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coordinatesales
03-29-2007, 10:38 AM
So... who's really more green? Al Gore, the current darling of the media and Hollywood, who Sunday night received a hearty ovation as he presented an award, and who was featured in "An Inconvenient Truth," the Oscar-winning documentary in which Gore pleads with Americans to save energy by reducing the amount of electricity they use at home?

Or... George Bush?

Seems a silly comparison at first, but maybe not. The Tennessee (http://www.associatedcontent.com/theme/675/tennessee.html) Center for Policy Research has found that what Gore deserves more than a gold statuette is a lesson from the current President of the United States.

Located in the Belle Meade neighborhood of Nashville, Gore's mansion turns out to be a real drain on the area's power grid. It seems that Al Gore consumes more electricity in one month than the average American family does in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service.

According to the Department of Energy, the average American household consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year. By comparison, Gore used more than 20 times that - a whopping 220,000 kWh - in 2006.

Even more amazing, last August Gore consumed 22,619 kWh, an astonishing two times as much - in one month - than that same average American family uses in a year. As a result of that consumption, Gore footed an average monthly electric bill of $1,359.

During the time since "An Inconvenient Truth" was released, of course, Al Gore must have lowered his energy consumption. Right? It's what he's telling all of us to do. Well... maybe not. From 2005 to 2006, Gore's average energy consumption jumped from 16,200 kWh per month to 18.400 kWh.

Not a lot of cutting back, Al. Definitely not a good example for those of us trying to take our cues from you.

On the other hand, we have George Bush. Surely the man constantly accused of being in bed with the anti-environmentalist, pro-oil lobbyists would have a house made to use up even more resources than Gore, correct?

Again... maybe not.

In an article first published in the Chicago (http://www.associatedcontent.com/theme/244/chicago.html) Tribune in 2001, Rob Sullivan describes Bush's 4,000-square-foot home near Crawford, Texas (http://www.associatedcontent.com/theme/836/texas.html) thusly:

Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.

A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers (http://www.associatedcontent.com/theme/785/flowers.html) native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.

http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-on-al-gore-story.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/162671/the_inconvenient_truth_about_al_gores.html?page=2

This is great stuff! Funny how you don't hear about this stuff in the mainstream media. Oh yeah, this is positive news about Bush, the media doesn't dare report that. Bush is remarkably green and doesn't feel the need to brag about it. He just does it.

glennac
03-29-2007, 01:19 PM
http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-on-al-gore-story.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/162671/the_inconvenient_truth_about_al_gores.html?page=2

This is great stuff! Funny how you don't hear about this stuff in the mainstream media. Oh yeah, this is positive news about Bush, the media doesn't dare report that. Bush is remarkably green and doesn't feel the need to brag about it. He just does it.

Good post sales, But no way someone like geer could handle that. Black is White and White is Black. Gore is a saint above reproach and Bush is the devil no matter what subject or comparison. All national Democratic politicons are above reproach and all Republicans are less than human. There is nothing in the world that a Democrat can do wrong but just the opposite for a Republican. I see a lot of fault in Bush but he is far ahead of the current crop of Dems. I won't even mention wen, he is just pure hate of all but radical Dems.

oloenneker
03-30-2007, 01:23 AM
well, considering the source of the information for this comes from The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, which we all know is:


Tennessee Center for Policy Research (TCPR) describes itself as "an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research and educational institute dedicated to providing concerned citizens, the media and public leaders with expert research and timely free market policy solutions to public policy issues in Tennessee." [1]

TCPR is "part of the right's State Policy Network," according to People for the American Way, egalia wrote at the Tennessee Guerilla Women Blogspot, February 27, 2007:

"SPN is a national network of state-based right-wing organizations in 37 states as well as prominent nationwide right-wing organizations. Through its network SPN advances the public policy ideas of the expansive right-wing political movement on the state and local level." [2]
Additionally, according to the Tennessee Department of Revenue, TCPR is "not a legitimate organization." [3]


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tennessee_Center_for_Policy_Resear ch

So, it would seem that there is a right wing attempt to downplay and redirect the issue, or in other word, spin...


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Don't they ever get dizzy?

coordinatesales
03-30-2007, 09:24 AM
Okay, the source is from the right but what about the article is inaccurate?

coordinatesales
03-30-2007, 10:49 AM
And of course, the obligatory link to snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/politics//bush/house.asp

TRUE

ralphtheplumber
03-30-2007, 03:51 PM
what about the article is inaccurate?
Do I hear crickets?

mrs reb77
03-30-2007, 04:20 PM
well, considering the source of the information for this comes from The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, which we all know is:


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tennessee_Center_for_Policy_Resear ch

So, it would seem that there is a right wing attempt to downplay and redirect the issue, or in other word, spin...


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Don't they ever get dizzy?


Ok, how about another source.
http://edc.uoregon.edu/node/572


And this would be the information from the guy that designed the house:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Heymann