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thebatman
01-25-2007, 09:02 AM
Hi, im new to this site. I just graduated with an electrical engineering degree and i started working for a big controls company that does BAS as a hardware design engineer. I been working here for 3 months and i am straight out of college.

My problem is that the guy who was training me got fired. Now im starting to feel really overwhelmed. The company has no training plan for me, and keep giving me more projects that i can't finish in time. The other engineers are usually too bz to help me. I feel so dumb sometimes becuase i havn't really leanred any of this HVAC stuff in school. Are there any books to help me understand this stuff better. I want to be able to look at a mechanical drawing and sequence and figure out what is needed. I also get lost in the terminologies some times. I been searching stuff on wikipedia and howstuffworks.com. but i can't seem to find what i need. I ran into this site and hope this helps. Thank You:confused:

joken
01-25-2007, 02:09 PM
I would suggest spending some time with some field service guys.

sysint
01-25-2007, 04:48 PM
Look up the link for the Honeywell Grey manual. Search for it here or maybe somebody provides it... I thought it was PDF 7700. You could also go to the Honeywell tech lit site and download it.

Read it. It will tell you alot quickly in a manner you can understand.

What control lines are you working with?

simsd
01-26-2007, 12:06 AM
This is a Human Resources issue. Make sure they and your manager know how you feel, but that you are also going to do do whatever you can to make it fly. If you are working for JCI, then they have great training program that they will put you through (at least they are supposed to). The same is/was true of Honeywell. I don't know about Siemens but I assume they are the same.

You should also check the local universities for HVAC design courses. In California they are offered through the UC System through their extension program. You might want to find out what AHSRAE has (but not likely) anything useful.

And yes the Honeywell greay book is the bible.

the_dude
01-26-2007, 12:22 AM
http://customer.honeywell.com/TechLit/pdf/77-0000s/77-E1100.pdf

theoldman
01-26-2007, 12:52 AM
What city are you working in?

thebatman
01-26-2007, 08:08 AM
What city are you working in?


i work in NYC..thanks alot for your help...i'll check the grays manual too..and i'll ask them to send me out with the field guys.

jciengineer
01-26-2007, 03:42 PM
what's your email, I would be glad to send you some literature, glad to help

thebatman
02-13-2007, 08:54 AM
what's your email, I would be glad to send you some literature, glad to help

y2khan4@yahoo.com

thank you

eltguy
02-16-2007, 12:20 AM
I'm going to go on a limb and say that you work at JCI. ;)


Best thing you can do for yourself is get out in the field with a Tech who has some experience. You've got a good background with your education.

Controls is like learning to drive. You can read an operators manual all day long and get the idea of how it works.... spend a few weeks behind the wheel and you're in-like-flynn.

wellhung
02-16-2007, 01:20 AM
the bat man, i have been where you are now. it sucks big balls. you must be in your early twenties. Am i right? big companies seem to **** with youngsters. they know older guys tend to see thru their bs and tell them where to go. anyway, try to stay and work it out where you are out. if you can not try to go with some other outfit that would actually help you. if you gain nothing else from this response, know this. if you stick it out in hvac you will not sorry. this is for sure.

shifferbrains
02-16-2007, 03:47 PM
If you scroll down through these threads (messages) you will find one called "Controls Tricks of The Trade" by Joey791. Open that thread then scroll down again to a message from "Sysint". He posted a link on his message named "Honeywell Engineering Manual of Automatic Control for Comercial Buildings". This is a link to a .pdf file. Click it and you can download the file to your computer.

thebatman
02-16-2007, 04:46 PM
the bat man, i have been where you are now. it sucks big balls. you must be in your early twenties. Am i right? big companies seem to **** with youngsters. they know older guys tend to see thru their bs and tell them where to go. anyway, try to stay and work it out where you are out. if you can not try to go with some other outfit that would actually help you. if you gain nothing else from this response, know this. if you stick it out in hvac you will not sorry. this is for sure.

thanks your right on the money..im 22..and things were ok until people started quiting...and leaving me on my own..but its good to know someones been where i am and made it..your comment helps