Tridium Numeric Override

[simsd]

Okay Tridium experts. Since you confirmed my suspicions on the last question I had, you guys have become my de facto trainers.

I wish we had a Tridium forum.

I have an FX40 that is showing a supply air temp in override. I can't figure out where it's coming from (we use the standard AX programming in these and not the JCI stuff). Where would I look? It's overriding it to 0 degrees. I can't think of any Link but how would I determine if it is Linked?

[davem]

When you navigate to a particular object's property sheet, whether you do it with a right-click View->Property Sheet, or double-clicking on the object from the wiresheet, you may notice that another view that is available is the object's Link Sheet. If you're already on the object's property sheet, go to the top right corner of the property sheet, and where it says "Property Sheet", click on the little down arrow next to it, and the different views will appear in a little menu. Select the "Link Sheet", and you'll have your answer as to what's linked into the object and overriding it.

[codewriter]

You dont have access to the Tridium forum???

[simsd]

I meant in here.

I never bothered with the one on their web site because I figured I would just get the same gobbledy-gook answers as in the manual. Again, people assuming you're ten steps ahead of where you need to be. Am I right or wrong?

[codewriter]

Nah, they are very helpful, just come across honestly and they will post an answer at a level you can understand. None of us know every in and out of AX. I have seen guys that are so far ahead of me I feel like I should be flipping hamburgers, yet I have found that I may know something I think is easy and they have not figured it out yet. I don't think there is any one single person who knows every in and out, thats what makes the forum so great, so many things to learn and faster ways to accomplish them.
Granted, the Tridium forum is dead compared to this one, but I think that is because people are too timid to ask questions in fear of being looked down on. I say who cares, the only way to learn is to ask. Its a "new" product, for anyone to think they will not need help understanding some things will never be able to suceed very far.

[simsd]

You know what? You're right. I/We are the customer. If I start inundating them with questions, then maybe they'll start to see how inadequate the training and literature is.

Simple question system like architecture. How do you lay it out? How do you determine if there is enough resources in a 2, 4 or 5 for your application?
When you take it out of the box, now what?

My goal (and I don't know if I can do it) is to red line the manual with all of the stuff that's missing and then send it to them and say "Here, now start from here and you'll have something useful".

[codewriter]

No difference in horsepower between a 4 and 5, just the 5 gives you more ports.

In training, I was told "We give you the tool, its your job to learn how to apply it for what you need it to do". Its sad really, but true. I have spent countless hours training myself, thinking things out, doing things over and over different ways to see the affects, etc...
I would say I just scratched the surface of the full potential, after a year I would have thought I would know more, but the more I learn the more I realize I will always just be "scratching the surfice". AX either takes a seriously devoted user, or a pool of people of different strengths and weakness, luckily I have made a few friends along the way that help me understand things that I have trouble with, and I try to pass anything I can along as well. There seem to be a good grouping of AX users on this site, which is a blessing, and with the knowledge that I can simply pick up the phone and call tridium when I need to is priceless. They dont care who you work for, small or large, what "branded" system your doing, or what have you, all they know is you are representing their end product and they will do what it takes to ensure your needs are met.
Dont give up if you run into what seems to be a wall, there is usually a simple solution, you just need the right finger to point you in the direction.
I have seriously thought about providing "unofficial" training classes for the real world. Classes that discuss the basics in more detail, and things the average person will typically face. I by no means would even think about trying to teach anything advanced, as I am not advanced by my measurement, but I dont think that its the guys looking to be "advanced" that are in need of some real world help and guidance.

I bet, you could find a dozen people who work with AX, and there are probably a dozen on this forum, put all of us in a room with PC's and let us "hang out" for a week or two, and I bet every one of us would gain 2 years worth of "on our own" knowledge along with many things we would never know had we been all on our own.

[gnomethang]

I bet, you could find a dozen people who work with AX, and there are probably a dozen on this forum, put all of us in a room with PC's and let us "hang out" for a week or two, and I bet every one of us would gain 2 years worth of "on our own" knowledge along with many things we would never know had we been all on our own.

Hear Hear!
Just swapping ideas in r2 with one guy I found the same thing. I had quick stuff and so did he - we both thought our bit was trivial and the other guy's was incredible.

[simsd]

I agree with you about the training idea. I thought about it too. "Tridium for Dummies" is what I thought about.

codewriter - where abouts are you located? Northeast? Southwest? Southeast?

Just wondering if there's resources we could share. Engineering/CAD etc.

[codewriter]

Wash DC.

[leaflying]

Come on, show them.

...I have found that I may know something I think is easy and they have not figured it out yet...

[codewriter]

Show'em what? And you have not returned the last email I sent you. Are you ignoring my request??? ;)

BTW, to those who do not know, leaflying is a java expert... ;) He knows all the behind the scenes technical jargen... ;)

[leaflying]

I didn't check my email lately. It's sent to you.

[codewriter]

I figured, and I appreciate it greatly! Makes perfect sense.