Impeach the two of them

[tinknocker44]

Here's a plan I like.

How long would it take to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney? A day?

It could be the day after impeachment hearings ended in the conviction of President George W. Bush for high crimes and misdemeanors. It would take only one courageous member of the House of Representatives to propose an article of impeachment against Cheney. Then it would take a majority of the House and two-thirds of the Senate to send Cheney packing -- almost as quickly as former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

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Cheney could go back to making millions of dollars off the America people while out of office. And Congress could begin the work of righting government, repairing our global reputation and bringing our soldiers home.

Concocted intelligence

What could Cheney possibly be convicted of? Here's a thing: He used intelligence created -- and I use the word created as it is defined -- by Rumsfeld's top policy aide to convince America and the Congress that there was a connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.

That aide, former Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith, produced "alternative" intelligence reports wrongly making such a connection. Those reports were among many false ones that the president used to convince Congress to endorse the invasion.

A new investigation instigated by our own U.S. Sen. Carl Levin shows that the Iraqi National Congress fed a Feith-led group fake claims that Iraq "was hiding illegal nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and was training terrorists," according to a report from the Washington bureau of McClatchy newspapers.

A right to be furious

Feith, who arguably can be blamed for starting the war in Iraq, now teaches at Georgetown University and has been absolved of any responsibility. When you work for the Bush administration, and you're not the guy who nearly let New Orleans drown, you're covered.

But Levin called the findings "devastating" and said "the American people will be absolutely furious."

The American people, most of us, are furious. We've lost 3,000 American men and women in a dishonest war. We've lost a global reputation because of the arrogance of our leaders. We can't wait until the next election to do something because there will only be more Americans dying in the meantime.

I've called for the impeachment of President George W. Bush twice before and had correspondents tell me that their greater fear was a President Cheney. Get rid of them both for "high crimes and misdemeanors" against the American people. The best definition of that came from our own President Gerald Ford in 1970: "An impeachable offense is whatever the majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at any given moment."

At this moment, nothing could be worse than sacrificing American lives to make money and prove a point to your daddy. No wonder former President George H.W. Bush has taken to crying in public


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[r22jjc]

so who takes over after impeachment? this hard core left &right stuff gains nothing.just keeps folks fighting.just what both sides want...........

[The Doctor]

if the Iraqi Nat'l Congress fed the fake claims and we believed them, how does that support your main point about Bush or Cheney?

Congress could right government? I hope you're not holding your breath...
See Pelosi and the exemption for Star-Kist tuna for a great example of the changing levels of corruption..???

?Let New Orleans drown? Let's put our homes in an area below sea level and just sit on our asses while a cat 3(at least) hurricane rolls in...it's the government's fault, yeah that's the ticket...
Please, how long are you going to make excuses for New Orleans?

[coordinatesales]

This is going to get real old if the American people can't wait for the next election and insist on trying to impeach whoever is in the white house. This case is particularly bad, most people feel the dems will take the white house next election but we can't wait, we have to impeach both the pres and vp so Nancy can run the country now. I wouldn't be surprised if the same impeachment talk continues for whoever next inhabits the white house.

[James 3528]

Impeach the two.......if there is anything that is going to destroy the democrat party 2 years from now more, it would be a botox faced President Pelosi. LOL

[tinknocker44]

Impeach the two.......if there is anything that is going to destroy the democrat party 2 years from now more, it would be a botox faced President Pelosi. LOL


The same way a "chimp with a razorblade" destroyed the neocons.LOL

[James 3528]

Bush isn't a conservative. You thinking he is shows how politically inept you are. Why don't you have another lollipop?

[ga-hvac-tech]

O K Tink, I will give you a chance here: PROVE to me (with links to verifiable articles) that the speaker of the house is more qualified, more responsible, and can run the country better than the current Prez and VP.

Until you do, I do not want to hear any more talk about impeachment.

Only a really immature fool would throw out someone w/out having a BETTER replacement. And IMO immature fools should not be voting. Just common sense for those that understand what common sense is... :D

Until you can prove beyond any doubt that the speaker of the house can run the country better than the current leaders, then just put a lid on it buddy.

Nuff said.

[chillbilly]

Bush isn't a conservative. You thinking he is shows how politically inept you are. Why don't you have another lollipop?

I think he prefers a juice box and a fig newton after the nurse swabs his drool away.

[tinknocker44]

O K Tink, I will give you a chance here: PROVE to me (with links to verifiable articles) that the speaker of the house is more qualified, more responsible, and can run the country better than the current Prez and VP.

The gas attendant at the mini mart could run the country as well. If 6 years of corruption and ineptness dont change your mind then it sucks to be you.

Until you do, I do not want to hear any more talk about impeachment.

Until you prove she cant then I will talk about impeachment all I want.

Only a really immature fool would throw out someone w/out having a BETTER replacement. And IMO immature fools should not be voting. Just common sense for those that understand what common sense is... :D

Only a immature fool would think dumbya is doing a good job. At your pace you may never get to vote.


Until you can prove beyond any doubt that the speaker of the house can run the country better than the current leaders, then just put a lid on it buddy.

Nuff said.

I dont have to prove shiite. If you guys are to naive to see the corruption then I'm here to show it to you.

Now its...Nuff said.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Hey Chill, Boot, and BillPro, and James:

Just a quick note to say that I am not going to answer any more of Tink's notes. He is not capable nor willing to carry on an intelligent conversation, so I am going to ignore him.

Catch up soon.

[chillbilly]

I dont have to prove shiite.
No sheyt dummy....and you never do.



If you guys are to naive to see the corruption then I'm here to show it to you.Now its...Nuff said.
Nah, not quite enuff said yet....the only thing you are showing is how acutely uninformed you are on issues and your 7th grade responses to them when challenged.
You've coughed up another furball, Curly.

[tinknocker44]

Hey Chill, Boot, and BillPro, and James:

Just a quick note to say that I am not going to answer any more of Tink's notes. He is not capable nor willing to carry on an intelligent conversation, so I am going to ignore him.

Catch up soon.


Your question was stupid and I've never even talked to you before. Cyaaaaaaaaaaa!

[James 3528]

Hey Chill, Boot, and BillPro, and James:

Just a quick note to say that I am not going to answer any more of Tink's notes. He is not capable nor willing to carry on an intelligent conversation, so I am going to ignore him.

Catch up soon.Oh, you noticed

[chillbilly]

Oh, you noticed


LOL
I'd block him if I wasn't addicted to a few belly laughs a day.
Almost as good as the time he posted his picture on the site.
A real prince.:D :D :D

[chillbilly]

Your question was stupid and I've never even talked to you before. Cyaaaaaaaaaaa!

He's not going anywhere dummy.
He's just not corresponding with PWT any longer.;)

[obxdist]

Knocker,are you from this country.I enjoy reading your dumbya bull.You seem to have never acomplished a goal.You are like the punk i mean goof ball i kind of feel sorry for.All of you quit picking on this idiot.He cant help it.

[chillbilly]

:D
Knocker,are you from this country.I enjoy reading your dumbya bull.You seem to have never acomplished a goal.You are like the punk i mean goof ball i kind of feel sorry for.All of you quit picking on this idiot.He cant help it.


Well, if he's inept, that's his problem.
Yes, he's an idiot. Yes, he tries really hard to fit in.
The problem is....he has no game.:D :D

[tinknocker44]

Dumbya must have big balls to have all you nuthuggers wrapped around them.

[obxdist]

Is he married to Rosie O......They would make a good couple.Poor Rosie I feel sorry for her now.Loser idiot no back bone traitor....

[coolwhip]

Tin, you worry too much about things you cannot control.

[chillbilly]

Dumbya must have big balls to have all you nuthuggers wrapped around them.

Why all the ball references? You queer?
He's got more intelligence in his balls than you can collectively muster in that barren scunion of yours.

[James 3528]

LOL
I'd block him if I wasn't addicted to a few belly laughs a day.
Almost as good as the time he posted his picture on the site.
A real prince.:D :D :D

No way...more like Hanoi Jane with a dick.

[chillbilly]

No way...more like Hanoi Jane with a dick.


LOL

I've seen better heads on an iodine bottle.

[tinknocker44]

No way...more like Hanoi Jane with a dick.

So you're finally admitting you have no dick Hanio jane? You walked right into that one.

[James 3528]

More reading comprehension problems.....we are seeing some of how liberals are created.

[ladyfire3374]

Ya know, this started off being an interesting thread. So I'll draaaaaag it back that way.

On impeachment: When Clinton was impeached, it changed NOTHING. He stayed in office, and remained the President.

So impeachment isn't necessarily a remedy for those "high crimes"..or the misdemeanors which Clinton was (quite obviously) guilty of.

And the notion of Nancy Pelosi running the country is ludicrous. Shrub & Cheney would just ignore impeachment and continue with business-as-usual.

I'll happily pull out the "everybody's doing it" excuse for Clinton. He lied about something (who he got a bj from) that was utterly peripheral to the job.

He didn't lie to the American people in order to commit the resources of the USA to a war in a foreign country. That isn't peripheral to the job...that IS the job, safeguarding the homeland. And that, in my humble opinion, is a far greater crime.

I'll admit I don't know a lot about the impeachment process. But I do know what happened in that particular instance.

[geerair]

Ya know, this started off being an interesting thread. So I'll draaaaaag it back that way.

On impeachment: When Clinton was impeached, it changed NOTHING. He stayed in office, and remained the President.

So impeachment isn't necessarily a remedy for those "high crimes"..or the misdemeanors which Clinton was (quite obviously) guilty of.

And the notion of Nancy Pelosi running the country is ludicrous. Shrub & Cheney would just ignore impeachment and continue with business-as-usual.

I'll happily pull out the "everybody's doing it" excuse for Clinton. He lied about something (who he got a bj from) that was utterly peripheral to the job.

He didn't lie to the American people in order to commit the resources of the USA to a war in a foreign country. That isn't peripheral to the job...that IS the job, safeguarding the homeland. And that, in my humble opinion, is a far greater crime.

I'll admit I don't know a lot about the impeachment process. But I do know what happened in that particular instance.Well said.

[James 3528]

Well said.

You have always denied that Clinton was "impeached"

You can't ignore the full impeachment process that Ms Fire stated. You pick the specs out of the grits on one issue and are a Idiot Savant on others.

[geerair]

You have always denied that Clinton was "impeached" Nope. Clinton was impeached but the articles of impeachment failed.

In other words he was indicted but found not guilty.

Not that hard to understand.

Do a little reading Einstein.






You can't ignore the full impeachment process that Ms Fire stated. You pick the specs out of the grits on one issue and are a Idiot Savant on others.Ignore? Bawhahahahahahah. You are the one who has little understanding of this process.

[James 3528]

Nope, you always denied he was impeached.

[geerair]

Nope, you always denied he was impeached.Should be easy then for you to find the post/s where I claimed this. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Check back later to see how much progress you have made on this project. ;) ;)

[ladyfire3374]

This discussion, along with several others, has made me wonder about the opposition FDR faced while conducting WWII.

I know it was a rather different time...the press were so deferential that they went along with never showing FDR in a wheelchair, but I wonder about the tenor of the opposition.

Comparisons to Vietnam don't seem quite right, perhaps because we weren't attacked. It was an asymmetric war (like Iraq) but lessons learned in VN weren't retained. and we are...Doomed to Repeat

[isitfixedyet]

BUSH AND CHENEY
are on their way out! and so is the economy and your consitiutional rights, lol
true story!
let these truths, be held self evident!

[James 3528]

Time to check some IP's

[geerair]

Still waiting for the james report. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: