This war in Iraq its like its never gonna end?

[AirComfortMecha]

:confused: This war in Iraq its like its never gonna end?

[HOT SHOT]

We're still in Japan, Korea, Germany, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc. Why must we hurry up and leave? We are not engaged in combat with the afore mentioned countries, but we didn't get where we are in them by with drawing. If you think there's not hostilities in those afore mentioned countries, you're mistaken. For example; South Korea often has protests that turn violent close to the U.S. embassy, perpotrated by a younger crowd who is not old enough to remember the oppression from the North, and see the U.S. as an outside power that keeps the country seperated. Propaganda from the North is effective on the young of the South, and has created a 'unification movement'. My point is, you can't just waltz into a country and expect everything to be fine and dandy so quick. The Dems know this too, they know how it works and what's going on in all those other countries. They also know how long it took in each individual case to accomplish what we have in those places. But it doesn't stop them from instituting there own propaganda on our young (and unreasonable) and impressionable. And it works! But we can take comfort knowing that the young will grow up, and the unreasonable are few.

[Harleyrider]

When was the last time one of our men was killed in "Japan, Korea, Germany, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc" Just for being an American ? I did service in Korea and Germany and I never once felt threatened as I freely walked the streets.

[acmanko]

there is no war in Iraq, it is an occupation, learn the difference

[coolwhip]

This isnt a war, its a conflict. When we start loosing 20,000 guys a week, then its a war.:rolleyes:

[acmanko]

when every 18 year old in the country registers for a draft , then it's war.

[HOT SHOT]

When was the last time one of our men was killed in "Japan, Korea, Germany, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc" Just for being an American ? I did service in Korea and Germany and I never once felt threatened as I freely walked the streets.

I think you missed the whole point of my post, which is, it took time for things to get the way they are in Japan, Korea, etc. it didn't happen over night. You where in Korea when? I bet it wasn't during the conflict, but rather years later after things cooled down. You just prooved my point for me. We should have a much bigger show of force for years to come before we start phasing out of the country. Listen to the generals and give them what they need to crush the opposition, and keep that same powerful force there for years after so the skirmishs are fewer and farther between, then you start bringin' the boys home and only keeping the force there that's necissary to keep the peace. Before you can keep the peace you have to have the peace.

[glennac]

:confused: This war in Iraq its like its never gonna end?

Don't knock it, it's the only one we got.:D :D :D

[tinknocker44]

Your not going to win a war with no plan. The pugs believe whatever they are told, no thought process of their own. Now some say we are there for the long haul like that was the plan all along. They also believed in 03 that we would be greeted with flowers and only be there 6 weeks. I guess its just easier to go through life like that.

[obxdist]

I did service in Korea and Germany and I never once felt threatened as I freely pedaled the streets.[/QUOTE]

That is because you fell off yor scooter !!!

[refrigeration mafia]

Iraq was just the beginning.

The war is about to spread to Iran.

We currently occupy the Iraqi oil reserves and when we invade Iran we will double our oil reserves, effectivly controlling the worlds oil supply.

Iran is due to stop trading oil for dollars on March 21st.

When that happens it will be WWIII, because Russia and China aren't too keen about the US controlling the worlds oil.

[MikeJ]

There's a lot more to staying around in a country (Europe, Japan, Korea,), than meets the eye. To keep communists out? Perhaps, but there must be more. Has to do with economics and permanancy. Think of all the $$$ we pour into the local and national coffers. And, that is just what the GI's spend.

As for the new WAR, it is like no others. \The enemies of peace are the enemies of Christ. They will never quit. They will never sit at a peace table.
They will never ever show themselves outright. They hide and hide well.

They want to be the dominant force in the universe. Allah leads them.

They are like cockroaches, once you get them you have to tear the house apart to root them out.

[dna]

You guys have just gotta have a little faith................this whole thing is gonna turn right around !!

[geerair]

That's right, just because all previous corner turnings failed, all previous surges failed doesn't mean that throwing more lives and treasure at the problem won't solve it.

[The Doctor]

it's been past high time that Americans rethink the whole 'let's police the whole world because they owe it to capitalism. http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20070301-104826-2978r.htm
I thought it worth sharing that when we stick our noses into other's business, they don't like it very much.
Sure, most places quiet down when our $$$$ flow into their country, but where in the U.S. Constitution under the part about "regulate commerce" do we find that we must arbitrate and enforce the world over?
The U.N. is a failure at arbitrating and enforcing, that's old news.
But how about some protectionist and isolationist tendencies on our part for a change??
Let the chips fall where they may. People have this ability to stand or fall, maybe we should let 'em.

[chillbilly]

Sure we stick our noses in other nation's business, especially when it's in our best interest to do so.
We are a part of a global economy. Our interests around the globe dictate what we decide will help us and other countries.
What superpower doesn't? China has over 800 billion dollars invested in Iran for future gas and oil interests alone. Russia's economy is greatly improved due to their interest in helping oil rich nations with arms and technology.

Survey the structure of the UN.
How can they legislate world conflicts and resolutions with their current system?
Veto power for the 5 nations that hold it means that any resolutions that are brought forth for adoption can be shot down with a single veto.
In the future, more nations will have technologies that can only lead to more threats.
We are on the wrong end if we try to fight against gathering threats alone.
Manifest destiny is dead. It isn't the issue.
We now find ourselves attempting to preserve a certain type of world order.
Impossible.

[The Doctor]

right on, right on.. and the hinge in the statement was "investing". I'm all for it, up to and including starting a carbon footprint business to assuage the heavy consciences of liberals everywhere. :D but the U.S. presence in the countries such as Korea, Germany, and ....(i;ll try to refrain from including ALL other countries)--maybe some have strategic or logistic value. now we're in the business of protecting ourselves with actions in an area where these people have been murdering each other for a he-- of a long time and does it ever end?
in spite of the classification of these current conflicts as asymetrical, I wish we would pull back from this last area where the nut case bomb throwers are and turn it into a glass highway. either that or take all the bomb throwers in gitmo, line em up like Pershing did 100 or so years ago, webcast their executions with pig-blood drenched bullets, and say come and get it, bomb throwers, you want some more? I wouldn't let the last one go though. Then I'd do the glass highway to the triangle thing . That's just me and the ditchwater speaking though:p
that would hamper the investment part of the equation for a while for our interests, no? but as Abe Lincoln once said, this too shall pass.

[2cool4us]

Iraq was just the beginning.

The war is about to spread to Iran.

We currently occupy the Iraqi oil reserves and when we invade Iran we will double our oil reserves, effectivly controlling the worlds oil supply.

Iran is due to stop trading oil for dollars on March 21st.

When that happens it will be WWIII, because Russia and China aren't too keen about the US controlling the worlds oil.
With a back handed slap, it will happen this way. GROW UP!! To maintain national security and global stability it has to happen.