valve, and the unit had 1/4 inch distrubuters but no metering device, but i think you have a point about squizing the liquid line till my psi look oky, mmm never thouth of that, i will try it, thank you
i wouldnt,i would bet you there is a metering device on the line just before the cap tubes or distributor..
what size is the liquid line?...when it enters the evap..what type of connectio is there
newbeetech
05-20-2007, 03:47 PM
very funny MRBILLPRO " special pliers" you really think i would ask you for the special pliers. h a ha ha, uuugggg oky oky , where can i get one? lo lo lo
beenthere
05-20-2007, 03:50 PM
very funny MRBILLPRO " special pliers" you really think i would ask you for the special pliers. h a ha ha, uuugggg oky oky , where can i get one? lo lo lo
I do have a special pliers I've used for that on acouple occasions.
chillbilly
05-20-2007, 03:56 PM
i was asked a good question, whats the diffrance between the distrubuter orfice and the txv , which one is the mettering device, i found a unit that did not have txv valve , or a any kind of crimmped orfice in the inlet of the unit, this unit is a in a house.
What you found was likely a capillary tube style metering system.
newbeetech
05-20-2007, 07:13 PM
no they were not cap tubes on a split system air handler in the closet or no cimped orifices, i think someone drop the ball, i really looked becouse i didnot wanted to look like a fool when my senior tech arived,
beenthere
05-20-2007, 08:28 PM
Ok, so how old was this unit, and what brand.
newbeetech
05-20-2007, 09:02 PM
well before i started with this comp, i;v been told that the techs were not that good and the superviser worst, they are all gone, i'v seen some of thier work and i tend to bilieve that they took alot of short cuts,
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