JCI Rep. in Richmond, VA

[ctrussell]

Does anybody know of a independent JCI Rep in the Richmond, Virginia area?

[twisted pair]

Ask IndyBlue I am sure he knows some award winning industry recognized JCI reps that offer superior service on the number one control system in the universe.

Don’t believe me, just check there stocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(sorry ctrussell, I did not mean to interrupt your thread, I just could not resist the urge Good Luck)

[ctrussell]

No problem with you interrupting the post. I typically try to stay away from using JCI but if I am forced to work with it I try to find an independent rep.

[klrogers]

Does anybody know of a independent JCI Rep in the Richmond, Virginia area?

Try Mark Woodcock at Cii Service in Richmond, not an official JCI Rep but has done some JCI work. 1-800-320-1405

Kevin

[IndyBlue]

The cost may be very little more, but you will get the best service available by calling the local JCI branch

You get what you pay for after all. You might

end up with a third party butcher like FreddyB or halreyal dinking around with

your investment.

[Trublshter]

So Mark Woodcock is still with Cii service there huh? I'm curious if some of the other guys I used to know are there. I'd have to look at some papers to recall their names off the bat. LOL

[codewriter]

Dont bother with the local branch, most are on the kool-aid. Yes, I know most if not all of the techs at JCI that work in the VA area, I go behind them on lots of jobs and see just exactly how well their service is (not).

Indy, what branch do you work at? I may actually know you.

[simsd]

ctrussell,

When do you need to get done whatever you need?

[twisted pair]

I would also not bother with the local branch office as lwarren said previously they have their hands full running York into the ground.

Plus I hear they are pre-occupied checking their stocks!!!!

[freddy-b]

Thats funny. me the butcher? Get a clue! or better yet as someone else mentioned. Keep up the good work. That king cock blue attitude is making it all the much easier to steal account. its not even stealing really . its to easy!

Something else. I find it odd that noone on here from jci ever challenges indy idiots ramblings. The silence says wonders. at least to me.

[simsd]

You notice how the silence is deafening.

[freddy-b]

You notice how the silence is deafening.

Quite

[ctrussell]

Looking to put inplace a service contract at a site that JCI controls mid summer to early fall.

[x-wrenchturner]

With so much B.S. around here regarding JCI, I typically try to avoid this crap, but here goes anyway:


Facts:
I am a service tech for JCI in Richmond Va. and have been in the business for over 25 years.
Not counting our two new hires, our eight service techs have an AVERAGE of 19 years of experience in the field.
This isn’t a team of fresh college recruits, or young computer hacks, but experienced and well respected professionals.

I work for JCI at this branch by choice, as it is a true pleasure working with such a group of like minded professionals who all share the same work ethic, all share the same dedication to customer service, and all share the same ethical values in general.
I have no doubt that anyone here would be proud to be associated with such a group of individuals.
Talk can certainly be cheep, but these my friends are facts.

Actually if it wasn’t for the disparaging remarks aimed directly at my coworkers, I probably would have remained silent on this B.S. topic, but having somebody so ridiculously impugn the integrity of my friends pisses me off.

The question I can’t help but to ponder is whether Mr. Codewriter was simply mistaken in his assessment of our service branch, or whether he was intentionally misleading others with his comments.
For the fact is that he is wrong.
I was tempted to pursue further detailed discussions with him on this matter for my own personal entertainment, but fortunately I came to the realization that it just wasn’t worth my time.

As far as disgruntled Freddy goes, do you really think that anyone associated with JCI would actually find it necessary to challenge Indy in any way?
I am more inclined to believe that you are just going for theatrics here, rather then actually taking Indy seriously, but maybe I am mistaken.


Now back to the topic at hand:

ctrussle, I obviously believe that you would be more then satisfied if you were to call our branch for service.
If you would rather not, for whatever reason, then if you could be a little more specific about what your needs are then I may be able to point you elsewhere.

[codewriter]

x-wrenchturner

I wish you would have said something earlier, my deepest appologies. If I have made to bold of a generalized statement and you and your peer's do not fit into that catagory I sincerly appologize. I can assure you I meant no harm to those that do have a good work ethic and overall good values.
I do not keep up with everything down in that area and very well may have said things I should not have. I guess I associated NVA with down there a bit too much. As for the NVA area the statement still stands strong. Sure, there are a handful of guys who are actually good, but out of hundreds it does not matter in the grand scheme, once a client gets the taste of "we are not important enough to have the experianced guy come take care of our problem" or "we seem to be the test bench for their new guys", you can kiss that client away sooner than later. JCI is notorious for this, and I suspect you can not disagree, whether it holds true currently in your branch or not, it holds true on a national average and thats what counts.

Again, please accept my appologies if I have stepped on undeserving toes.

[twisted pair]

X,

I understand how you feel. Speaking for myself I have nothing against JCI, there products or employees. I have said that in my opinion they do not compensate alot of there employees as well as they should.

Is it fair that IndyBlue has negative comments against Tridium or any other control system.

Is it fair that IndyBlue insults people on this site calling them hackers and butchers, when he knows nothing about the products they represent or the quality of there workmanship.

I like to have fun (if you have not already noticed). If you read some of my other posts I have said JCI has good products and good people.

But the way some of you (BLUE GUYS) talk around here it is like any other competitors control system or independent controls contractors are inferior to Metasys and Johnson Controls..

[x-wrenchturner]

Code, apology accepted and appreciated.
I believe that I fully understand where you are coming from also.

I hold no illusions that my particular circumstances with JCI are the norm nation wide, I just concentrate on keeping my little part of the neighborhood clean.

Mr. Pair, if you think the arrogant attitudes so seemingly prevalent from some JCI techs gets to you, try to imagine the reaction I have to such nonsense from some so called “co-workers”.
When I am confronted with such attitudes face to face, my genetic make up typically forces me to verbalize my opinions on certain philosophies right away.
A side benefit to this genetic deficiency of mine however is that I can frequently use it at work as an example of why there is no way that JCI would ever want to even consider me for any management role!:D


x-wrench

[freddy-b]

"As far as disgruntled Freddy goes, do you really think that anyone associated with JCI would actually find it necessary to challenge Indy in any way? I am more inclined to believe that you are just going for theatrics here, rather then actually taking Indy seriously, but maybe I am mistaken."

X

Disgruntled? ......actually looking back.
Leaving that looney bin is the best thing I ever did. Anyway Indy is a fool, and I think everyone here knows that. But thats not the point. The almighty attitude he represents does really exist. Thats why it hits home for so many people here.

Theatrics, maybe a little, but your boy Indy is in the leading role and im just the guy that gets shot in the first 5 minutes.

Freddy

[x-wrenchturner]

Theatrics, maybe a little, but your boy Indy is in the leading role and im just the guy that gets shot in the first 5 minutes.

Freddy


ROFLMAO!
:p :p :p :p :p
That was some good stuff!
:p :p :p :p :p
Thanks!

[freddy-b]

"As far as disgruntled Freddy goes, do you really think that anyone associated with JCI would actually find it necessary to challenge Indy in any way? I am more inclined to believe that you are just going for theatrics here, rather then actually taking Indy seriously, but maybe I am mistaken."

X

Disgruntled? ......actually looking back.
Leaving that looney bin is the best thing I ever did. Anyway Indy is a fool, and I think everyone here knows that. But thats not the point. The almighty attitude he represents does really exist. Thats why it hits home for so many people here.

Theatrics, maybe a little, but your boy Indy is in the leading role and im just the guy that gets shot in the first 5 minutes.

Freddy

[twisted pair]

Understood X.

I also offer MY apologize if anything I have said upset you. Some of what I said was absolutely true (in my own opinion), the rest obviously was my sense of humor, to try and lighten things up a bit.

I did not mean to offend anyone that is employed by Johnson Controls.

I wish Mr. Blue would be as fair as I am in saying that not every competitor of JCI’s is bad.

You know I run a service division for a controls contractor. Our primary product line is TAC. I have about 7 people in my division and do close to 2 million in service. I do most of my own hardware engineering / estimating / sales. My largest customer base is negotiated work directly with building owners/managers. Granted most of my work is in buildings with existing systems, many times I sell to new buildings, bid work, or plan & spec. I NEVER beat up my competitors and attack there products or workmanship. I write proposals that make sense to an owner, are cost effective and fairly priced. In return the client has some sort of improvement to their real estate asset (enhanced temperature controls, automation, or energy savings usually). Or maybe we helped provide a solution to an IAQ problem.

What I am saying is Mr. Blue could disagree with any posters here, but he does not need to slam the systems or providers.

Last time I checked Johnson Controls was still # 1 in the US market followed by Honeywell and now our product TAC with there recent acquisitions of Andover Controls & Invensys Building Systems. So JCI clearly is doing something right and has a strong foot in the Building Automation & Building Controls marketplace.

TP