Tales From The Crypt

[royc]

Jesus: Tales From The Crypt
Posted by Tim McGirk
2-24-7


Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main fou ndation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: <http://israelitybites.blogspot.com/>Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.

[Harleyrider]

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.


Just how did they know it was 2000 years old? And do you think that out of the millions of people buried 2000 years ago that there was only 10 people with those names?:rolleyes: Sorry.........to far fetched for me.........but its always good reading at bed time.:rolleyes:

[royc]

Not anymore far fetched then the shroud if Turin.


Roy

[RoBoTeq]

Atheists and anti-Christian entities have been trying to make this claim stick ever since Jesus rose from the dead and walked away from his tomb only to be witnessed by many and then be witnessed ascending into heaven.

Its a matter of faith; you either got it or you know absolutely nothing for certain.

[chillbilly]

Robo is correct. It is a matter of faith regardless of how far you think your intellect can take you.
It ought to be fun watching the atheists come out of the woodwork to tell everyone how great Cameron is though.
After sleeping through Titanic, this "documentary" will probably be filed away under the Spaghetti Westerns and Reagan's B-Movies.

[bootlen]

Never mind the thousands who preferred death to denying it happened. A lot was at stake...their current lives and eternity.

[roymcoy]

"Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests ... belong to Jesus and his family"

DNA tests??? Even if it proved the bodies were related to each other, how does that show that one of them was Jesus? Do they claim to have a certified DNA sample from him? Modern day descendents? Give me a break.

[glennac]

Not anymore far fetched then the shroud if Turin.


Roy


I have seen the documentary on the Shroud of Turin and it sure past enough tests to convience all but geer of course only geer can talk to geer

[bootlen]

I never heard of the Jacobivici guy but Cameron is in the fiction business.

[glennac]

x

[coolwhip]

Jesus told me that he didnt ascend into heaven, it was a large hand that grabed him by his hippie hair that pulled him up.:eek:

[bootlen]

Jesus told me that he didnt ascend into heaven, it was a large hand that grabed him by his hippie hair that pulled him up.:eek:

You shouldn't spend so much time it CVS.

[coolwhip]

You shouldn't spend so much time it CVS.

Hehehe.:D

[geerair]

I have seen the documentary on the Shroud of Turin and it sure past enough tests to convience all but geer of course only geer can talk to geerWhy the hell drag me into this nonsense when I wasn't about to comment on it in the first place? :confused:

Athough........ long as I'm here.......................


The Shroud of Turin is fake

The James Ossuary is fake

The Cameron film is probably fake but then Cameron is a filmaker and he saw what big box office the Da Vinci Code brought in so he figures to cash in on the jesus craze.

The cretins will undoubtedly flock to the theaters to watch this tripe while the jesus crowd will provide free publicity by vociferously defending their myth and condemning the movie and Cameron will laugh while trying to find enough trucks to haul his film's profits to the bank.

[roymcoy]

Listen to Geer - he knows what he's talking about. The shroud has been proven to be a fake. The film will only be about creating a controversy to make money. Unfortunately not a new idea and not the last one that will be made. I think it was P.T. Barnum who said something like "you'll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the people."

[coolwhip]

Hey guys, too some folks it is real and part of their belief, to others it isnt. No big deal, they can still give you a blood transfusion if you need it.

[geerair]

Hey guys, too some folks it is real and part of their belief, to others it isnt. No big deal, they can still give you a blood transfusion if you need it.If they need forgeries and fakes to prop up their beliefs then they should take a long hard look at their religious convictions.

[coolwhip]

Im not an advocate of christianity however, I have friends that are religious and that are christians. They think that I am going to hell because Im not a christian, but their still my friends. All I want to know is, are you kind?

[geerair]

Im not an advocate of christianity however, I have friends that are religious and that are christians. They think that I am going to hell because Im not a christian, but their still my friends.
All I want to know is, are you kind?To whom?

[coolwhip]

Everybody you meet and that is kind to you.

[chillbilly]

To whom?

LOL To someone.......anyone.....anyone?? Other than yourself.
:D :D :D

[chillbilly]

geerair;1390079]Why the hell drag me into this nonsense when I wasn't about to comment on it in the first place? :confused:

Yeah sure.

greer "wasn't going to be dragged into this nonsense", nevertheless here he is taking another gratuitous shot at anything religious that he can get his grubbly little lying hands on.

I told you the cockroaches would come out of the woodwork.

Exhibit A from Cockroach I

[tonys]

Never mind the thousands who preferred death to denying it happened. A lot was at stake...their current lives and eternity.

eternity...

muahhahahaahhaaa


try worm-food, numb-y.

[chillbilly]

Exhibit B, Cockroach II

[tonys]

chilli's deep thoughts.

(not quite)

[chillbilly]

Exhibit C, Cockroach II

[tonys]

boner-bill, is that You?

how did they let you out?

[chillbilly]

I've got your boner pally.



dial 1-900-ben-zine

[tonys]

still waiting for the porn-link, dumb-a$$


...wait'n...wait'n.

boner-bill???

[chillbilly]

Waiting? You're denying that you had a website address directly linked to a porn site? Either you removed it or it was removed for you, not sure which.

Like I said before, if you're denying it, you're a liar.

[geerair]

Everybody you meet and that is kind to you.I operate on the Confucian reciprocity system so yes, I am kind to people that are kind to me.

[bootlen]

eternity...

muahhahahaahhaaa


try worm-food, numb-y.

Left yer ladder at home again?

[coordinatesales]

In 1996, when the British Broadcasting Corp. aired a short documentary on the same subject, archaeologists challenged the claims. Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television.
"They just want to get money for it," Kloner said.


http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Feb26/0,4670,JesusapossBurial,00.html


Scientists are now weighing in. Most say what a load of crap. These burial boxes were from a middle class Jerusalem family of the First Century and — hold on to your hats, kids — these were very common names. Jesus, Mary, Joseph and Judah. Common names.
What's really going on here is making money. Jesus sells big these days, especially anything debunking 2,000 years of the history of Jesus Christ.
So Dan Brown makes millions with the "Da Vinci Code (javascript:siteSearch('Da Vinci Code');)" saying Jesus had a daughter. Now someone else is going for the gold saying Jesus had a son.
There's a certain symmetry here, wouldn't you say?


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254783,00.html



The first archeologist to examine the site says it doesn't meet standards. This has been crap since the beginning. Its all about money.

[geerair]

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Feb26/0,4670,JesusapossBurial,00.html



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254783,00.html



The first archeologist to examine the site says it doesn't meet standards. This has been crap since the beginning. Its all about money.No doubt there is a buttload of money to be made here.

[chillbilly]

No doubt there is a buttload of money to be made here.

Yeah, and no doubt it will be made by Hollywood producers and quack science.

[coordinatesales]

When 'scientific' evidence is announced by tv crews and filmakers instead of scientists, watch out!

[royc]

When 'scientific' evidence is announced by tv crews and filmakers instead of scientists, watch out!


The question then is to ask some of you, if it was to be proven that such find was possible.

What then??


Roy

[coordinatesales]

The question then is to ask some of you, if it was to be proven that such find was possible.

What then??


Roy

Due to my faith, I don't believe such a thing is possible but just suppose for a moment that irrefutable scientific evidence showed this WAS the body of Jesus. That would certainly call in question my beliefs since I do believe the Bible is the infallible word of God (albeit translated by fallible humans). I also believe in the physical resurrection. I would still believe though because I have seen my savior's actions in my life. I have seen the way my life changed when I accepted Jesus as my savior. I have felt comforted during the loss of my infant daughter. I have felt joy when doing his work on mission building outhouses in the Dominican Republic. I have felt his power when teaching a sunday school class about a subject that I am woefully inadequate teaching. I have seen lives changed, felt unspeakable joy, seen miracles and amazing power, and while science may work to change details of my faith, the underlying faith itself is pure and unchanging. Just as bible study changes details of my faith as knowledge is revealed to me, scientific study has it's place as well.