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chillbilly

03-02-2007, 10:32 PM

Hell. We don't need our armed forces.... we have all you guys who know where he is and how to do it.......
Go be the hero that you think you are.Make us all proud..
More Monday morning quarterbacking...:o

Ummmmm, NO. Did you watch the video? It's not a discussion about strategy.
The focal point of the video points to the fact that a highly ranked and respected operative is directly refuting Bill Clinton's assertion that he tried to kill OBL.
Maybe you missed the memo...He's directly contradicting Clinton and blatantly calling him a liar.

Imagine that........... Bill Clinton...........lying.1022

hvactech13

03-02-2007, 10:40 PM

Hell. We don't need our armed forces.... we have all you guys who know where he is and how to do it.......
Go be the hero that you think you are.Make us all proud...
More Monday morning quarterbacking...:o

Gee, what I saw on that video suggested to me that Mr Bill not only knew where Bin Laden was he was too much of a coward to order the elimination of a known terrorist (which might have averted 9-11-2001):rolleyes:

I could be wrong though:D

chillbilly

03-02-2007, 10:44 PM

Gee, what I saw on that video suggested to me that Mr Bill not only knew where Bin Laden was he was too much of a coward to order the elimination of a known terrorist (which might have averted 9-11-2001):rolleyes:

I could be wrong though:D

LOL
He even enlisted ole' Sandy Berger to try and hide incriminating documents that would have indicated as much.
Word is on the street that a couple of the documents they retrieved out of Sandy's ass had hash marks on them.

James 3528

03-02-2007, 11:05 PM

Gee, what I saw on that video suggested to me that Mr Bill not only knew where Bin Laden was he was too much of a coward to order the elimination of a known terrorist (which might have averted 9-11-2001):rolleyes:

I could be wrong though:DI expected a more intelligent spin hovering around stupid from one or two of them, but I got stupid on parade.

hvactech13

03-02-2007, 11:28 PM

I expected a more intelligent spin hovering around stupid from one or two of them, but I got stupid on parade.

If seeing that the lack of a spine caused a known threat to the Nation to walk away, for fear of "possibly" injuring innocent bystanders, which ultimately led to death of thousands of innocents places me in the stupid parade then stupid I are. :(

Forgive me for my ignorance.:D

James 3528

03-02-2007, 11:40 PM

I was talking about Spinknoker and Poop dog

chillbilly

03-02-2007, 11:41 PM

He knows. He's very good at sarcasm :D :D :D :D

geerair

03-02-2007, 11:42 PM

http://www.deletehillary.com/killbill.html

Pay attention to Michael Scheuer and await the Geer smearI have no need to smear Scheuer.

The 9/11 commission has already assessed his credibility on this issue and found it wanting.

Next.

chillbilly

03-02-2007, 11:49 PM

I have no need to smear Scheuer.
The 9/11 commission has already assessed his credibility on this issue and found it wanting.
Next.

Next?? LOL Hardly. greer, you're a liar and a cheap assed liar at that. "Found it wanting" What an *******.
Just what does "found it wanting" indicate??
The 9/11 commission cannot and did not possess, nor have they ever provided any evidence that can refute what Mike Scheuer has noted.
Read the commission's report before you fall for this half-assed, dim-witted attempt to discount the information he's provided.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scheuer

Scheuer describes his thesis this way: "Imperial Hubris is overwhelmingly focused on how the last several American presidents have been very ill-served by the senior leaders of the Intelligence Community. Indeed, I resigned from an Agency I love in order to publicly damn the feckless 9/11 Commission, which failed to find any personal failure or negiligence among Intelligence Community leaders even though dozens of serving officers provided the commissioners with clear documentary evidence of that failure."

Next

hvactech13

03-02-2007, 11:53 PM

I was talking about Spinknoker and Poop dog

Belay my last! :D

James 3528

03-03-2007, 07:46 AM

Next?? LOL Hardly. greer, you're a liar and a cheap assed liar at that. "Found it wanting" What an *******.
Just what does "found it wanting" indicate??
The 9/11 commission cannot and did not possess, nor have they ever provided any evidence that can refute what Mike Scheuer has noted.
Read the commission's report before you fall for this half-assed, dim-witted attempt to discount the information he's provided.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scheuer

Scheuer describes his thesis this way: "Imperial Hubris is overwhelmingly focused on how the last several American presidents have been very ill-served by the senior leaders of the Intelligence Community. Indeed, I resigned from an Agency I love in order to publicly damn the feckless 9/11 Commission, which failed to find any personal failure or negiligence among Intelligence Community leaders even though dozens of serving officers provided the commissioners with clear documentary evidence of that failure."

Next

Yes, Geer found a new word. Add it to his bullshi+ list where snopes, myth, singularity expansion, rock formations and "I am a Independent" is.

Scheuer is mentioned on page 4 of the 911 report by first name only
In the 9/11 Commission Report, Scheuer is featured in Chapter 4, where his name is given only as "Mike". He is portrayed as occasionally frustrated with his superiors' failure to aggressively target bin Laden. Wikipedia.

So where are the other Hillary butt babies on this?

The Doctor

03-03-2007, 08:44 AM

that was fun, james. I'd never seen the fox interview or the knee-jabbing, heard about it alot. it's okay to get upset if you're a liberal superhero. ;)
who can't pull the trigger.

hillary is going to have to get on the lecture circuit after her presi bid goes down in flames. she'll probably quit the presi bid early if she sees the writing on the wall so she won't have to lose the Senate seat.:(

James 3528

03-03-2007, 08:56 AM

Old liberals never go away...they just smell dead.

geerair

03-03-2007, 12:27 PM

Yes, Geer found a new word. Add it to his bullshi+ list where snopes, myth, singularity expansion, rock formations and "I am a Independent" is.

Scheuer is mentioned on page 4 of the 911 report by first name only Wikipedia. Yeah, Scheuer testified and the commission regarded his testimony on this issue as not credible.

The only people buying Scheuer's myths are the rightwignuts who have enormous credibility issues of their own.

Larry Johnson former CIA and State Department Counterterrorism Officer: " I personally think Scheuer is completely full of sh!t."

chillbilly

03-03-2007, 04:25 PM

geerair;1395806]Yeah, Scheuer testified and the commission regarded his testimony on this issue as not credible.
Where? Where is his testimony charachterized as "not credible".
Those are your words, dumbass...not the commission's.
In fact, you're indicating that the investigators attempted to discredit his testimony which they didn't. They viewed him as disgruntled.
Only in the mind of a libtard in denial who is attempting to discredit a soource known to have been privvy to inner workings and attempts to isolate OBL, would this information be conveyed as "not credible"
Why not show us all where you find the commission indicating this? Can you?
No, you can't. Because it's not there.

The only people buying Scheuer's myths are the rightwignuts who have enormous credibility issues of their own.
Yeah sure idiot. The only people attempting to deny his reports are those looking to cover up the facts about Clinton and his lies.
No doubt you fit snugly in there. Independent, my ass.

Larry Johnson former CIA and State Department Counterterrorism Officer: " I personally think Scheuer is completely full of sh!t."
LOL greer trots out a quote from someone, anyone who didn't like Scheuer and this is supposed to suffice as evidence. Sheesh. Pitiful.
Personal opinions from libtards and former officers are as cheap as your rhetoric and are not included in the commission's findings.
Read the book. If you find something in it that refutes Mike Scheur's claims, trot it on out here.

Otherwise, you're the one that's full of sh!t........................AGAIN.

sline-dawg

03-03-2007, 05:32 PM

Ummmmm, NO. Did you watch the video?

Nice non-bias website there, by the way....;) Tin would be proud of you James....

Looks like a no win situation for whoever has to make the call.Let him walk and you're labeled a pussy.... go after him and you're a deceptive womanizer....

Despite a long investigation by American and Yemeni authorities there is still no conclusive proof that Bin Laden ordered the attack but there is a growing body of circumstantial evidence - particularly in the number of links to other incidents that Bin Laden is accused of orchestrating: the 1998 embassy bombing in east Africa, the foiled millennium plot and the September 11 attacks in the US.

James 3528

03-03-2007, 05:43 PM

Yeah, testified and the commission regarded his testimony on this issue as not credible.

The only people buying myths are the rightwignuts who have enormous credibility issues of their own.

Larry Johnson former CIA and State Department Officer: " I personally think is completely full of sh!t."
It is not relevant what Johnson thinks, in terms of this subject he was out of the loop. Gone. Nice try, no cigar. Why not tell us what another democrat blogger hack thinks?

chillbilly

03-03-2007, 05:45 PM

It was an interview. Ya' know, your beloved libtard media asking questions and getting responses?? Nothing bias at all about a question and answer session. :rolleyes:
The guy calls slick wille a liar and the only people who refute the fact that Clinton was a habitual liar can be found here...... on ARP

:D :D :D

geerair

03-03-2007, 05:54 PM

It is not relevant what Johnson thinks, in terms of this subject he was out of the loop. Gone. Nice try, no cigar. Why not tell us what another democrat blogger hack thinks?Ummmmmm.......Johnson is a registered Republican.

sline-dawg

03-03-2007, 05:54 PM

desto1

03-03-2007, 06:00 PM

when hillary drops out of the race i wonder if she will refer to american liberals as sh!t kickers trailer trash and rednecks

chillbilly

03-03-2007, 06:05 PM

Cut and paste and looped from his interview with Chris Wallace......Michael has his opinion of what he thinks..... but he wasn't in the hot seat (presidency) was he ???
Kinda like someone who works for you thinking they know what you should have done different on that job.....:eek:
AFTER THE FACT.

Wrong. Mike Scheuer is not giving opinions. He is giving facts as it relates to his personal and professional experiences while working for the agency that received orders from Clinton.
What part of that don't you understand? He was there.

You guys go to any length to defend a lying, corrupt admin that has attempted to suppress evidence pre-9/11, while you gladly accuse the current admin of being the problem.
One need only to look at the dates, the 9/11 commission reports, the testimony and the statements made by Clinton himself to get a clear picture of who is really responsible for 9/11 and why OBL is still breathing.
Your boy let him go. He couldn't pull the trigger. He was worried about the shells hitting a Mosque.

LOL

Priceless

geerair

03-03-2007, 06:17 PM

Cut and paste and looped from his interview with Chris Wallace......Michael has his opinion of what he thinks..... but he wasn't in the hot seat (presidency) was he ???

Kinda like someone who works for you thinking they know what you should have done different on that job.....:eek:

AFTER THE FACT.Yeah, ABC even had to edit a scene in their drama "Path To 9/11" which was based on one of Scheuer's tales because it was fabricated. :rolleyes:

After the 9/11 dismissed Scheuer ramblings, he became an embittered hack with uncorroborated stories to peddle. The only takers were the Paragons of Rightwingnut Drivel, the Moonie Times, Worldnut Daily, NewsMax and certain hysterical wingnut blogs. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Nobody else with even a grain of credibility would touch Scheuer.

sline-dawg

03-03-2007, 06:19 PM

You think if Osama had been killed that everything would be rosy today????? No 9-11 ?

chillbilly

03-03-2007, 06:38 PM

sline-dawg;1396065]You think if Osama had been killed that everything would be rosy today?????
No, my friend. I do not. I have the current president to thank for helpng me to understand the mentality of our enemies in the ME.
It's funny that you would ask that question though since there isn't a day that goes by when we witness greer and other libs on this forum using the "Osama remains uncaptured" line as if it were the current admin's fault.
Let's put things in perspective here. If anyone ought to be accepting responsibility for OBL and planned attacks against our country, it should be Bill Clinton. But why would we expect him to admit anything?
He couldn't even tell the truth about blowing his jizz all over a little girl.
Or Vince Foster. Or Whitewater. Or Travelgate. Or filegate. Or CFR. Or Waco.
Or Elian Gonzalez. Or Chinese and the Lincoln Bedroom..........

No 9-11 ?
Terrorists are determined to attack. They will continue to attack. 9/11 was a plan that would have happened regardless. There will be more attacks.
I believe that the best strategy is to take large scale battles to the regions where these bastards live.
I don't subscribe to no fly zones and diplomacy with terrorists.
And I sure as hell don't believe it's a law enforcement issue.

James 3528

03-03-2007, 07:07 PM

Ummmmmm.......Johnson is a registered Republican.

Johnson says he received commendations for his work at the CIA, but he takes a more modest tone than one might expect. “I don’t represent myself to be Mr. Counterterrorism Guru,” he says. “I get introduced as the deputy director of counterterrorism at the State Department. But my full title was deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations. In Washington, the longer your title, the less important you are, and I had a really long title.”

Your guys a nobody. The left loves him because he says what they like to hear. His time at the CIA had nothing to do with the Middle East.

geerair

03-03-2007, 07:16 PM

Your guys a nobody. The left loves him because he says what they like to hear. His time at the CIA had nothing to do with the Middle East.Let's see, transportation security-airplanes, trains, highways, ships........sounds pretty important to me.

Antiterrorism-fighting terrorism........sounds pretty important to me.

special op-missions to kill terrorists........sounds really important to me.

State Department-Whoa one the biggies in the government-Very, very important.

Nothing to do with the ME? Isn't that where you claim the terrorists are?

Johnson was in charge of anti-terrorism and special ops

State Department hmmmm.......deals with foreign matters.

You see to have little or no concept of the words "nobody" and "nothing"

sline-dawg

03-03-2007, 07:16 PM

. If anyone ought to be accepting responsibility for OBL and planned attacks against our country, it should be Bill Clinton. But why would we expect him to admit anything?

Terrorists are determined to attack. They will continue to attack. 9/11 was a plan that would have happened regardless. There will be more attacks.
I believe that the best strategy is to take large scale battles to the regions where these bastards live.
I don't subscribe to no fly zones and diplomacy with terrorists.
And I sure as hell don't believe it's a law enforcement issue.

No bud, they will hate us no matter who is our elected leader.
It's easy to put the blame on the predecessor, you know ....pass the buck:mad:

Why do we have to place the blame????????????????????

I don't believe it is our fault.......( slight bias)

James 3528

03-03-2007, 07:20 PM

Let's see, transportation security-airplanes, trains, highways, ships........sounds pretty important to me.

Antiterrorism-fighting terrorism........sounds pretty important to me.

special op-missions to kill terrorists........sounds really important to me.

State Department-Whoa one the biggies in the government-Very, very important.

Nothing to do with the ME? Isn't that where you claim the terrorists are?

Johnson was in charge of anti-terrorism and special ops

State Department hmmmm.......deals with foreign matters.

You see to have little or no concept of the words "nobody" and "nothing"

Keep fluffing..his time in intel dealt with South America. And that was over 20 years ago. Maybe you haven't figured it out yet, but he was part of the Clinton failure to execute and destroy the threat. But then you possible aren't the Independent you bill yourself out to be either.

geerair

03-03-2007, 07:28 PM

Keep fluffing..his time in intel dealt with South America. And that was over 20 years ago. Maybe you haven't figured it out yet, but he was part of the Clinton failure to execute and destroy the threat. But then you possible aren't the Independent you bill yourself out to be either.Fluffing? those were his responsibilities.

You said so yourself.

not my problem you shot yourself in the foot again. :rolleyes:

James 3528

03-03-2007, 07:32 PM

Find some that isn't selling a book dead or worked night security at Langley for a change.

hvactech13

03-03-2007, 10:20 PM

You think if Osama had been killed that everything would be rosy today????? No 9-11 ?

No. Things wouldn't be rosy today, look at the constant fighting between Isreal and the PLO, somewhere in the world their would be people killing other people. It's human nature sorry to say. Some people are only capable of violence against those they don't agree with shich then begets violence upon them. 9/11/2001 may not have happened, it might have become 9/11/2003, 04, 05, etc.